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WoW the Next "Golf"?
TheGrapeApe writes "1up has an article about the possibility of World of Warcraft becoming the next "Golf": A place where friends, acquaintances, and perhaps even business partners will meet up to "talk shop" and swap stories. Personally, I can't wait until I have my next job interview in the Deadmines. " I demand extra healing and mana pots from all my employees.
And the awful orcish garb! Just like golf!! Well...at least after a round of golf you can go get a beer at the clubhouse... I just don't think I could sell my boss..."meet me at (good WoW meeting place here), we'll discuss the latest figures"
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Sorry.
golf is good because it's long walk long walk. It's not like people can make business contacts when people are screaming "OMFG! HEALZ!"
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it would be the perfect way to determine if a prospective hire is a team player or a lone wolf
I can see this on conventional servers. Guessing on a RP server you Roleplay with said people. "Doth thou have a plot of land for mine hotel?"
Or perhaps on a PvP server you kill said people. "This is for taking the last cup of coffee punk!"
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...is glamorous.
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Gregarious people are surely going to trade face to face time for a game. "Hey, let's go get a beer after we play." "Ok, I'm headed up to my fridge, tell me when you got your beer and we'll have an online toast."
Bleh.
Somehow I can not picture 50 something WASPS sitting around in silly outfits discussing Business and the best Tactics for their next raid . .. I don't think it would work given Blizzards Rules.
"oh my old boy , who gave that Ork membership to our club , I will have to take this up at the Bi-anual meeting"
Considering Golf clubs for Business men often like to exclude people of Ethnicity's , non Protestants and homosexuals
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One guildie relates this story:
"My coworkers and I were in a particularly heated meeting recently. Our management team had thrown a ridiculous project our way, and later yelled at us for not completing it to their non-existant specifications. When we met to discuss possible ways to satisfy this lose-lose situation, no one had any plausible ideas. During a break in conversation, I said, 'What we need to do is five-man the Baron'.
At least four people present laughed, including my boss."
I know I saw the TeamSpeak icon on a coworker's laptop the other day, and came very close to asking him what game it was for. Boy, it would be disturbing finding out he was on the same server; especially if he were a member of the other faction...
Uh, I didn't know /. had an integrated "Joke" subsection filed under Games.
WoW is as much a substitute for a sport as it is for a social life.
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Very interesting. Signs indicate, then, that MMORPG's are becoming Role Playing Games for our REAL lives? People play MMORPG's and RPG's to escape, not to role play their own lives... Perhaps we will see two types of MMORPG's: one where you remain 'anonymous' (like the ones nowdays) and ones where its a virtual reprentation of the REAL YOU. In that sense, the latter is basically a VERY fancy virtual chatroom. No different from nowadays. Except maybe instead of *just* chatting you can chat over a friendly game of, virtual golf, virtual fishing, etc. The latter idea has already been explored, and I don't think it has caught on. I doubt it will until the graphics become SO good and there are so many "virtual" socializing activities that people cannot resist it. Also, chatting via typing SIMPLY will not do... how about integrated N-way Skype-type chat (like those headset thingies for Counterstrike).
I'd suggest sticking with golf if you plan to go into management.
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Investors, businessmen, people that own (real) jets and make shit happen - do NOT play WoW.
I hope this was in jest. Business happens on the golf course because you can meet people and see their personalities, and how they react. Business is about people. I wouldn't trust a person's demenanour in a video game any more than I'd trust it from an e-mail.
...this has to be one of the dumbest and most inane posts I've seen in a long, long time.
Yeah right a video game is gonna replace the real life experience of being on a course...not to mention the fact they are two different games. Jesus, who is freebasing in such large quantities to think of these idiotic rantings?
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via WoW. Until he met a girl and she kept him from hitting 60. What a loser.
It's going to be very annoying when I have to create a character on the boss's server and play it up to his level before we can talk.
- Choose Life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a fucking big television, choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players and electrical tin openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol, and dental insurance. Choose fixed interest mortage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends. Choose leisurewear and matching luggage. Choose a three-piece suite on hire purchase in a range of fucking fabrics. Choose DIY and wondering who the fuck you are on a Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing game shows, stuffing fucking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pishing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked up brats you spawned to replace yourself.
- Or play World of Warcraft.
Can you really have a proper job and play WOW?You're an immobile computer, remember?
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What I see more and more of, perhaps just because of the communities I'm involved with, is a lot more "crossover" from online communities to normal face-to-face communities.
I can't say that I will ever play WoW and I really don't believe that it will be the next "golf" but I can certainly see "Foo" (carried out online) crossover as an activity that any group might engage in while in person.
So, remove WoW from the equation and insert whatever online community you are involved with and carry on.
Well, perhaps WoW could replace video golf...
Let me start by saying "yeah right". The next golf? The reason businesspeople play golf is not for the game, but to chat and talk politics (office or government) while having some sort of distraction outdoors. WoW is hardly a decent place to have an office meeting. Face it, most people (will) grow out of video games.
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World of Warcraft is far too involved, compared to the game of golf. In golf, you can sit back, take the game at your pace, your parties pace. You all are doing roughly the same thing, and can find common ground. A warrior and a mage have no common ground, save for, well... literal space sharing. WoW is far too fast-paced in comparison.
It's also an effing cartoon, for those nubs who haven't yet realised.
So... No. Not happening.
*silence...*
Next question, please.
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Golf is standard issue for the managerial class: folks who being extroverts is a job requirement. For peons/techs/engineers there's still the time honored Afterwork Beer. Getting excited to run off into isolation and talk to people through magical cat-5 ain't the same. It implies a discomfort with being in the proximity of other meat popcicles and people notice that. Most people live out there in the Big Blue Box.
What is music when you despise all sound?
The movers and shakers in the real world with real money and power don't have hours of spare time to spend on MMORPG games. Maybe peon deals can be cut in such a format, but to compare this with the kind of money that revolves around golf is ridiculous.
"The world is like a circle with as many centers as there are men"
The thing with what you said is, that most of the time the "Foo", in this case WoW, is the lowest common denominator for the group. Which is great, people like meeting other people with possibly diverse interests.
But often times groups that meet face-to-face have a particular interest; if they "switch" and "stop" playing WoW, boom, there goes their common denominator. Unless they 'hit-it-off' in some other way, the group will most likely wither from lack of commonality..
More like "off broadway musicals". ;P
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The biggest difference is golf is actually a sport, and you communicate face to face. WoW is a niche so small it makes lawn bowling look like a national sport.
As to say its the next way people are going to get together and hang out and schmooze it up is ridiculous, because nobody that is a real businessman wants to be dealing with people in a virtual game. If you cant look someone in the eye, why would you discuss anything serious with them?
I doubt anyone over the age of 20 even thinks this is an intelligent assumption.
WoW is the next everquest, not the next golf.
I'm sure a Diablo MMORPG will drop in 07-08 and we will all be like "Diablo is the next Golf" lolzz
In golf, you can display your wealth and not be any good at golf, and thats fine. They can see your a man of power becasue of the car you arrived in, the dimond tiped golf shoes and the caddie with a mobile drinks bar.
But in WoW if your new to the sport, or suck at it, you'll probably find that others who have less wealth and power in the real world can and probably will, have more in the World of Warcraft... egos don't like that
I really dont understand how so many people can still play WoW.
IMHO, WoW is the McDonalds of MMO's. A lot of people like it at first, but play it enough and you get fed up.
I was sitting at the back of a funeral in a church a few months ago, and I heard three guys a few rows infront of me talking about how to kill magmadar in Molten Core.
I went home, cancelled my account, uninstalled the game and will never ever install it again.
I was getting tired of it even before that incident, that just pushed me to finally cancelling my account after playing the game for six months.
If you like WoW and its your first MMO, go try out some other ones, there are many that are much better than WoW!
From TFA:
"Warcraft is like a really, really well-designed UI for real-time, ad-hoc group collaboration and management of tons of people."
What exactly is he referring to, here? The guild/party window? Guild chat? Are those "really, really well designed"?
Am I missing something?
No self-respecting businessman is going to ask another businessman, lets chat on WoW and see if we can work out the contract. And then maybe hack some orcs.
This article is lame.
The one that always has a new set of clubs and loves to talk about how great they are.
The one that's late for tee time and spends half the day on the phone, while everyone waits.
The one who pretty much sucks, but tells everyone how they should play the ball.
Oh, wait...
Wait a second...
Small potatoes make the steak look bigger.
This is just retarded. I don't know any suits that have even heard of WoW.
However, I do believe virtual golf can be the next golf. Then perhaps after that virtual virtual golf, where you could almost swear you were playing real virtual golf.
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Golf is for the rich and powerful to meet and talk at length without dealing with the non-rich and non-powerful in anything other than servile roles. Golf is useful because it excludes the riffraff. No offense intended, but WoW is the riffraff. WoW might be the new bar, or the new mall, but it's definitely not golf.
A place where friends, acquaintances, and perhaps even business partners will meet up to "talk shop" and swap stories. Personally, I can't wait until I have my next job interview in the Deadmines.
Deadmines? Deadmines? Which entry level position are you trying to obtain?
Actually I think we could make it work with the inclusion of some ugly pants!
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I've never heard of any online game called "golf". Who the hell would want to play golf online?
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Joi Ito is a rare breed of Warcraft player. He's a very successful entrepreneur and it's doubtful he has many peers online. Just because he plays Warcraft, does that necessarily mean Warcraft is accepted as a good place to talk shop? I would like to be in the presence of this guy and would play the game (again) for a chance to shoot ideas off him, but more likely than not any chatter on Warcraft is going to be about someone's day doing tech support.
There's a mistake here. World of Warcraft is actually predicted to be the next GORF
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About 5million ppl worldwide play WoW. I'm sure many more people play golf. I suspect maybe MMORPG's can be used for team building, but not building new business contacts. How are you to know the guy on the other end isn't a 10 year old kid.
This posting did kinda make me laugh. I personally play WoW with a boss who is two levels above me, so it's definitley helped break the "oo your to high of a manager to talk to" gap. It also provides me with a way to discuss shop outside of the normal bounds, but that doesn't happen very often because we use WoW to escape the BS at work..
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Reasons why this isn't true:
1) Golf, unlike, WoW, is capable of increasing productivity and improving communication between co-workers and businesspeople while maintaining a recreational atmosphere.
2) Golf doesn't require complete 24/7 devotion to compete effectively.
3) Golf, unlike WoW, doesn't cause your muscles to atrophy after a week of playing it non-stop.
4) Golf (for most people) stops at night, whereas WoW goes on and on and on and on.
5) Golf, unlike, WoW, doesn't function like crack.
This is coming from someone whose brother is obsessed with WoW.
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Knock it for whatever reason you want, but I think having business meetings in WoW would be cool.
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Who gets to play what in the WOW version of it?
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There's no indication that this is true. A couple suspicious anecdotes, serving to hype the game, do not qualify.
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How about creating a WoW in-game Golf? Where Alliance and Horde can tee off and play a few rounds over the game land?
Dude, I don't care if it's WoW as long as *something* replaces that kind of thing as a business tool... I couldn't afford green fees as a kid, and I'm not about to learn to golf *now*.
This is easily the worst use of slashdot I have ever seen. Of all of the interesting articles and news out there today, we get this?
If I find an article stating that Counterstrike is the next Olympics will that be considered news worthy?
I feel that I would have been better off reading thesuperficial today. sigh.
This has to be one of the more ridiculous pieces of tripe I've read recently.
I find laziness to be an excellent motivator.
I think the contrary is true. I predict that within a year we'll be seeing Tiger Woods off-tank adds and Vijay Singh (sp?) dish out mad DPS with his 1337 epix. Now if that damn caddy would just throw a heal or two...
This story was on Fark yesterday. I mean, come on....
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/.'s editors' lives easier, why don't you just use a crawler and every hour, you copy one of the Fark/Joystiq/Kotaku/Gizmodo/Engadget links? That way, you still have some 'news', and they might actually be a little less behind.
Fark links the story on ExtremeTech by the same author:
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,192277
and TheGrapeApe is using the 1Up link:
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3147826
They're the same exact story.
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I bet more people worldwide play MMORPG than golf.
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And here I was thinking golf was the height of eliticism and snobbery.
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I'm sitting here with several of my coworkers in Tarren Mills tavern and we're having a dry raspy chuckle about your post.
Realistically, this article is entirely bunk, even on the elementary level the arguments presented that WoW could somehow present itself as a medium for business meetings or and meeting beyond that of a social gathering of people already established in game is ludicrus. WoW, at its most basic level, is a game. It would be equivilant to say that the game Monopoloy or Scrabble could have become a "medium" for communication. The only communication offered by WoW that exceeds chat, which, by the way, is achieveable through anything like MSN or IRC without the 4gb install process, is something like Teamspeak or Ventrino (sp?). *These* programs are actually forming the bed on which WoW "relies" to handle communication beyond chat and emotes.
What does WoW itself provide? A character? Items? Equipment? Quests? These things are all entirely irrelevant to communication. WoW does, on the other hand, provide a backdrop for meeting new people, but it certainly wouldn't be considered a means of communication - just as a bar is a place to meet people, or a movie theatre, or a park, parking lot, subway, fast food restaurant, but you don't consider those a "means of communication". There are other things to facilitate that.
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WoW has become so ubiquitous that most people where I work have at least played it, if they're not currently playing it. It makes transition to new groups/coworkers a little bit easier (some common ground outside work), and can act in place of the typical sports conversations that we used prior to MMORPGs.
I have friends that I've played MMORPGs with for years (and RPGs before we all got real jobs and ended up scattered to the winds), and we find MMORPGs are a fun way to keep in touch that allow us all to talk and burn off steam together. Takes the place of meeting up for a beer, although drinking tends to be involved.
I don't see it ever being a complete replacement. After all, everybody has their favorite passtimes. But in terms of providing some common ground to help people relate, there's no reason WoW can't take the place of any number of other discussion points.
"It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education." -Albert Einstein
I've found both WoW and Everquest a great way to expose a person's true character.
/rolling on the item. Occasionally you'll even see a person loot the item, essentally stealing it, and then logging of or going linkdead(alt f4 or shutting computer off).
If you bring a person along who you've never played with before, and an items they WANT drops and they don't get it.
You'll see some people - adults, mind you, have temper tantrums, scream and complain about how they NEED that item and they deserve it. I'm talking about a system where either the item dropped is awarded to someone else in the group, or they lost it if you're
In addition to that, Its an absolutely amazing to test a persons skills when you're functioning in with a large group of people and how well they can accept responsiblity. Do people preform well under pressure? or do they look out for themselves first. How well does an individual communicate, so many different things.
Honestly its one of the most intersting aspects of the game - Playing with a large group of talented people who know how to interact with the other classes and each can let their individual talents shine to make the whole group greater than the sum.
In addition to this, its also very rewarding to coodinate a group of 40 people. To lead an attack on a high end raid zone, learn then terrain, devise tactics, learn from your mistakes, and eventually overcome the obstacle. Its truly a rush.
I don't forsee this happening for a few reasons. First, think about your boss, or any normal boss for that matter, even if he DOES obsess over computers. Would this fine, upstanding man want to lower himself to play "golf" on the same "course" at the same time as other teen and even pre-teenagers? I don't forsee mine doing that. I do, however, know that plenty of workers play WoW alot during downtime, I've heard many a coworker talk about sitting down in the airport, checking mail, and logging onto WoW until they board the plane. Like many have said, plenty of people that would play golf do also play WoW, I just don't see this complicated and fast paced game (in relation to golf) catching on as a way to lay back and discuss work affairs.
would be this activity. Though, I will admit I have met many interesting people in online gaming, some of whom ironically turned out to be business worthy people, for the most part online role playing gaming is an activity where the future heart attack and type 2 diabetes club of the world hang out and get fat with each other. Golf used to be an activity where you got a decent workout because you actually had to walk all over the place to chase the ball you just hit, as well as carry your clubs, but now you have golf carts which basically have turned the sport into just another activity for rich out of shape fat people with no athletic talent to go pretend they are good at something other than foreclosing on the homes of middle-class and poor people so that they can build more golf courses. I suppose the fact that online gaming doesn't take up any real estate is a good thing, but then again any activity promoting collective vegetation of the mind among likeminded people is a bad thing as well.
Golf tends to be associated with the CIO and CEO types chatting it up over business deals. World of Warcraft would instead tend to be the common ground of the workplace person.
It certainly seems to be for me. A few of my co-workers and I sit down at lunch and talk about the weekend's instance runs, guild drama, etc. It beats being overheard while talking about how the management can't seem to tell a hard drive from a processor.
And yes, that's a generalization. I've yet to meet a boss that plays WoW in my extremely expansive sampling of just one company.
Yes! We can duel fellow employees to work our way up the corporate ladder!
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I envision:
The next corporate meeting: A raid group in Scholomance:
Raid: [llamalicious]: Dammit, those damned rogues and shadow priests are getting all the VP positions.
Raid: [llamalicious]: What char do I have to spec to get a decent promotion
Raid: [omgleetmgr]: stfu n00b or I'll kick you.
Raid: [omgleetmgr]: that means fired.
Raid: [llamalicious]:
Raid: llamalicious has left the raid party.
One the one hand I stopped playing WoW because it took up far too much time from family, mainly because there's not pause button and although it's a lot easier to get into and out of then EQ back in the day, when the munchkin wants some play time it's too hard to just stop... ...On the other hand there's CIV4...it's really paused ALL of the time, and for some reason it's equally hard to stop, if not harder.
What's the point of this story? I like stories.
I don't think this is very likely to happen... I have never played Wow, and don't know anyone who has even heard of it... I have only heard of it from slashdot! Why would chatrooms in general not create this? What is so unique about WoW?
I'm not an avid WoW gamer, but I suspect it lacks the perky, sinlge, flirty beer chick that drives by every 20 minutes. Somehow, yelling upstairs to ask Mom to "throw another Mountaind Dew down to the basement" doesn't have the same appeal.
This one gang kept wanting me to join cause I'm pretty good with a bo staff.
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I can identify everyone on my team who abuses "l337" speak and fire them. I honestly think my team would be better off without anyone who chooses to type in a juvenile manner just for a misguided perception of being cool.
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Alrighty, so Philbo hasn't been adding value to the guild recently, so I think we're gonna marginalize him. And as an action item for next week, we need people to start coming up with out of the box ways to proactively increase our headcount for Molten Core. See you next time!
Please, tell me 1up did this as a sick joke.
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Does this mean that Battlefield 2 is the next "banging your secretary"?
I hope to God I don't get stuck behind you on the course. You're not Tiger Woods - hit the ball, take your double, and move on to the next hole.
Thank you.
Anyone in a hiring position at the company should really have enough experience to be doing Molten Core instead.
My father's country club membership: $50,000 + a minimum of $500 a month on his food/drink tab. (Yes, they charge him this much even if he doesn't actually spend that much on food/drinks!)
Chasing some white ball around a neatly mowed lawn: Boring.
WoW subscrption: $50 Retail + $15/mo.
Ganking casual noobs in greens with my epic BWL drops in AV: Priceless.
After that, I'll write an article that asks if Apple's new strategy is similair to Abortion Rights. Of course, the answer is no.
The only part of the article that hints that golf may be good for tech discussions is in the first paragraph. He says there that many water-cooler discussions revolve around WoW. The rest of the article says that the opposite situation does not happen.
My guild is all friends from work. It spawned from water cooler conversations. But, we rarely discuss work during "the game". It just doesn't go well. Instead, our meetings at work (de-)generate into discussions about WoW. I'm not sure why it's different than golf, but it just is.
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You can pay people real money to farm stuff for you... even if they know you bought it, it's not different from showing up in a nice car and playing like a duffer.
Boss: "You aren't leaving till you are lvl 60 or you wont have a job to come back to tomorrow" Me: "but sir, I am only lvl 2 on this server, if you would let me use my server i'd be 60 by now" Boss: "Thats it you're fired, pack up all your mana potions and leather hides by 5PM, oh and leave your gold."
I kind of agree with you in that aspect, but what I think is mor important is that in business talks (and all other high-stakes talks) non-verbal forms of communication play a huge role.
Tone of voice, posture, the way the eyes move and all sort of tiny little details about the way a person talks, that you unconsciously recognize are missing in WoW (and in most types of electronic communication).
It's already difficult to assess the state of mind of other people in meat-space, in an on-line game where your 'perceptions' are diminished or can be fooled by other means, it might as well become impossible.
I've discovered that various people I run into during the course of my day play WoW, but it's impossible for me to "hang out" with them in a virtual way because they are on different servers. Even if I start a new character on my friend's server, I can't run with him, because I'll be a rank noob while he's got 3 epics already.
So the analogy isn't perfect, as many other replies have already said. BUT, I could easily see groups of people who work at the same company gaming together on a regular basis. And if one of those folks happened to be your boss, that would be a major advantage you would have over your non-gamer coworkers. So everyone who is spitting up on themselves about how imperfect this analogy is should probably chill out, and go find out what server their boss is on.
Dude, you need to get out more often. You know that big orange thing in the sky? Its called the Sun. Check it out sometime.
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I read the headline, but there is no way I will RTFA. This is just plain asinine. No person who is successful in the business world would have but ten seconds to devote to that vicarious game. Only people who are miserable failures in what is referred to as reality would spend any time creating a successful virtual life in the Warcraft World. I hate to burst your bubble, but sitting in front of a glowing screen in a poorly lit room is not at all as recreational as being outside on a sunny day and raising your heart rate to an aerobic level for four hours while walking the golf course. The golf course is also a status symbol. Most courses are private and memberships are expensive and exclusive. Any pimple faced retard with a fifteen dollar monthly allowance can create great virtual wealth in a fake universe, but only highly successful businessmen may be able to afford a membership at a country club. As someone who is not totally in control of new hires, but does have a voice in the decision, I would recommend hiring someone with a healthy lifestyle and disregard anyone who spends more than one to two hours a day playing video games.
We just got an inch of snow. The only golf happening around here right now is Golden Tee.
Seriously, who still uses golf as an opportunity to "network"?
If you want a very fancy 3D chat room check out Second Life. It is something like a very primitive version of the Metaverse. It's actually a pretty fun alternative to WoW when you get sick of chasing that epic armor set and just want to chat and build things.
Oh, yes. Because when I think about making business deals, I think to myself: how can I have this conversation over a third-party server, probably in plain-text?
Golf is the next WoW! Picture it, you get together with your boss and a few other underlings, and head out to the golf course dressed up as orcs, and go around kicking the shit out of groups from rival companies dressed as alliance folk. Plenty of good bonding opportunities here, and you might get to permanently reduce market competition as well.
Dear god, please, no.
World of Warcraft is utterly repulsive to me, even more than most other similar games.
I will lose all faith in humanity if World of Warcraft becomes even marginally accepted anywhere outside smelly, unwashed nerds basements, dorm rooms, and bachelor pads.
As a former MMORPG player, for many years, words cannot express my loathing for World of Warcraft.
This has already happened where I work. Everyone above me - my supervisor, my supervisor's manager, and the branch manager - all play WoW. I don't. I quit in the 50-60 grind. Good thing I don't want a promotion, I guess.
No: WoW (or any other MMOG) will not be replacing all other forms of socialization. I don't think anyone claimed that. And, realistically, it will not be "completely replacing" golf, which some 25 million people play in America alone (although, I wouldn't mind if it did; I hate golf with a burning passion). It does, however, offer an interesting place where people can have discussions and work together on solving what is, essentially, a dynamic "sliding-scale" puzzle. And look at the numbers: 5,000,000 people play WoW. Do you really think that the preconception of gamers as "social trolls" and "kiddi3s" really applies to _all_ 5 million of those people? ... Well after having the general chat channel turned on for five minutes, I can see how you might reasonably draw that conclusion... but still.
My reason for playing the game is not that I don't have anything else to do, or that I don't have any friends. In fact, my best friend _is_ the reason I play the game. He had to move overseas for a job. Neither of us are really "gamers" (or maybe we are now?...in any case, we won't be wearing "i roll 20s" tshirts any time soon) and we are contantly dismayed by the seemingly endless supply of douchebag "kidd13s" that seem to populate every guild we try to join, but it's been really cool to have this "puzzle" thing that we can do together, even though he's on another continent.
That's all I'm saying: I think MMOGs offer a unique new (at least new to me, anyway) forum for people- even if it's just to a subset of people that are predisposed to enjoying that sort of thing.
It's bad enough I'm going to need to master social drinking and perfect my golf game to have any luck with the corporate ladder. The last thing I need on that list is an online game that would probably take up every non-working waking hour for me to "look good" in front of the suits....
In undeveloped countries, the consumer controls the market. In capitalist America, the market controls you.
It's got to be a bad sign that I read the headline and first line of the summary, and found myself thinking, "what's this 'Golf' people are talking about?" I thought I was out of the loop and had missed some age-old online conferencing system popular with corporate types.
I've got to spend more time with my toes in the grass.
I'm sorry, but virtual beer just doesn't take the place of a few cold ones on the golf course. I believe this to be the biggest hurdle for this concept (-:
I recently had a job interview where we got on the subject of WoW for like 5 minutes =p
was pretty weird
Both are best enjoyed when drinking heavily.
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I work for a highly regarded web development firm as a programmer, and when I was interviewed I was asked about video games. You see, video games offer a lot of insight into good UI design and other interaction-design issues. So...there are a lot of gamers in the tech field and I think there's also a big crossover between hackers and WoW. So it's quite possible if not likely.
Both games are for the idiot masses who think they need the newest and shiniest piece of equipment to measure their penis or epenis by on a daily basis.
I could see something like this happening in SL since you can just provide everyone with a free client. The same can't be said for retail MMO games. Linden Labs doesn't have many pure Vendor meeting areas that I've seen. The shared world of SL is far too large and complex to know all at once so who knows if they exist now. WoW like MMO's split the world into shards which makes meeting pretty inconvienent. The only two tiers of SL are the teen and adult shards. This is strictly for legal purposes and makes sense.
i don't really understand why ppl are so crazy about wow. it's just another mmorpg, introducing nothing spectacularly new, doing nothing really better than any other average mmo ... it just had really good marketing and a good brand.
... that's nothing for me.
i played it for ~5 or 6 months, had alot of fun 4 months, got bored after this and finally sold my account on ebay - something i wouldn't do with any of my other game-accounts.
it's bugged (one bug that i reported in the open beta is still not fixed), the german "localization" is a joke (it's rather a literal translation instead of a localozation). sozialising is pretty much non-existant, everyone is running up to level 60 as fast as possible and then camps the instances or the battlegrounds, the story is inconsistent, the service is aweful compared to the price that you pay, death losses are not worth to get mentioned (so pvp is pointless)
seriously, the idea is fine, but the implementation is just average.
But Poker might be the next golf. It's currently enjoying a huge surge in popularity due to the televised tournaments and it seems like everyone wants in on the action now. Like golf, it's a sport that would appeal to rich white men with more money than sense. In other words, pretty much every boss I've ever had. It's also somewhat less of a sausage farm than the rest of the IT industry -- there are some damn fine ladies who regularly play the tournaments at the local casino. So the ladies looking to pick up a rich white man with more money than sense many of whom work in an industry that has more dongs than a chinese telephone directory could find worse fishing spots. Or you could just take away some of their money. That works too.
I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?
im not kidding abought that. eve is more a adult targeted game where everything is based on time. not killing 10,000 npcs to level up your level and exp in eve are all done in the amount of time you put in the game. in fact there so no levels in eve just skills you invest time in to lern. eve is the only mmo where your reworded for the time you put in the game rather then the progress. in fact alot of wow players have moved to eve latly with a triel account and been relly happy with eve alot say there gonna dump wow and pay for eve. in fact today one did. not to say eve has no action you can still kill npcs or other players for loot and cash. or be non voilent and mine or do jobs to make money. in fact most of eves players are adults and hate the fact wow is full of 15 year old kids screaming useless stuff in the chat channels in fact thats why some moved to eve its a more calm helpfull communty. in eve you have so many options on what you can do in that game i cant list them all. if you havent herd of it i suggest you check it out. and for all you linux user its supported and runs in cedega.
... but I was playing SWG back in the "good old days." I'd gotten laid off on January 6 (right after Christmas, very nice -- fortunately, I'd done a pay-cash-Christmas that year). I started complaining about the boredom in being unemployed, and living in an area with a weak job market. How was I supposed to know my guildmate was an IT manager?
(Believe it or not, it's a true story -- videogaming got me a job!)
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My kids are getting older and Disney Golf just isn't cutting it anymore. ;-)
The worst thing ever. Christ I have more fun looking at gay porno and GNAA than read this fucking WoW cock sucking trash!
PS: to the submitter, go fuck yourself with a +10 str sword.
Dude you are right on the ball. The game is so easily grasped and become level 60 in less than 2 weeks with not playing all that long. There are no challenges, it's just eye candy for the n00bs. Give me DAoC anyday over this bullshit game.
Fuck WoW!
And if you can do without pretty graphics, pass on Second Life and just find a MUSH/MUX at Mudmagic or similar site.
Building, scripting, and chat. Playable over SSH and the vast majority don't cost a dime.
learn2preview you cocksmoking teabagger.