They're still calling it Firebird? What happened to the whole Firebird RDBMS issue? The database still exists and its still called firebird! They did change it. It used to be called Phoenix, now it's called Firebird
FP
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Another step might be to change the default theme to "Modern" instead of that f'n ugly standard theme. Actually, I love the default theme. It's simple, but not dull. Do you view it with the Luna theme for Windows XP? If so try looking at it with the Windows Classic theme, in fact, if you're using Luna, don't, it's horrible. Maybe it's just that I'm used to the default theme, but I'm sure if you used it for a bit you'd like it aswell.
Recommendations for the branding and visual identity of the Mozilla Foundation's product and project line - by Steven Garrity Summary
This document is intended to offer suggestions to the Mozilla Foundation for the future of the Mozilla brand and visual identity. It is not intended to replace or redo the good work that has already been done in this area. Any suggestions made here that contradict, conflict, or replace guidelines, recommendation, or other work that has already been done reflects more my ignorance as the author than my opinion of what has been done.
As the Mozilla project moves towards an end-user focus from a developer and platform focus, the branding and visual identity of the organization and its software will need to be revisited. With the recent separation from Netscape and AOL, the need for the Mozilla project to have a brand of its own is all the more necessary. Keep What Works
First, the Mozilla project has a lot going for it. It has a long heritage, reaching back to the early Netscape web browsers. The Mozilla name was an apt choice as a nod to the roots of the project. It is also unique (free of trademark issues), memorable, and relatively easy to spell and pronounce. Mozilla is a good name. Lose What Doesn't Work
The Mozilla project is lacking a strong visual identity. The Mozilla lizard is widely recognized by developers and early-adopters on the web, but does not reach far beyond these groups. It is also used inconsistently across projects and products.
Any good visual identity builds on what is already established, while improving on the weaknesses of past. So too should the visual identity of the Mozilla project and products. A unified, consistent, but flexible brand and visual identity would be a great compliment to the technology developed under the Mozilla project. Products, Projects, and the Foundation
The broad scope of the Mozilla project has lead to confusion among end users. The term "Mozilla" is used to describe a web browser, a suite of applications, a platform, and an entire collection of software projects.
The recently formed Mozilla Foundation has already started the work of clarifying the terminology. The name of the Mozilla Foundation itself is a good and clear name that obviously defines the official organization that manages the Mozilla project.
They have also clarified the eventual naming of key Mozilla products; the current Mozilla Firebird project is the temporary development name for what will eventually be called Mozilla Browser; the current Mozilla Thunderbird project is the temporary development name for what will eventually be called Mozilla Mail. This is clear, simple, and smart.
Seemingly simple and obvious declarations like this are important for the success of the Mozilla project. People can't use software that they don't know how to ask for. People can't tell others about software that they don't know what to call.
The Mozilla Browser and Mozilla Mail names are clear, simple, and strong names for what will become the flagship products of the Mozilla project. Version Numbers
The Mozilla application suite is approaching version 2.0 (version 1.5 at the time of this writing) and the independent applications are approaching 1.0 (Mozilla Firebird is at 0.71 and Mozilla Thunderbird is at a humble 0.3 at the time of this writing). Many have speculated that the official replacement of the application suite with the independent applications would be appropriate time to declare them version 2.0.
The change in focus and new independent applications certain does warrant a new version number.
The Mozilla Suite ver. 2.0:
* Mozilla Browser
* Mozilla Mail
* Mozilla Calendar
* Mozilla Composer
The Visual Identity So Far
As the software produced by the Mozilla project stabilizes and matures, so too should its visual identity. The Mozilla 1.0 suite was generally intern
The title is Towards Mozilla 2.0, I was merely saying that while Mozilla can continue to evolve, I hope Firebird will also progress for many years to come (ie, build 2.0).
We're still to see 1.0 Yeah I know, I've been using it since the first release of Pheonix (I think). What do you think about 0.7? In my opinion it didn't change much, but I know some bugs have been fixed, and it's certainly stable, although as I never had any problems with the previous version... oh well, it's a step (if small) in the right direction.
err... you can have all the silk you want, but theres no denying that office 2003 is leaps and bounds ahead of open office. Have you ever even used it? I've used both, and can tell you the two don't even compare. Yeah I've used it, it's buggy. I'm not saying OpenOffice isn't, but OpenOffice loads much faster, runs much faster when loaded, and doesn't cost $199. It's great.
I've had to download 5 updates in the last 3 days, so it must be getting safer, but one assumes if you're constantly downloading security patches there's got to be something insecure about it...
I would guess their long term strategy plan is to trick investors into building up the stock If I HAD invested in SCO I would have dumped the shares LONG ago. If the execs really think this irrational behaviour will make people actually want to buy their shares... well, they must have something wrong with them.
In return for your $699 payment, they don't have to send you anything more than a piece of paper Do SCO really think people will pay this? Or do they have a 'long term strategy plan'?
I know you're out there. I can feel you now. I know that
you're afraid. You're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I
don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is
going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
I'm going to hang up this phone, and then I'm going to show these
people what you don't want them to see. I'm going to show them a
world....without you. A world without rules and controls. Without
borders or boundaries. A world where anything is possible. Where
we go from there, is a choice I leave to you.
I believe it is our fate to be here. It is our destiny. I believe this night holds for each and every one of use, the very meaning of our lives. This is a war and we are soldiers. What if the Prophecy is true? What if tomorrow the war could be over, isn't that worth fighting for? Isn't that worth dying for?
The people they're sueing all have literally billions of dollars to spare, the Sci-fi channel has maybe a few million. This might be combarable to SCO if they go through with it.
Your laptop had a meltdown? Are you the kind of person that says, when someone tells you a joke about a snowman. OMG IT'S FUNNIES BECAUSE HE WAS A SNOWMAN LOLZ%&%(* ?
is also a useful book on the subject, covering 'a few scenarios involving wireless access that each manage to point out a different facet of wireless security.'
They're still calling it Firebird? What happened to the whole Firebird RDBMS issue? The database still exists and its still called firebird!
They did change it. It used to be called Phoenix, now it's called Firebird
FP
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Another step might be to change the default theme to "Modern" instead of that f'n ugly standard theme.
Actually, I love the default theme. It's simple, but not dull. Do you view it with the Luna theme for Windows XP? If so try looking at it with the Windows Classic theme, in fact, if you're using Luna, don't, it's horrible. Maybe it's just that I'm used to the default theme, but I'm sure if you used it for a bit you'd like it aswell.
Branding Mozilla: Towards Mozilla 2.0
Recommendations for the branding and visual identity of the Mozilla Foundation's product and project line - by Steven Garrity
Summary
This document is intended to offer suggestions to the Mozilla Foundation for the future of the Mozilla brand and visual identity. It is not intended to replace or redo the good work that has already been done in this area. Any suggestions made here that contradict, conflict, or replace guidelines, recommendation, or other work that has already been done reflects more my ignorance as the author than my opinion of what has been done.
As the Mozilla project moves towards an end-user focus from a developer and platform focus, the branding and visual identity of the organization and its software will need to be revisited. With the recent separation from Netscape and AOL, the need for the Mozilla project to have a brand of its own is all the more necessary.
Keep What Works
First, the Mozilla project has a lot going for it. It has a long heritage, reaching back to the early Netscape web browsers. The Mozilla name was an apt choice as a nod to the roots of the project. It is also unique (free of trademark issues), memorable, and relatively easy to spell and pronounce. Mozilla is a good name.
Lose What Doesn't Work
The Mozilla project is lacking a strong visual identity. The Mozilla lizard is widely recognized by developers and early-adopters on the web, but does not reach far beyond these groups. It is also used inconsistently across projects and products.
Any good visual identity builds on what is already established, while improving on the weaknesses of past. So too should the visual identity of the Mozilla project and products. A unified, consistent, but flexible brand and visual identity would be a great compliment to the technology developed under the Mozilla project.
Products, Projects, and the Foundation
The broad scope of the Mozilla project has lead to confusion among end users. The term "Mozilla" is used to describe a web browser, a suite of applications, a platform, and an entire collection of software projects.
The recently formed Mozilla Foundation has already started the work of clarifying the terminology. The name of the Mozilla Foundation itself is a good and clear name that obviously defines the official organization that manages the Mozilla project.
They have also clarified the eventual naming of key Mozilla products; the current Mozilla Firebird project is the temporary development name for what will eventually be called Mozilla Browser; the current Mozilla Thunderbird project is the temporary development name for what will eventually be called Mozilla Mail. This is clear, simple, and smart.
Seemingly simple and obvious declarations like this are important for the success of the Mozilla project. People can't use software that they don't know how to ask for. People can't tell others about software that they don't know what to call.
The Mozilla Browser and Mozilla Mail names are clear, simple, and strong names for what will become the flagship products of the Mozilla project.
Version Numbers
The Mozilla application suite is approaching version 2.0 (version 1.5 at the time of this writing) and the independent applications are approaching 1.0 (Mozilla Firebird is at 0.71 and Mozilla Thunderbird is at a humble 0.3 at the time of this writing). Many have speculated that the official replacement of the application suite with the independent applications would be appropriate time to declare them version 2.0.
The change in focus and new independent applications certain does warrant a new version number.
The Mozilla Suite ver. 2.0:
* Mozilla Browser
* Mozilla Mail
* Mozilla Calendar
* Mozilla Composer
The Visual Identity So Far
As the software produced by the Mozilla project stabilizes and matures, so too should its visual identity. The Mozilla 1.0 suite was generally intern
The title is Towards Mozilla 2.0, I was merely saying that while Mozilla can continue to evolve, I hope Firebird will also progress for many years to come (ie, build 2.0).
We're still to see 1.0
Yeah I know, I've been using it since the first release of Pheonix (I think). What do you think about 0.7? In my opinion it didn't change much, but I know some bugs have been fixed, and it's certainly stable, although as I never had any problems with the previous version... oh well, it's a step (if small) in the right direction.
Mozilla org. work towards Firebird 2.0, although any development for Mozilla in general is great!
WOW! That's faster than my first 486 computer, impressive!
err... you can have all the silk you want, but theres no denying that office 2003 is leaps and bounds ahead of open office. Have you ever even used it? I've used both, and can tell you the two don't even compare.
Yeah I've used it, it's buggy. I'm not saying OpenOffice isn't, but OpenOffice loads much faster, runs much faster when loaded, and doesn't cost $199. It's great.
Why have cotton when you can have silk?
tbh.
I've had to download 5 updates in the last 3 days, so it must be getting safer, but one assumes if you're constantly downloading security patches there's got to be something insecure about it...
build a 7.4 TFlops computer for 500 pounds? Please?
I would guess their long term strategy plan is to trick investors into building up the stock
If I HAD invested in SCO I would have dumped the shares LONG ago. If the execs really think this irrational behaviour will make people actually want to buy their shares... well, they must have something wrong with them.
In return for your $699 payment, they don't have to send you anything more than a piece of paper
Do SCO really think people will pay this? Or do they have a 'long term strategy plan'?
I know you're out there. I can feel you now. I know that you're afraid. You're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin. I'm going to hang up this phone, and then I'm going to show these people what you don't want them to see. I'm going to show them a world....without you. A world without rules and controls. Without borders or boundaries. A world where anything is possible. Where we go from there, is a choice I leave to you.
I believe it is our fate to be here. It is our destiny. I believe this night holds for each and every one of use, the very meaning of our lives. This is a war and we are soldiers. What if the Prophecy is true? What if tomorrow the war could be over, isn't that worth fighting for? Isn't that worth dying for?
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The people they're sueing all have literally billions of dollars to spare, the Sci-fi channel has maybe a few million. This might be combarable to SCO if they go through with it.
to sell it yet outside of the land of the rising sun
Is it me, or does this seem quite racist? I kind of sarcastic jab at another culture?
Oh, and perhaps you should have a look at this
Your laptop had a meltdown?
Are you the kind of person that says, when someone tells you a joke about a snowman. OMG IT'S FUNNIES BECAUSE HE WAS A SNOWMAN LOLZ%&%(* ?
I don't have much faith in them. I had a toshiba laptop once, I kept it on for a week and it melted. :(
is also a useful book on the subject, covering 'a few scenarios involving wireless access that each manage to point out a different facet of wireless security.'