While typing up my response, I was CVSup'ing my FreeBSD ports on this machine, and doing an apt-get dist upgrade on the k6-II next to me. Not to mention pulling down the latest headers in alt.binaries.multimedia.ero... oh..wait.. nm that...
As someone who works for an ISP that offers both dialup and broadband services---
98% of people who want or have broadband don't need it. They check their email twice a week and/or look at weather or news sites once in awhile.
75% of people who *have* broadband assume everyone else does and sends email with attached 150mb video files of their kids' snowball fight, with 200 accumulated addresses in the CC field. They also average to circulate about 130 "FW:FW:FW:RE:FW:FW:FUNNY!:FW:FW:FW:RE:FW:FW:RE:HAH A!:FW:RE:FW:" emails during their time at the computer.
100% of people who demand broadband don't want to pay for it. Either they forget or they never knew the days of $50/month or pay-per-minute dialup (at 14.4Kbps or less!). $40/month is the best we can offer. If we could offer it for less, we would, but all too often our customers get wined and dined by some $29/month special by the local cablemodem provider and jump ship. I point out in their offer that this rate is only going to last for 6 months, but they usually respond with "If they raise the rates, I'll just cancel and go somewhere else."
Fuckwits. I give up. I'm going to quit IT and open a restaurant.
I'm going to have to state the obvious, and that in Wisconsin, people eat lots of bratwurst, cheese, german-influenced 'comfort foods', fast food, and drink lots of beer. Further more it's f*cking 25F out and snowing right now. Not exactly bicycle/swim/rollerblading/physical activity weather.
I've been around most of the U.S., and I see more obese people here in WI (where I live now) than anywhere else. Try as I might to escape all the temptations about me, I've gained about 50 extra pounds myself. Everywhere you turn there's stuff to eat that you really shouldn't but oh damn does it taste so gooood.
I can go to to just about anywhere- stores, malls, movie theatres, exercise gyms, look around, and I'm *still* the 'thinnest' person around.
So yeah, I'd like to blame it on a virus or something too;)
I'm just now giving NetBSD a serious try. I half-heartedly installed it on one of my little-used machines some time ago (1.6.1 iirc), but didn't really spend a lot of time with it. My main workstation is Fbsd 6.0, but i'm having an issue with a series of bugs or quirks in sysinstall and glibs in the ports collection. Maybe I'm just thick or something, but after a couple of months of googling, mopish hacks and/or otherwise trying to resolve these I'm running out of motivation. (There are open bug reports on most of these issues but they don't affect everyone so they're not being followed up on. Fbsd devels are busy with more important things, and I appreciate that).
So for now I've decided to upgrade that little 1.6.1 machine to 3.0 and try that out for awhile. Take a break from my issues above. So far I like it. I had the assumption that nbsd would be "all business no fun" (like obsd) but I'm pleasantly surprised. pkgsrc seems no less comprehensive than FreeBSD's ports selection (well duh), or at least I'm finding all the stuff that -I- use in there.
I still feel like I'm running away from my problems but at the moment nbsd seems like a nice umbrella to stand under for the time being.
It's sad to see that BBC is now following suit of PMSNBC and CNN in creating fluffy, repetetetive, 'sound-byte' laden articles like this one. You could probably sum this all up in one paragraph, about like the blurb on the top of the page here is.
...shouldn't the NetBSD folks be piping up right now and saying "we've had nbsd on the MacTel for 28 years now!!!"
(it's sarcasm)
Seriously tho... I don't see any point in dual-booting a Mac with Linux. You do that sort of thing with an oldschool x86 Windows machine, because Linux will give you stuff that Windows won't. In theory, there's not a whole lot that Linux can do that you can't do with OSX.
Most of the ppl that got into Linux so they'd look l337 have already jumped onto the OSX bandwagon anyways. Nothing to report here...
....slackware does matter. I am seeing a trend of ppl who try out linux first with either Mandrake or Fedora core. Nothing wrong with that, but as n00bs the do the usual thing such as install everything and turn everything on. Nothing wrong with that either-
-however-
Instead of going the classic route of tuning a 'big' or 'bloated' installation to fit their needs, they seem to be tossing it all aside and jumping on the Gentoo bandwagon. Not a bad thing in itself, but by comparison Gentoo will *seem* faster to them because the only experience they had was their Mandrake box running KDE, Apache, Samba, et all and having all these background services running. It perpetuates the Gentoo Myth and creates some zealotry. (or maybe the zealotry is unavoidable regardless, i dunno).
Very "straight forward" distros like slackware and debian will always have a place for advanced users to build the linux they need. It also serves as a good demonstration that the benefits of linux aren't unique to Gentoo. Whether Gentoo's model is good or bad is up for debate, but it is good to have different philosophies and different development strategies.
The whole "Dis-separation of church and state" that our current administration has done absolutely freaks me out more than any of the other 'popular ridicule points'. Obviously there are plenty of other kooks out there that are disturbing as hell but never before (at least in my lifetime) have I seen such a thing be viewed as "OK".
Wolf also said a larger than expected percentage of Windows to Mac converts appear to be purchasing Apple's higher-end systems
Is he suggesting that they are purchasing the higher-end of the Apple spectrum, or is it the usual drivel about all Apple hardware (generally) being "high end"?
I've heard many many many Mac users call their iMacs and iBooks "High-End UNIX Workstations" or "High-End UNIX X-Servers".
Fuck them. If someone wants to follow the ways of some kooky Christian mythology or other religion, then more power to them. However, the fundamentalists that are trying to eradicate science, education, graven images, homosexuality or whatever it is that they percieve as some threat while trying to shove their bullshit down other people's throats need to STFU. It's one thing to live your life the way you want, but don't try to dictate how others should live theirs, or what they believe. If they're offended by some cartoon daemon as a mascot for an OS then they can happily stay away. I'd prefer they not meddle with anything else.
I am sickened by the amount of foothold this has gotten in the U.S. since oh, 2000 or so.
Many countries, particularly developing ones, have become increasingly concerned about the U.S. control,
And here I thought all the toplevel root DNS servers and domain registration was done in Canada.
Shows what I know.
I must agree though, that most of "The Internet" (in the form of infrastructure) is in North America. For the most part, it works. Why invite an opportunity to screw it up?
Canada is a capitalist nation, just like most modern nations. Just because you live in Canada doesn't exempt you from having your "rights" and concerns over-ridden with the more important rights and concerns of revenue making, tax-paying, politician lobbying private industries.
Shhhhh.... you'll wake up all the Canadian neoCons that they're trying to hide from public view. Once their neoCons start spouting the Canadians won't be able to make fun of the U.S. in a global arena to differentiate themselves from the white trash to the south anymore.
In the U.S., the Do Not Call Registry was about as effective as well. The bosses signed up our business phone lines and nothing has really changed. We still get on average of 20-50 solicitation calls a day.
That doesn't sound like much, but for a small mom-n-pop ISP run by 4 guys and a dog with 2 phone lines, it's awful. Fwiw, we're all pretty good at screening calls via Caller ID.
Good luck to our fellow Canadian brethren, whether they've disowned us or not.
By default, a game based on a movie has to suck. It's one of the unwritten rules of the industry that movie games are pure profit: Stamp it out quick, screw the gameplay, and we'll make it up to the players with our next genre-buster
True in almost every case! However, I would almost expect the Fantastic 4 game to have much more potential for entertainment than the movie did.
"Anadtech has an article up comparing the IBM G5 with Intel's CPU. This gives us insight on the strength and weakness of Mac OS X.
Weakness?!?! This is Slashdot! We're talking about Apple! Apple is perfect in every way! They've been weakness-free since 1954!! They never make mistakes, poor marketing decisions or EVER do anything that can be construed as EVIL because they're Apple!
*clonk*
I wish i had a cord to cut....
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...that wasn't a dialup phone line.
Price to pay for living in a rural area. I'm surrounded by Amish so i doubt there is much of a CableTV/DSL demand out here.
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Oh, and fwiw...
;-)
While typing up my response, I was CVSup'ing my FreeBSD ports on this machine, and doing an apt-get dist upgrade on the k6-II next to me. Not to mention pulling down the latest headers in alt.binaries.multimedia.ero... oh..wait.. nm that...
Gotta love it.
As someone who works for an ISP that offers both dialup and broadband services---
H A!:FW:RE:FW:" emails during their time at the computer.
98% of people who want or have broadband don't need it. They check their email twice a week and/or look at weather or news sites once in awhile.
75% of people who *have* broadband assume everyone else does and sends email with attached 150mb video files of their kids' snowball fight, with 200 accumulated addresses in the CC field. They also average to circulate about 130 "FW:FW:FW:RE:FW:FW:FUNNY!:FW:FW:FW:RE:FW:FW:RE:HA
100% of people who demand broadband don't want to pay for it. Either they forget or they never knew the days of $50/month or pay-per-minute dialup (at 14.4Kbps or less!). $40/month is the best we can offer. If we could offer it for less, we would, but all too often our customers get wined and dined by some $29/month special by the local cablemodem provider and jump ship. I point out in their offer that this rate is only going to last for 6 months, but they usually respond with "If they raise the rates, I'll just cancel and go somewhere else."
Fuckwits. I give up. I'm going to quit IT and open a restaurant.
Interesting article and subject... -HOWEVER-
;)
I'm going to have to state the obvious, and that in Wisconsin, people eat lots of bratwurst, cheese, german-influenced 'comfort foods', fast food, and drink lots of beer. Further more it's f*cking 25F out and snowing right now. Not exactly bicycle/swim/rollerblading/physical activity weather.
I've been around most of the U.S., and I see more obese people here in WI (where I live now) than anywhere else. Try as I might to escape all the temptations about me, I've gained about 50 extra pounds myself. Everywhere you turn there's stuff to eat that you really shouldn't but oh damn does it taste so gooood.
I can go to to just about anywhere- stores, malls, movie theatres, exercise gyms, look around, and I'm *still* the 'thinnest' person around.
So yeah, I'd like to blame it on a virus or something too
I like my post too, but how did it get modded +1 Insightful? :oP
I'm just now giving NetBSD a serious try. I half-heartedly installed it on one of my little-used machines some time ago (1.6.1 iirc), but didn't really spend a lot of time with it. My main workstation is Fbsd 6.0, but i'm having an issue with a series of bugs or quirks in sysinstall and glibs in the ports collection. Maybe I'm just thick or something, but after a couple of months of googling, mopish hacks and/or otherwise trying to resolve these I'm running out of motivation. (There are open bug reports on most of these issues but they don't affect everyone so they're not being followed up on. Fbsd devels are busy with more important things, and I appreciate that).
So for now I've decided to upgrade that little 1.6.1 machine to 3.0 and try that out for awhile. Take a break from my issues above. So far I like it. I had the assumption that nbsd would be "all business no fun" (like obsd) but I'm pleasantly surprised. pkgsrc seems no less comprehensive than FreeBSD's ports selection (well duh), or at least I'm finding all the stuff that -I- use in there.
I still feel like I'm running away from my problems but at the moment nbsd seems like a nice umbrella to stand under for the time being.
What are anti-science types doing reading Slashdot. Really?
True that. MSN tends to take an article about this size and break it up into 3 pages, so you can get hit with 3x the flash ads.
For BBC? maybe only a matter of time?
Go Debian! One of the last strongholds of The True Linux(tm).
Thanks for the tip! Good news it is.... Movies are cool, but I wonder if they'll hold up to a series type implementation.
It's sad to see that BBC is now following suit of PMSNBC and CNN in creating fluffy, repetetetive, 'sound-byte' laden articles like this one. You could probably sum this all up in one paragraph, about like the blurb on the top of the page here is.
Bummer.
Hopefully, the rumors of resurrecting Futurama are true. Same scenario- Fox cancels show, rabid fanbase interests another network in ordering more.
oh please oh please oh please oh please....
...shouldn't the NetBSD folks be piping up right now and saying "we've had nbsd on the MacTel for 28 years now!!!"
(it's sarcasm)
Seriously tho... I don't see any point in dual-booting a Mac with Linux. You do that sort of thing with an oldschool x86 Windows machine, because Linux will give you stuff that Windows won't. In theory, there's not a whole lot that Linux can do that you can't do with OSX.
Most of the ppl that got into Linux so they'd look l337 have already jumped onto the OSX bandwagon anyways. Nothing to report here...
How about the lyric "you make a dead man cum"? :D
....slackware does matter. I am seeing a trend of ppl who try out linux first with either Mandrake or Fedora core. Nothing wrong with that, but as n00bs the do the usual thing such as install everything and turn everything on. Nothing wrong with that either-
-however-
Instead of going the classic route of tuning a 'big' or 'bloated' installation to fit their needs, they seem to be tossing it all aside and jumping on the Gentoo bandwagon. Not a bad thing in itself, but by comparison Gentoo will *seem* faster to them because the only experience they had was their Mandrake box running KDE, Apache, Samba, et all and having all these background services running. It perpetuates the Gentoo Myth and creates some zealotry. (or maybe the zealotry is unavoidable regardless, i dunno).
Very "straight forward" distros like slackware and debian will always have a place for advanced users to build the linux they need. It also serves as a good demonstration that the benefits of linux aren't unique to Gentoo. Whether Gentoo's model is good or bad is up for debate, but it is good to have different philosophies and different development strategies.
Besides, Slackware is classic.
The whole "Dis-separation of church and state" that our current administration has done absolutely freaks me out more than any of the other 'popular ridicule points'. Obviously there are plenty of other kooks out there that are disturbing as hell but never before (at least in my lifetime) have I seen such a thing be viewed as "OK".
I could say more but I wont.
Wolf also said a larger than expected percentage of Windows to Mac converts appear to be purchasing Apple's higher-end systems
Is he suggesting that they are purchasing the higher-end of the Apple spectrum, or is it the usual drivel about all Apple hardware (generally) being "high end"?
I've heard many many many Mac users call their iMacs and iBooks "High-End UNIX Workstations" or "High-End UNIX X-Servers".
Fuck them. If someone wants to follow the ways of some kooky Christian mythology or other religion, then more power to them. However, the fundamentalists that are trying to eradicate science, education, graven images, homosexuality or whatever it is that they percieve as some threat while trying to shove their bullshit down other people's throats need to STFU. It's one thing to live your life the way you want, but don't try to dictate how others should live theirs, or what they believe. If they're offended by some cartoon daemon as a mascot for an OS then they can happily stay away. I'd prefer they not meddle with anything else.
I am sickened by the amount of foothold this has gotten in the U.S. since oh, 2000 or so.
Many countries, particularly developing ones, have become increasingly concerned about the U.S. control,
And here I thought all the toplevel root DNS servers and domain registration was done in Canada.
Shows what I know.
I must agree though, that most of "The Internet" (in the form of infrastructure) is in North America. For the most part, it works. Why invite an opportunity to screw it up?
Canada is a capitalist nation, just like most modern nations. Just because you live in Canada doesn't exempt you from having your "rights" and concerns over-ridden with the more important rights and concerns of revenue making, tax-paying, politician lobbying private industries.
Shhhhh.... you'll wake up all the Canadian neoCons that they're trying to hide from public view. Once their neoCons start spouting the Canadians won't be able to make fun of the U.S. in a global arena to differentiate themselves from the white trash to the south anymore.
In the U.S., the Do Not Call Registry was about as effective as well. The bosses signed up our business phone lines and nothing has really changed. We still get on average of 20-50 solicitation calls a day.
That doesn't sound like much, but for a small mom-n-pop ISP run by 4 guys and a dog with 2 phone lines, it's awful. Fwiw, we're all pretty good at screening calls via Caller ID.
Good luck to our fellow Canadian brethren, whether they've disowned us or not.
By default, a game based on a movie has to suck. It's one of the unwritten rules of the industry that movie games are pure profit: Stamp it out quick, screw the gameplay, and we'll make it up to the players with our next genre-buster
True in almost every case! However, I would almost expect the Fantastic 4 game to have much more potential for entertainment than the movie did.
"Anadtech has an article up comparing the IBM G5 with Intel's CPU. This gives us insight on the strength and weakness of Mac OS X.
Weakness?!?! This is Slashdot! We're talking about Apple! Apple is perfect in every way! They've been weakness-free since 1954!! They never make mistakes, poor marketing decisions or EVER do anything that can be construed as EVIL because they're Apple!
*clonk*
...that wasn't a dialup phone line.
Price to pay for living in a rural area. I'm surrounded by Amish so i doubt there is much of a CableTV/DSL demand out here.
Yeah, but i still bet nothing switches data as warmly as vacuum tubes...... /me snickers, waits for it.
Can Open Source and Commercial Software Coexist?
Isn't that what they are currently doing?
Apple?
Sun?
Debian?
various *BSDs?
(I could be sardonic and note that I can place a Debian CD on top of a Windows cd and they'd dissapear in a puff of smoke)