It's the same with any perceived competition. Sports teams, politics, religion. People (not just kids) feel the need to belong to some amorphous group that likes the same thing they do.
If you constantly proclaim how the other side sucks, you'll feel like your backing the right horse.
I enjoy owning all the consoles. I get to play any games that are released. It's just the order in which to purchase them that becomes a tough decision for me.
While I think it's great that Square finally got back on Nintendo, their flagship title is still Sony-exclusive. I don't see them switching this generation either due to the large amount of data they love putting on those discs.
I do think that GTA4 coming out on the 360 at the same time as the PS3 will hurt PS3 sales down the road. Anyone still undecided next year won't have to buy a PS3 to get it like they did with the PS2.
But I don't think you can count anybody out yet. I wasn't at all interested in picking up a 360 (I'm befuddled about all the hype over Halo), but Gears of War and Dead Rising have made me think about it. These are a couple of non-franchise games that came out of nowhere in the grand scheme of things. There'll be many titles like that for all the consoles.
these 3 high-profile franchises which pretty have pretty much kept the PSOne and PS2 running
While those franchises certainly helped sell systems, they're hardly what kept the PS2 running. There was only one real FF game on it before last week, two MGS games, and GTA is cross-platform.
It was the hundreds of games in between these releases that kept people buying PS2 games.
I'd be terribly surprised if the price drops before next Christmas. There will certainly be games which make it worth owning the system out by then.
I'm not camping out to buy one or anything, but as soon as I can easily order one online, I'll be buying one... if these are still the only titles available or not.
Maybe the price is an issue, maybe not (see my other reply). Supply issues will eventually be resolved. There's always supply problems at a console launch. But price and supply have nothing to do with the article.
Trépanier said "Forcing people to adopt a technology and a model that's proprietary and still not established is unfair to gamers."
I don't see how. How does only allowing only one type of MOVIE to be played on a system have anything to do with gaming?
And don't they both offer DVD playback out of the box?
I still don't see it. $399 for the higher end Xbox vs. $599 for the higher end PS3. It's not like the only difference there is the Blue-Ray.
You're getting a larger HD, Wifi support (which MS charges $100 for), and flash card readers. Obviously the price is higher, but the features (even ignoring the Blue-Ray) are there to support the price.
I won't be buying either system until there's some/more games for them, but the prices are comparable.
Having mostly ignored the format wars I don't understand Nintendo's statement. For consoles the disc media is meaningless, no? I mean it's not like I can take a Wii game and stick it in my computer and play it.
The only format forcing is the one that's always been there. If you want to play Nintendo games, you buy the Nintendo hardware. Same for Sony and MS.
The HD-DVD add on is optional and the ability to play Blue-Ray on the PS3 is just a bonus.
That'd be like saying Shakespear was unoriginal for writing with the Latin alphabet.
It'd be more like if 1/3 of all Shakespeare stories had Romeo and Juliet in them. Do you think Shakespeare would still hold up if he couldn't be bothered to come up with something new to write about?
I think you're just cherry picking the best of television and the worst of movies. Pound for pound I'd say the amount of rubbish is equal. Movie rubbish being more obvious because of the marketing dollars behind it. For every Heroes or Studio 60, there's two or ten Joeys or Yes Dears.
And while the shows you mentioned are certainly much better than many dramas that have come before them, I think they're nothing compared to what's being done on premium cable. HBO especially.
Even if they did prosecute, it does you know good once they'd messed with your database or otherwise hacked you.
You could say the same thing about murder. Or any other crime. The point of prosecution isn't to magically make the misdeed go away, it's to keep the ass from doing it again.
When has the RIAA gone after indy labels? I'm not saying it never happens, I've just never heard of it.
And IMO P2P will never kill the RIAA. It's going to be the artists rejecting the "indentured servitude" they offer and discovering that they CAN be successful without the RIAA that will do it.
If these people were using p2p legally, they'd find other ways to try to crush p2p.
Why would they? Legal P2P doesn't involve their interests. If there weren't a single RIAA song ever transferred over P2P you think that the RIAA would care?
I'm no big fan of the RIAA, but to say that they'd attempt to squelch technology which doesn't harm ( or can be perceived to harm) their business in any way is a bit ridiculous.
Just like it was completely calculated beforehand that the Dreamcast would all but kill Sega as a company?
Because children crying that it's "3xp3ns!v3" on their blogs is really calculated.
Saying that the PS3 will be a failure OR a success is nothing but speculation at this point.
Just because you may not want one, don't assume that nobody else does either.
Driving under the influence and domestic abuse have nothing to do with alcohol or drugs. If wreckless driving and violence only happened when the offender was intoxicated, I might buy that argument. Irresponsible and violent people are irresponsible and violent with or without drugs. But it's easy to point to drugs as the boogey man who made me do all those bad things.
The physical health problems associated with abuse of alcohol and other drugs could be substituted with hot dogs and Little Debbies. The people who will abuse their bodies to do what makes them feel good will do so using anything they have available to them whether it be drugs, food, dangerous sports, gambling, or unsafe sex.
Criminalizing vices does nothing to treat the problem, it only causes more crime both becuase of the vice itself and the acts that are associated with obtaining those vices.
Rating systems are completely unecessary attempts to circumvent the 1st amendment.
What? You're insane. They're tools used to help people make informed purchasing decisions. Nothing less and nothing more. The rating gives an indication of the game's content. The same as a vehicle's HP will give you an indication of its performance, or the amps on a vacuum will give you an indication of its suction power.
Calm down with the hyperbole. You're coming off like a politician.
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It's the same with any perceived competition. Sports teams, politics, religion. People (not just kids) feel the need to belong to some amorphous group that likes the same thing they do.
If you constantly proclaim how the other side sucks, you'll feel like your backing the right horse.
I enjoy owning all the consoles. I get to play any games that are released. It's just the order in which to purchase them that becomes a tough decision for me.
Not the commercial you mentioned, but interesting nontheless.
While I think it's great that Square finally got back on Nintendo, their flagship title is still Sony-exclusive. I don't see them switching this generation either due to the large amount of data they love putting on those discs.
I do think that GTA4 coming out on the 360 at the same time as the PS3 will hurt PS3 sales down the road. Anyone still undecided next year won't have to buy a PS3 to get it like they did with the PS2.
But I don't think you can count anybody out yet. I wasn't at all interested in picking up a 360 (I'm befuddled about all the hype over Halo), but Gears of War and Dead Rising have made me think about it. These are a couple of non-franchise games that came out of nowhere in the grand scheme of things. There'll be many titles like that for all the consoles.
these 3 high-profile franchises which pretty have pretty much kept the PSOne and PS2 running
While those franchises certainly helped sell systems, they're hardly what kept the PS2 running. There was only one real FF game on it before last week, two MGS games, and GTA is cross-platform.
It was the hundreds of games in between these releases that kept people buying PS2 games.
I'd be terribly surprised if the price drops before next Christmas. There will certainly be games which make it worth owning the system out by then.
I'm not camping out to buy one or anything, but as soon as I can easily order one online, I'll be buying one... if these are still the only titles available or not.
Because that's the only good game that will ever come out on the system.
Good thinking. I was going to buy one until you brilliantly pointed out how consoles' launch lineups are always lacking.
Thanks.
Maybe the price is an issue, maybe not (see my other reply). Supply issues will eventually be resolved. There's always supply problems at a console launch. But price and supply have nothing to do with the article.
Trépanier said "Forcing people to adopt a technology and a model that's proprietary and still not established is unfair to gamers."
I don't see how. How does only allowing only one type of MOVIE to be played on a system have anything to do with gaming?
And don't they both offer DVD playback out of the box?
I still don't see it. $399 for the higher end Xbox vs. $599 for the higher end PS3. It's not like the only difference there is the Blue-Ray.
You're getting a larger HD, Wifi support (which MS charges $100 for), and flash card readers. Obviously the price is higher, but the features (even ignoring the Blue-Ray) are there to support the price.
I won't be buying either system until there's some/more games for them, but the prices are comparable.
Having mostly ignored the format wars I don't understand Nintendo's statement. For consoles the disc media is meaningless, no? I mean it's not like I can take a Wii game and stick it in my computer and play it.
The only format forcing is the one that's always been there. If you want to play Nintendo games, you buy the Nintendo hardware. Same for Sony and MS.
The HD-DVD add on is optional and the ability to play Blue-Ray on the PS3 is just a bonus.
I don't see the problem.
This is most distressing.
I would have been much more concerned if the robot immediately reported Tasty Human Meat.
I know of at least 3 ways to gunk up hardware that take less effort.
Wait... four.
That'd be like saying Shakespear was unoriginal for writing with the Latin alphabet.
It'd be more like if 1/3 of all Shakespeare stories had Romeo and Juliet in them. Do you think Shakespeare would still hold up if he couldn't be bothered to come up with something new to write about?
While The Wire is fantastic, it will never fill the void that Deadwood has left in my soul.
I think you're just cherry picking the best of television and the worst of movies. Pound for pound I'd say the amount of rubbish is equal. Movie rubbish being more obvious because of the marketing dollars behind it. For every Heroes or Studio 60, there's two or ten Joeys or Yes Dears.
And while the shows you mentioned are certainly much better than many dramas that have come before them, I think they're nothing compared to what's being done on premium cable. HBO especially.
Movies > Cable > Broadcast TV.
The big networks just can't afford the risk.
Even if they did prosecute, it does you know good once they'd messed with your database or otherwise hacked you.
You could say the same thing about murder. Or any other crime. The point of prosecution isn't to magically make the misdeed go away, it's to keep the ass from doing it again.
the Bush Administration does not let its people 'spend more time with their families' for general incompetence
Bullshit. Bush spends tons of time with his family in Crawford.
When has the RIAA gone after indy labels? I'm not saying it never happens, I've just never heard of it.
And IMO P2P will never kill the RIAA. It's going to be the artists rejecting the "indentured servitude" they offer and discovering that they CAN be successful without the RIAA that will do it.
If these people were using p2p legally, they'd find other ways to try to crush p2p.
Why would they? Legal P2P doesn't involve their interests. If there weren't a single RIAA song ever transferred over P2P you think that the RIAA would care?
I'm no big fan of the RIAA, but to say that they'd attempt to squelch technology which doesn't harm ( or can be perceived to harm) their business in any way is a bit ridiculous.
Query: Are you a robot?
Supposition: Yes you are
I happy
I angry!
Me smash!
The PS3's failure has been a calculated one
Just like it was completely calculated beforehand that the Dreamcast would all but kill Sega as a company?
Because children crying that it's "3xp3ns!v3" on their blogs is really calculated.
Saying that the PS3 will be a failure OR a success is nothing but speculation at this point.
Just because you may not want one, don't assume that nobody else does either.
Maybe she didn't want the RIAA to see the 5,000 pictures of her dancing in her underwear with her cat.
Or the alternative... don't test our vehicle's safety standards. Trust us when we say you'll be just fine.
Don't test the flammability of these children's pajamas. Trust us when we say they're perfectly safe.
Druken driving, domestic abuse, chronic alcohol abuse, physical problems stemming from chronic alcohol
Driving under the influence and domestic abuse have nothing to do with alcohol or drugs. If wreckless driving and violence only happened when the offender was intoxicated, I might buy that argument. Irresponsible and violent people are irresponsible and violent with or without drugs. But it's easy to point to drugs as the boogey man who made me do all those bad things.
The physical health problems associated with abuse of alcohol and other drugs could be substituted with hot dogs and Little Debbies. The people who will abuse their bodies to do what makes them feel good will do so using anything they have available to them whether it be drugs, food, dangerous sports, gambling, or unsafe sex.
Criminalizing vices does nothing to treat the problem, it only causes more crime both becuase of the vice itself and the acts that are associated with obtaining those vices.
Rating systems are completely unecessary attempts to circumvent the 1st amendment.
What? You're insane. They're tools used to help people make informed purchasing decisions. Nothing less and nothing more. The rating gives an indication of the game's content. The same as a vehicle's HP will give you an indication of its performance, or the amps on a vacuum will give you an indication of its suction power.
Calm down with the hyperbole. You're coming off like a politician.