Even if all you do is buy the system and put Linux on it without buying any games, you've also cost them dollars.
It's incredible naive to think that once people have done that, they won't use it to play burnt games or to hack into the xbox live network and cause damage there.
Well the xbox 360 is actually the best one for solving the problem with gaming, and graphics have nothing to do with it.
The problem is gaming is not the graphics or the controller, but the games themselves. For the most part, the games currently are very similar to each other and very expensive to create.
You aren't going to see a lot of innovation when games cost so much to produce and distribute.
But at least with the Xbox live Arcade, smaller developers are able to create all kind of new gaming experiences and get them out to a large audience.
Xbox Live provides an opportunity for indie developers to succeed, take risks, and innovate. Something the bigger guys rarely do.
A game console should wait for potentially years for the Blu-Ray and HD-DVD problem to be resolved?
Especially when both formats will have virtually no impact on games?
The average current pc game that uses all the latest features and high resolution textures is only around 4-5 Gigs. The higher that goes, the more expensive games become to make.
And if one dvd isn't enough, just....revolutionary idea coming.... use two dvds.
The PS3 having Blu-Ray has very little to do with games, but with Sony's overall consumer electronics plans.
"1. No HD-DVD or Blu-Ray- whatever happens with this media format debacle, the people with the new 360 out now wont have it. "
I don't see how microsoft swapping out the standard dvd drive for a Blu-Ray/HD-DVD drive a year from now would make any difference for games. All older games would work as before, but now you can also watch Blu-Ray/HD-DVD movies.
Where's the confusion?
The Debut linup is widely regarded as pretty good for a new console. Historically, console launches don't have a great long term impact.
That you don't like sports, or "shooting Nazis" is at best anecdotal evidence. Console companies wouldn't stay in business very long by only catering any one person's specific tastes.
Only one of the fps games available involves World War 2, and even that one has received pretty good ratings.
"3. Debut game lineup-What lineup? If I don't like sports or shooting Nazi's... not much left, maybe Kameo. Much of the "meat and potatoes" was delayed past X-mas, creating a weird kinda of late winter "secondary launch". "
Which is a clear cut advantage, once you realise that Speculation goes both ways.
Option 1: Watch movies of what "the revolution/ps3 may play or look like." The price and release dates aren't set in stone, you know nothing more than it "will" be coming out eventually. Revolution controller "seems" like a new idea, but how will it work out in games?
Will PS3 be able to make games from what they've shown, or is it again simply typical Sony hype ala "the PS2 with an Emotion Engine SUPER COMPUTER that's so powerful that the US government is baning them from being sent to Iraq to power nuclear weapon progams."
Option 2: Buy the console that came out today, play games, and take advantage of the console's online advantages today.
Or buy it later. When the other consoles come out, xbox 360 will be a better value for the money. From being out first it will have more and better games available and have a lower price due to a price cut.
"4.All they are competing with is heresay and conjecture-The hard and fast realities of the PS3 and Revolution are still out in the open. So a decision by the consumer is hard to make, because no real comparison can be made. This will inevitably create a bubble of "undecided". Although with how rabid gamers can be, there will always be those too impatient to wait.
I'm no fanboy, I own all three of the current generation and agree all have things about them I like. It just seems to me that we've got a situation here where the 4th grader has rushed to finish his test first and hand it in to the teacher so he can look back at the class and say "I'm done first". Even though he did a sloppy job, didn't fully answer each question and in the end didn't get a great grade."
Even the cheapest of computer components in Canada come with a one year (manufacturer) warranty standard.
After six months whoever's buying this thing will be upgrading it anyways or can easily replace the whole thing if it breaks, so while it sounds rediculous, it's not a big deal to them.
But to me - a top of the line, spare no expense toy, with this kind of warranty, doesn't inspire confidence in the quality of the product. Burn in or no burn in.
A new ferrari wouldn't come with that kind of warranty.
It's only free if you don't include the cost of scanning all the books, storing the data, managing it, etc.
Sure - the publicity for google more than makes up for the costs, but there's no "free" for google.
Only the Authors benefit from this without having to spend a single cent. And since they're the content providers, there's nothing wrong with that.
The authors benefit, but the Authors Guild itself doesn't.
Hm...maybe they're suing with no intention to go to trial, only to get a settlement and a cut of google's cash. Wouldn't be the first time a union type body did something like that for their own interests under the guise of being for their members.
It's all speculation anyways.
Otherwise, no real complaints with it so far. Ideally, I'd still like more advanced search options within GDS (for example: the ability to find all pictures taken within a range of dates like Chrismas).
Somewhat surprised it took this long for gmail search to be incorporated
Actually this shows the strength of Open Source Marketing - if such a term exists.
Just take a quick look at Spread Firefox and take a look at how high the number of firefox downloads is now. Only a few weeks away from 50 million.
Sure it's due more to viral marketing than anything else, but Opera could have been there too and isn't.
That being said - doing what they are doing now and focusing on the mobile market is the better long term business decision.
The true winner is really the consumer from the competition, so keep up the good work all.
Ever thought that they might make one product that would take the best of both competing products?
Even if they decided to axe one, there's no reason they wouldn't do that.
This is all premature anyways.
I find that Deutsche Welle http://dw-world.de/ is the best online resource available for learning German. They have things like the daily news spoken slowly, with a manuscript.
There are also audio lessons and more stuff there in mp3 format, you can take with you offline on your mp3 player.
While having good tech, brand recognition, and a hacker friendly box - before this Tivo was a company whose days were numbered due to competition and commoditization.
Now they live to fight another day and build up their install base.
Cheers to another successful company using with Open Source Software....before they used to say it couldn't be done.
1. Clearly Firefox isn't made for you, or targeted for you. Mozilla is designed for a different audience than firefox - that's pretty clear - so there's no need for the elitist, holier-than-thou attitude.
2. Mozilla isn't going anywhere. You will always have a choice. Insulting people who don't agree with your choice makes you no better.
3. 10 megs is that much harder than 5 megs for people who don't have broadband to download. Firefox and mozilla need these people, especially considering Broadband penetration in the US is barely at 50%. http://www.websiteoptimization.com/bw/0403/
4. The majority of Firefox users are not editing any 10 page config file. It's doubtfull they even know that such an animal exists. The majority of OS X users aren't ever going to see a console prompt either.
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I don't see Google compromising the integrity of their bread and butter, their search results, for a mere 5% of AOL.
A 5% gain of AOL wouldn't be worth the 10-15% loss in traffic they'd suffer from no longer being the place to go to search.
Even if all you do is buy the system and put Linux on it without buying any games, you've also cost them dollars. It's incredible naive to think that once people have done that, they won't use it to play burnt games or to hack into the xbox live network and cause damage there.
Of course they care, their entire business model is based on you buying games AND the console.
As there's already a media centre solution availabe for the system, the only real use for this will be to pirate games.
Well the xbox 360 is actually the best one for solving the problem with gaming, and graphics have nothing to do with it.
The problem is gaming is not the graphics or the controller, but the games themselves. For the most part, the games currently are very similar to each other and very expensive to create.
You aren't going to see a lot of innovation when games cost so much to produce and distribute.
But at least with the Xbox live Arcade, smaller developers are able to create all kind of new gaming experiences and get them out to a large audience.
Xbox Live provides an opportunity for indie developers to succeed, take risks, and innovate. Something the bigger guys rarely do.
Just like in the movie industry.
Say what? This is a disadvantage how?
....revolutionary idea coming.... use two dvds.
A game console should wait for potentially years for the Blu-Ray and HD-DVD problem to be resolved?
Especially when both formats will have virtually no impact on games?
The average current pc game that uses all the latest features and high resolution textures is only around 4-5 Gigs. The higher that goes, the more expensive games become to make.
And if one dvd isn't enough, just
The PS3 having Blu-Ray has very little to do with games, but with Sony's overall consumer electronics plans.
"1. No HD-DVD or Blu-Ray- whatever happens with this media format debacle, the people with the new 360 out now wont have it. "
I don't see how microsoft swapping out the standard dvd drive for a Blu-Ray/HD-DVD drive a year from now would make any difference for games. All older games would work as before, but now you can also watch Blu-Ray/HD-DVD movies.
Where's the confusion?
The Debut linup is widely regarded as pretty good for a new console. Historically, console launches don't have a great long term impact.
That you don't like sports, or "shooting Nazis" is at best anecdotal evidence. Console companies wouldn't stay in business very long by only catering any one person's specific tastes.
Only one of the fps games available involves World War 2, and even that one has received pretty good ratings.
"3. Debut game lineup-What lineup? If I don't like sports or shooting Nazi's... not much left, maybe Kameo. Much of the "meat and potatoes" was delayed past X-mas, creating a weird kinda of late winter "secondary launch". "
Which is a clear cut advantage, once you realise that Speculation goes both ways.
Option 1: Watch movies of what "the revolution/ps3 may play or look like." The price and release dates aren't set in stone, you know nothing more than it "will" be coming out eventually. Revolution controller "seems" like a new idea, but how will it work out in games?
Will PS3 be able to make games from what they've shown, or is it again simply typical Sony hype ala "the PS2 with an Emotion Engine SUPER COMPUTER that's so powerful that the US government is baning them from being sent to Iraq to power nuclear weapon progams."
Option 2: Buy the console that came out today, play games, and take advantage of the console's online advantages today.
Or buy it later. When the other consoles come out, xbox 360 will be a better value for the money. From being out first it will have more and better games available and have a lower price due to a price cut.
"4.All they are competing with is heresay and conjecture-The hard and fast realities of the PS3 and Revolution are still out in the open. So a decision by the consumer is hard to make, because no real comparison can be made. This will inevitably create a bubble of "undecided". Although with how rabid gamers can be, there will always be those too impatient to wait.
I'm no fanboy, I own all three of the current generation and agree all have things about them I like. It just seems to me that we've got a situation here where the 4th grader has rushed to finish his test first and hand it in to the teacher so he can look back at the class and say "I'm done first". Even though he did a sloppy job, didn't fully answer each question and in the end didn't get a great grade."
Actually, according to the ESA you are part of the minority, as more than 60% of video game players are over 18 years old.
Nope.
Word of mouth is not the problem. More software developers just results in more of the same.
There's no solution to the problem there.
You have to appeal to the mass audience, who need their main IM to have cool features like video (that you call bloat) and for it to look appealing.
They don't want their IM to look like Windows in Safe Mode.
Security's important, but it's not sexy to the masses.
Agreed.
Even the cheapest of computer components in Canada come with a one year (manufacturer) warranty standard.
After six months whoever's buying this thing will be upgrading it anyways or can easily replace the whole thing if it breaks, so while it sounds rediculous, it's not a big deal to them.
But to me - a top of the line, spare no expense toy, with this kind of warranty, doesn't inspire confidence in the quality of the product. Burn in or no burn in.
A new ferrari wouldn't come with that kind of warranty.
It's only free if you don't include the cost of scanning all the books, storing the data, managing it, etc. Sure - the publicity for google more than makes up for the costs, but there's no "free" for google. Only the Authors benefit from this without having to spend a single cent. And since they're the content providers, there's nothing wrong with that. The authors benefit, but the Authors Guild itself doesn't. Hm...maybe they're suing with no intention to go to trial, only to get a settlement and a cut of google's cash. Wouldn't be the first time a union type body did something like that for their own interests under the guise of being for their members. It's all speculation anyways.
Then that will be something truely compelling. gmail + talk + search in one convient place would be quite interesting.
No thanks.
I only read duplicate stories. If it's not good enough to be green-lighted four or five times in a month, it's simply not worth reading.
The sidebar looks interesting...
Otherwise, no real complaints with it so far. Ideally, I'd still like more advanced search options within GDS (for example: the ability to find all pictures taken within a range of dates like Chrismas).
Somewhat surprised it took this long for gmail search to be incorporated
GOOFUS has a part time job selling microscopes. GALLANT has a part time job selling Monorails http://www.snpp.com/episodes/9F10.html/ !
My North America includes Canada, who has neither a second amendment, nor a history of taking out their own government with guns.
Actually this shows the strength of Open Source Marketing - if such a term exists.
Just take a quick look at Spread Firefox and take a look at how high the number of firefox downloads is now. Only a few weeks away from 50 million.
Sure it's due more to viral marketing than anything else, but Opera could have been there too and isn't.
That being said - doing what they are doing now and focusing on the mobile market is the better long term business decision.
The true winner is really the consumer from the competition, so keep up the good work all.
Ever thought that they might make one product that would take the best of both competing products? Even if they decided to axe one, there's no reason they wouldn't do that. This is all premature anyways.
Firefox - it gets you chicks!
What the porn industry will do with this!
It is. I've been doing courses there since last April.
There are also audio lessons and more stuff there in mp3 format, you can take with you offline on your mp3 player.
All free too. http://german.about.com/ is alright too.
of apple releasing a two button mouse!
Could use a google one too.
Some days - we need a non-google icon.
While having good tech, brand recognition, and a hacker friendly box - before this Tivo was a company whose days were numbered due to competition and commoditization.
...before they used to say it couldn't be done.
Now they live to fight another day and build up their install base.
Cheers to another successful company using with Open Source Software.
1. Clearly Firefox isn't made for you, or targeted for you. Mozilla is designed for a different audience than firefox - that's pretty clear - so there's no need for the elitist, holier-than-thou attitude.
2. Mozilla isn't going anywhere. You will always have a choice. Insulting people who don't agree with your choice makes you no better.
3. 10 megs is that much harder than 5 megs for people who don't have broadband to download. Firefox and mozilla need these people, especially considering Broadband penetration in the US is barely at 50%. http://www.websiteoptimization.com/bw/0403/
4. The majority of Firefox users are not editing any 10 page config file. It's doubtfull they even know that such an animal exists. The majority of OS X users aren't ever going to see a console prompt either.
...Depends on the basement...