If this makes it easier to get Coco back on TV, I'm all for it. It'd be pure comedy gold to have Conan turn up as the Cable representative to tear down the Peacock.
If this is using Flash to display the images on the client, does this mean we'll be able to play PC games on Flash using Phones/Tablets/mini-netbooks with hardware decoding? I've seen a demo of Everquest running on an Android phone, just remoting the display and sending key presses back to the game running on the decent gaming rig. It was actually usable for alot of game playing.
This has some amazing potential, as long as the latency isn't too bad. I can see this working great for alot of games that are out there now. Just FPS'like games I can see there being issues.
So.. interpreted is not ok atm, but might be ok next week. Cross compiled flash is not ok now, but might be ok if server side translated to be displayed. Showing too much on a desktop picture frame still gets your app removed. Flash (that'd allow more apps to run, just no totalitarian control of the app market) will never be allowed. Gotcha.
Stuff even attempting to develop on this platform.
Bah, was looking forward to this. For me, that form factor is fantastic. But 1.6 and a Dell 'experience' UI? Oh dear Dell. I'm not a fan of the soft-touch buttons either, prefer to have solid buttons to press for home/back. They're very fiddly on the NexusOne, the HTC Desire's button configuration is alot better. And the power button on the top near the camera? Hmm... Odd choice. Should be more obvious (unless you can configure the Camera button to power up!) In the breakdowns of the hardware, not seen where the Notification light is, that's odd (don't mind no trackball, I can't recall where I've used it). To try and get it to fit the tablet mode, it seems to want to/really/ force you to use it's Landscape mode, not Portrait. It makes their UI look better I supposed, but seems odd you don't get the option when it's still more phonelike than tablet. That feels...artificial?
I really did want one, but I'll wait and see how long it takes to get 2.2, if it's longer than 3 months, I think I'll pass for now and wait for other solutions as I don't want to be beholden to Dell for other vital upgrade
Dell/really/ needed to deploy standard Android 2.2 with this.
Now they're just laughing at us. I wonder if these changes were due to unexpected demand, and them knowing there's a larger amount of people who'll be happy to be gouged.
I'm still confused though, wouldn't Android + Chrome browser work just as well, if not better? And Android + browsers are out now, working.
As is, when they do eventually bring out a Chrome tablet and it doesn't have access to all the Android marketplace apps, just web, why would someone choose that over an Android tablet + web + apps? Just seems an odd thing.
The article referenced originally does make a fair point, we're about to be flooded with cheap (and very inferior) Android Tablets shortly, it might hurt the overall platform.
Again, if they had a Tegra powered, 1GB ram, 8ish inch Android tablet running 2.2 to get Flash/existing apps, 3g, I'd be all over it.
All these demo unit's/available in China, I just want one now!
2.2 minimum, tegra would be nice, standard usb socket to charge (as well as another one to drop in cradle for hdmi output I guess), bluetooth keyboard support as standard so I can use a keyboard with it if I want to, or just lug around without and use the onscreen one if I have to. Done. I've got a credit card warmed up and ready to use for something like that. Why all this 1.5/1.6 stuff? Seems to be true that there's alot of Android Tablets inc, heck, they were showing dozens of them off before Apple even admitted they had a tablet
I do have some fears. It appears if you've got a non-Google phone, updates are looking risky. As much as the new Dell tablets ones look neat, if Google(htc) brought their own out, I'd probably go for that with a better expectation that it'll be supported for later updates. Whats the Chome Tablet for? Seems odd for them to fracture their own market when Android seems great and well suited for a tablet. Can the Chrome browser just be chucked on an existing Android platform to give people more choice?
But yeah, if the Dell tablets were going on sale tomorrow at Best Buy, I'd be typing this out on my G1 camped outside.
Nothing new about Apple patenting existing apps I guess. Though as mentioned, it's not mainstream, having an iphone adapter in the car to play music, and using that same phone to open the door makes sense.
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Had this happen myself looking at a dell netbook. I asked why one was more expensive than the other as it looked like a similiar spec. They said they'd optimised it. I asked what needed to be optimised on a stock xp install (thinking drivers perhaps updated, nothing that a windows update wouldn't fix) and was then shown task-manager and told to look at all the things running. I asked 'which service can you disable in that list that isn't needed and will make the system run faster?' and she didn't know. I got the 'unoptimised' version, and noticed it had been filled with crapware and dell/bestbuy links that aren't standard. So, yeah, basically, you're paying them to remove the stuff that THEY've already added.
Pretty soon, we'll be buying phones with data plans and the voice plan will be optional (if needed at all). All we need is Google to get their phones coming with a VOIP client as standard. Big unique selling point that no matter what network, or if you're not even on a network but just have wireless at home/work/in car/train/plane, you can make/receive calls.
Using phone numbers and keeping a local phonebook of addresses makes as much sense as using IP numbers in a browser to get to a website. Google providing their DNS to allow new services to be added like this was another one of the steps needed to be done. Google Voice is a stopgap, their newly acquisitioned VOIP stuff is the next step.
Shortly, it'll be standard to call someone using an email address and the data-networks will route as needed to their phone/home/business.
So... Google voice first for voice. Last week Gizmo5 for voip and now rolling out their own DNS?
Looks like all the infrastructure pieces are in place for the mass change of how cell phones are going to work.
For years I've wondered why we still have phone numbers. With address books stored on the phones to map names (hosts) to phone numbers (ip's). With all the phones these days having decent data connections as standard, looks like we're going to get a central way of handling this. So my phone contact will be 'Fred@Domain.com' If I send an email with that address, it gets sent to their mail. If I make a call to that address, does the DNS lookup, finds out their phone number (that we can re-configure our end to handle calling home phone or cell phone, and with location based rules on an android phone, you'd be able to automate it as you left your house, it lets the phone DNS know to call the cell phone, then as you get to your desk location, remap to office phone for non-personal calls). All possible as standard.
We're not going to get phone and choose to have a dataplan, we're going to have phones + dataplans and that's it. telcoms industry HAVE to know this surely?
(personal wish, as calls are made to someone, there's a quick lookup for capabilities of the device you're calling, then popup the choices to make normal call, send a text, allow the webcam to work, or most importantly, present a URL to an MP3 that's YOUR ringtone, so you can set up a theme tune and as you call people, they hear your tune (as long as they've not turned that off))
I recall this in the UK about, uhm, 5-6ish years ago. 2570 on the phone I think it was (middle numbers), hold the phone up in the club and it'd then break the call after a few moments. Then, you'd get the text message back listing what it was. 50p to id a song. THEN, you could log into the website with your mobile number and download the song you'd ID'd for a cost. Very clever.
No more pirate/vampire/werewolf invitations, please...
Facebook started off a great site, fast, clean design, it's now incredibly slow and hard todo anything, whereas myspace actually is improving. Still waiting for a mybook, or facespace to integrate the messaging.
Honestly? it's instantly recognisable as NiN, the sounds of heavy industry with pumps and electric guitars screeching kinda give it away as NiN. If Barry could make music as discordant and beautiful as this, he'd have an all new type of fan base at his shows rather then the middle aged women he gets atm. Barry Manilow goths, that'd be interesting to see. That's the wonder of NiN I've found, he'll try his hand at a fair few things, but always keeps that Discordant NiN sound throughout.
My friends and crazy amount of time in my youth were spent playing theses games. We did all sorts of systems, but it was AD&D that was the main campaign we played variations of for years. If it wasn't for EQ, we'd all probably STILL be sat around a table on tuesday nights with character sheets in front of us. Fare thee well sir in whichever higher plane you eventually end up.
Spent 40 bucks on a 2gb ram upgrade, chucked on an nLited winXp. Now I've got a little utility machine that's/REALLY/ tiny and cute, and didn't cost the earth. Keeping it light, in both weight and bootup times means it's a great companion to my main dev laptop (Dell M something) that takes an age till it's usuable with all the dev tools/sql servers it loads up. It barely takes up anymore room in my laptop bag, so if I need to check something quick, that comes out, boots in 30 seconds and is good to go on a wireless connection rather than dragging out my main machine. I love it. Screen is a/bit/ of a pain, and just a smidgeon more screen space would have been great, but it works for what it does. Tempted to get a white one for the kitchen area, just to have vids playing whilst at the breakfast bar, music playing whilst cooking, or whatever. 9.5/10
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If this makes it easier to get Coco back on TV, I'm all for it.
It'd be pure comedy gold to have Conan turn up as the Cable representative to tear down the Peacock.
If this is using Flash to display the images on the client, does this mean we'll be able to play PC games on Flash using Phones/Tablets/mini-netbooks with hardware decoding?
I've seen a demo of Everquest running on an Android phone, just remoting the display and sending key presses back to the game running on the decent gaming rig. It was actually usable for alot of game playing.
This has some amazing potential, as long as the latency isn't too bad. I can see this working great for alot of games that are out there now. Just FPS'like games I can see there being issues.
So.. interpreted is not ok atm, but might be ok next week.
Cross compiled flash is not ok now, but might be ok if server side translated to be displayed.
Showing too much on a desktop picture frame still gets your app removed.
Flash (that'd allow more apps to run, just no totalitarian control of the app market) will never be allowed.
Gotcha.
Stuff even attempting to develop on this platform.
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Bah, was looking forward to this. For me, that form factor is fantastic. /really/ force you to use it's Landscape mode, not Portrait. It makes their UI look better I supposed, but seems odd you don't get the option when it's still more phonelike than tablet. That feels...artificial?
But 1.6 and a Dell 'experience' UI? Oh dear Dell.
I'm not a fan of the soft-touch buttons either, prefer to have solid buttons to press for home/back. They're very fiddly on the NexusOne, the HTC Desire's button configuration is alot better.
And the power button on the top near the camera? Hmm... Odd choice. Should be more obvious (unless you can configure the Camera button to power up!)
In the breakdowns of the hardware, not seen where the Notification light is, that's odd (don't mind no trackball, I can't recall where I've used it).
To try and get it to fit the tablet mode, it seems to want to
I really did want one, but I'll wait and see how long it takes to get 2.2, if it's longer than 3 months, I think I'll pass for now and wait for other solutions as I don't want to be beholden to Dell for other vital upgrade
Dell /really/ needed to deploy standard Android 2.2 with this.
Now they're just laughing at us.
I wonder if these changes were due to unexpected demand, and them knowing there's a larger amount of people who'll be happy to be gouged.
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I'm still confused though, wouldn't Android + Chrome browser work just as well, if not better? And Android + browsers are out now, working.
As is, when they do eventually bring out a Chrome tablet and it doesn't have access to all the Android marketplace apps, just web, why would someone choose that over an Android tablet + web + apps? Just seems an odd thing.
The article referenced originally does make a fair point, we're about to be flooded with cheap (and very inferior) Android Tablets shortly, it might hurt the overall platform.
Again, if they had a Tegra powered, 1GB ram, 8ish inch Android tablet running 2.2 to get Flash/existing apps, 3g, I'd be all over it.
All these demo unit's/available in China, I just want one now!
2.2 minimum, tegra would be nice, standard usb socket to charge (as well as another one to drop in cradle for hdmi output I guess), bluetooth keyboard support as standard so I can use a keyboard with it if I want to, or just lug around without and use the onscreen one if I have to.
Done.
I've got a credit card warmed up and ready to use for something like that. Why all this 1.5/1.6 stuff?
Seems to be true that there's alot of Android Tablets inc, heck, they were showing dozens of them off before Apple even admitted they had a tablet
I do have some fears.
It appears if you've got a non-Google phone, updates are looking risky. As much as the new Dell tablets ones look neat, if Google(htc) brought their own out, I'd probably go for that with a better expectation that it'll be supported for later updates.
Whats the Chome Tablet for? Seems odd for them to fracture their own market when Android seems great and well suited for a tablet. Can the Chrome browser just be chucked on an existing Android platform to give people more choice?
But yeah, if the Dell tablets were going on sale tomorrow at Best Buy, I'd be typing this out on my G1 camped outside.
It's a bunch of phones.
You press buttons, make calls with them to other people. Thank goodness that's not a patentable idea or we'd all be shafted.
The tweaks on how to make these calls really seem.... unimportant apart to the lawyers.
Mmm, Bacon.
Sounds very much like iButton stiff using RFID.
Nothing new about Apple patenting existing apps I guess. Though as mentioned, it's not mainstream, having an iphone adapter in the car to play music, and using that same phone to open the door makes sense.
Excellent description, helps explain it well.
Had this happen myself looking at a dell netbook. I asked why one was more expensive than the other as it looked like a similiar spec. They said they'd optimised it. I asked what needed to be optimised on a stock xp install (thinking drivers perhaps updated, nothing that a windows update wouldn't fix) and was then shown task-manager and told to look at all the things running. I asked 'which service can you disable in that list that isn't needed and will make the system run faster?' and she didn't know.
I got the 'unoptimised' version, and noticed it had been filled with crapware and dell/bestbuy links that aren't standard. So, yeah, basically, you're paying them to remove the stuff that THEY've already added.
What a ripoff.
Can anyone claim the reward? or do we have to be in China?
I'm sure I could rummage around my bookmarks for a few choice sites.
Pretty soon, we'll be buying phones with data plans and the voice plan will be optional (if needed at all).
All we need is Google to get their phones coming with a VOIP client as standard. Big unique selling point that no matter what network, or if you're not even on a network but just have wireless at home/work/in car/train/plane, you can make/receive calls.
Using phone numbers and keeping a local phonebook of addresses makes as much sense as using IP numbers in a browser to get to a website. Google providing their DNS to allow new services to be added like this was another one of the steps needed to be done. Google Voice is a stopgap, their newly acquisitioned VOIP stuff is the next step.
Shortly, it'll be standard to call someone using an email address and the data-networks will route as needed to their phone/home/business.
When you have to have the holy 2.5'inity in one toon.
Yeah, the voice parts will be the fall back, not the primary function that they are now.
So...
Google voice first for voice. Last week Gizmo5 for voip and now rolling out their own DNS?
Looks like all the infrastructure pieces are in place for the mass change of how cell phones are going to work.
For years I've wondered why we still have phone numbers. With address books stored on the phones to map names (hosts) to phone numbers (ip's).
With all the phones these days having decent data connections as standard, looks like we're going to get a central way of handling this.
So my phone contact will be 'Fred@Domain.com' If I send an email with that address, it gets sent to their mail. If I make a call to that address, does the DNS lookup, finds out their phone number (that we can re-configure our end to handle calling home phone or cell phone, and with location based rules on an android phone, you'd be able to automate it as you left your house, it lets the phone DNS know to call the cell phone, then as you get to your desk location, remap to office phone for non-personal calls). All possible as standard.
We're not going to get phone and choose to have a dataplan, we're going to have phones + dataplans and that's it.
telcoms industry HAVE to know this surely?
(personal wish, as calls are made to someone, there's a quick lookup for capabilities of the device you're calling, then popup the choices to make normal call, send a text, allow the webcam to work, or most importantly, present a URL to an MP3 that's YOUR ringtone, so you can set up a theme tune and as you call people, they hear your tune (as long as they've not turned that off))
It was kinda obvious to me that this was a scam when they told me my warranty for the car was due to expire soon.
I don't have a car.
I recall this in the UK about, uhm, 5-6ish years ago. 2570 on the phone I think it was (middle numbers), hold the phone up in the club and it'd then break the call after a few moments. Then, you'd get the text message back listing what it was. 50p to id a song. THEN, you could log into the website with your mobile number and download the song you'd ID'd for a cost. Very clever.
No more pirate/vampire/werewolf invitations, please...
Facebook started off a great site, fast, clean design, it's now incredibly slow and hard todo anything, whereas myspace actually is improving.
Still waiting for a mybook, or facespace to integrate the messaging.
Honestly? it's instantly recognisable as NiN, the sounds of heavy industry with pumps and electric guitars screeching kinda give it away as NiN. If Barry could make music as discordant and beautiful as this, he'd have an all new type of fan base at his shows rather then the middle aged women he gets atm.
Barry Manilow goths, that'd be interesting to see.
That's the wonder of NiN I've found, he'll try his hand at a fair few things, but always keeps that Discordant NiN sound throughout.
My friends and crazy amount of time in my youth were spent playing theses games. We did all sorts of systems, but it was AD&D that was the main campaign we played variations of for years.
If it wasn't for EQ, we'd all probably STILL be sat around a table on tuesday nights with character sheets in front of us.
Fare thee well sir in whichever higher plane you eventually end up.
Spent 40 bucks on a 2gb ram upgrade, chucked on an nLited winXp. Now I've got a little utility machine that's /REALLY/ tiny and cute, and didn't cost the earth. /bit/ of a pain, and just a smidgeon more screen space would have been great, but it works for what it does.
Keeping it light, in both weight and bootup times means it's a great companion to my main dev laptop (Dell M something) that takes an age till it's usuable with all the dev tools/sql servers it loads up. It barely takes up anymore room in my laptop bag, so if I need to check something quick, that comes out, boots in 30 seconds and is good to go on a wireless connection rather than dragging out my main machine.
I love it. Screen is a
Tempted to get a white one for the kitchen area, just to have vids playing whilst at the breakfast bar, music playing whilst cooking, or whatever.
9.5/10