I may be old fashioned, but doesn't that seem a bit outlandish? I mean, I know, people would have said that about gigabytes in the days of yore, but still. When do we reach the fundamental limit of information density per unit space? Anyone with knowledge on this care to comment?
Has anyone in this discussion worked in enough companies to make these generalizations? I feel like people are just repeating eachother's talking points.
If this comes out at $599, I'm going to upgrade my graphics card and buy a Wii before I even think about a playstation 3. This is ridiculously expensive compared to anything I can readily think of, except maybe an iPod, and that's not exactly a favorable comparison.
Encrypted traffic looks entirely like random bits, which as you say, is quite a bit different from cleartext traffic. However, anything that is highly compressed also statistically looks like random bits. I'd imagine that there are enough movies, music, and zip files passed around that passively listening to a small percentage of your traffic shouldn't be enough to incriminate you.
But suppose the technology was something that we were unable to counter? The danger of it falling into the wrong hands might be greater than the benefit of deploying it.
That said, I think this is 100% grade A bullshit, but I don't think the idea of something being too powerful to even show to the enemy is completely implausible.
There aren't too many people around that still remember the 1918 pandemic, but if you have records of your relatives that were alive at the time, odds are at least one of them died of the flu.
When I first clicked on the article, I couldn't even figure out immediately where the rest of it was. It was like 90% crap, a tiny bit of text, and a tiny more link that disappeared amidst all of the crap.
For instance, the drinking water in most parts of the US are undrinkable, and contains various metals.
I don't know where you heard this, but I have never heard of a water system in the US that produced unpotable water. Just about the only metal you will find in water in some places is iron, which while making it taste not so hot, isn't dangerous at all. And that's only to be found if you are far from any urban area.
Amazon.com was originally going to be called Cadabra as in abra cadabra, but someone thought it sounded too close to cadaver and would have a negative connotation. They changed the name. I wasn't suggesting that people are seriously going to be consciously associating the console with the various meanings of wee, but subconsciously the connotation carries over.
The XBox360 isn't a success until they turn a profit from it. Period. The first XBox was their mindshare gaining "beachhead." If this one doesn't make any money either, it's a failure.
So, now, because of this "bad" name, your GF now has more exposure to gaming consoles. Indeed, if the console was not named Wii, the odds are that she would not have had any exposure to it.
Not true. I showed her the video of the controllers long before the new name was announced.
If she thought it was a bad name you told her about it wrong. I told my girlfriend that it was named Wii - and quickly added "as in wheeeeee!" --- she thought the name was awesome.
Did you tell her the spelling? If the name had an h before the two is I'd agree with you. It definitely doesn't make me think of whee.
Regardless of whether you are consciously thinking about the other meanings for the word, their connotation is still going to stick with you when you say it. Imagine for instance if the machine was called corpse or cadaver. Your initial reaction is going to be bad regardless of whether you mentally distinguish the game system from an actual dead body. That's the type of feeling that most of us are getting with this name. We know that the system isn't urine, or a penis, but the connotation of those things still arises when we hear the name.
I was trying to think of where I had heard this used, and the only thing I could come up with was when I was in the locker room at scout camp when I was younger getting ready to go swimming. These two little kids were running around naked, and one of them had curled his towel into a rat-tail, and was using it to try to whack the other kid's penis. As he was doing this, he was shouting "SPANK THE WEEWEE! SPANK THE WEEWEE!"
My girlfriend's only exposure to console gaming was watching her brother play nintendo when she was younger. I showed her to promotional video of the new controller, and she thought it looked like a lot of fun. I told her about the new name for the system, and even she thought it was a really really bad name.
Seriously, how on earth could they have picked something that is a homonym for a word that means either diminutive, penis, or urine and thought it was a good idea?
I'm amazed at how well they were able to mimic Stephen Colbert with that computer animation! Forget gollum, that clearly deserves a technical oscar. And Bush, man oh man, he wasn't on screen long, but that was an incredible likeness. The crowd stuff was a little lame though. They didn't laugh enough to be realistic. Were it not for that, and the fact that this is such an unbelievable video from such a biased source, I might have even believed it actually happened!
Answer me that question once you go to a drugstore on Sunday morning, and you're tying to get rid of that hangover before doing your Sunday church appearance. With a splitting headache, then go to the pain relief isle, but B4Y3R aspirin, that looks just like BAYER aspirin minus the chemicals that relieve pain. But, you forgive the company because its now owned by Google and they owe it to their stockholders to put such products on the shelf.
Allow me to fix your analogy. The company printing the labels on the fraudulent bottles is now owned by Google. Saying that they are culpable in all of this seems like quite a bit of a stretch.
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I may be old fashioned, but doesn't that seem a bit outlandish? I mean, I know, people would have said that about gigabytes in the days of yore, but still. When do we reach the fundamental limit of information density per unit space? Anyone with knowledge on this care to comment?
Has anyone in this discussion worked in enough companies to make these generalizations? I feel like people are just repeating eachother's talking points.
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Wiiiiiiiiii!!!
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In this post-joke age of the Wii name, I gotta admit, it sure can be fun to say.
(Unfortunately, slashdot lameness filter dislikes more than 10 consecutive is.)
His point was legitimate and well stated.
If this comes out at $599, I'm going to upgrade my graphics card and buy a Wii before I even think about a playstation 3. This is ridiculously expensive compared to anything I can readily think of, except maybe an iPod, and that's not exactly a favorable comparison.
Jack thompson makes it seem like a small amount of censorship of video games is a moderate position. This is dangerous.
Encrypted traffic looks entirely like random bits, which as you say, is quite a bit different from cleartext traffic. However, anything that is highly compressed also statistically looks like random bits. I'd imagine that there are enough movies, music, and zip files passed around that passively listening to a small percentage of your traffic shouldn't be enough to incriminate you.
But suppose the technology was something that we were unable to counter? The danger of it falling into the wrong hands might be greater than the benefit of deploying it.
That said, I think this is 100% grade A bullshit, but I don't think the idea of something being too powerful to even show to the enemy is completely implausible.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maus_(comics)
And I think it deserved it.
There aren't too many people around that still remember the 1918 pandemic, but if you have records of your relatives that were alive at the time, odds are at least one of them died of the flu.
When I first clicked on the article, I couldn't even figure out immediately where the rest of it was. It was like 90% crap, a tiny bit of text, and a tiny more link that disappeared amidst all of the crap.
For instance, the drinking water in most parts of the US are undrinkable, and contains various metals.
I don't know where you heard this, but I have never heard of a water system in the US that produced unpotable water. Just about the only metal you will find in water in some places is iron, which while making it taste not so hot, isn't dangerous at all. And that's only to be found if you are far from any urban area.
Amazon.com was originally going to be called Cadabra as in abra cadabra, but someone thought it sounded too close to cadaver and would have a negative connotation. They changed the name. I wasn't suggesting that people are seriously going to be consciously associating the console with the various meanings of wee, but subconsciously the connotation carries over.
The XBox360 isn't a success until they turn a profit from it. Period. The first XBox was their mindshare gaining "beachhead." If this one doesn't make any money either, it's a failure.
So, now, because of this "bad" name, your GF now has more exposure to gaming consoles. Indeed, if the console was not named Wii, the odds are that she would not have had any exposure to it.
Not true. I showed her the video of the controllers long before the new name was announced.
If she thought it was a bad name you told her about it wrong. I told my girlfriend that it was named Wii - and quickly added "as in wheeeeee!" --- she thought the name was awesome.
Did you tell her the spelling? If the name had an h before the two is I'd agree with you. It definitely doesn't make me think of whee.
If they had put an h before the two is, I'd think it was a pretty cool name.
Regardless of whether you are consciously thinking about the other meanings for the word, their connotation is still going to stick with you when you say it. Imagine for instance if the machine was called corpse or cadaver. Your initial reaction is going to be bad regardless of whether you mentally distinguish the game system from an actual dead body. That's the type of feeling that most of us are getting with this name. We know that the system isn't urine, or a penis, but the connotation of those things still arises when we hear the name.
Wii is just really awkward to say.
Diminutive and urine yes, but penis?
I was trying to think of where I had heard this used, and the only thing I could come up with was when I was in the locker room at scout camp when I was younger getting ready to go swimming. These two little kids were running around naked, and one of them had curled his towel into a rat-tail, and was using it to try to whack the other kid's penis. As he was doing this, he was shouting "SPANK THE WEEWEE! SPANK THE WEEWEE!"
So ya, it may just be me.
My girlfriend's only exposure to console gaming was watching her brother play nintendo when she was younger. I showed her to promotional video of the new controller, and she thought it looked like a lot of fun. I told her about the new name for the system, and even she thought it was a really really bad name.
Seriously, how on earth could they have picked something that is a homonym for a word that means either diminutive, penis, or urine and thought it was a good idea?
When you get done patting yourself on the back for your cleverness, perhaps you'll scan the commentary that accompanies the video from this source.
The only thing I can find in the description of the video on that site that deviates from simple factual reporting is this: "Faux press briefing"
Are you objecting to the prior reputation of this site, or the actual article text?
Am I correct in thinking that C-span is still copyrighted video?
Oh, there's a nice unbiased source.
I'm amazed at how well they were able to mimic Stephen Colbert with that computer animation! Forget gollum, that clearly deserves a technical oscar. And Bush, man oh man, he wasn't on screen long, but that was an incredible likeness. The crowd stuff was a little lame though. They didn't laugh enough to be realistic. Were it not for that, and the fact that this is such an unbelievable video from such a biased source, I might have even believed it actually happened!
They are just serving them ads.
Answer me that question once you go to a drugstore on Sunday morning, and you're tying to get rid of that hangover before doing your Sunday church appearance. With a splitting headache, then go to the pain relief isle, but B4Y3R aspirin, that looks just like BAYER aspirin minus the chemicals that relieve pain. But, you forgive the company because its now owned by Google and they owe it to their stockholders to put such products on the shelf.
Allow me to fix your analogy. The company printing the labels on the fraudulent bottles is now owned by Google. Saying that they are culpable in all of this seems like quite a bit of a stretch.