How the hell can they expect people to take them seriously on the shipping price of a unit when they say how much it is going to cost _before_ they have even chosen the CPU.
The problem here is that even if SVG is not intended to fill the niche of flash, It has been presented as such by many many people.
The original poster was presenting an opinion that is hardly rare. I have encountered a fair few open source zealots that refuse to run flash and claim that if you need that functionality, use gnash(built without mp3 support of course) or SVG. Both of which are far from ideal.
This does present a real problem. There is very little drive for an open spec alternative to flash. I have done some work in this area, and you would not believe the number of times I've heard "Just use SVG"
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If you look at some of the things people are making with mircocontrollers, you can see that something Apple II level is quite achievable.
Getting under $12 is difficult for one-offs but if you make a huge number it is easier. For example one Parallax Propeller if $12.99 but if you buy 5000 it's $7.53 (leaving $4.47 if you are going for a $12 box). The AVR has less power than the prop but still way more than an Apple II. if you directly drive a video signal from the processor, it costs you quite a bit.
I've seen sources for sub-$5 keyboards, sticking a microcrontroller inside the keyboard gets you a computer quite easily. At that sort of level the bigger cost is just getting cables and power supply.
In a way, they should be using the zx-80 as a guide. A bare bones design like that with a decent micro ath the heart would be fairly usable.
Interestingly, My psychiatrist advised me to do quite the opposite. I'm somewhat of an unusual case (which is indeed why I need the psychiatrist). His suggestion was to have multiple stimulation sources at hand so I can readily switch from one to the other rather than drift away into my own imagination.
I actually laughed when he suggested this,I had gone a long way towards that myself simply by trying to satisfy my desire for more information at hand. I have a three monitor system(each running a different OS, one keyboard/mouse via synergy). 109 tabs(maybe 20% wikipedia) in the web browsers and I'm in 13 irc channels.
From my perspective the multitasking certainly isn't detrimental to learning. Work on the other hand...
It is fair to compare them if it is the primary display system that users get. Their use, not their design is the factor here.
Having said that, I spent all yesterday working on my desktop system via a laptop over wi-fi nx.
You seem to be implying that the OSX display is X. OSX supports X11 but does not use it for it's own native stuff.
From a programmer standpoint I don't much like X. I hate having to work though many layers of libraries to do things. The windows GDI lets you draw to memory bitmaps that you create. The Seperate memory spaces of user and X make things like that a pain in X.
Things have vastly improved on the X side though. Cairo, xcb and the various extensions make things possible. I would still like something low-ish level yet nice. Somewhere between xlib and gtk in level, that I could program to without adding a lot of application weight
That's pretty cool. I had thought thought the pattern myself, but not at this level of detail.
I've actually advised (or drunkenly rambled (I forget which)) someone to invest in Apple riding some of the ups and downs listed here. The speculation,announcement,delays and class action lawsuit do seem to be predictable modifiers of share price.
Overall I only really believe in two modes of making money off shares. Long term investment in a solid company, or betting that people are stupid.
Sony ditching the PS2 is a mistake, Dropping support altogether hurts consumers and they will remember that when they buy the next generation. Why buy a PS3 if sony Screwed you on the PS2 by dropping support?
Sony should not drop support for the PS2 They should shift its profile.
Direct Developers away from attempting realistic 3d Views. It can't compete with the new generation and shouldn't try.
On the other hand there is a wealth of game opportunities for Stylized views, 2d games, or even game styles that don't need high framerates.
Let developers go more experimental, add something new in gameplay, not in bells and whistles.
There may be good reasons for sleep, but it isn't necessarily the case that those needs cannot be met by other means.
For the most part people think that sleep must be needed because people feel sleepy. Artificially creating a disconnect between sleepiness and the need for sleep means that you may not be able to use one as a guide to the other. It is very much like the free will arguments. The strongest argument for free will is that people feel they have it but there are experiments to show the feeling is an illusion.
The implications are
Just because you are not sleepy doesn't mean you don't need sleep. but also If you are sleepy you may not actually need sleep.
You need a totally separate assessment.
Keep people on this stuff for a month and you should get some good clues on how to assess it.
Not to mention that unless the laser was tripod mounted or something any contact with a single point would be incredibly fleeting. You try holding a laser dot dot on a point by hand at 500 feet (or 150 meters in real distance).
The damage done will indeed take time to fix. You think it will happen better leaving people to stew in resentment or if people could talk to each other?
If the goal of the US in Iraq is to do good for the Iraqi people then they will also be doing good for some insurgents. They are part of the people, that is just unavoidable. Anything of any use to the good people will be of use to the bad people.
Are you suggesting that we strip the Iraqi people of all resources because then the percentage of them that are insurgents would lose their resources? Of course not! Doing good for X when some X are Y necessitates doing good for some Y.
This is the second mention of civil wars as a counterargument. I actually take civil wars as a sign of how people can be distant in understanding while being close in proximity.
Of course you don't force people to participate, but people do like communicating. The Iraqi people aren't a bunch of barbarians. You give them the ability and you let people take it. Many Iraqi will want to talk simply to express grievances, but it is still taliing a n that is a place to build from.
Wow! At least I generated a lot of comment. Just responding generally to you here, there's a lot of overlapping stuff in a lot of posts.
I'm surprised at the assumption from so many that this was about teaching the Iraqis to 'Think Right'. It's about understanding. Just as much needs to be done on both sides.
Those huge differences built the barrier that my idea was wanting to break down with this thing. I think talking really can go a long way.
As for the language barrier. before bablefish, people did things like ask someone who knew, or heaven forbid, tried learning themselves.
They won't be here for Christmas though will they? Nevertheless, there's one on order for my daughter. The magnifier looks good too, A portable USB version like that would be nice, could be used with the XO to wander around an look at things you find.
And what's with this nephew business. Why not for your son, or heaven forbid your daughter or niece
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That may be so for ordinary development, but the XO-2 started life as a series of bullet point features and a price tag.
They said they'd have an $85 dual touchscreen system with wi-fi.
How the hell can they expect people to take them seriously on the shipping price of a unit when they say how much it is going to cost _before_ they have even chosen the CPU.
...they use product placement as a threat.
even if it meant sacrificing margins.
I think they tried that already.
The problem here is that even if SVG is not intended to fill the niche of flash, It has been presented as such by many many people.
The original poster was presenting an opinion that is hardly rare. I have encountered a fair few open source zealots that refuse to run flash and claim that if you need that functionality, use gnash(built without mp3 support of course) or SVG. Both of which are far from ideal.
This does present a real problem. There is very little drive for an open spec alternative to flash. I have done some work in this area, and you would not believe the number of times I've heard "Just use SVG"
I have an idea. I'm working on it.
My initial idea I laid out here
Since writing that I became aware of quite a few things also exploring this area. I'm currently putting together a proof-of-concept plugin using vx32.
It should be possible to make something speedily executable on non-x86 with just a few restrictions and a bit of instruction-metadata.
Importantly. The spec is much simpler than any existing VM model so an open spec with multiple implementation methods should be quite feasible.
If you look at some of the things people are making with mircocontrollers, you can see that something Apple II level is quite achievable.
Getting under $12 is difficult for one-offs but if you make a huge number it is easier. For example one Parallax Propeller if $12.99 but if you buy 5000 it's $7.53 (leaving $4.47 if you are going for a $12 box). The AVR has less power than the prop but still way more than an Apple II. if you directly drive a video signal from the processor, it costs you quite a bit.
I've seen sources for sub-$5 keyboards, sticking a microcrontroller inside the keyboard gets you a computer quite easily. At that sort of level the bigger cost is just getting cables and power supply.
In a way, they should be using the zx-80 as a guide. A bare bones design like that with a decent micro ath the heart would be fairly usable.
there is always nostalgia at http://6502asm.com
Interestingly, My psychiatrist advised me to do quite the opposite. I'm somewhat of an unusual case (which is indeed why I need the psychiatrist). His suggestion was to have multiple stimulation sources at hand so I can readily switch from one to the other rather than drift away into my own imagination.
I actually laughed when he suggested this,I had gone a long way towards that myself simply by trying to satisfy my desire for more information at hand. I have a three monitor system(each running a different OS, one keyboard/mouse via synergy). 109 tabs(maybe 20% wikipedia) in the web browsers and I'm in 13 irc channels.
From my perspective the multitasking certainly isn't detrimental to learning. Work on the other hand...
It is fair to compare them if it is the primary display system that users get. Their use, not their design is the factor here.
Having said that, I spent all yesterday working on my desktop system via a laptop over wi-fi nx.
You seem to be implying that the OSX display is X. OSX supports X11 but does not use it for it's own native stuff.
From a programmer standpoint I don't much like X. I hate having to work though many layers of libraries to do things. The windows GDI lets you draw to memory bitmaps that you create. The Seperate memory spaces of user and X make things like that a pain in X.
Things have vastly improved on the X side though. Cairo, xcb and the various extensions make things possible. I would still like something low-ish level yet nice. Somewhere between xlib and gtk in level, that I could program to without adding a lot of application weight
Two things. The XO has a led indicating when the camera is operational.
The camera doesn't work if you put a sticker over it.
That's pretty cool. I had thought thought the pattern myself, but not at this level of detail.
I've actually advised (or drunkenly rambled (I forget which)) someone to invest in Apple riding some of the ups and downs listed here. The speculation,announcement,delays and class action lawsuit do seem to be predictable modifiers of share price.
Overall I only really believe in two modes of making money off shares. Long term investment in a solid company, or betting that people are stupid.
I always considered that to be a materials science problem.
If what you have is too expensive to maintain then you need a better design.
Sony ditching the PS2 is a mistake, Dropping support altogether hurts consumers and they will remember that when they buy the next generation. Why buy a PS3 if sony Screwed you on the PS2 by dropping support?
Sony should not drop support for the PS2 They should shift its profile.
Direct Developers away from attempting realistic 3d Views. It can't compete with the new generation and shouldn't try.
On the other hand there is a wealth of game opportunities for Stylized views, 2d games, or even game styles that don't need high framerates.
Let developers go more experimental, add something new in gameplay, not in bells and whistles.
There may be good reasons for sleep, but it isn't necessarily the case that those needs cannot be met by other means.
For the most part people think that sleep must be needed because people feel sleepy. Artificially creating a disconnect between sleepiness and the need for sleep means that you may not be able to use one as a guide to the other. It is very much like the free will arguments. The strongest argument for free will is that people feel they have it but there are experiments to show the feeling is an illusion.
The implications are
Just because you are not sleepy doesn't mean you don't need sleep.
but also
If you are sleepy you may not actually need sleep.
You need a totally separate assessment.
Keep people on this stuff for a month and you should get some good clues on how to assess it.
Thank you for a subtle version of the inevitable joke.
If Nintendo hired him they would patent anything he creates.
How about people just send him some money so he'll keep doing what he's doing and make it free?
Not to mention that unless the laser was tripod mounted or something any contact with a single point would be incredibly fleeting. You try holding a laser dot dot on a point by hand at 500 feet (or 150 meters in real distance).
Could happen, but the chances would be slim.
The damage done will indeed take time to fix. You think it will happen better leaving people to stew in resentment or if people could talk to each other?
If the goal of the US in Iraq is to do good for the Iraqi people then they will also be doing good for some insurgents. They are part of the people, that is just unavoidable. Anything of any use to the good people will be of use to the bad people.
Are you suggesting that we strip the Iraqi people of all resources because then the percentage of them that are insurgents would lose their resources? Of course not! Doing good for X when some X are Y necessitates doing good for some Y.
This is the second mention of civil wars as a counterargument. I actually take civil wars as a sign of how people can be distant in understanding while being close in proximity.
Of course you don't force people to participate, but people do like communicating. The Iraqi people aren't a bunch of barbarians. You give them the ability and you let people take it. Many Iraqi will want to talk simply to express grievances, but it is still taliing a n that is a place to build from.
Wow! At least I generated a lot of comment. Just responding generally to you here, there's a lot of overlapping stuff in a lot of posts.
I'm surprised at the assumption from so many that this was about teaching the Iraqis to 'Think Right'. It's about understanding. Just as much needs to be done on both sides.
Those huge differences built the barrier that my idea was wanting to break down with this thing. I think talking really can go a long way.
As for the language barrier. before bablefish, people did things like ask someone who knew, or heaven forbid, tried learning themselves.
Still lots more to read here.
Tech may not have lost it but I bet it could win it.
Here's a crazy idea of mine that the govt would never consider.
How many people in Iraq (27 million and falling)?
There's that OLPC XO thing. Buy one for evreryone, That's a ridiculous amount of money but not as ridiculous as the amount they've already spent.
Set up some good international networking (actually I think they have that part already). The mesh will take care of the local.
Run a campaign in the US that it is duty of every American to talk to an Iraqi, get to know them let them get to know you.
"do you support the war? Talk to the Iraqis and help win it"
"against the war? Talk to the Iraqis and help end it"
There'd have to be support to cover the language barrier, but where there's a will, there's a way*.
Yep it's a crazy idea, but there's this bit in the back of my mind that says it's hard to fight a war against people you know.
* I guess that was the problem from the start, there was never really a will.
now politely ignore my sig just this once.
They won't be here for Christmas though will they? Nevertheless, there's one on order for my daughter. The magnifier looks good too, A portable USB version like that would be nice, could be used with the XO to wander around an look at things you find.
And what's with this nephew business. Why not for your son, or heaven forbid your daughter or niece
I had this idea yesterday (alcohol may have been involved).
You could take the genes from geckos/skinks that makes their tails fall off when they are frightened and put it into grass.
Then you could have a lawn that you could mow by going outside and shouting Bang!.