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>Since people are not saved by their good works, a baby can be saved like anyone else.
Aren't Christians saved by believing in Jesus? If so, how can a baby be saved since a baby can't understand the concept of Jesus?
Oh wow you got me, I never realized that... you've convinced me I am now an atheist... oh wait you're not so smart. Did you bother to do any critical thinking yourself
I think you mean "translating" not "critical thinking". He went to an actual bible looking for people said to be "perfect" or "rightous", and came back with verse numbers and everything. And you come back with you're better at hebrew translation than whoever translated the bible? Not even that his bible has a faulty translation, this bible has a good one, that his bible has a faulty translation, so read mine instead? If you're so good at hebrew, you make an english translated bible.
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Experimentation on sentient beings is prima facie evidence of the complete absence of respect for a higher power. It is a demonstration of what happens without religion, my friends.
No it's not. I'm closer to atheism than anything, and I don't even believe animal experimentation is ok. Many of the people I know are atheists and they'ld never believe it's ok to experiement on sentient beings.
Morals do not come from religion. Values do not come from religion. Accept that. Move on.
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Since you rely on the Bible, a notoriously manipulated and rewritten document, obviously you have no fucking clue.
Uh, what are Christians supposed to rely on, if not the Bible?
Even complaining that the Jews of the day were not "Christians" shows your pathetic lack of comprehension of basic facts from biblical study and archeology.
If they were Jews, then they wouldn't Christians, right? If they were, they'ld be called Christians, right? So they were Jews, not Christians then.
I think you're wrong about the whole 'second place' thing
Grey Ninja was talking worldwide. In America, Xbox is pulling past Gamecube, but in Japan, well last I heard the PS1 was beating the Xbox. So worldwide Gamecube > XBox.
Those are exactly the woman pretending to be a man you were speaking earlier of:D.
Unrepentant Harlequin was speaking earlier. Hi, I'm Elley. Also, I was talking about men. Real life men. Not women. =)
~5000 != several million. Even assuming that you know all of them enough to know for sure what gender they are, dispite Unrepentant Harlequin's suspision that there could be women who haven't brought up their gender for simplicity, you don't know all gamers. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if your community isn't that attractive to women gamers. You mentioned earlier that it's very tight-knit, and a tight-knit boys' club can be intimidating to a woman, especially if the men don't think women should be there. Your sample is self-selective, and not anywhere near the randomness needed to be informative for a multi-national industry.
there is a large chunk of the population that is simply never going to be interested in video games.
Movies and books didn't give up on people who didn't seem to like them. They just realized that people like different types of movies and books, so they made different types for different people.
Woman are good at Harvest Moon because evolution made them good at.. milking cows and taking care of the children.;)
This is why everyone I know who plays Harvest Moon is male, right?:)
And you do understand that the reason there's not many women in those things you list (military, Olympics, etc) is that for a long time they weren't allowed? When I was in high school, just a few years ago, girls were not allowed to play football in gym class. The boys would play, and the girls would go to a separate room and learn dance. Is it surprising that girls aren't as good at something they aren't taught?
Those were my personal experiences with girls in a rather big game community that I had pleasure to gather arround my forum.
Taking surveys of people you know never works. Based on the people I know (in forums and real life), all women play games. Unless you know millions of people, your experiences are just as useless as mine when talking about large numbers of people.
36 isn't fat, and it's not just the measurement across the back, it's across the whole torso under the breasts.
Just for comparison, Playboy's Miss July is a 34 (I'm full of fun factiods). Two inches larger than a playboy model is, by definition, not fat.
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I think the whole women gamers-women designers is just a big catch-22. Women won't play games (as the theory goes) until women design games, and women won't design games until they play games enough to care.
So obviously the solution is to break out of this catch-22. Since obviously women play games that aren't designed by women, game company just have to figure out what they like about the games. They don't have to hire women to develop if that's problematic, they just need to ask women what they like. Find out who the girl gamers are (advertising) and send them surveys and such asking them what they like about the game and why (I'm trying to do my part; I'm the only one I know that sends out those game regestration cards. Basically I'm saying "Look Sega, a girl bought your game!"). Another option is hiring girls as testers. Not for bugs, but to see what they think of games. Expensive, but less expensive than hiring random girls as developers irreguardless of experience, and presumably the money will be made back when the other 50% of the population starts buying games.
Now why is it important for girls to have an input on games? Why can't they just play good games made by guys? Well, at least for me, I'm so sick of having to play a guy who saves a girl in every video game (I like RPG and action/adventure games). Despite the fact that I'm a big time Final Fantasy fan, I'm probably not going to buy FF12 because I'm sick of the same old concept. I love Zelda, and Four Swords(GC) is the best multiplayer game I've ever played, but the storyline just grates. You have to save about 10 girls in this game, however, some of these girls seem even more powerful than Link, yet they can't save any other girls on their own. One of the girls even brings this up (after she blows up about 30 enemies by clapping) and then brushes it aside by talking about the "tradition" for young men to save maidens. Now obviously you can't have someone follow you around blowing up monsters through the rest of the game, but then why create a charator that could? Or at least give her a reason not to other than that's she's a girl.
Ok, that was a bit ranty. Basically, I'm saying girls would like games more if the girls in games won't damsels in distress (and wearing clothes).
Well, if MS wants to be successful, I'ld say they should look at Sony and Nintendo rather than Sega. I don't think it's really useful to include companies that released their systems sporatically and then died in a average life of consoles equation. Sure, it sounds like it would be good to include every system ever, but then you get data that really doesn't mean anything because its been skewed by the 20 year Atari and the 6-month 32X.
There's a significant difference between a stylus and a mouse. If there wasn't and they were the same thing, than Nintendo would've had a player using the stylus to control Metroid DS, not the pad.
If this person was truly stupid enough to not find out that he needed a special license beforehand, than anybody remotely close to him, anybody who has an ounce of compassion for him, should force him to close up immediately.
He can't close up. He has to prepay to use CS for a year or else get sued. That's what people don't like about this. If it was just a cease-and-desist letter, no one would care. But it's not.
Though he may go out of business anyways, if he can't pay up within the next 10 (well, now 8) days. Can't imagine a little game center would survive long being sued by Valve.
I think the problem is less how many people are buying games or not, and more that microsoft spends a lot of money on XBoxLive, advertising, and overly generous retail rewards programs (they give away free games to game store employees and xboxs to game store managers. Sony and Nintendo don't.). I'm assuming they're hoping that if they spend alot now, they'll be more popular later. I don't know if this is working or not.
When PC's became more affordable, consoles died out.
Uh, consoles never died out. I'ld argue that they're more popular now than they've ever been. That's why MS joined the console market.
I don't think the pricing scheme for MMORPGs is that out of line. $10-$15 a month isn't bad, since they're maintaining the servers to make sure the game runs all the time. Also, a good MMORPG will release free content for download, like EQ used to do (Paineel, the Warrens, etc). $30 for an expansion isn't bad either, assuming the expansion is worth it. The Kunark expansion had an entirely new continant, with a new playable race, new items and weapons, and zones and content for every level. $50 for a game that you have to pay monthly for is a little mean, but for a game that you could spend years on, it's not too bad. With other video games, you're lucky if you're still playing them at the end of the month, and they cost the same.
The real problem is that the expansions aren't doing enough to satify the players. I'm sure people who still play can explain better than me why the new ones suck, but it seems that the new ones are small, buggy, and only for high level players. They also seem to be released every six months, which seems a little extreme to me, and adds to the impression that SOE only cares about money, and not the game.
I really wish the makers of EQ cared as much as the players do. I used to love it. But it stopped being fun, and from what I can tell, it's gotten even worse since I left.
Parents have no idea wtf an 'M' rating means, and the ESRB either can, or chooses to, do nothing against retailers who don't restrict the sales of 'M' titles to minors. Hell, the ESRB doesn't even require retailers to post an education poster that breaks down game ratings for consumers the way the MPAA still does.
I don't know why people still don't understand what "Mature" means. Game stores have posters, pamphlets, and employees who know exactly how the rating system works. The ESRB doesn't do anything against stores that sale games to minors because it can't. Though mostly, parents buy the game for their kids because they don't care enough about the ratings rather than the store clerk selling it to the kid.
If the ESRB is unwilling to even try to educate consumers, or enforce its policies upon retailers - at the very least they could lift the MPAA's system wholesale, replace 'M' with 'R', and let us move on with life.
They can't. The MPAA has a copyright on the ratings. Besides, the ESRB ratings are more elaborate and specific.
What the ESRB should do, is take a nod from satellite and cable content ratings, and simply spell out all the themes in question. If the game has cartoon violence, say so on the box. If the game has graphic realistic violence, say so on the box. If the game has brief nudity, say so on the box. If the game has sexual themes, say so on the box. If the game deals with substance abuse, say so on the box
They do. Go in a video game store and look at the boxes. The labels are very easy to read.
Every post I ever see about game ratings tell the ESRB to either do what it's already doing, or do what it can't. Please, look at the game ratings before saying what game ratings should do.
The reason people complain about our government and compare them to the nazis is not because we're anti-american, it's because our country is better than that. We should be mad about what's going on in our country today. Jose Padilla has been in jail for over a year and a half without being charged with a crime because Bush has decided that he can ignore the constitution when it comes to terrorists. If we don't speak up and get mad when our country does something wrong, we will become as bad as the nazis.
Then you are no better then the fatherless child that stole it in the first place.
I didn't make the rule, and I no longer work there. I actually never even enforced it; the only time a situation like that happened my manager took care of it. My point was just that this can happen at any used game store, not just EB.
I'll be shopping at EB because I've seen the same thing happen at the Gamestop I used to work at, but that didn't get on Action News. Despite working at Gamestop for a year, and having friends working at other game stores, I've never heard of any store that regularly holds stuff for any lenth of time. My store's policy when someone comes in saying that their stuff was stolen and traded in, we tell them to go to the police, or else we can sell their stuff back at the normal price.
My point is that this happens at all game stores, not just EB. There's no more reason to boycott EB than their is to boycott Gamestop, GameCrazy, or any other place that sells used games. If you buy a used game, you have to know that there's the chance that it was stolen.
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The expansion wasn't literally "built-in", but later 64s did come with expansions, and I assume that's what the poster was refering to.
> > What about babies >Since people are not saved by their good works, a baby can be saved like anyone else. Aren't Christians saved by believing in Jesus? If so, how can a baby be saved since a baby can't understand the concept of Jesus?
Oh wow you got me, I never realized that... you've convinced me I am now an atheist... oh wait you're not so smart. Did you bother to do any critical thinking yourself
I think you mean "translating" not "critical thinking". He went to an actual bible looking for people said to be "perfect" or "rightous", and came back with verse numbers and everything. And you come back with you're better at hebrew translation than whoever translated the bible? Not even that his bible has a faulty translation, this bible has a good one, that his bible has a faulty translation, so read mine instead? If you're so good at hebrew, you make an english translated bible.
Experimentation on sentient beings is prima facie evidence of the complete absence of respect for a higher power. It is a demonstration of what happens without religion, my friends.
No it's not. I'm closer to atheism than anything, and I don't even believe animal experimentation is ok. Many of the people I know are atheists and they'ld never believe it's ok to experiement on sentient beings.
Morals do not come from religion. Values do not come from religion. Accept that. Move on.
Since you rely on the Bible, a notoriously manipulated and rewritten document, obviously you have no fucking clue.
Uh, what are Christians supposed to rely on, if not the Bible?
Even complaining that the Jews of the day were not "Christians" shows your pathetic lack of comprehension of basic facts from biblical study and archeology.
If they were Jews, then they wouldn't Christians, right? If they were, they'ld be called Christians, right? So they were Jews, not Christians then.
Their advice is crap. I'ld rather date a women than a man who thinks dating is a "game".
I think you're wrong about the whole 'second place' thing
Grey Ninja was talking worldwide. In America, Xbox is pulling past Gamecube, but in Japan, well last I heard the PS1 was beating the Xbox. So worldwide Gamecube > XBox.
Those are exactly the woman pretending to be a man you were speaking earlier of :D.
Unrepentant Harlequin was speaking earlier. Hi, I'm Elley. Also, I was talking about men. Real life men. Not women. =)
~5000 != several million. Even assuming that you know all of them enough to know for sure what gender they are, dispite Unrepentant Harlequin's suspision that there could be women who haven't brought up their gender for simplicity, you don't know all gamers. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if your community isn't that attractive to women gamers. You mentioned earlier that it's very tight-knit, and a tight-knit boys' club can be intimidating to a woman, especially if the men don't think women should be there. Your sample is self-selective, and not anywhere near the randomness needed to be informative for a multi-national industry.
there is a large chunk of the population that is simply never going to be interested in video games.
Movies and books didn't give up on people who didn't seem to like them. They just realized that people like different types of movies and books, so they made different types for different people.
Woman are good at Harvest Moon because evolution made them good at .. milking cows and taking care of the children. ;)
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This is why everyone I know who plays Harvest Moon is male, right?
And you do understand that the reason there's not many women in those things you list (military, Olympics, etc) is that for a long time they weren't allowed? When I was in high school, just a few years ago, girls were not allowed to play football in gym class. The boys would play, and the girls would go to a separate room and learn dance. Is it surprising that girls aren't as good at something they aren't taught?
Those were my personal experiences with girls in a rather big game community that I had pleasure to gather arround my forum.
Taking surveys of people you know never works. Based on the people I know (in forums and real life), all women play games. Unless you know millions of people, your experiences are just as useless as mine when talking about large numbers of people.
36 isn't fat, and it's not just the measurement across the back, it's across the whole torso under the breasts. Just for comparison, Playboy's Miss July is a 34 (I'm full of fun factiods). Two inches larger than a playboy model is, by definition, not fat. =)
I always forget Samus is a girl. But yeah, she's cool.
I think the whole women gamers-women designers is just a big catch-22. Women won't play games (as the theory goes) until women design games, and women won't design games until they play games enough to care.
So obviously the solution is to break out of this catch-22. Since obviously women play games that aren't designed by women, game company just have to figure out what they like about the games. They don't have to hire women to develop if that's problematic, they just need to ask women what they like. Find out who the girl gamers are (advertising) and send them surveys and such asking them what they like about the game and why (I'm trying to do my part; I'm the only one I know that sends out those game regestration cards. Basically I'm saying "Look Sega, a girl bought your game!"). Another option is hiring girls as testers. Not for bugs, but to see what they think of games. Expensive, but less expensive than hiring random girls as developers irreguardless of experience, and presumably the money will be made back when the other 50% of the population starts buying games.
Now why is it important for girls to have an input on games? Why can't they just play good games made by guys? Well, at least for me, I'm so sick of having to play a guy who saves a girl in every video game (I like RPG and action/adventure games). Despite the fact that I'm a big time Final Fantasy fan, I'm probably not going to buy FF12 because I'm sick of the same old concept. I love Zelda, and Four Swords(GC) is the best multiplayer game I've ever played, but the storyline just grates. You have to save about 10 girls in this game, however, some of these girls seem even more powerful than Link, yet they can't save any other girls on their own. One of the girls even brings this up (after she blows up about 30 enemies by clapping) and then brushes it aside by talking about the "tradition" for young men to save maidens. Now obviously you can't have someone follow you around blowing up monsters through the rest of the game, but then why create a charator that could? Or at least give her a reason not to other than that's she's a girl.
Ok, that was a bit ranty. Basically, I'm saying girls would like games more if the girls in games won't damsels in distress (and wearing clothes).
Well, if MS wants to be successful, I'ld say they should look at Sony and Nintendo rather than Sega. I don't think it's really useful to include companies that released their systems sporatically and then died in a average life of consoles equation. Sure, it sounds like it would be good to include every system ever, but then you get data that really doesn't mean anything because its been skewed by the 20 year Atari and the 6-month 32X.
There's a significant difference between a stylus and a mouse. If there wasn't and they were the same thing, than Nintendo would've had a player using the stylus to control Metroid DS, not the pad.
Except you do use the stylus to control Metroid DS.
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If this person was truly stupid enough to not find out that he needed a special license beforehand, than anybody remotely close to him, anybody who has an ounce of compassion for him, should force him to close up immediately.
He can't close up. He has to prepay to use CS for a year or else get sued. That's what people don't like about this. If it was just a cease-and-desist letter, no one would care. But it's not.
Though he may go out of business anyways, if he can't pay up within the next 10 (well, now 8) days. Can't imagine a little game center would survive long being sued by Valve.
Heh. I play too many fantasy games. Playing music at an empty lake seems intuitive to me.
I think the problem is less how many people are buying games or not, and more that microsoft spends a lot of money on XBoxLive, advertising, and overly generous retail rewards programs (they give away free games to game store employees and xboxs to game store managers. Sony and Nintendo don't.). I'm assuming they're hoping that if they spend alot now, they'll be more popular later. I don't know if this is working or not.
"There's a secret where fairies don't live"
- Was a clue in dungeon 6. Also, dungeon 8 was kinda obvious since it was in the middle of the road.
Though I shouldn't talk. I couldn't find dungeon 2 without a map.
When PC's became more affordable, consoles died out. Uh, consoles never died out. I'ld argue that they're more popular now than they've ever been. That's why MS joined the console market.
I don't think the pricing scheme for MMORPGs is that out of line. $10-$15 a month isn't bad, since they're maintaining the servers to make sure the game runs all the time. Also, a good MMORPG will release free content for download, like EQ used to do (Paineel, the Warrens, etc). $30 for an expansion isn't bad either, assuming the expansion is worth it. The Kunark expansion had an entirely new continant, with a new playable race, new items and weapons, and zones and content for every level. $50 for a game that you have to pay monthly for is a little mean, but for a game that you could spend years on, it's not too bad. With other video games, you're lucky if you're still playing them at the end of the month, and they cost the same.
The real problem is that the expansions aren't doing enough to satify the players. I'm sure people who still play can explain better than me why the new ones suck, but it seems that the new ones are small, buggy, and only for high level players. They also seem to be released every six months, which seems a little extreme to me, and adds to the impression that SOE only cares about money, and not the game.
I really wish the makers of EQ cared as much as the players do. I used to love it. But it stopped being fun, and from what I can tell, it's gotten even worse since I left.
Parents have no idea wtf an 'M' rating means, and the ESRB either can, or chooses to, do nothing against retailers who don't restrict the sales of 'M' titles to minors. Hell, the ESRB doesn't even require retailers to post an education poster that breaks down game ratings for consumers the way the MPAA still does.
I don't know why people still don't understand what "Mature" means. Game stores have posters, pamphlets, and employees who know exactly how the rating system works. The ESRB doesn't do anything against stores that sale games to minors because it can't. Though mostly, parents buy the game for their kids because they don't care enough about the ratings rather than the store clerk selling it to the kid.
If the ESRB is unwilling to even try to educate consumers, or enforce its policies upon retailers - at the very least they could lift the MPAA's system wholesale, replace 'M' with 'R', and let us move on with life.
They can't. The MPAA has a copyright on the ratings. Besides, the ESRB ratings are more elaborate and specific.
What the ESRB should do, is take a nod from satellite and cable content ratings, and simply spell out all the themes in question.
If the game has cartoon violence, say so on the box.
If the game has graphic realistic violence, say so on the box.
If the game has brief nudity, say so on the box.
If the game has sexual themes, say so on the box.
If the game deals with substance abuse, say so on the box
They do. Go in a video game store and look at the boxes. The labels are very easy to read.
Every post I ever see about game ratings tell the ESRB to either do what it's already doing, or do what it can't. Please, look at the game ratings before saying what game ratings should do.
The reason people complain about our government and compare them to the nazis is not because we're anti-american, it's because our country is better than that. We should be mad about what's going on in our country today. Jose Padilla has been in jail for over a year and a half without being charged with a crime because Bush has decided that he can ignore the constitution when it comes to terrorists. If we don't speak up and get mad when our country does something wrong, we will become as bad as the nazis.
Yeah, I'm off-topic. Screw Karma. =P
Then you are no better then the fatherless child that stole it in the first place.
I didn't make the rule, and I no longer work there. I actually never even enforced it; the only time a situation like that happened my manager took care of it. My point was just that this can happen at any used game store, not just EB.
I'll be shopping at EB because I've seen the same thing happen at the Gamestop I used to work at, but that didn't get on Action News. Despite working at Gamestop for a year, and having friends working at other game stores, I've never heard of any store that regularly holds stuff for any lenth of time. My store's policy when someone comes in saying that their stuff was stolen and traded in, we tell them to go to the police, or else we can sell their stuff back at the normal price.
My point is that this happens at all game stores, not just EB. There's no more reason to boycott EB than their is to boycott Gamestop, GameCrazy, or any other place that sells used games. If you buy a used game, you have to know that there's the chance that it was stolen.