If the WOW comunity is so strong that you have to impose rules to prevent people from excluding you from the group in real life, how do you justify that they are not "real" friendships, and only exist in game.
I have been on both sides. I avoided it for years and was the person that got left out. Now I have been sucked in, and get the backlash from the friends and co-workers that don't want to hear it. I am just stating that you being excluded from the group does not make it any less "real", and actualy confirms that it exist outside of the game world. Wether it is more than a game is going to depend soley on how you define a game.
So, does that mean you voted for or against the NSA data mining your phone records? I would also like to know where you went to vote. I would like to take the high moral ground myself, but I don't seem to be able to locate it on the ballot.
I have a problem with everyone using my SSN as an ID. It was never intended to be used for an ID except by the IRS, your employer, and the social security office. The people that set it up knew that it would be a disaster if people started using it as an ID. That is why they use to read "Not for Identification". I have had mine used for my employee ID (posted on the wall for a call out list), my student ID (posted on the wall with my grades), my health insurace member number, my 401K membership number( this seems close to social security, but my SSN is the default account number, and the last four digits are the default password, Thank you Meryl Lynch for your concerns with my privacy).
Your SSN is not private, why do they act like you are the only one with this number. We are in a day an age when people need an ID number. I don't like it, but that is the way that things are shaping up. In small towns everyone just knew who everyone else was, now you probably don't know the name of your next door neighbor. People have to be able to verify that you are not someone else.
I think that I have the start of a solution. It needs to be done very similar to bank cards. There needs to be a private key, and a public key. Set up a goverment agency that is in charge of issuing ID numbers. Everyone gets an ID number when they are born or enter the country that they are never to give to anyone else. Anyone needs to verify an ID, is given a request number. When they want to verify your ID, they give you their request number, you run a hash with that number against your private number. They submit their number and your name to the "Department of Identification" and it returns the hash generated from their request number and the same number that only you, and the "Department of Identification" has. If the name and the hash match, it is you. Add a date of birth, and you have a way to verify age as well. It might require a public ID number instead of a name to prevent name conflicts, but it will be useless without the hash code. No two companies would ever be given the same ID hash number to track you with. If someone does intercept the number you have given, it will only be good with the company that you gave the number to, making it a lot easier to notice than if someone opens up a new bank account in another state. I have seen electronic address books on sale for under $5, I am sure that they can make a calculator that does nothing but calculate hash numbers that is cheaper than the Drivers license with all the conterfiet protection.
They also need to make it possible to obtain a new number if the old one is compromised. As the current US law stands, if someone gets your SSN and starts using it, you are prohibited from getting a new number. People in the Social security office have acctually stated that the best bet to gain your life back, is to move out of the country.
If you read the letter from AT&T they said that the person provided the last 4 digits of the social security number. This is why social security cards use to have "not for identification" printed on them. When people finally realized that we needed a national id number for some things, they also realized that it would turn bad if abused. Now that everyone ignores this fact, we have a large problem with identity theft. SSN were to be used by employers and the IRS. At different times I have had it as my employee ID posted on a call out list, my student ID posted with my grades, my insurance member number. You are not allowed to keep it secret, but they want to pretend that only you would know it.
Why does everyone always say, "you had a choice, you agreed to the ToS"
If we want to have a capitalistic society, then things need to be voted on with a dollar amount. Google provides a service. For capitalism to work, it should not be bound with anthing else. When you tie people's rights into the cost of a service, then the system is no longer fuctioning. If they want to have a reasonable fee for the people that want to use their service, but do not want to have their information collected, then people have a choice. Selecting anyone of the other companies that abuses the system the same way is not a choice. When it comes down to selecting products and services, not based on value vs price, but on who has the least evil ToS, then you will not get the best product or service for the price.
And people need to quit acting like everything is a luxury. With the society that we have built, you need certain things to survive in this society. Internet access is one of them. It is all good and well to say that if you don't like your internet provider then switch. Switch to what? The ToS agreement for all of them suck. Do with out? I guess they could hire someone at work to type in what I dictate and read the screen back to me so I wouldn't have to log in remotely, but then I have to agree to the ToS of the phone company. Internet service is as necessary as clothes and cars if you want to work most places.
As long as it is google and not clippy.
"Honey, is dinner ready"
"It looks like you are drying to make a meal from behive extract, would you like help with that?"
They did, it is just that when they sent 10,000 emails within 2 minutes, all containing a list of all know spam "keywords" and addresses, it didn't get through the spam filters for some reason
Liesure edition = normal PVE
dormant gamer = RP PVE
Social gamer = normal PVP
Gold Farmer = whereever the money is at the time
Incidental Gamers = RP PVP
NO, the ariticle does not describe what the different catagory of gamers are. Unless your accepted definition of leisure gamer IS "11% of the market" they go into no detail about how this is catorized. For the poster to make the statement that the artilce contains this information iplies to me that the poster knows the information that the aritcle is about, and probably reads the information in without thinking. This also implies to me that the poster has something to do with writing the article.
No, No, No.... You need to teach the children how to pass a TEST in readin', 'riting, and a'rithmetic so that we can prove the teacher, principle, and school board are doing their job and can get their bonus. It doesn't matter if they can apply the knowledge in the real world or slowly build on the concepts to develop understanding, they just need the test scores. Who cares if there is one less subject. I doubt there is a question about evolution on the test so it doesn't matter.
IANAL, but I think it might have something to do with "added on to the judgement". Are these kind of things usually done at the end of the case instead of during where it would prevent the deep pockets from running up the leagal bill, and hope the little guy can survive long enough to be reimburst?
I think that using the device in accordance with the media spin in the article is a good thing. I think that parents have the right to revoke any constitutional or privacy rights that a child might otherwise have. What I a problem with is the whole "think of the children" spin, without consideration of what else it might be used for. What is to prevent an employer, an abusive spouse, or an insurance agency from requiring it. If you are driving on company time, or in a company car, it is there right; but more and more, I see companies that want to control a persons life outside of work in order to protect the comany image. Companies that have banned all workers from smoking, even in there own homes on there own time. If they could limit it's use to a child and parent I am all for it
Post is also missing a few facts. As I understand it SCO filed the supeona with a deposition in two different cities to show up at the day after the supeona was servered in an effort to make the guy "jump" and do the quickest thing possible because he only had one day to get it before a judge. Even though the rest of the people that were served just skipped the deposition and then filled a complaint with the Utah Judge, he got in touch with a lawyer that was not the primary lawyer for the case and not fully aware of the tatics being played.
If this guy made any mistakes, he was lead into them by SCO's lawyers.
Remeber when you could pay for cable so that you didn't have to watch all the comercials? Remeber when you could get a customer service card and get a discount, instead of needing one to pay just under market value instead of 10% over market value? They might give people a discount on insurance until it is adopted, and then they are going to check the records and everything on there will be another reason to raise your rates. Even if you are a perfect driver, there will be times when you need to accelerate or brake. The current system can't tell what the speed limit was, so all that "hard acceleration" is the type of behavior they will look at, or the time you go out of state and the speed limit is 5 miles over the maximum speed in your home state.
I could see where you could use the information in a court case, but then why couldn't you submit your data. The other person may or may not consent to a search. If your data shows that you were driving correctly, now you have a reasonable cause to get a court order for the other guys data. At that point it would follow all the same laws as physically searching your vehicle
Because the cassette tapes were not 100% digital reproductions, and people were willing to pay for an original disk instead of listen to a stuipid cassette with all the added hiss and... wait a minute, the disk back in those days were viny... nevermind.
The fact that they have noticed particles is not any indication of dangerous. I work in a lab for the plastics industry. We take several samples a day and examine them under microscopes and electron microscopes. Were not talking computer parts or implants, were talking bottles, bags, and "tuperware" like containers. We don't do this because they might be dangerous, but to prevent or prove financial liability. If we have a contaminate in are product and it isn't discovered until after serveral hundred thousands of parts are made, there is a chance that we bought those parts. Some of the samples that are run are taken off of store shelves just to make sure that what is in the market is the same thing that passed all the qualification trials. I would not be suprised if sony does not pull random samples out of production lots to do this kind of testing. They were probably far more concerned with a functional failure and having to compensate dell, find out where they were going to get the stock to replace the batteries found bad, and then still have enough production to make the batteries that are needed for current sales.
I remeber when I went to upgrade from Microsoft visual studio 2002 to 2003. It was a free upgrade, but you had to send them a photo copy of the CDs to prove that you owned 2002. I don't own a photocopier, so I thought I would borrow the one at work. The expression on the IT guy when he walked in and found me "making copies" of CDs with company equipment was priceless.
If the people with the power to conduct such searches would demenstrate the ability not to use that power for trivial matters, then people wouldn't mind as much. With the stuff the RIAA is pulling, and the fact that I have been sent letters from the FBI for being in a militia( it is a D&D style live action RolePlaying game amtgard, I guess they are afraid of being stormed by imaginary wizards), have been told I had to move because my roomate needed an FBI security clearance. I have done nothing wrong, but I have things that I NEED to hide in order to live my life. If they are worried about not being able to capture the evil terroist, they need to focus there resources on that, when the goverment is using its resources to harass ordinary people, ordinary people will find a way to make things inconvenient for them.
Because the best way to control a population is to control the money. The people that have enough money to pick up and move, are really not that bad off under the current settings. You don't have to worry about being stuck on the runway for hours on end because of a security threat without a computer, cell phone, or ipod when you own a private jet.
To move to another country usually involves dealing with a realator and a lawyer in the country that you are moving to. Unless you are thinking that it is a good idea to just leave everything behind (you can't take it on the plane when you leave) and show up in another country with no plan, and no place to stay in search for a better life. Maybe things will get bad enough one day that doing that it is the better option, that does not mean you just accept what is happening now.
You forgot a group - The Dealers. Those people that are addicted bad enough to force all thier friends to play if they want to talk to them. Those people that give out thier character and server instead of an email address, and tell you to send them a post. How many more victums do these people bring in to make up for the lost fees when they jump ship. Chances are that when they do jump ship they are just going to sell/give away the account and someone else will make the same payments anyway.
How long will it take W.O.W II to get a rating? or a truely random game of freecell. Do they have to play or win every game, if you don't win, it just feels like you only played half the game so far.
If it had been a person instead of a police car, then it would clearly be a federal case. If it was a federal case, he would have no protection. What if it had been a case of someone jay walking, but also showed you making out with a priest in the background. Should he hand over that tape or not. Instead of playing "what if", the court needs to apply the law as it stands, or declare the law unconstitutional. The court should not be basing its decisions on "what if"
"2 wrong don't make a right"?
I hear this statement often, and am completely amazed at how many people never think about it long enough to realize that it does not hold true. The time that I heard it most was usually in school for fighting. I was the school neard, and got picked on a LOT, but would try to defend myself when warrented. The school was unable to keep the other kids off of me, and when I asked I was told that I needed to learn to defend myself. When I did this is the statement that I got. Then it hit me. I asked the principle to grab a student out of the hall and bust him instead of me. He told me that wasn't right. But busting me is right? Yes, because you did something wrong. So me doing something wrong, makes you doing someing wrong right?
All forms of punishment would be inherently wrong if used on someone that did not do something wrong first. Anything the goverment could do to solve the problem with the high pitch speaker would be considered wrong unless it was determined the old neighbor was doing something wrong first. It might be uncivilized to take the law into your own hands, but that is a far cry from "2 wrongs don't make a right"
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What do you do for the presidential election? Same issue, same resolution.
I have been on both sides. I avoided it for years and was the person that got left out. Now I have been sucked in, and get the backlash from the friends and co-workers that don't want to hear it. I am just stating that you being excluded from the group does not make it any less "real", and actualy confirms that it exist outside of the game world. Wether it is more than a game is going to depend soley on how you define a game.
So, does that mean you voted for or against the NSA data mining your phone records? I would also like to know where you went to vote. I would like to take the high moral ground myself, but I don't seem to be able to locate it on the ballot.
Your SSN is not private, why do they act like you are the only one with this number. We are in a day an age when people need an ID number. I don't like it, but that is the way that things are shaping up. In small towns everyone just knew who everyone else was, now you probably don't know the name of your next door neighbor. People have to be able to verify that you are not someone else.
I think that I have the start of a solution. It needs to be done very similar to bank cards. There needs to be a private key, and a public key. Set up a goverment agency that is in charge of issuing ID numbers. Everyone gets an ID number when they are born or enter the country that they are never to give to anyone else. Anyone needs to verify an ID, is given a request number. When they want to verify your ID, they give you their request number, you run a hash with that number against your private number. They submit their number and your name to the "Department of Identification" and it returns the hash generated from their request number and the same number that only you, and the "Department of Identification" has. If the name and the hash match, it is you. Add a date of birth, and you have a way to verify age as well. It might require a public ID number instead of a name to prevent name conflicts, but it will be useless without the hash code. No two companies would ever be given the same ID hash number to track you with. If someone does intercept the number you have given, it will only be good with the company that you gave the number to, making it a lot easier to notice than if someone opens up a new bank account in another state. I have seen electronic address books on sale for under $5, I am sure that they can make a calculator that does nothing but calculate hash numbers that is cheaper than the Drivers license with all the conterfiet protection.
They also need to make it possible to obtain a new number if the old one is compromised. As the current US law stands, if someone gets your SSN and starts using it, you are prohibited from getting a new number. People in the Social security office have acctually stated that the best bet to gain your life back, is to move out of the country.
If you read the letter from AT&T they said that the person provided the last 4 digits of the social security number. This is why social security cards use to have "not for identification" printed on them. When people finally realized that we needed a national id number for some things, they also realized that it would turn bad if abused. Now that everyone ignores this fact, we have a large problem with identity theft. SSN were to be used by employers and the IRS. At different times I have had it as my employee ID posted on a call out list, my student ID posted with my grades, my insurance member number. You are not allowed to keep it secret, but they want to pretend that only you would know it.
Why does everyone always say, "you had a choice, you agreed to the ToS"
If we want to have a capitalistic society, then things need to be voted on with a dollar amount. Google provides a service. For capitalism to work, it should not be bound with anthing else. When you tie people's rights into the cost of a service, then the system is no longer fuctioning. If they want to have a reasonable fee for the people that want to use their service, but do not want to have their information collected, then people have a choice. Selecting anyone of the other companies that abuses the system the same way is not a choice. When it comes down to selecting products and services, not based on value vs price, but on who has the least evil ToS, then you will not get the best product or service for the price.
And people need to quit acting like everything is a luxury. With the society that we have built, you need certain things to survive in this society. Internet access is one of them. It is all good and well to say that if you don't like your internet provider then switch. Switch to what? The ToS agreement for all of them suck. Do with out? I guess they could hire someone at work to type in what I dictate and read the screen back to me so I wouldn't have to log in remotely, but then I have to agree to the ToS of the phone company. Internet service is as necessary as clothes and cars if you want to work most places.
As long as it is google and not clippy. "Honey, is dinner ready" "It looks like you are drying to make a meal from behive extract, would you like help with that?"
They did, it is just that when they sent 10,000 emails within 2 minutes, all containing a list of all know spam "keywords" and addresses, it didn't get through the spam filters for some reason
Liesure edition = normal PVE
dormant gamer = RP PVE
Social gamer = normal PVP
Gold Farmer = whereever the money is at the time
Incidental Gamers = RP PVP
Yep, got it covered.
NO, the ariticle does not describe what the different catagory of gamers are. Unless your accepted definition of leisure gamer IS "11% of the market" they go into no detail about how this is catorized. For the poster to make the statement that the artilce contains this information iplies to me that the poster knows the information that the aritcle is about, and probably reads the information in without thinking. This also implies to me that the poster has something to do with writing the article.
No, No, No .... You need to teach the children how to pass a TEST in readin', 'riting, and a'rithmetic so that we can prove the teacher, principle, and school board are doing their job and can get their bonus. It doesn't matter if they can apply the knowledge in the real world or slowly build on the concepts to develop understanding, they just need the test scores. Who cares if there is one less subject. I doubt there is a question about evolution on the test so it doesn't matter.
IANAL, but I think it might have something to do with "added on to the judgement". Are these kind of things usually done at the end of the case instead of during where it would prevent the deep pockets from running up the leagal bill, and hope the little guy can survive long enough to be reimburst?
I think that using the device in accordance with the media spin in the article is a good thing. I think that parents have the right to revoke any constitutional or privacy rights that a child might otherwise have. What I a problem with is the whole "think of the children" spin, without consideration of what else it might be used for. What is to prevent an employer, an abusive spouse, or an insurance agency from requiring it. If you are driving on company time, or in a company car, it is there right; but more and more, I see companies that want to control a persons life outside of work in order to protect the comany image. Companies that have banned all workers from smoking, even in there own homes on there own time. If they could limit it's use to a child and parent I am all for it
Post is also missing a few facts. As I understand it SCO filed the supeona with a deposition in two different cities to show up at the day after the supeona was servered in an effort to make the guy "jump" and do the quickest thing possible because he only had one day to get it before a judge. Even though the rest of the people that were served just skipped the deposition and then filled a complaint with the Utah Judge, he got in touch with a lawyer that was not the primary lawyer for the case and not fully aware of the tatics being played.
If this guy made any mistakes, he was lead into them by SCO's lawyers.
Remeber when you could pay for cable so that you didn't have to watch all the comercials? Remeber when you could get a customer service card and get a discount, instead of needing one to pay just under market value instead of 10% over market value? They might give people a discount on insurance until it is adopted, and then they are going to check the records and everything on there will be another reason to raise your rates. Even if you are a perfect driver, there will be times when you need to accelerate or brake. The current system can't tell what the speed limit was, so all that "hard acceleration" is the type of behavior they will look at, or the time you go out of state and the speed limit is 5 miles over the maximum speed in your home state.
I could see where you could use the information in a court case, but then why couldn't you submit your data. The other person may or may not consent to a search. If your data shows that you were driving correctly, now you have a reasonable cause to get a court order for the other guys data. At that point it would follow all the same laws as physically searching your vehicle
Because the cassette tapes were not 100% digital reproductions, and people were willing to pay for an original disk instead of listen to a stuipid cassette with all the added hiss and ... wait a minute, the disk back in those days were viny ... nevermind.
The fact that they have noticed particles is not any indication of dangerous. I work in a lab for the plastics industry. We take several samples a day and examine them under microscopes and electron microscopes. Were not talking computer parts or implants, were talking bottles, bags, and "tuperware" like containers. We don't do this because they might be dangerous, but to prevent or prove financial liability. If we have a contaminate in are product and it isn't discovered until after serveral hundred thousands of parts are made, there is a chance that we bought those parts. Some of the samples that are run are taken off of store shelves just to make sure that what is in the market is the same thing that passed all the qualification trials. I would not be suprised if sony does not pull random samples out of production lots to do this kind of testing. They were probably far more concerned with a functional failure and having to compensate dell, find out where they were going to get the stock to replace the batteries found bad, and then still have enough production to make the batteries that are needed for current sales.
I remeber when I went to upgrade from Microsoft visual studio 2002 to 2003. It was a free upgrade, but you had to send them a photo copy of the CDs to prove that you owned 2002. I don't own a photocopier, so I thought I would borrow the one at work. The expression on the IT guy when he walked in and found me "making copies" of CDs with company equipment was priceless.
If the people with the power to conduct such searches would demenstrate the ability not to use that power for trivial matters, then people wouldn't mind as much. With the stuff the RIAA is pulling, and the fact that I have been sent letters from the FBI for being in a militia( it is a D&D style live action RolePlaying game amtgard, I guess they are afraid of being stormed by imaginary wizards), have been told I had to move because my roomate needed an FBI security clearance. I have done nothing wrong, but I have things that I NEED to hide in order to live my life. If they are worried about not being able to capture the evil terroist, they need to focus there resources on that, when the goverment is using its resources to harass ordinary people, ordinary people will find a way to make things inconvenient for them.
Because the best way to control a population is to control the money. The people that have enough money to pick up and move, are really not that bad off under the current settings. You don't have to worry about being stuck on the runway for hours on end because of a security threat without a computer, cell phone, or ipod when you own a private jet.
To move to another country usually involves dealing with a realator and a lawyer in the country that you are moving to. Unless you are thinking that it is a good idea to just leave everything behind (you can't take it on the plane when you leave) and show up in another country with no plan, and no place to stay in search for a better life. Maybe things will get bad enough one day that doing that it is the better option, that does not mean you just accept what is happening now.
You forgot a group - The Dealers. Those people that are addicted bad enough to force all thier friends to play if they want to talk to them. Those people that give out thier character and server instead of an email address, and tell you to send them a post. How many more victums do these people bring in to make up for the lost fees when they jump ship. Chances are that when they do jump ship they are just going to sell/give away the account and someone else will make the same payments anyway.
How long will it take W.O.W II to get a rating? or a truely random game of freecell. Do they have to play or win every game, if you don't win, it just feels like you only played half the game so far.
No, I want to play Global Thermal Nuclear War!
If it had been a person instead of a police car, then it would clearly be a federal case. If it was a federal case, he would have no protection. What if it had been a case of someone jay walking, but also showed you making out with a priest in the background. Should he hand over that tape or not. Instead of playing "what if", the court needs to apply the law as it stands, or declare the law unconstitutional. The court should not be basing its decisions on "what if"
If "morale effect" is over the line, where would you place bombing a city for "Shock and Awe"?
"2 wrong don't make a right"? I hear this statement often, and am completely amazed at how many people never think about it long enough to realize that it does not hold true. The time that I heard it most was usually in school for fighting. I was the school neard, and got picked on a LOT, but would try to defend myself when warrented. The school was unable to keep the other kids off of me, and when I asked I was told that I needed to learn to defend myself. When I did this is the statement that I got. Then it hit me. I asked the principle to grab a student out of the hall and bust him instead of me. He told me that wasn't right. But busting me is right? Yes, because you did something wrong. So me doing something wrong, makes you doing someing wrong right?
All forms of punishment would be inherently wrong if used on someone that did not do something wrong first. Anything the goverment could do to solve the problem with the high pitch speaker would be considered wrong unless it was determined the old neighbor was doing something wrong first. It might be uncivilized to take the law into your own hands, but that is a far cry from "2 wrongs don't make a right"