I thought conciousness was the collective will of your cells to keep you alive.
if everything is duplicated, so is that. in the case of a copy, both entities would be you. As long as everyone agrees that theres no life after death, i see no problem with this method of travel. even if i had to kill my copy i would still be alive. I would probably offer to die for my duplicate but he, being me, would offer as well. i guess an impartial third party would just shoot one of us.
"And if we decide to nuke Europe, there's no stopping us there, either. Of course, no one's afraid we're going to do that. "
Really? I'm fucking afraid of that. Im sure im not alone. Disregarding the fact that you just suggested doing it, America will nuke something eventually. its in the character of americans and the american government. america as a country, is a rich ( think new credit card illusionary rich) teenage psychopath.
it doesnt matter how nicely its acting now with domain name delegation. you simply dont know when a psychopath is going to pull a knife on you and stab you in the fucking throat. psychopaths do that kind of shit FOR FUN. Personally, I dont blame the UN one bit.
"This is a country that won't let their citizens bear arms (increasing crime [lewrockwell.com]), but will let security officers shoot first and never ask questions."
I didnt go to your assumedly gun nut link, but i really dont understand what your syaing here. Are you saying that the brazillian guy, had he been carrying a gun, would have been less likely to get shot in the head? what would you have had him do? shoot the advancing security personelle?
Repeat after me I DO NOT LIVE IN THE OLD WEST. I CANNOT SHOOT COPS BEFORE THEY SHOOT ME
and another one from ABC news, about how they in their enlightened wisdom (read fearmongering) think that the asian birdflu will result in similar problems.
"Or "manufacturer releases LCD display where black is black, not grayish""
Check out this monitor. I just baught one. The screen is shiney and reflective like a CRT. i dont know how they did it, but the black on this monitor is true jet back. so black that you get glare if you have a light behind you.
Theres no glass infront of it either. I dont know what kind of crazy technology they used but it was worth every penny.
"Kurzweil refers not to a collapsed supernova, but instead to an extraordinarily bright future in which technological progress has leapt by such exponentially large bounds that it will be... well, for lack of a better word: 'utopian'."
theres no money to be made when everyone is happy. As long as the focus of society is on amassing capital, their will be no utopia.
well i dont know if thats true (never heard it before), but i believe the ideal socialist world would involve a non corrupt centralized authority (super computer or something). In this world, all basic needs are provided by the world govt. Everyone is free to do what they want with their lives without worrying about starving to death or being overcome by sickness or greed. The idea is that there are no rich/poor classes but just one class whoes basic needs are all met. Now if its similar to the TV show, you have this military authoritarian borderline fascist government whoes trying to chase you down and run your life. I know alot of americans think that these people are more like libertarians than socialists, and i can see why. the thing is, if their wasnt this constant threat against their lives by the fascists, they could settle down and have a good life.
idealy socialism is freedom. freedom to do what you want while having a safety net incase you fall. socialism is about resource equality. Thats all these characters want, to survive and not to be oppressed by the facist military. I could easily see the alliance in this series being a reference to the US govt and the characters either socialist or libertarian.
after all a libertarian is just a socialist who is scared and see enemies in his fellow man. in a perfect world, the state should treat everyone equally. libertarians (rightly in this day in age) dont trust the system. Both think the system is broken, but libertarians have been traumatized and trustno1, while socialists realize that we will never go back to small comunities where you can trust everyone so people better get used to being civil to eachother.
For example, I've heard Einstein's Theory of Relativity described as a beautiful hack
Einstein didn't *change* anything. How can it be a hack? Rather, he produced a theory describing the Universe according to scientific method.
i thought hacking was overcomming problems in a short susinct(1) and sometimes dirty ways. in this way, e=mc^2 is a "hack" because its so short and memorable.
Most certainly, people like Edison and George Washington Carver and Eli Whitney were hackers.
Actually, they were experimenters. They experimented until they found what they were looking for.
parent was making a joke. one hacked up george washington and the rest probably had something to do with knives (edison inveted the electric knife?). very funny i guess.
(1) sorry spellbound hasnt been updated to firefox beta yet.
"At least one band I know likes it when you download their music; it means you're listening and may even go to a club to see them or buy a tee-shirt. But the fact that many people would download their music anyway, even if they weren't fine with that, bugs the hell out of them."
Why? isnt the point of producing music to have your music heard by others? doesnt anyone make music because they have something to say?
I dont believe anyone owns music. its like history. its a part of the culture. if you dont want people to hear what you produce, dont produce it. is it completely crazy to think this?
"What do they have in common with EDonkey? Either they all need to be shut down for capitalizing on human frailty, or none of them do."
k but the "victims" here are corporations not people. corporations are have no morals, they respect money. thats all. this is where your analogy falls apart. not to mention the fact that jus because someone breaks the law, doesnt make the law right. Media corps deserve no respect. if you can't agree on that, then i dont think i can see eye to eye with you.
and there's why their will never be real social change for the better. all i see is conformists and idealists when really we need dissenters and rabble rousers. this is what the online file SHARING community is and always has been about. access to information for the masses. its not accessing things for free today, its empowering a generation to re evaluate why we previously payed for certain things.
everyone has it backwards, the entertainment companies are stealing from me. this takes the form of increased copyright term lengths, and profiting by being a fence for things; nay.. not things but CULTURE. thats why people want to protect it. culture belongs to us all. The *IAA is the epitome of management. maintaining a relationship between two parties ( artists, consumers ) and skimming off the top. this relationship is very last century, and is obsoleted by the internets. besides, doesnt even jesus say that this is wrong in the bible? thou shalt not make money for nothing?
"These are classic geek genres, and Wallace & Gromit is something I can watch with the kids!"
funny. I watched corpse bride last night and would have absolutely NO problem showing that to my 3 year old nephew. Its not scary at all. its a fuckign musical for most of it. kids love that shit, like when the teacups and kitchen equipment are dancing around in beauty and the beast. if its got music and expressive characters with accents (the worm in her eye) the kids eat it up.
its a bit goth sure, but if you dont want your kids to be a bit goth then your probably raising them wrong IMHO. the story it self could be right out of grimms fairy tales. a childs concept of death is way less morbid than an adults. we need to teach our kids to embrace death as a part of life. I would say that needs to be done to take teh place of the religious dogma that you would tell kids in the past. we dont tell our kids that people go to "heaven" anymore, so their needs to be something to replace that. an underworld of the dead filled with dancing skeletons and whimsical ghosts is exactly what i would like my kids to believe the afterlife is like. just until they are ready to accept the nothingness of course.
"I've had nothing but slow downloads (and yes I've forwarded the ports) and crashes using their client."
perhaps you have a shitty router?
ive seen some routers choke on multiple simultanious connections from say ~30 different addresses. this can sometimes make programs crash on your pc. time to upgrade your router
"Unitl I am actually deprived of life, liberty or the pursuit of happiness, how are my rights being violated exactly?"
first they came for the jews, but i was not a jew, so i did nothing.
"So, you set up the laws such that information is available, may be used for analysis, but if it is used against you, you have a solid legal foundation for a lawsuit, with HUGE fines for violators."
enron, worldcom, m$, diebold (2008). see most people who have had to deal with "the system" do not trust it. if the only arguments you can provide are: a) these people are a bunch of chicken little crazies, it will never get that bad. and b) if it did get that bad, someone would react properly
then i would say you are overlooking the entire history of the world. it does get that bad, and people like you are the ones who make others complacent.
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use norton corporate. thin lightweight and non intrusive.
For your friday afternoon SLOW NEWS TIME!!! yes thats right, every friday afternoon est people get off work and go have a beer, while us PST people have jack all to do! This wouldnt normally be a problem as slashdot provides ample abilities to waste time, however all the editors are on EST time! YAY
so without further adue, i give you some offtopic link i found on the internets!(patent pending) http://www.notproud.com/
an online confessional! a very very nice waste of time, if i do say so myself.
really? i didnt know any of that! i actually learned something on slashdot..
personally i set the washer on warm because that turns on both the hot and the cold water and the washer fills up faster. then i dont have to wait as long for my clothes to wash. your ways good too tho.
"Around 48% are confused by different kinds of files like Jpegs and PDFs and don't know how they should be used."
if windows shipped with the default of "extentions turned on", this wouldnt be a problem. Theres also the fact that every time you create a user it defaults to this behavior. I have never found a group policy setting that addresses this issue, but i havent really looked too hard either.
its just one of those intelligent microsoft decisions that make things "easier". because theres nothing like having no idea what a file is when your talking ease of use...
"Again, thank you so much for taking the time to respond. We look forward to hearing from you again in the future."
i think you mean sucking their dicks in the future. its a pr droid. just because its wow doesnt mean you have to give it respect. your exactly like those people on the fourms - an apologist. suck it up, they are not going to give you your epic mount mmkay?
"People want their MMORPG character to move via a keypress from the comfort of their sofa"
Some people want/need to get more exercise then they do currently. For them an hour or so in this ball would be more than enough. You can always switch back to the keyboard when you get tired. therefor...
"To use some of their own lame terminology, I want the magic of the movies to continue. I want them to spend $300 million on the next hyper-realistic super-imaginary world"
well sure thats your opinion i guess. Personally, I have never seen a well done movie that cost millions of dollars. maybe they exsist, but i am in mind that there is no correlation (except maybe an inverse one) between money and greatness. thats not what its about though. what you say, "i want the magic of movies to continue", is bizzare to me. do you some how believe that people will stop using film as a medium for art because someone isnt there to pay the bills? Especially with ease of distribution using the internet, viral marketing using the internet, and things like donations and micropayments. What it will succeded in doing however is kill the "for profit" movie. the movie that is dreamed up by executives in an office. the movie written, filmed and distributed with always the aim of making money. duce bigalo 2 is not art. its a symptom of the sickness of society and the willingness for corporations to do whatever it takes to extract money from people.
People need to make movies because they love making movies. you cant buy magic, and that is the point im opposing in your post. hope you dont invalidate it because i misspelled something, but i know thats just the way some people cope with ideas they do not like.
oh and lastly, i would not have experienced the amazing film lackawana blues without the miracle of file sharing. I would be very surprised with the director, if upon hearing that his movie had changed me, remarked something to the aeffect of, 'yeah but i didnt get no bank off that freeloader so fuck em'
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I thought conciousness was the collective will of your cells to keep you alive.
if everything is duplicated, so is that. in the case of a copy, both entities would be you. As long as everyone agrees that theres no life after death, i see no problem with this method of travel. even if i had to kill my copy i would still be alive. I would probably offer to die for my duplicate but he, being me, would offer as well. i guess an impartial third party would just shoot one of us.
"And if we decide to nuke Europe, there's no stopping us there, either. Of course, no one's afraid we're going to do that. "
Really? I'm fucking afraid of that. Im sure im not alone. Disregarding the fact that you just suggested doing it, America will nuke something eventually. its in the character of americans and the american government. america as a country, is a rich ( think new credit card illusionary rich) teenage psychopath.
it doesnt matter how nicely its acting now with domain name delegation. you simply dont know when a psychopath is going to pull a knife on you and stab you in the fucking throat. psychopaths do that kind of shit FOR FUN. Personally, I dont blame the UN one bit.
its called VCD :P
"This is a country that won't let their citizens bear arms (increasing crime [lewrockwell.com]), but will let security officers shoot first and never ask questions."
I didnt go to your assumedly gun nut link, but i really dont understand what your syaing here. Are you saying that the brazillian guy, had he been carrying a gun, would have been less likely to get shot in the head? what would you have had him do? shoot the advancing security personelle?
Repeat after me I DO NOT LIVE IN THE OLD WEST. I CANNOT SHOOT COPS BEFORE THEY SHOOT ME
Heres another article at the BBC
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4308872.stm
and another one from ABC news, about how they in their enlightened wisdom (read fearmongering) think that the asian birdflu will result in similar problems.
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Flu/story?id=1183172
i would have posted as ANON but aparently 212 minutes since i last posted a comment is not enough time to wait between comments
"Or "manufacturer releases LCD display where black is black, not grayish""
Check out this monitor. I just baught one. The screen is shiney and reflective like a CRT. i dont know how they did it, but the black on this monitor is true jet back. so black that you get glare if you have a light behind you.
Theres no glass infront of it either. I dont know what kind of crazy technology they used but it was worth every penny.
"Kurzweil refers not to a collapsed supernova, but instead to an extraordinarily bright future in which technological progress has leapt by such exponentially large bounds that it will be... well, for lack of a better word: 'utopian'."
theres no money to be made when everyone is happy. As long as the focus of society is on amassing capital, their will be no utopia.
Even the theme song is freedom loving:
To bad Whedon's a socialist. Weird.
well i dont know if thats true (never heard it before), but i believe the ideal socialist world would involve a non corrupt centralized authority (super computer or something). In this world, all basic needs are provided by the world govt. Everyone is free to do what they want with their lives without worrying about starving to death or being overcome by sickness or greed. The idea is that there are no rich/poor classes but just one class whoes basic needs are all met. Now if its similar to the TV show, you have this military authoritarian borderline fascist government whoes trying to chase you down and run your life. I know alot of americans think that these people are more like libertarians than socialists, and i can see why. the thing is, if their wasnt this constant threat against their lives by the fascists, they could settle down and have a good life.
idealy socialism is freedom. freedom to do what you want while having a safety net incase you fall. socialism is about resource equality. Thats all these characters want, to survive and not to be oppressed by the facist military. I could easily see the alliance in this series being a reference to the US govt and the characters either socialist or libertarian.
after all a libertarian is just a socialist who is scared and see enemies in his fellow man. in a perfect world, the state should treat everyone equally. libertarians (rightly in this day in age) dont trust the system. Both think the system is broken, but libertarians have been traumatized and trustno1, while socialists realize that we will never go back to small comunities where you can trust everyone so people better get used to being civil to eachother.
"Given that Ipods and selling music is a big thing for apple they will bend over and take it from the music industry."
im proud to say that i have not one legally downloaded song on my ipod.
itunes didnt make me buy an ipod, i already have a ton of music. i however, did not have all that music in my car. thanks ipod!
i thought hacking was overcomming problems in a short susinct(1) and sometimes dirty ways. in this way, e=mc^2 is a "hack" because its so short and memorable.
parent was making a joke. one hacked up george washington and the rest probably had something to do with knives (edison inveted the electric knife?). very funny i guess.
(1) sorry spellbound hasnt been updated to firefox beta yet.
"At least one band I know likes it when you download their music; it means you're listening and may even go to a club to see them or buy a tee-shirt. But the fact that many people would download their music anyway, even if they weren't fine with that, bugs the hell out of them."
Why? isnt the point of producing music to have your music heard by others? doesnt anyone make music because they have something to say?
I dont believe anyone owns music. its like history. its a part of the culture. if you dont want people to hear what you produce, dont produce it. is it completely crazy to think this?
"What do they have in common with EDonkey? Either they all need to be shut down for capitalizing on human frailty, or none of them do."
k but the "victims" here are corporations not people. corporations are have no morals, they respect money. thats all. this is where your analogy falls apart. not to mention the fact that jus because someone breaks the law, doesnt make the law right. Media corps deserve no respect. if you can't agree on that, then i dont think i can see eye to eye with you.
"act within it"
and there's why their will never be real social change for the better. all i see is conformists and idealists when really we need dissenters and rabble rousers. this is what the online file SHARING community is and always has been about. access to information for the masses. its not accessing things for free today, its empowering a generation to re evaluate why we previously payed for certain things.
everyone has it backwards, the entertainment companies are stealing from me. this takes the form of increased copyright term lengths, and profiting by being a fence for things; nay.. not things but CULTURE. thats why people want to protect it. culture belongs to us all. The *IAA is the epitome of management. maintaining a relationship between two parties ( artists, consumers ) and skimming off the top. this relationship is very last century, and is obsoleted by the internets. besides, doesnt even jesus say that this is wrong in the bible? thou shalt not make money for nothing?
"These are classic geek genres, and Wallace & Gromit is something I can watch with the kids!"
funny. I watched corpse bride last night and would have absolutely NO problem showing that to my 3 year old nephew. Its not scary at all. its a fuckign musical for most of it. kids love that shit, like when the teacups and kitchen equipment are dancing around in beauty and the beast. if its got music and expressive characters with accents (the worm in her eye) the kids eat it up.
its a bit goth sure, but if you dont want your kids to be a bit goth then your probably raising them wrong IMHO. the story it self could be right out of grimms fairy tales. a childs concept of death is way less morbid than an adults. we need to teach our kids to embrace death as a part of life. I would say that needs to be done to take teh place of the religious dogma that you would tell kids in the past. we dont tell our kids that people go to "heaven" anymore, so their needs to be something to replace that. an underworld of the dead filled with dancing skeletons and whimsical ghosts is exactly what i would like my kids to believe the afterlife is like. just until they are ready to accept the nothingness of course.
"I've had nothing but slow downloads (and yes I've forwarded the ports) and crashes using their client."
perhaps you have a shitty router?
ive seen some routers choke on multiple simultanious connections from say ~30 different addresses. this can sometimes make programs crash on your pc. time to upgrade your router
"Unitl I am actually deprived of life, liberty or the pursuit of happiness, how are my rights being violated exactly?"
first they came for the jews, but i was not a jew, so i did nothing.
"So, you set up the laws such that information is available, may be used for analysis, but if it is used against you, you have a solid legal foundation for a lawsuit, with HUGE fines for violators."
enron, worldcom, m$, diebold (2008). see most people who have had to deal with "the system" do not trust it. if the only arguments you can provide are:
a) these people are a bunch of chicken little crazies, it will never get that bad.
and
b) if it did get that bad, someone would react properly
then i would say you are overlooking the entire history of the world. it does get that bad, and people like you are the ones who make others complacent.
use norton corporate. thin lightweight and non intrusive.
For your friday afternoon SLOW NEWS TIME!!! yes thats right, every friday afternoon est people get off work and go have a beer, while us PST people have jack all to do! This wouldnt normally be a problem as slashdot provides ample abilities to waste time, however all the editors are on EST time! YAY
:(
so without further adue, i give you some offtopic link i found on the internets!(patent pending)
http://www.notproud.com/
an online confessional! a very very nice waste of time, if i do say so myself.
some gems:
http://www.notproud.com/lust/lust10128.php
http://www.notproud.com/sloth/sloth1966.php
http://www.notproud.com/lust/lust5143.php
*tried to post anon but aparently its been 28 minutes since i posted a reply. guess they didnt fix that bug yet
really? i didnt know any of that! i actually learned something on slashdot..
personally i set the washer on warm because that turns on both the hot and the cold water and the washer fills up faster. then i dont have to wait as long for my clothes to wash.
your ways good too tho.
"Around 48% are confused by different kinds of files like Jpegs and PDFs and don't know how they should be used."
if windows shipped with the default of "extentions turned on", this wouldnt be a problem. Theres also the fact that every time you create a user it defaults to this behavior. I have never found a group policy setting that addresses this issue, but i havent really looked too hard either.
its just one of those intelligent microsoft decisions that make things "easier". because theres nothing like having no idea what a file is when your talking ease of use...
"Again, thank you so much for taking the time to respond. We look forward to hearing from you again in the future."
i think you mean sucking their dicks in the future. its a pr droid. just because its wow doesnt mean you have to give it respect. your exactly like those people on the fourms - an apologist. suck it up, they are not going to give you your epic mount mmkay?
Well i dont know if you saw this but rita is now a CAT 5.
Id get the fuck out of there dude becuase your house is going to get blown away. UPS's and all.
"People want their MMORPG character to move via a keypress from the comfort of their sofa"
Some people want/need to get more exercise then they do currently. For them an hour or so in this ball would be more than enough. You can always switch back to the keyboard when you get tired. therefor...
i for on welcome our gigantic ball overloards
well sure thats your opinion i guess. Personally, I have never seen a well done movie that cost millions of dollars. maybe they exsist, but i am in mind that there is no correlation (except maybe an inverse one) between money and greatness. thats not what its about though. what you say, "i want the magic of movies to continue", is bizzare to me. do you some how believe that people will stop using film as a medium for art because someone isnt there to pay the bills? Especially with ease of distribution using the internet, viral marketing using the internet, and things like donations and micropayments. What it will succeded in doing however is kill the "for profit" movie. the movie that is dreamed up by executives in an office. the movie written, filmed and distributed with always the aim of making money. duce bigalo 2 is not art. its a symptom of the sickness of society and the willingness for corporations to do whatever it takes to extract money from people.
People need to make movies because they love making movies. you cant buy magic, and that is the point im opposing in your post. hope you dont invalidate it because i misspelled something, but i know thats just the way some people cope with ideas they do not like.
oh and lastly, i would not have experienced the amazing film lackawana blues without the miracle of file sharing. I would be very surprised with the director, if upon hearing that his movie had changed me, remarked something to the aeffect of, 'yeah but i didnt get no bank off that freeloader so fuck em'
thats not why artists make movies