Ugh, those plastic mousepads were a horrible idea anyway. They don't work very well and are just generally uncomfortable imho. I'm much more satisfied with the cloth type.
How many computer users do you think actually know anything about this stuff? My shop does exactly the same thing. We have had customers in the past who asked us not to install the software, so, of course, we didn't. The vast majority, however, just wants us to "clean that damned thing up." In this case, we do whatever is necessary to clean the computer up.
Does your mechanic need to get your consent before each process that he goes through to fix your car? No, you take it there, tell them to do what it takes to get it working unless it will cost too much. That's exactly how it works fixing computers. If we had to get consent before every single action repairing computers, we'd be on the phone so much that we'd never get anything done.
Oh, and for those who say computer stores need the revenue and thus will not provide education and good software to keep the computer clean, you are very much off base. I HATE seeing a computer come back after it leaves the store. It's a complete pain in the ass to get rid of all this junk. Besides the annoyance with it, once a computer has been touched by us, the customer believes that anything that goes wrong afterwards is our fault. So, when computers come back in in a short period of time (no matter how stupid the end user or what they've done) we often end up repairing them again for free. That marks a major loss of revenue if it happens too often, so we definately make sure to tell them how to keep their computer clean. Unfortunately it's a very hard thing to do.
Thanks for the warning, but alas you were correct. Slashdot should have a pdf warning for links like Google does. It really wouldn't be that difficult. I'd try to work it out myself, but frankly I'm a bit worried about the patch submission process to slashcode. Besides... would it ever be implemented?
You forgot to mention the magic ability to actually run and function correctly with a limited user account. Try that on windows and you'll have an aneurism within an hour.
Well, that "Pretty GUI" allows me to run Photoshop. That's enough to sell me. Now there's a bonus in that it looks nice and that keyboard shortcuts and a lot of application functionality are almost completely standardized accross the platform. In short, it's a kick ass operating system. Let me know when linux can run Photoshop (not GIMP, don't even try to tell me that it's the same thing) and look decent with extra usability features like Expose. At that point, I'd be happy to switch to linux on my desktop. Unfortunately, that's a long way off.
Also, what the hell is wrong with a user interface that looks nice as long as it functions well. I'm all about function over form, but if you can have both, then great! It's nice to work on a system that looks decent. It's just another small thing to help brighten up my day just a little bit.
I don't really think that it can be denied that it constitues a form of advertising. It is, however, a very non-invasive form and one that I really have no problem with. It's when this type of thing is thrown in my face that it bothers me.
Agreed. I actually wouldn't have much problem with a "legit" spyware program. As long as I knew what it did, could remove it whenever I felt like it and knew that it wouldn't corrupt my system, it might be worth trading that for certain thigns.
Out of curiosity, was it you that found that or had you seen it elsewhere? I'm just wondering how long people sit on that site looking for strange things.
How many people really need to worry about that, though? In a server, yes, it makes a big difference. Beyond that, though, I can't think of a scenario where it would really cause a problem. Maybe for thin clients, I guess... Most workstations just don't do enough network traffic to make that a large issue, though.
Compelling I'll grant you, but what was innovative about Firefox? Tabbed browsing was already in Opera and Safari. Not falling victim to spyware doesn't count as innovation for me either; it's just how things should work. In my eyes, what Firefox had / has going for it is that it's stable, standards complient (it matters among some crowds), secure, and easy to use. Firefox's success is not about innovation imho, it's just about having a good solid product.
While I can understand your arguement and I agree with you to a point. What can you really do to make a word processor new and innovative? It's a pretty simple idea... you write text, it helps you format it. There aren't a whole lot of ways to do that. The only thing that I could see being useful is some sort of support for LaTeX and a better method of applying styles. It would also be nice if the interface wasn't as drab as it is, but I'm sure that doesn't rank very high on the to-do list.
Those supported versions are the latest point release. Why should they be continuing to provide security updates to previous updates? Would you complain if one security update required another to be able to install? It's not like you have to pay for 10.3.9. If you're going to complain, then complain about the broken SSL connections.
Well, you're a little bit off there. HTTP was never Hyper Text Transfer Protocol. It's HyperText Transfer Protocol. Subtle, but it makes a big difference.
In computing, hypertext is a user interface paradigm for displaying documents which contain automated cross-references to other documents called hyperlinks. Selecting a hyperlink causes the computer to display the linked document within a very short period of time.
A document can be static (prepared and stored in advance) or dynamically generated (in response to user input). Therefore, a well-constructed hypertext system can encompass, incorporate or supersede many other user interface paradigms like menus and command lines, and can be used to access both static collections of cross-referenced documents and interactive applications. The documents and applications can be local or can come from anywhere with the assistance of a computer network like the Internet. The most famous implementation of hypertext is the World Wide Web.
The term "hypertext" is often used where the term hypermedia would be more appropriate.
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Censorship would be making the content unavailable. They're simply bringing more relevent content to the top of the search, which is what a search engine is supposed to do in the first place. If yoou want what's considered to be spam, hit next a few times.
Well, one thing you have to consider, is you seem like you do a bit more than the average user. How many different programs do you have on the dock? I personally have about 10 - 15 programs that I launch almost every time I sit down on the computer. Those applications fill my dock all the time. The rest I just leave in the apps folder. I think you're right that there needs to be some sort of solution for people who use as many different programs as you, but, again, I love the main idea of the dock. A friend of mine showed me quicksilver the other day, and it looks interesting. I'll have to play with it some more.
I have to disagree on the dock issue. What exactly is it that you find to be such a problem with it? I love the idea of an integrated launcher / manager. Both are right there in a convenient location, but the screen real-estate that it takes up is minimal. Every once in a while I'll have to go into the hard drive to launch an app if I don't have it on the dock, but even then, it's still pretty quick. The shortcuts on the side of the finder window have definately made things a lot easier since panther came out. I think the problem many people (not saying you specifically) have with the dock is just that it's a different way of working with a computer. That can be really annoying until you get used to it. Personally I used to curse constantly that Macs did things strangely. Keyboard shortcuts being different, etc. But, now that I've gotten used to it, I find myself wishing I could switch them on my PC.
I know you've talked about that before, but I forget, is launchd open source? I thought I remembered talk in one of your previous posts about sharing it with linux distrobutions but without a very nice welcome.
I hope you have a roll cage installed in that car of yours, otherwise that 5 point harness is a death trap. If you roll a car with one of those and you don't have a roll cage, the car crushing in will effectively behead you. With a normal 3-point belt, your body is able to bend and avoid much of the force, hence the reason for their use in automobiles.
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Ugh, those plastic mousepads were a horrible idea anyway. They don't work very well and are just generally uncomfortable imho. I'm much more satisfied with the cloth type.
How many computer users do you think actually know anything about this stuff? My shop does exactly the same thing. We have had customers in the past who asked us not to install the software, so, of course, we didn't. The vast majority, however, just wants us to "clean that damned thing up." In this case, we do whatever is necessary to clean the computer up.
Does your mechanic need to get your consent before each process that he goes through to fix your car? No, you take it there, tell them to do what it takes to get it working unless it will cost too much. That's exactly how it works fixing computers. If we had to get consent before every single action repairing computers, we'd be on the phone so much that we'd never get anything done.
Oh, and for those who say computer stores need the revenue and thus will not provide education and good software to keep the computer clean, you are very much off base. I HATE seeing a computer come back after it leaves the store. It's a complete pain in the ass to get rid of all this junk. Besides the annoyance with it, once a computer has been touched by us, the customer believes that anything that goes wrong afterwards is our fault. So, when computers come back in in a short period of time (no matter how stupid the end user or what they've done) we often end up repairing them again for free. That marks a major loss of revenue if it happens too often, so we definately make sure to tell them how to keep their computer clean. Unfortunately it's a very hard thing to do.
Thanks for the warning, but alas you were correct. Slashdot should have a pdf warning for links like Google does. It really wouldn't be that difficult. I'd try to work it out myself, but frankly I'm a bit worried about the patch submission process to slashcode. Besides... would it ever be implemented?
You forgot to mention the magic ability to actually run and function correctly with a limited user account. Try that on windows and you'll have an aneurism within an hour.
Well, that "Pretty GUI" allows me to run Photoshop. That's enough to sell me. Now there's a bonus in that it looks nice and that keyboard shortcuts and a lot of application functionality are almost completely standardized accross the platform. In short, it's a kick ass operating system. Let me know when linux can run Photoshop (not GIMP, don't even try to tell me that it's the same thing) and look decent with extra usability features like Expose. At that point, I'd be happy to switch to linux on my desktop. Unfortunately, that's a long way off.
Also, what the hell is wrong with a user interface that looks nice as long as it functions well. I'm all about function over form, but if you can have both, then great! It's nice to work on a system that looks decent. It's just another small thing to help brighten up my day just a little bit.
Damn, you took a good joke and just slaughtered the shit out of it.
Well, It definately existed.
I can remember watching it on Nickelodeon when I was about 7 or so.
I don't really think that it can be denied that it constitues a form of advertising. It is, however, a very non-invasive form and one that I really have no problem with. It's when this type of thing is thrown in my face that it bothers me.
Give 1964 a try. Also, you might want to try a different video plugin. There are quite a few available.
I hereby award you a virtual medal for the best schrodinger's cat reference viewed by spectre_240sx.
Agreed. I actually wouldn't have much problem with a "legit" spyware program. As long as I knew what it did, could remove it whenever I felt like it and knew that it wouldn't corrupt my system, it might be worth trading that for certain thigns.
Out of curiosity, was it you that found that or had you seen it elsewhere? I'm just wondering how long people sit on that site looking for strange things.
ahh, good old quake. I still remember the day I finally became a LPB :).
How many people really need to worry about that, though? In a server, yes, it makes a big difference. Beyond that, though, I can't think of a scenario where it would really cause a problem. Maybe for thin clients, I guess... Most workstations just don't do enough network traffic to make that a large issue, though.
Compelling I'll grant you, but what was innovative about Firefox? Tabbed browsing was already in Opera and Safari. Not falling victim to spyware doesn't count as innovation for me either; it's just how things should work. In my eyes, what Firefox had / has going for it is that it's stable, standards complient (it matters among some crowds), secure, and easy to use. Firefox's success is not about innovation imho, it's just about having a good solid product.
While I can understand your arguement and I agree with you to a point. What can you really do to make a word processor new and innovative? It's a pretty simple idea... you write text, it helps you format it. There aren't a whole lot of ways to do that. The only thing that I could see being useful is some sort of support for LaTeX and a better method of applying styles. It would also be nice if the interface wasn't as drab as it is, but I'm sure that doesn't rank very high on the to-do list.
Honestly, who throws a shoe?
Those supported versions are the latest point release. Why should they be continuing to provide security updates to previous updates? Would you complain if one security update required another to be able to install? It's not like you have to pay for 10.3.9. If you're going to complain, then complain about the broken SSL connections.
Censorship would be making the content unavailable. They're simply bringing more relevent content to the top of the search, which is what a search engine is supposed to do in the first place. If yoou want what's considered to be spam, hit next a few times.
Well, one thing you have to consider, is you seem like you do a bit more than the average user. How many different programs do you have on the dock? I personally have about 10 - 15 programs that I launch almost every time I sit down on the computer. Those applications fill my dock all the time. The rest I just leave in the apps folder. I think you're right that there needs to be some sort of solution for people who use as many different programs as you, but, again, I love the main idea of the dock. A friend of mine showed me quicksilver the other day, and it looks interesting. I'll have to play with it some more.
Good to know. Thanks for the tip :)
I have to disagree on the dock issue. What exactly is it that you find to be such a problem with it? I love the idea of an integrated launcher / manager. Both are right there in a convenient location, but the screen real-estate that it takes up is minimal. Every once in a while I'll have to go into the hard drive to launch an app if I don't have it on the dock, but even then, it's still pretty quick. The shortcuts on the side of the finder window have definately made things a lot easier since panther came out. I think the problem many people (not saying you specifically) have with the dock is just that it's a different way of working with a computer. That can be really annoying until you get used to it. Personally I used to curse constantly that Macs did things strangely. Keyboard shortcuts being different, etc. But, now that I've gotten used to it, I find myself wishing I could switch them on my PC.
I know you've talked about that before, but I forget, is launchd open source? I thought I remembered talk in one of your previous posts about sharing it with linux distrobutions but without a very nice welcome.
I hope you have a roll cage installed in that car of yours, otherwise that 5 point harness is a death trap. If you roll a car with one of those and you don't have a roll cage, the car crushing in will effectively behead you. With a normal 3-point belt, your body is able to bend and avoid much of the force, hence the reason for their use in automobiles.