Their proof is meaningless specifically because there is no "Oprah" browser - this means that any detection mechanism that they encountered treated "Oprah" UA as IE6. I cannot think of any other MSIE-pretenders off the top of my head, but if there are known ones out there, I am sure MSN would have sent these browsers the "generic" stylesheet as well.
This is a terrible argument. I don't know how much of what you said earlier in your post is true, but you definitely contradict yourself in the end. You say that MSN classifies browsers into IE, Moz, and Other. You say that Opera just falls into the Other category. Fine, that's ok. But then you say that Oprah doesn't exist, so it get's IE. Well, if it doesn't exist, then wouldn't it fall into Other?
And further, MSN should have good faith enough to say that if a browser tells me it's IE6, then it must want the IE6 page REGARDLESS of what else it may claim to be (since IE6 technology would _obviously_ be the best, eh?)
I can't imagine what this world will be like when having unprotected sex with multiple partners may mean that you get a life-saving virus! Count me in!
Yea, seems like a great idea... until you have every _OTHER_ std.
Is it possible that this isn't such a bad deal? Some people are arguing that you pay so much money and still have to buy the cd's in the end, but that's no different than, say, xm radio. As a subscriber to XM radio (which I love) I feel like $3 a month for access to unlimited songs isn't so bad, even if you end up with nothing.
HOWEVER. I for one think Linux has a long way to go before it can be used be Joe and Jane CompUSA customer. Simple things are missing from many distros that end up requireing extensive work to add. Untill the end user dosn't need to mess around in the kernel code it will not be acceptable. For example. I'm building a PPTP server...
I agree with a lot of what you say, but your example is not very good. Joe and Jane CompUSA customer have no desire whatsoever to build a PPTP server, making your example irrelevant. If you asked them to do that in Windows, they're response would be the exact same as in linux: "A what?"
That's the thing is that to do most "average" things, you DON'T need to mess around with the kernel.
That said, I still don't think that your average Joe is ready for GNU/Linx, but it's close.
...and the built-in firewall prevents it too. Two layers of defense.
That's under the assumption that you're running XP. Win 2000 doesn't have that extra layer of prevention. I do agree that if the patch's been out for a while, it's your own fault when something like this goes down. But you still shouldn't unjustly accuse somebody of double-bonering.
That's a valid point. And I agree that it's not fair that there isn't a legal way to watch DVDs under Linux (except through something like vm ware).
But just for the sake of argument, you didn't buy the DVD thinking about that. There's a difference between paying twice for something and paying for the equipment for which to use something. And you could say "well, I own the equipment" but the fact is that even with Windows' licensed players you have to pay for the software in addition to the equipment. It's lose/lose.
I don't want you to get me wrong, I agree that you get the shaft. However, that doesn't make it legal. I know that what I'm about to say won't affect you, but if you were seriously concerned about the legality of things then buying a cheap dvd player for about the same price as a commercial (licensed) dvd player.
That's exactly the attitude that has lead us to where we are now with this, and all of the other DMCA issues. "Why should I pay for it when I can just get it for free?" Because it's illegal. "Just because I know that I can get it for free, and I'm not _stupid_ enough to pay for it doesn't make it illegal." Yes it does!
Guy 1: Where were you last night? I tried to call you.
Guy 2: Dude, I was just hanging out by myself and up comes Koolio. And you know how he's always all "hey, you probably want a beer, don't you?" Well, to make a long story short, I woke up naked on the floor and Koolio was next to me wearing my shirt...
gmail would be parsing private emails that are sent to your email address and targeting ads to you based on the keywords it selects.
Wouldn't all of your ads eventually become things for online pharmacies, etc. then? That would be really annoying, since all the spam you got would make all of your Google ads like spam, so you've got more spam!
thx alot...now I can't use toilet paper....gotta find some leaves from now on.
I don't see how this will affect your toilet paper usage. Sony did not announce that all paper will now be used for data storage. At least I hope not, I didn't exactly RTFA...
The goal of the game should nopt be to make the character as high level as possible.
I completely agree with this comment. However, I find that in most games you can't get through the adventure without achieving a higher level. There's not really a good solution, though. There are some people that want to play the game for a really long time, and they would certainly be unhappy if their adventure was completed so quickly.
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big routers just don't attract the babes the way I'd like.
You must be using them wrong.
Their proof is meaningless specifically because there is no "Oprah" browser - this means that any detection mechanism that they encountered treated "Oprah" UA as IE6. I cannot think of any other MSIE-pretenders off the top of my head, but if there are known ones out there, I am sure MSN would have sent these browsers the "generic" stylesheet as well.
This is a terrible argument. I don't know how much of what you said earlier in your post is true, but you definitely contradict yourself in the end. You say that MSN classifies browsers into IE, Moz, and Other. You say that Opera just falls into the Other category. Fine, that's ok. But then you say that Oprah doesn't exist, so it get's IE. Well, if it doesn't exist, then wouldn't it fall into Other?
And further, MSN should have good faith enough to say that if a browser tells me it's IE6, then it must want the IE6 page REGARDLESS of what else it may claim to be (since IE6 technology would _obviously_ be the best, eh?)
I can't imagine what this world will be like when having unprotected sex with multiple partners may mean that you get a life-saving virus! Count me in!
Yea, seems like a great idea... until you have every _OTHER_ std.
Maybe they're just reading the article?
/me tries not to laugh...
I'll probably be flamed for this, but...
Is it possible that this isn't such a bad deal? Some people are arguing that you pay so much money and still have to buy the cd's in the end, but that's no different than, say, xm radio. As a subscriber to XM radio (which I love) I feel like $3 a month for access to unlimited songs isn't so bad, even if you end up with nothing.
Just my $.02
I've looked for a long time and can't not figure it out. How 'bout a hint?
HOWEVER. I for one think Linux has a long way to go before it can be used be Joe and Jane CompUSA customer. Simple things are missing from many distros that end up requireing extensive work to add. Untill the end user dosn't need to mess around in the kernel code it will not be acceptable. For example.
I'm building a PPTP server...
I agree with a lot of what you say, but your example is not very good. Joe and Jane CompUSA customer have no desire whatsoever to build a PPTP server, making your example irrelevant. If you asked them to do that in Windows, they're response would be the exact same as in linux: "A what?"
That's the thing is that to do most "average" things, you DON'T need to mess around with the kernel.
That said, I still don't think that your average Joe is ready for GNU/Linx, but it's close.
That's under the assumption that you're running XP. Win 2000 doesn't have that extra layer of prevention. I do agree that if the patch's been out for a while, it's your own fault when something like this goes down. But you still shouldn't unjustly accuse somebody of double-bonering.
Customer walks into wallmart
Why would a place named "wallmart" sell condoms and superlube?
(not trying to be a spelling nazi, just going for the cheap laugh...)
That's a valid point. And I agree that it's not fair that there isn't a legal way to watch DVDs under Linux (except through something like vm ware).
But just for the sake of argument, you didn't buy the DVD thinking about that. There's a difference between paying twice for something and paying for the equipment for which to use something. And you could say "well, I own the equipment" but the fact is that even with Windows' licensed players you have to pay for the software in addition to the equipment. It's lose/lose.
I don't want you to get me wrong, I agree that you get the shaft. However, that doesn't make it legal. I know that what I'm about to say won't affect you, but if you were seriously concerned about the legality of things then buying a cheap dvd player for about the same price as a commercial (licensed) dvd player.
That's exactly the attitude that has lead us to where we are now with this, and all of the other DMCA issues. "Why should I pay for it when I can just get it for free?" Because it's illegal. "Just because I know that I can get it for free, and I'm not _stupid_ enough to pay for it doesn't make it illegal." Yes it does!
it was filmed in Canada, most in Toronto, how much quality can you REALLY get?
So you're saying we should blame...
But seriously folks, is anyone really gonna weep over the loss of another Kevin Sorbo show?
I thought about weeping. But Kevin Sorbo is a phoenix, sure to rise again. This is the hope that keeps me going. [/sarcasm]
Dude, after drinking all that beer, and you really have to piss
I think that a roamining urinal-bot would be cool! Or even better, a roaming urinal-bot with attitude.
"Ahh, urinal-bot... just what I needed. [unzip, sound of water] HEY! Where are you going, I'm still... GoInG!?"
I only watch 1960's Italian westerns...
Italian westerns? Ohh, you mean easterns...
"We ran a story on a this a few days ago." What's a "this" ?
It makes more sense if you read it like Mario would.
why not send it down to in-building vending machine
You'd get lost of thirsty toughs hanging out by the vending machine. "Here he comes! Shh! Shh! Ok... on my count..."
does it clean up the barf also?
Guy 1: Where were you last night? I tried to call you.
Guy 2: Dude, I was just hanging out by myself and up comes Koolio. And you know how he's always all "hey, you probably want a beer, don't you?" Well, to make a long story short, I woke up naked on the floor and Koolio was next to me wearing my shirt...
gmail would be parsing private emails that are sent to your email address and targeting ads to you based on the keywords it selects.
Wouldn't all of your ads eventually become things for online pharmacies, etc. then? That would be really annoying, since all the spam you got would make all of your Google ads like spam, so you've got more spam!
Bah!
>> Just unplug your PC from the internet
> umm no connections = No service, therefore sucessful DoS
- You're fired!
- Fired?! You can't fire me, I quit!
"Respect" has never paid the bills.
Maybe he was thinking of beef?"Respect" does not allow you to drive a convertible.
"Respect" is not for dinner.
No matter how well the software is written, the real question is: Will it help me get a chick in the pub?
Feature request: Come home with me, you're drunk
I can turn off the TV whenenver I want.
Maybe later...
thx alot...now I can't use toilet paper....gotta find some leaves from now on.
I don't see how this will affect your toilet paper usage. Sony did not announce that all paper will now be used for data storage. At least I hope not, I didn't exactly RTFA...
The goal of the game should nopt be to make the character as high level as possible.
I completely agree with this comment. However, I find that in most games you can't get through the adventure without achieving a higher level. There's not really a good solution, though. There are some people that want to play the game for a really long time, and they would certainly be unhappy if their adventure was completed so quickly.