If cars can run, they can break speed limits. If computers can run, they can copy data.
You can't legislate a technological enforcement of copyright laws any more than you can legislate a technological enforcement of traffic laws.
This is not a question of legislating crime and punishment, like Prohibition in the US in the 1920s, or the current War On Drugs, or compaign contributions, or bribery or cheating on taxes. The CBDTPA is an attempt at legislating a technological enforcement of a law. It is impossible. There is no compromise (Only be preggers on Thursday, ok?) and there is no alternative (How about being pregant in your neck instead of belly?).
If you can't understand that, how in the Sam Hill do you expect to get it across to your congresscritter?
Neither read the review, as the other (so far) responses have shown. It's bad enough posting without reading, we've all come to expect that, but to moderate without reading? Bunch of brain damage floating around the net, that's for sure.
Camper shell and lumber rack and trailer for the pickup. Matching luggage and clothing for the car.
Of course the trailer hitch is an M$ standard, not quite the same as other hitches.
And the tires are just a little bit off the wheel standard, so you have to buy M$ rims if you want replacements. Ditto for the wheel bolt pattern, and they hide it beneath lock and key, so it violates the DMCA to try to copy it.
Every time you turn on the radio, it restores all the initial M$ presets, loses yours, and hits you with an upgrade commercial -- "Press 1 to buy leather seats".
Sheepskin seat covers? Each model changes various things.
They are locking themselves into their corner. Go back and look at how Unix and MSDOS started. Unix started on expensive time sharing machines, where self protection and security were necessary, multiuser and multitasking from the start. It also ran on different machines. MSDOS started on dinky machines where there was no concept of sharing the machine, thus no security, no multitasking. The hardware grew up to match Unix, whereas MSDOS never grew up to match the hardware.
In spite of all the cruft they've grafted on Windows doesn't, and never will, have the flexibility of Unix.
Plus they have branded themselves so much as the the king of the desktop that they have no other image.
And plus they have branded themselves as terrible partners. Look at all the licensing suqablles, not just with auditing schools, but also doubling the licensing costs for business, other audit raids, and so on.
Do you remember several years ago when the mobile phone companies banded together (Symbian?) precisely because they did not want M$ in their sandbox? Because they were afraid of M$ not playing nice.
Same thing with TV set top box manufacturers. M$ spent a fortune just to get them to promise to look at their code, I think only one bit, and they later dropped it because M$ was so late.
X-box disappoints. Pocket PC sales disappoint. They can't get out of their corner..NET is a vague buzzword with no meat yet, and not many people fooled so far.
In other words, M$ have painted themselves into a corner of their own choosing. If they were smart, they'd use the antitrust trial as an excuse to totally revamp their business, and go forward. But they are so arrogant and greedy and shortsighted that they are just using it to apply ever more coats of paint around their corner.
At some point, I bet in 5 years or so, they will find themselves locked out of every market except the desktop, which will not only have become a amrginless commodity, but will also have been invaded successfully by Linux.
That's how I think they will die. Time will tell:-)
Corporations just pass it on to their customers. If the government (ie, ME, MY taxes) pays for some something, I want MY say. Corporations have no right to use MY software MY taxes paid for without passing on the source to their own customers. If they want to use MY software they can pay ME back in kind.
This applies to a zillion other things too. I am really tired of universities patenting something that MY taxes paid for, then making money off royalties that I end up paying to some corporation. If some researcher uses a government (ie, MY taxes) grant to discover something, then it's MY discovery too. If researchers want to patent something or otherwise own it, they can do the research on their own time and own dime. NOT MINE.
What's the next step after requiring Passport for online services? Duhh, requiring online services. Duhh, next step, duhh, like, you HAVE to use Passport or you go to jail for not paying income taxes, not paying property taxes, not reporting for jury duty, not registering for the draft, not paying speediing tickets,...
Next time, try THINKING about what you have allegedly read. Or, wait a minute, I get it. You said your five year old has better reaidng skills, not you. I get it! You didn't read it, did you? You are basing your complaint on what your five year old said! Duhh, joke's on me!
To a first approximation, mainstream medecine has been peer reviewed, and alternative medecine hasn't. The only way for alternative medecine to become mainstream is to be peer reviewed, at which point it either fails and remains alternative, or it passes and becomes mainstream.
Isn't it funny how all the alternative medecine backers want it accepted without being peer reviewed? Quite interesting...
That's their target, so easy to use does not mean easy to learn or easy to retrain, it means easy to switch out from under over the weekend and have as little fuss as possible from the users who don't give a crap about M$ being a monopoly and evil because they have a stupid shipping clerk job to do and JUST WANT NO HASSLE!!!
How about "public" land? The equivalent of public domain is first come first server, squatters welcome, take what you want, no accounatbility.
The equivalent of GPL is take only pictures, leave only footprints.
The mining corps certainly like the public domain attitude.
Seems to me, my tax dollars paid for it, I see no reason why anyone should get it with no accountability. If some company wants to use something my tax dollars paid for, they can damn well pay back in kind.
All computer programs in slot machines and such are submitted (source, *source*) to some state agency, who examine the code to make sure it has no backdoors. One enterprising examiner noriced that a certain blackjack game did not reinitialize its random seed. He copied the random number generator code to his laptop, sat in a bar with a cell phone listening to his buddy report what cards came up, and within a short time knew what to play to win.
Bureaucracies move slowly. The DMCA came into being in 1998 I think, and only now is Europe looking into their own version. The proposed SSSCA has an 18 month waiting period, I think. It would probably take another year or two for the government agency to propose rules if industry doesn't. Then there will be court fights. Meanwhile, the ugly truth will gradually leak to the mainstream press, and the hideous implications come to light. I doubt the implications would be ignored at that point. Instead, the damned law will be repealed and some sanity restored, and Hollywood will be exposed like the fools they are, just as they were for not liking reel-to-reel, cassettes, VCRs, etc. And I see this as the last of those battles -- any new copying technology from now on will be computer based, and tough bananas for Hollywood.
It will be an interesting few years. I would not be surprised if Hollywood wakes up at some point and waters down the SSSCA just because they too will begin to see the collapse of IP if they push it to the max.
It's also impossible
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This SSSCA is certainly legislatable, but hardly enforceable. Ya can't stop people from owning compilers. The US IT economy would stifle itself so fast that foreign heads would spin, no other country would enact similar legislation, and the US IT infrastructure would collapse. That's IFF they actually tried to enforce such legislation.
I do not fear this legislation. Part of me hopes the bozos actually pass it and enforce it, even though it would make me a criminal, just for the sheer fun of watching all the resultant confusion build up as various deadlines approach.
I gather one of the goals for terrorists from Timothy McVeigh to al Qaeda is to sow so much confusion that the target system gets more and more restrictive and finally collapses from within. Sort of like carrying any argument to the extreme just to show how ridiculous it is. This SSSCA is just the ticket to make a mockery of all intellectual property.
Because they want the power. The internet will eventually bypass the labels entirely, with bands distributing their own music from their own web site. No middlemen whatsoever. There would still be studios, but little neighborhood ones would be fine, and no distribution networks, no scouts running around the country scoping out bands, etc. This is what the labels fear most. They want to impress people with how important they are, in inverse proportion to how important they actually are. The internet threatens to show that they are wearing no clothes, and that scares the pants off them (so to speak!)
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If cars can run, they can break speed limits. If computers can run, they can copy data.
You can't legislate a technological enforcement of copyright laws any more than you can legislate a technological enforcement of traffic laws.
This is not a question of legislating crime and punishment, like Prohibition in the US in the 1920s, or the current War On Drugs, or compaign contributions, or bribery or cheating on taxes. The CBDTPA is an attempt at legislating a technological enforcement of a law. It is impossible. There is no compromise (Only be preggers on Thursday, ok?) and there is no alternative (How about being pregant in your neck instead of belly?).
If you can't understand that, how in the Sam Hill do you expect to get it across to your congresscritter?
Neither read the review, as the other (so far) responses have shown. It's bad enough posting without reading, we've all come to expect that, but to moderate without reading? Bunch of brain damage floating around the net, that's for sure.
Dress her up like a choir boy!
Camper shell and lumber rack and trailer for the pickup. Matching luggage and clothing for the car.
:-)
Of course the trailer hitch is an M$ standard, not quite the same as other hitches.
And the tires are just a little bit off the wheel standard, so you have to buy M$ rims if you want replacements. Ditto for the wheel bolt pattern, and they hide it beneath lock and key, so it violates the DMCA to try to copy it.
Every time you turn on the radio, it restores all the initial M$ presets, loses yours, and hits you with an upgrade commercial -- "Press 1 to buy leather seats".
Sheepskin seat covers? Each model changes various things.
And so on
See step 2:
2. Coerce an appropriately representative set of individuals into participating in the usability test. The use of lethal force may be necessary.
Not threat -- plaiinly says use. Apparently they had cadavers doing the testing....
They are locking themselves into their corner. Go back and look at how Unix and MSDOS started. Unix started on expensive time sharing machines, where self protection and security were necessary, multiuser and multitasking from the start. It also ran on different machines. MSDOS started on dinky machines where there was no concept of sharing the machine, thus no security, no multitasking. The hardware grew up to match Unix, whereas MSDOS never grew up to match the hardware.
.NET is a vague buzzword with no meat yet, and not many people fooled so far.
:-)
In spite of all the cruft they've grafted on Windows doesn't, and never will, have the flexibility of Unix.
Plus they have branded themselves so much as the the king of the desktop that they have no other image.
And plus they have branded themselves as terrible partners. Look at all the licensing suqablles, not just with auditing schools, but also doubling the licensing costs for business, other audit raids, and so on.
Do you remember several years ago when the mobile phone companies banded together (Symbian?) precisely because they did not want M$ in their sandbox? Because they were afraid of M$ not playing nice.
Same thing with TV set top box manufacturers. M$ spent a fortune just to get them to promise to look at their code, I think only one bit, and they later dropped it because M$ was so late.
X-box disappoints. Pocket PC sales disappoint. They can't get out of their corner.
In other words, M$ have painted themselves into a corner of their own choosing. If they were smart, they'd use the antitrust trial as an excuse to totally revamp their business, and go forward. But they are so arrogant and greedy and shortsighted that they are just using it to apply ever more coats of paint around their corner.
At some point, I bet in 5 years or so, they will find themselves locked out of every market except the desktop, which will not only have become a amrginless commodity, but will also have been invaded successfully by Linux.
That's how I think they will die. Time will tell
A recession by definition is two consecutive quarters of negative growth. 6 months. Not two.
Corporations just pass it on to their customers. If the government (ie, ME, MY taxes) pays for some something, I want MY say. Corporations have no right to use MY software MY taxes paid for without passing on the source to their own customers. If they want to use MY software they can pay ME back in kind.
This applies to a zillion other things too. I am really tired of universities patenting something that MY taxes paid for, then making money off royalties that I end up paying to some corporation. If some researcher uses a government (ie, MY taxes) grant to discover something, then it's MY discovery too. If researchers want to patent something or otherwise own it, they can do the research on their own time and own dime. NOT MINE.
Reading without thinking is moronic.
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What's the next step after requiring Passport for online services? Duhh, requiring online services. Duhh, next step, duhh, like, you HAVE to use Passport or you go to jail for not paying income taxes, not paying property taxes, not reporting for jury duty, not registering for the draft, not paying speediing tickets,
Next time, try THINKING about what you have allegedly read. Or, wait a minute, I get it. You said your five year old has better reaidng skills, not you. I get it! You didn't read it, did you? You are basing your complaint on what your five year old said! Duhh, joke's on me!
To a first approximation, mainstream medecine has been peer reviewed, and alternative medecine hasn't. The only way for alternative medecine to become mainstream is to be peer reviewed, at which point it either fails and remains alternative, or it passes and becomes mainstream.
Isn't it funny how all the alternative medecine backers want it accepted without being peer reviewed? Quite interesting...
Moderation Totals: Insightful=1, Interesting=1, Total=2.
Eh? Does no one have a sense of humor any more?
That's their target, so easy to use does not mean easy to learn or easy to retrain, it means easy to switch out from under over the weekend and have as little fuss as possible from the users who don't give a crap about M$ being a monopoly and evil because they have a stupid shipping clerk job to do and JUST WANT NO HASSLE!!!
:-)
Took babies, to be exact. Did ya never read The Hobbit laddie?
How about "public" land? The equivalent of public domain is first come first server, squatters welcome, take what you want, no accounatbility.
The equivalent of GPL is take only pictures, leave only footprints.
The mining corps certainly like the public domain attitude.
Seems to me, my tax dollars paid for it, I see no reason why anyone should get it with no accountability. If some company wants to use something my tax dollars paid for, they can damn well pay back in kind.
Emacs is his baby, and I doubt very much whether either party wants it included with Windows.
All computer programs in slot machines and such are submitted (source, *source*) to some state agency, who examine the code to make sure it has no backdoors. One enterprising examiner noriced that a certain blackjack game did not reinitialize its random seed. He copied the random number generator code to his laptop, sat in a bar with a cell phone listening to his buddy report what cards came up, and within a short time knew what to play to win.
Both went to prison, as I heard it.
Which part of the anatomy are they interested in?
What the hell you want people ripping CDs and recording from the radio while driving? Why not make cassettes and burn Cds too?
IM?!? Get a grip. The driver has other things to do.
And if you claim you're thinking only of passengers, you shoulda said so, it sure doesn't sound like that in your post.
Bureaucracies move slowly. The DMCA came into being in 1998 I think, and only now is Europe looking into their own version. The proposed SSSCA has an 18 month waiting period, I think. It would probably take another year or two for the government agency to propose rules if industry doesn't. Then there will be court fights. Meanwhile, the ugly truth will gradually leak to the mainstream press, and the hideous implications come to light. I doubt the implications would be ignored at that point. Instead, the damned law will be repealed and some sanity restored, and Hollywood will be exposed like the fools they are, just as they were for not liking reel-to-reel, cassettes, VCRs, etc. And I see this as the last of those battles -- any new copying technology from now on will be computer based, and tough bananas for Hollywood.
It will be an interesting few years. I would not be surprised if Hollywood wakes up at some point and waters down the SSSCA just because they too will begin to see the collapse of IP if they push it to the max.
This SSSCA is certainly legislatable, but hardly enforceable. Ya can't stop people from owning compilers. The US IT economy would stifle itself so fast that foreign heads would spin, no other country would enact similar legislation, and the US IT infrastructure would collapse. That's IFF they actually tried to enforce such legislation.
I do not fear this legislation. Part of me hopes the bozos actually pass it and enforce it, even though it would make me a criminal, just for the sheer fun of watching all the resultant confusion build up as various deadlines approach.
I gather one of the goals for terrorists from Timothy McVeigh to al Qaeda is to sow so much confusion that the target system gets more and more restrictive and finally collapses from within. Sort of like carrying any argument to the extreme just to show how ridiculous it is. This SSSCA is just the ticket to make a mockery of all intellectual property.
The involvement which enforces copyrights and patents?
Because they want the power. The internet will eventually bypass the labels entirely, with bands distributing their own music from their own web site. No middlemen whatsoever. There would still be studios, but little neighborhood ones would be fine, and no distribution networks, no scouts running around the country scoping out bands, etc. This is what the labels fear most. They want to impress people with how important they are, in inverse proportion to how important they actually are. The internet threatens to show that they are wearing no clothes, and that scares the pants off them (so to speak!)
Please. CongressCRITTER, please.
If you can't beat them at their own game, file suit.
Seems to me Microsoft's game IS to not compete fairly, and resort to everything EXCEPT write superior products. Microsoft should be flattered.
Dr Disney I suppose :-)