If you break the law shut up about it. Seriously, people bend and break laws all the time. Good, honest people. They cheat a little on their taxes, they don't stop all the way at stop signs, maybe they visit a prostitute occasionally.
No one really cares until: 1) The problem becomes extreme - instead of going 5 miles/hour over the speed limit you go 25 over. 2) You trumpet your illegalities all over the place.
If a sysadmin at the NY Times had received a discreet phone call from Lamo they would have had the option to ignore the whole situation and just quietly fix the problem. Instead they got a phone call from a reporter who was about to write a news piece on how this guy broke into their network.
I'm not saying that they were right, just that it's understandable and Lamo shot himself in the foot with his lack of discretion. I learned this same lesson in high school when I wrote a creative writing paper that was so bloody offensive that I had to have a conference with my parents, the principle, the teacher and the school psychologist. My teacher told me in private that he wouldn't have done anything but make me re-write the paper but since I showed it to a bunch of people (whose parents called in) he had no choice.
"ditching Sun's computer systems, the equivalent of Ferraris, for cheaper boxes from Dell, Hewlett-Packard or IBM that run Linux, the equivalent of Fiats."
As someone who works in an ISP that is almost entirely Sun I believe the correct analogy would be a Rolls-Royce. Sun boxes, in my experience, are not really that fast for the money, but the quality of them is undeniable. Once you go through the pain of setting them up (Solaris=least fun Unix IMO), they sit there running for a decade. Very nice, but not exactly Ferraris.
Linux on i386, depending on the admin's skill, I would put more along the lines of a nice VW Jetta or Toyota. Stable, quick, cheap, more than enough for most people.
Ok, so first of all we're paying to download music in a lossy format, so no matter what it will never sound as good as a CD. Fine, I don't usually notice and most others don't either. But to be honest $.99/track is still too expensive to make me bite. At this point I can still dl songs or simply borrow 50 CDs from my friends and rip them all in one afternoon. So when they should be lowering the price they raise it? Greedy and short-sighted, which is to say business as usual.
BTW, does the fact that *all* of these online stores are using almost the exact pricing strike anyone as suspicious? Considering that the RIAA got popped for price fixing already I don't trust them at all.
Choice quotes from the article: "The music companies are reluctant to talk openly about their wholesale-pricing strategies, but they are quick to blame the retailers for higher prices (in online stores)."
So the record companies basically blame the retail outlets for setting their prices too low. Thnx!
"Some executives, for example, believe they should be charging a premium for the online versions of older tracks because consumers may be willing to pay more for harder-to-find material."
Blech. So much for music being an art form. I'm gonna go sit in a dark closet for an hour now and try to forget these scumbags exist.
You are absolutely not alone. I live in Southern CA with my Dutch immigrant wife and we are planning on moving to Holland in about 2 years when she finishes her bachelors degree. ESPECIALLY if Bush buys another 4 years. Violence has always been more acceptable than sex in this country and it is sick. These disgusting puritans are offended by the human body and are not hesitant to force their morals on the rest of us. The only thing new is they are now in charge of the most powerful country in history!
"Love it or leave it" is a wonderfully closed-minded viewpoint that will ensure that the US is eventually populated by no one but right-wing high school drop-outs who believe quite fervently in God.
There are very few things keeping my main desktop running windows now. One of them is the VPN client thing. Unfortunately we need some cooperation from vendors who sometimes aren't willing to release a Linux client for their VPNs. A *free* Linux client, at least free to people whose company pays for a Windoze client but want to use the Linux instead.
I'm primarily a network design/security/ops geek, if I can't open a Visio doc I'm screwed. Also, if I can interface with that horrific beast that is our Exchange server with something open source please let me know.
Those are the three things holding me back in the workplace. As Gillmor wrote though, I'm optimistic about the community getting this solved.
Agreed. At this point we don't really need more innovation from MS. What we need is a steady improvement of what they have already done. Clean up the code for speed, stability and security. Firefox is a great browser, iTunes is a great mp3 player, etc. Even some of the MS-made stuff is good like windows media player. The problem is MS doesn't make money off of patches and code audits.
Most normal people I know want to log in, work/play, then leave and live their lives, they aren't waiting for MS to define a new hobby or lifestyle for them.
Ashcroft is a moron. He views the world through the suspicious eyes of a policeman. Him and his president (not mine, I, like most of the country, did not vote for him) are as short-sighted as they are destructive. How on earth is making the whole world hate America making us safer? As previous posts have said, if someone wants to get into the country they can simply cross over via the LONGEST UNGUARDED BORDER IN THE WORLD from Canada. This is yet another power grab by a power-hungry, corrupt and illegitimate regime.
The days of building big old walls to keep people out are over. Bush and his cronies would do a lot better to spend that effort and money on improving the world relations that they are actively severing, not to mention fixing problems that kill far more Americans every year than terrorism, like car accidents and cancer.
This administration is an embarrassment and is turning us into a rogue state. 4 more years of Bush and it won't be safe for Americans to travel.
Walmart is a behemoth. This is a good day for Linux, even if the systems are less than what we would build ourselves from scratch. But think of the starving Liberal Arts student who just needs to type up papers and screw around online. This is a good deal. The $300 one is tempting just as a tinker-toy, to see what it can do.
Remember how Walmart changed the landscape of bar codes on products? Having them onboard is just one step toward breaking down the Redmond monopoly. A small step perhaps, but noteworthy.
So putting our money where our mouths are.... If one geek buys one of these boxes and demos it for his/her parents, friends, fellow students, or cult, it could convince some noob that they can use Linux, not just M$. Aside from us buying these, we can get others to buy them and prove Linux is viable. Get the ball rolling!
Maybe I'm missing something, but hasn't the anti-virus company been deliberately marketing a product based on lies? In the US we call that false advertising, not sure what the French call it. Can the consumers of this software take legal action against the company now since it has been proven to not work as advertised?
This kind of bullshit makes me want to go to law school and become a judge so I can point at the plaintiff's lawyer trying to confuse me with the technical details I'm not expected to understand and yell, "SHENANIGANS!". Then have officer Barbrady wack the son of a bitch with a broomstick.
M$ gets sued for including a browser in it's OS, then it gets slapped with a heavy fine for including a media player in its OS. Now M$ is going to try to out-position google by including a search engine in the OS?
This seems like exactly the type of behavior that the EU will shut them down again for, don't they learn? Then again I guess they could just release the search engine in the US version since our govt doesn't give a shit about consumers.
What's the crap? Linux is based on Unix and is taking market share away from expensive proprietary Unices like solaris. Otherwise Sun wouldn't be selling Linux on Intel boxes.
If you are going to split the "what is Unix" hair then I bow out already because legal semantics bore me.
What file format do Music Downloads come in? Music Downloads from Walmart.com are 128-bit WMA files. The WMA format allows record companies to protect their music by using Digital Rights Management (DRM) encryption. This means that music downloads are legal, safe, and easy to use. The 128-bit WMA files also offer superior sound quality.
So you have to use Windows, accept DRM, and pay for a lossy song format? I'm gonna have to quote Triumph The Insult Comic Dog here, "Hear that? That is the sound of no one giving a shit."
Hell at this point I think Monica Lewinsky should be president and Bush should start his own line of perfume. I haven't smelled that crap she is peddling but it can't be worse than what he is happily flinging in our collective face.
If the govt (specifically that group of old nags in the FCC and their ilk) can identify all pr0n at the flick of a wrist (pun!) then *controlling* that traffic is much easier than it currently is. Think I'm being paranoid? Well that's what happens when you have a president who wants to hold prayer circles in the oval office; you start to worry about your right to enjoy sin and debauchery.
This is a pipe dream. Big money is dug into the internet like a tick; there is no going back. And as much as I'd like to blame AOL and their ilk, I have to admit enjoying the ability to buy a video, book and a jacket without leaving my chair (bought that online too). If you have bought anything online then you have contributed to what the internet is today.
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If you break the law shut up about it. Seriously, people bend and break laws all the time. Good, honest people. They cheat a little on their taxes, they don't stop all the way at stop signs, maybe they visit a prostitute occasionally.
No one really cares until:
1) The problem becomes extreme - instead of going 5 miles/hour over the speed limit you go 25 over.
2) You trumpet your illegalities all over the place.
If a sysadmin at the NY Times had received a discreet phone call from Lamo they would have had the option to ignore the whole situation and just quietly fix the problem. Instead they got a phone call from a reporter who was about to write a news piece on how this guy broke into their network.
I'm not saying that they were right, just that it's understandable and Lamo shot himself in the foot with his lack of discretion. I learned this same lesson in high school when I wrote a creative writing paper that was so bloody offensive that I had to have a conference with my parents, the principle, the teacher and the school psychologist. My teacher told me in private that he wouldn't have done anything but make me re-write the paper but since I showed it to a bunch of people (whose parents called in) he had no choice.
"ditching Sun's computer systems, the equivalent of Ferraris, for cheaper boxes from Dell, Hewlett-Packard or IBM that run Linux, the equivalent of Fiats."
As someone who works in an ISP that is almost entirely Sun I believe the correct analogy would be a Rolls-Royce. Sun boxes, in my experience, are not really that fast for the money, but the quality of them is undeniable. Once you go through the pain of setting them up (Solaris=least fun Unix IMO), they sit there running for a decade. Very nice, but not exactly Ferraris.
Linux on i386, depending on the admin's skill, I would put more along the lines of a nice VW Jetta or Toyota. Stable, quick, cheap, more than enough for most people.
Ok, so first of all we're paying to download music in a lossy format, so no matter what it will never sound as good as a CD. Fine, I don't usually notice and most others don't either. But to be honest $.99/track is still too expensive to make me bite. At this point I can still dl songs or simply borrow 50 CDs from my friends and rip them all in one afternoon. So when they should be lowering the price they raise it? Greedy and short-sighted, which is to say business as usual.
BTW, does the fact that *all* of these online stores are using almost the exact pricing strike anyone as suspicious? Considering that the RIAA got popped for price fixing already I don't trust them at all.
Choice quotes from the article:
"The music companies are reluctant to talk openly about their wholesale-pricing strategies, but they are quick to blame the retailers for higher prices (in online stores)."
So the record companies basically blame the retail outlets for setting their prices too low. Thnx!
"Some executives, for example, believe they should be charging a premium for the online versions of older tracks because consumers may be willing to pay more for harder-to-find material."
Blech. So much for music being an art form. I'm gonna go sit in a dark closet for an hour now and try to forget these scumbags exist.
You are absolutely not alone. I live in Southern CA with my Dutch immigrant wife and we are planning on moving to Holland in about 2 years when she finishes her bachelors degree. ESPECIALLY if Bush buys another 4 years. Violence has always been more acceptable than sex in this country and it is sick. These disgusting puritans are offended by the human body and are not hesitant to force their morals on the rest of us. The only thing new is they are now in charge of the most powerful country in history!
"Love it or leave it" is a wonderfully closed-minded viewpoint that will ensure that the US is eventually populated by no one but right-wing high school drop-outs who believe quite fervently in God.
There are very few things keeping my main desktop running windows now. One of them is the VPN client thing. Unfortunately we need some cooperation from vendors who sometimes aren't willing to release a Linux client for their VPNs. A *free* Linux client, at least free to people whose company pays for a Windoze client but want to use the Linux instead.
I'm primarily a network design/security/ops geek, if I can't open a Visio doc I'm screwed. Also, if I can interface with that horrific beast that is our Exchange server with something open source please let me know.
Those are the three things holding me back in the workplace. As Gillmor wrote though, I'm optimistic about the community getting this solved.
Agreed. At this point we don't really need more innovation from MS. What we need is a steady improvement of what they have already done. Clean up the code for speed, stability and security. Firefox is a great browser, iTunes is a great mp3 player, etc. Even some of the MS-made stuff is good like windows media player. The problem is MS doesn't make money off of patches and code audits.
Most normal people I know want to log in, work/play, then leave and live their lives, they aren't waiting for MS to define a new hobby or lifestyle for them.
I thought of that first!
Ashcroft is a moron. He views the world through the suspicious eyes of a policeman. Him and his president (not mine, I, like most of the country, did not vote for him) are as short-sighted as they are destructive. How on earth is making the whole world hate America making us safer? As previous posts have said, if someone wants to get into the country they can simply cross over via the LONGEST UNGUARDED BORDER IN THE WORLD from Canada. This is yet another power grab by a power-hungry, corrupt and illegitimate regime.
The days of building big old walls to keep people out are over. Bush and his cronies would do a lot better to spend that effort and money on improving the world relations that they are actively severing, not to mention fixing problems that kill far more Americans every year than terrorism, like car accidents and cancer.
This administration is an embarrassment and is turning us into a rogue state. 4 more years of Bush and it won't be safe for Americans to travel.
I'm missing something here...
How is this different from cve.mitre.org? Seems like a re-invention of wheel.
*very* good for business.
In a pinch you can't eat your cable modem.
Walmart is a behemoth. This is a good day for Linux, even if the systems are less than what we would build ourselves from scratch. But think of the starving Liberal Arts student who just needs to type up papers and screw around online. This is a good deal. The $300 one is tempting just as a tinker-toy, to see what it can do.
.... If one geek buys one of these boxes and demos it for his/her parents, friends, fellow students, or cult, it could convince some noob that they can use Linux, not just M$. Aside from us buying these, we can get others to buy them and prove Linux is viable. Get the ball rolling!
Remember how Walmart changed the landscape of bar codes on products? Having them onboard is just one step toward breaking down the Redmond monopoly. A small step perhaps, but noteworthy.
So putting our money where our mouths are
Maybe I'm missing something, but hasn't the anti-virus company been deliberately marketing a product based on lies? In the US we call that false advertising, not sure what the French call it. Can the consumers of this software take legal action against the company now since it has been proven to not work as advertised?
This kind of bullshit makes me want to go to law school and become a judge so I can point at the plaintiff's lawyer trying to confuse me with the technical details I'm not expected to understand and yell, "SHENANIGANS!". Then have officer Barbrady wack the son of a bitch with a broomstick.
True, M$ products are entirely to brittle to be referred to as soft.
Hey if it's old growth at least any project to cut it down will have Bush's support!
M$ gets sued for including a browser in it's OS, then it gets slapped with a heavy fine for including a media player in its OS. Now M$ is going to try to out-position google by including a search engine in the OS?
This seems like exactly the type of behavior that the EU will shut them down again for, don't they learn? Then again I guess they could just release the search engine in the US version since our govt doesn't give a shit about consumers.
What's the crap? Linux is based on Unix and is taking market share away from expensive proprietary Unices like solaris. Otherwise Sun wouldn't be selling Linux on Intel boxes.
If you are going to split the "what is Unix" hair then I bow out already because legal semantics bore me.
From site:
What file format do Music Downloads come in?
Music Downloads from Walmart.com are 128-bit WMA files. The WMA format allows record companies to protect their music by using Digital Rights Management (DRM) encryption. This means that music downloads are legal, safe, and easy to use. The 128-bit WMA files also offer superior sound quality.
So you have to use Windows, accept DRM, and pay for a lossy song format? I'm gonna have to quote Triumph The Insult Comic Dog here, "Hear that? That is the sound of no one giving a shit."
Yes, but will it "deliver the votes" to Dubya in 2004?
Why does something have to relate to M$ or Windows to be news? The story has a big fat penguin next to it.
Oh man, Linux and OpenOffice in a big US company!
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It just makes me so happy
In other news, SCO does something dispicable to ruin my good mood.
Hell at this point I think Monica Lewinsky should be president and Bush should start his own line of perfume. I haven't smelled that crap she is peddling but it can't be worse than what he is happily flinging in our collective face.
If the govt (specifically that group of old nags in the FCC and their ilk) can identify all pr0n at the flick of a wrist (pun!) then *controlling* that traffic is much easier than it currently is. Think I'm being paranoid? Well that's what happens when you have a president who wants to hold prayer circles in the oval office; you start to worry about your right to enjoy sin and debauchery.
I thought BSD was going to die. Oh wait that was Apple. Or was it Sun? Wait, gaming is going to die. What were we talking about? Oh yeah Tivo.
Why are there so many ppl trying to predict the death of stuff? And why do their predictions get so much attention?
This is a pipe dream. Big money is dug into the internet like a tick; there is no going back. And as much as I'd like to blame AOL and their ilk, I have to admit enjoying the ability to buy a video, book and a jacket without leaving my chair (bought that online too). If you have bought anything online then you have contributed to what the internet is today.