For you and others like you, there are those who read through all these manuals cover to cover, figure it all out, and answer all the forum questions so that you may "google it".
"I am a Windows XP user and I must say that I am satisfied with this product as it is right now. I am not going to upgrade to Vista before we see the first, second and third wave of reactions."
This seems to be the reaction of most knowledgeable industry insiders. My question is, if everyone is going to wait, who is going to test this product out? Laughable...
Many who _Think_ they are smart, are only so in their own mind. Another's perspective may be quite different. And while I will agree there exist both "smart" and "dumb" people, I would argue that to label someone one or the other is really a matter of personal perspective and situational context.
Having said that, my point was much more along the lines of "Only dumb people think they know everything". Smart people realise their limitations.
Basically, that's why democracy sucks: people can't be bothered to be anything other than ignorant.
I would argue that democracy, by its nature, requires "specialists". Logic follows that a "specialist" is blissfully ignorant of other issues.
How can one be both an expert on radiation and the effect on populations... as well as being a top political mind... as well as being an expert stock broker... you get the idea.
We specialise in democracies because that is what is called for.
"Subscription models are a great way of doing it, esp if they give the game away, so I don't see why it's so condemned here."
Let's be realistic, MOST gamers ARE pirates, plain and simple. No matter what you do, they aren't going to pay for it if they can get it for free.
Aside from all that, try this:::
I'll pay for the game, thats fine. BUT... reduce the average cost of the game when it requires a subscription, AND give me 1-3 month trial with a money back guarantee.
IF your game is good enough to keep my interest after that... everyone wins. The BURDEN is shifted to the Dev to produce a bit of QUALITY, and my RISK of getting a DVD of "crap" is mitigated.
which I'm nearly 100% sure is an incorrect assumption.
How do you know? Where are the specifications? Who controls said specs?
My point is this is a closed system, hidden away from public view. Who REALLY knows what is being done?
Sorry, I just cannot understand how anyone raised in the UK or the US can call this anything other than the initial steps toward an extreme police-state environment.
Exactly. Do not be surprised to see this as "their" excuse for making this a reality. "The current system is broken. In order to better identify terrorists, we need to make sure every citizen carries their ID card at all times."
"how news like this might reverberate across the large communities of pseudo-science loons and snake-oil salesmen that lurk in the dark corners of the Internet"
30 million/. readers at this moment have the proverbial light bulb over head.
If we equate "Manager who buys into this crap" with the werewolf, and watch as said manager's project(s) fail miserably, in the end, the silver bullet has/will effectively done/do its job.
As more and more countries draft their own no-fly lists, such issues are likely to grow in importance and become bigger problems within the international (rather just American) political sphere
Good!!! This will eventually take care of the whole immigration debate!!
I am going to take the opposite road with relation to Ozzie. He developed LN when there were few if any standards out there. Given that, I'd say hid did a pretty good job. The tool was light years ahead of anything else out there at the time.
Not to mention he was a much younger, and dare I say "wreckless" programmer back then. Experience is now on his side. That has to count for something.
No doubt this challenge (simplyfying Microsoft) may be beyond even him, but give him his due credit.
Working in a LARGE corporate environment, I see this entire discussion as moot. Corporations are trending toward the complete elimination of GUI desktop apps in favour of RIA (Rich Internet Applications). Write them once, run them anywhere. Traditional BATCH processing is accomplished through services, daemons and objects.
Java's place in on the server. JSP is OK, but I wouldn't want to write full-blown RIA's in it. Look at FLEX or CF for your front-ends, then write the objects you need in Java to support you RIA front ends and appropriately represent your backend. J5EE with all the new Hibernate stuff, Generics, etc... as well as the stuff in the new concurrent package give you so much power and flexibility in writing FAST, solid, flexible frameworks, why would you want to use anything else.
Steve to children: "Do NOT EVER use an iPod and NEVER go to google.com
children: "No problem dad."
Steve to children: "Ok, I've got to get going to work, see you all tonight."
children:"OK dad, have a good day, and stay away from the chairs."
... Steve leaves house...
child1 to child2:"Someone should throw a chair at HIM!... Geez... what a dork... can I borrow your iPod tonight? I read about this cool new album on google while at school and I wanted to check it out."
child2 to child1:"Yeah sure... BTW.. make sure you don't use Dad's PC to do the download, he's got all that DRM **** on it. Use my laptop, and use the dual boot to linux."
child1 to child2:" Cool, thanks!"
I'm in IT, on the net daily, but I consider the web pretty much a wasteland anymore.
Sure I game from time to time, but the truth is I have found myself missing the good ol' card game around a table with a few good friends and some beer. Or the good ol' fashion monopoly/risk/chess game with the family.
I occaionally subject myself to phishing experiments by paying a few bills online, but compare the price of stamps vs. online access and THAT justification fails miserably. Discussion boards and forums are about the only real justifiable use to me these days./. and similar news aggregators are still somewhat worhtwhile, but even they are slowly becoming regurgatative(is this really a word?),
I mean, how much do I really need to get from them? Yeah, the war in Iraq is still going on, some new tech gadgets that are way too over priced have come out, and Microsoft is in court again. Just not worth it...
Frankly, I'm surprised so many people are still already online. Ths cost/benefit analysis favors foregoing it.
The fact that the MAJORITY of the Earth's population was centered in that region during the time period the article uses???
I love how one can use data to shape any point they wish to make. Hang the author for submitting flamebait trash.
Maybe it is not they who are blind?
My thoughts had always been much more inline with the parent poster and yourself than G.W and his croonies.
However, after the 2004 election, I began to wonder why so many people would vote him back in. I decided to try to be as honest as I could, and attempt a real non-partisan evaluation of the state of the world.
I took a hard cold look around at the rest of the world and all the strife. SEVERE conflict on every continent(most self-imposed). People of many different ethnicities chanting in the streets to bring down Amercia. Some of them even act on their beliefs, imagine. Burning our flags, celebrating when one of us dies. Even looking at past Olympics to see the world celebrating when we lose ANY event. We push global agendas, affecting every corner of the world. Natually, every decision we make pisses someone off. Even our allies are less and less willing to defend us and our actions. The truth in Iraq is that noone(excusing the Bathists) was really sad to see Sadaam go, but noone is going to say that, too hot of an issue, too political. A Non-muslim country meddling in the affairs of a muslim one, thats what the press latched onto. Thats what the world heard. Right or wrong, it is the case.
The world looks to America when there are problems. We are supposed to solve all their issues. Israel vs. Palestine, America is blamed. Drug pushing nazi's in afganistan blow up 3000+ U.S. citizens, we respond, and the U.S. is attacked for harsh treatment of prisoners. America trys to get countries to adopt tough regulations on fishing, in an effort to maintain world fish populations, and we are labeled as stealing from the poor.
Even when we decide to stay out of a conflict, and ask the locals to take on the responsibility, Darfour for example, the U.S. gets blamed for "not doing enough". I mean, look at the Tsunami and the earthquake in Iran. What country gave the most support for each of these disasters? The U.S. by an order of magnitude. But what was the result of that generosity? Nothing except more hate. There were people stating such insanity that they rather have died than have th U.S. help them.
Now I'm not saying whether or not we "made our own bed", the U.S. is not innocent. We have made many mistakes. But mistakes come with the territory of being a decision maker. The problem is, noone cares about all the good we try to do, they only see the bad we did to them. For whatever reasons(and there are many) we are no longer admired in the world, we are either truly hated or we are envied. So where does this leave us?
two truisms seem to ring out:
"You can never please everyone", and perhaps more importantly, "Everyone hates a winner"
Either way America moves on any issue, more enemies or, a different way to look at it, fewer friends.
Finally making this realization was like driving into a brick wall @ 100kph. We cannot be both strong and popular regardless of motive.
Yet another example of the inadequacy of the english language.
The capability to properly differentiate the several contextual meanings of the word "Free", and other such "context-based" words has always been, and always will be a problem.
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For you and others like you, there are those who read through all these manuals cover to cover, figure it all out, and answer all the forum questions so that you may "google it".
When did M$ buy Sony?
"I am a Windows XP user and I must say that I am satisfied with this product as it is right now. I am not going to upgrade to Vista before we see the first, second and third wave of reactions."
This seems to be the reaction of most knowledgeable industry insiders. My question is, if everyone is going to wait, who is going to test this product out? Laughable...
I wish I could mod you up to +10 Truthful
I think these "good Ole Irish Boyz" need to head on back down to McCarthy's buy a few more pints, and sing themselves a few ballads.
I don't think that is what I said at all.
Many who _Think_ they are smart, are only so in their own mind. Another's perspective may be quite different. And while I will agree there exist both "smart" and "dumb" people, I would argue that to label someone one or the other is really a matter of personal perspective and situational context.
Having said that, my point was much more along the lines of "Only dumb people think they know everything". Smart people realise their limitations.
Basically, that's why democracy sucks: people can't be bothered to be anything other than ignorant.
I would argue that democracy, by its nature, requires "specialists". Logic follows that a "specialist" is blissfully ignorant of other issues.
How can one be both an expert on radiation and the effect on populations... as well as being a top political mind... as well as being an expert stock broker... you get the idea.
We specialise in democracies because that is what is called for.
"Subscription models are a great way of doing it, esp if they give the game away, so I don't see why it's so condemned here."
Let's be realistic, MOST gamers ARE pirates, plain and simple. No matter what you do, they aren't going to pay for it if they can get it for free.
Aside from all that, try this:::
I'll pay for the game, thats fine. BUT... reduce the average cost of the game when it requires a subscription, AND give me 1-3 month trial with a money back guarantee.
IF your game is good enough to keep my interest after that... everyone wins. The BURDEN is shifted to the Dev to produce a bit of QUALITY, and my RISK of getting a DVD of "crap" is mitigated.
which I'm nearly 100% sure is an incorrect assumption.
How do you know? Where are the specifications? Who controls said specs?
My point is this is a closed system, hidden away from public view. Who REALLY knows what is being done?
Sorry, I just cannot understand how anyone raised in the UK or the US can call this anything other than the initial steps toward an extreme police-state environment.
Exactly. Do not be surprised to see this as "their" excuse for making this a reality. "The current system is broken. In order to better identify terrorists, we need to make sure every citizen carries their ID card at all times."
"how news like this might reverberate across the large communities of pseudo-science loons and snake-oil salesmen that lurk in the dark corners of the Internet"
/. readers at this moment have the proverbial light bulb over head.
30 million
If we equate "Manager who buys into this crap" with the werewolf, and watch as said manager's project(s) fail miserably, in the end, the silver bullet has/will effectively done/do its job.
As more and more countries draft their own no-fly lists, such issues are likely to grow in importance and become bigger problems within the international (rather just American) political sphere
Good!!! This will eventually take care of the whole immigration debate!!
I am going to take the opposite road with relation to Ozzie. He developed LN when there were few if any standards out there. Given that, I'd say hid did a pretty good job. The tool was light years ahead of anything else out there at the time.
Not to mention he was a much younger, and dare I say "wreckless" programmer back then. Experience is now on his side. That has to count for something.
No doubt this challenge (simplyfying Microsoft) may be beyond even him, but give him his due credit.
THAT is an excellent observation. So few are willing to acknowledge it or even see it. The absence of skepticism perpetuates the behavior.
"Hitler and Russia"
Huh!?! I better go re-read my history books...
Working in a LARGE corporate environment, I see this entire discussion as moot. Corporations are trending toward the complete elimination of GUI desktop apps in favour of RIA (Rich Internet Applications). Write them once, run them anywhere. Traditional BATCH processing is accomplished through services, daemons and objects.
Java's place in on the server. JSP is OK, but I wouldn't want to write full-blown RIA's in it. Look at FLEX or CF for your front-ends, then write the objects you need in Java to support you RIA front ends and appropriately represent your backend. J5EE with all the new Hibernate stuff, Generics, etc... as well as the stuff in the new concurrent package give you so much power and flexibility in writing FAST, solid, flexible frameworks, why would you want to use anything else.
"to take soil samples and collect space dust"
Ok, I agree, to an extent. But how many times do you need a damned rock to make some significant scientific statement.
I'm kinda tired of hearing:
Well, with this latest sample we discovered that there is definately dust on Mars.
Give me a break. You want probes? Fine. Give me some REAL answers with them.
Steve to children: "Do NOT EVER use an iPod and NEVER go to google.com
... Steve leaves house...
... Geez... what a dork... can I borrow your iPod tonight? I read about this cool new album on google while at school and I wanted to check it out."
children: "No problem dad."
Steve to children: "Ok, I've got to get going to work, see you all tonight."
children:"OK dad, have a good day, and stay away from the chairs."
child1 to child2:"Someone should throw a chair at HIM!
child2 to child1:"Yeah sure... BTW.. make sure you don't use Dad's PC to do the download, he's got all that DRM **** on it. Use my laptop, and use the dual boot to linux."
child1 to child2:" Cool, thanks!"
Ummmm... By the time Vista rolls out, I, and many like me will have built MANY corporate presences using this:
e x2_intro.html
http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/flex/articles/fl
MS missed the boat.
I for one think innovation has gotten out of hand.
With you 100%.
/. and similar news aggregators are still somewhat worhtwhile, but even they are slowly becoming regurgatative(is this really a word?),
I'm in IT, on the net daily, but I consider the web pretty much a wasteland anymore.
Sure I game from time to time, but the truth is I have found myself missing the good ol' card game around a table with a few good friends and some beer. Or the good ol' fashion monopoly/risk/chess game with the family.
I occaionally subject myself to phishing experiments by paying a few bills online, but compare the price of stamps vs. online access and THAT justification fails miserably. Discussion boards and forums are about the only real justifiable use to me these days.
I mean, how much do I really need to get from them? Yeah, the war in Iraq is still going on, some new tech gadgets that are way too over priced have come out, and Microsoft is in court again. Just not worth it...
Frankly, I'm surprised so many people are still already online. Ths cost/benefit analysis favors foregoing it.
The fact that the MAJORITY of the Earth's population was centered in that region during the time period the article uses???
I love how one can use data to shape any point they wish to make. Hang the author for submitting flamebait trash.
"How can they be so blind?"
Maybe it is not they who are blind?
My thoughts had always been much more inline with the parent poster and yourself than G.W and his croonies.
However, after the 2004 election, I began to wonder why so many people would vote him back in. I decided to try to be as honest as I could, and attempt a real non-partisan evaluation of the state of the world.
I took a hard cold look around at the rest of the world and all the strife. SEVERE conflict on every continent(most self-imposed). People of many different ethnicities chanting in the streets to bring down Amercia. Some of them even act on their beliefs, imagine. Burning our flags, celebrating when one of us dies. Even looking at past Olympics to see the world celebrating when we lose ANY event. We push global agendas, affecting every corner of the world. Natually, every decision we make pisses someone off. Even our allies are less and less willing to defend us and our actions. The truth in Iraq is that noone(excusing the Bathists) was really sad to see Sadaam go, but noone is going to say that, too hot of an issue, too political. A Non-muslim country meddling in the affairs of a muslim one, thats what the press latched onto. Thats what the world heard. Right or wrong, it is the case.
The world looks to America when there are problems. We are supposed to solve all their issues. Israel vs. Palestine, America is blamed. Drug pushing nazi's in afganistan blow up 3000+ U.S. citizens, we respond, and the U.S. is attacked for harsh treatment of prisoners. America trys to get countries to adopt tough regulations on fishing, in an effort to maintain world fish populations, and we are labeled as stealing from the poor.
Even when we decide to stay out of a conflict, and ask the locals to take on the responsibility, Darfour for example, the U.S. gets blamed for "not doing enough". I mean, look at the Tsunami and the earthquake in Iran. What country gave the most support for each of these disasters? The U.S. by an order of magnitude. But what was the result of that generosity? Nothing except more hate. There were people stating such insanity that they rather have died than have th U.S. help them.
Now I'm not saying whether or not we "made our own bed", the U.S. is not innocent. We have made many mistakes. But mistakes come with the territory of being a decision maker. The problem is, noone cares about all the good we try to do, they only see the bad we did to them. For whatever reasons(and there are many) we are no longer admired in the world, we are either truly hated or we are envied. So where does this leave us?
two truisms seem to ring out:
"You can never please everyone", and perhaps more importantly, "Everyone hates a winner"
Either way America moves on any issue, more enemies or, a different way to look at it, fewer friends.
Finally making this realization was like driving into a brick wall @ 100kph. We cannot be both strong and popular regardless of motive.
Yet another example of the inadequacy of the english language. The capability to properly differentiate the several contextual meanings of the word "Free", and other such "context-based" words has always been, and always will be a problem.