I won't disagree with most of what you said. But India is like most religiously diverse countries and you do have sections of the populace who can and are easily tempted to kill another section. I wish it weren't true, but it is. Though, in comparison to the US, India is much, much more diverse.
"I hope there are many eyes on this move. They plan to move pretty quickly and so people will not become quite so bored as when other such projects are projected to take 5+ years and often peter out or are otherwise persuaded not to continue.
I also find it interesting that this particular Indian state seems somewhat uncorruptable. "
I wish it were so, but you will find that the state is far from incorruptible. I used to follow the politics in both Kerala and TN (Tamil Nadu) and it is pretty disheartening. However Kerala is socialist (communist) while TN is not. And as far as I know, in India lobbying is not legal. That doesn't stop the lobbying, but makes it less blatant.
Many Linux distros are doing exactly that and that's why taking Linux down a few pegs is a necessity to MS. MS doesn't want Linux dead. They just want it to smell funny. Probably something like pee. (I keep doing that)
I don't want to badmouth any forum and I have never received rude answers. I used to use gentoo and now I use ubuntu. I found that while both forums were quite helpful in general, the gentoo forums are actually useful. Since I'm not a complete newbie, and the problems that I encounter are not trivial, I find that I really don't get much response on the Ubuntu forums for my queries. I go to gentoo forums even now.
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Microsoft is not a monopoly, it is just able to use the preferential treatment of the law better than their competitors. If you voted for the State, you are part of the reason that Microsoft has grown. Sure, some will say that they violated anti-trust laws, but those laws have enough loopholes to let any big company get around them.
Even its supporters do not dispute that Microsoft is a monopoly. Moreover, Microsoft has been convicted of abusing its monopoly, which means that it has gone over and beyond using "preferential treatment of the law". Surely breaking the law is not the same as taking advantage of it.
What is the state then to do? Fining Microsoft is an option which it has pursued. The poster contends that the step is useless because Microsoft will make the minimal number of changes to comply and that is useless. But he doesn't suggest an alternative form of punishment. In the same post he states that Microsoft is not guilty of breaking the law and that the punishment is useless and serves no purpose.
I really wonder how it got modded "Insightful". Is it because the poster also says that DMCA and copyright laws are idiotic and also proclaims that he is not a Microsoft fanboy or a troll?
You can use it anyway you like. However, when it comes to distributing it (for personal gain), you don't have carte blanche. Bear in mind that you got it for free.
I don't think anybody claims that Gentoo is a newbie distro. However, in my experience if you are interested in really learning about Linux, I have to recommend Gentoo. The documentation is very good and beats the pants out of anything else including Ubuntu which I use now. Mandrake is terrible as far as documentation goes and it drove me crazy when I had to use it over the course of a summer. While Ubuntu forums is good for newbies, I find that most of the really interesting questions I ask get responses like "Hey, I have the same problem, let me know if you find a soln." I still take recourse to the Gentoo forums, although I use Ubuntu on my laptop and desktop.
The parent is more insightful than funny. I have a really long queue on Netflix, in which I pile up movies that I want to see (independent, foreign, offbeat movies). The problem with the long queue is that I sometimes get a movie like "Fanny and Alexander", 188 mins that I want to see, but not now because I don't have the time or I don't have the mood. In this case I wait for a couple of days and if I can't see it, I rip it so that I can watch it later. However sometimes I get "La Dolce Vita", watch an hour of it, bite the bullet and send it back without even ripping it (as somebody before pointed out). Its mostly a choice between
- Do I want to watch it now. - A week later. - Not at all.
Apple happens to have an incredibly great OS and great consumer and pro apps, but when it comes to what butters Apple's bread it's all about the hardware. Apple is not, nor will it ever likely be, a software company.
Does opening the source for OS X sell more Apple hardware? Obviously not, since it allows people to use OS X on non-Apple machines. That's not in Apple's interest, and that's why they're making that more difficult to do. Apple is first and foremost a business, and no smart business would cannibalize itself to pick up a market that they don't need.
People who are dogmatic about OSS have plenty of choices in the market. Apple just isn't one of them. Somehow, I doubt Steve Jobs really loses sleep over such a small part of the market.
Then what about opening the hardware, as in, providing specs and drivers. Then people can put in linux and windows on a mac. Are they doing that? That should help them sell more hardware. I am just curious.
While I like Ubuntu, my upgrade was not so painless. In fact, since I prefer to use the console than a gui to install/upgrade, I actually did apt-get dist-upgrade on my laptop which has xubuntu, and the upgrade went smoothly. However, when I logged into Xubuntu, the upgrade didn't appear too clean. The desktop behaved different, there were 2 file managers, and some other inconsistencies. Then I discovered that my laptop wouldn't hibernate. Rather than figure out what went wrong, I installed Dapper from scratch, and I noticed that look and feel as well as desktop behaviour was better than the upgrade.
It is not required that they need to differentiate between scams and genuine mails.
If you see a mail warning you about some dire occurences with your account, don't click the link on the page. Use the browser bookmark or something to go to the account. The reason these scams succeed are because people are _also_ _lazy_.
I work in a fairly technical group, but many of my colleagues are quite ignorant about the problems of using proprietary standards (e.g., office) in their day-to-day life. When Firefox was released, I put up the copy of the New York times ad in the lounge and people noticed. I wondered if there is a similar blurb for ODF (or OpenOffice). Now seems to be the ideal time to make people aware of the choice and alternatives.
Is there a nice one-page (non-technical) write-up that clearly states why open standards (ODF) is better than closed standards controlled by evil monopolies (Microsoft's doc format)?
Mod parent a troll. While Gandhi was hardly infallible, there is little documentation to show that he hated kaffirs or was pro-apartheid. One or two isolated quotes does not a character define. An episode of Penn and Teller's show time is not "documentation".
Heck, with Ubuntu, I'm starting to use gedit more and more.
I find that very odd. I use vim myself, and I find it difficult to use other editors because of all the key bindings. Especially in vim, you find yourself typing dd or d2w or ESC+u. I use vim for editing any text file: html, tex, matlab code, etc. I've used gedit sometimes and it is often a disaster. It is not easy to switch from vim to other text editors just like that; if you can, then you are not probably using vim very often or properly.
Maybe because it's not so buggy? Whilst nothing will be bug free it's kinda moronic to see the same bullshit modded +5 funny day in day out along with the BSOD jokes in 2005 and clippy jokes. They really aren't funny to the majority of people who will find the current MS OS stuff to be pretty stable assuming their not stupid enough to open freesex.exe and whatever else. Cue for someone to tell me their stories about spontaneously combusing registries that always seem to happen to MS haters.
That is precisely why it got modded funny. Otherwise it would have been modded insightful.
Anyway it was successful 5 years ago and you admit it was buggy then.:-)
"Cryptically stating that Asia wants the U.S. to become 'the France of the 21st century,"
Wouldn't a better analogy be, "the England of the 21st century". After all we do have troops in the same cities around the world (Baghdad, Kabul) as Britain at the turn of the 20th century. We did take the position of world power from the British. Much of our common law is based from British law. But hey, the sun never sets on the British Empire....
I agree. but the UK is currently more supportive of US foreign policy than is France and it wouldn't do to ruffle feathers there.
i suppose the installation and configuration is going to be done beforehand by some experts who can tinker better with an open-source sytem. and i expect using GNOME is more or less equivalent to using OSX for a person who has not used computers.
besides, i expect linux is better suited for use on more generic hardware than osx is.
Insightful???
Give me break. who is going to switch from MAC to BSD? (unless they switched from BSD to MAC in the first place.)
Besides, think of the millions who stick with Windows...
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I think they are hoping he'll do a monkey dance or something better.
I won't disagree with most of what you said. But India is like most religiously diverse countries and you do have sections of the populace who can and are easily tempted to kill another section. I wish it weren't true, but it is. Though, in comparison to the US, India is much, much more diverse.
"I hope there are many eyes on this move. They plan to move pretty quickly and so people will not become quite so bored as when other such projects are projected to take 5+ years and often peter out or are otherwise persuaded not to continue.
I also find it interesting that this particular Indian state seems somewhat uncorruptable. "
I wish it were so, but you will find that the state is far from incorruptible. I used to follow the politics in both Kerala and TN (Tamil Nadu) and it is pretty disheartening. However Kerala is socialist (communist) while TN is not. And as far as I know, in India lobbying is not legal. That doesn't stop the lobbying, but makes it less blatant.
Many Linux distros are doing exactly that and that's why taking Linux down a few pegs is a necessity to MS. MS doesn't want Linux dead. They just want it to smell funny. Probably something like pee. (I keep doing that)
Keep doing what? Smell like pee?
I don't want to badmouth any forum and I have never received rude answers. I used to use gentoo and now I use ubuntu. I found that while both forums were quite helpful in general, the gentoo forums are actually useful. Since I'm not a complete newbie, and the problems that I encounter are not trivial, I find that I really don't get much response on the Ubuntu forums for my queries. I go to gentoo forums even now. --
Microsoft is not a monopoly, it is just able to use the preferential treatment of the law better than their competitors. If you voted for the State, you are part of the reason that Microsoft has grown. Sure, some will say that they violated anti-trust laws, but those laws have enough loopholes to let any big company get around them.
Even its supporters do not dispute that Microsoft is a monopoly. Moreover, Microsoft has been convicted of abusing its monopoly, which means that it has gone over and beyond using "preferential treatment of the law". Surely breaking the law is not the same as taking advantage of it.
What is the state then to do? Fining Microsoft is an option which it has pursued. The poster contends that the step is useless because Microsoft will make the minimal number of changes to comply and that is useless. But he doesn't suggest an alternative form of punishment. In the same post he states that Microsoft is not guilty of breaking the law and that the punishment is useless and serves no purpose.
I really wonder how it got modded "Insightful". Is it because the poster also says that DMCA and copyright laws are idiotic and also proclaims that he is not a Microsoft fanboy or a troll?
vista is very close to shipping. and there are MAJOR failings. this does not bode well. You mean "this bodes well".
You can use it anyway you like. However, when it comes to distributing it (for personal gain), you don't have carte blanche. Bear in mind that you got it for free.
I don't think anybody claims that Gentoo is a newbie distro. However, in my experience if you are interested in really learning about Linux, I have to recommend Gentoo. The documentation is very good and beats the pants out of anything else including Ubuntu which I use now. Mandrake is terrible as far as documentation goes and it drove me crazy when I had to use it over the course of a summer. While Ubuntu forums is good for newbies, I find that most of the really interesting questions I ask get responses like "Hey, I have the same problem, let me know if you find a soln." I still take recourse to the Gentoo forums, although I use Ubuntu on my laptop and desktop.
The parent is more insightful than funny. I have a really long queue on Netflix, in which I pile up movies that I want to see (independent, foreign, offbeat movies). The problem with the long queue is that I sometimes get a movie like "Fanny and Alexander", 188 mins that I want to see, but not now because I don't have the time or I don't have the mood. In this case I wait for a couple of days and if I can't see it, I rip it so that I can watch it later. However sometimes I get "La Dolce Vita", watch an hour of it, bite the bullet and send it back without even ripping it (as somebody before pointed out). Its mostly a choice between
- Do I want to watch it now.
- A week later.
- Not at all.
I hardly keep a DVD for more than a week.
Sponsoring 3 men will get you just that: 3 men.
Sponsoring 3 women will give you 3 women and 300 geeks who fancy their chances at 1:100.
Apple is a hardware company.
Apple happens to have an incredibly great OS and great consumer and pro apps, but when it comes to what butters Apple's bread it's all about the hardware. Apple is not, nor will it ever likely be, a software company. Does opening the source for OS X sell more Apple hardware? Obviously not, since it allows people to use OS X on non-Apple machines. That's not in Apple's interest, and that's why they're making that more difficult to do. Apple is first and foremost a business, and no smart business would cannibalize itself to pick up a market that they don't need. People who are dogmatic about OSS have plenty of choices in the market. Apple just isn't one of them. Somehow, I doubt Steve Jobs really loses sleep over such a small part of the market.
Then what about opening the hardware, as in, providing specs and drivers. Then people can put in linux and windows on a mac. Are they doing that? That should help them sell more hardware. I am just curious.
Aravind.
While I like Ubuntu, my upgrade was not so painless. In fact, since I prefer to use the console than a gui to install/upgrade, I actually did apt-get dist-upgrade on my laptop which has xubuntu, and the upgrade went smoothly. However, when I logged into Xubuntu, the upgrade didn't appear too clean. The desktop behaved different, there were 2 file managers, and some other inconsistencies. Then I discovered that my laptop wouldn't hibernate. Rather than figure out what went wrong, I installed Dapper from scratch, and I noticed that look and feel as well as desktop behaviour was better than the upgrade.
Dapper is good, but the upgrade was not smooth.
Oh. I thought you were going to say Nipple. Never mind.
It is not required that they need to differentiate between scams and genuine mails.
If you see a mail warning you about some dire occurences with your account, don't click the link on the page. Use the browser bookmark or something to go to the account. The reason these scams succeed are because people are _also_ _lazy_.
Hi,
I work in a fairly technical group, but many of my colleagues are quite ignorant about the problems of using proprietary standards (e.g., office) in their day-to-day life. When Firefox was released, I put up the copy of the New York times ad in the lounge and people noticed. I wondered if there is a similar blurb for ODF (or OpenOffice). Now seems to be the ideal time to make people aware of the choice and alternatives.
Is there a nice one-page (non-technical) write-up that clearly states why open standards (ODF) is better than closed standards controlled by evil monopolies (Microsoft's doc format)?
Aravind.
The folks sleeping on the streets of the Tenderloin want their WiFi!
Maybe the have-nots can charge tourists for wireless connectivity...
Mod parent a troll. While Gandhi was hardly infallible, there is little documentation to show that he hated kaffirs or was pro-apartheid. One or two isolated quotes does not a character define. An episode of Penn and Teller's show time is not "documentation".
Sheesh, he didn't even have enough time to finish compiling Gentoo once.
thats not coincidence.
Heck, with Ubuntu, I'm starting to use gedit more and more.
I find that very odd. I use vim myself, and I find it difficult to use other editors because of all the key bindings. Especially in vim, you find yourself typing dd or d2w or ESC+u. I use vim for editing any text file: html, tex, matlab code, etc. I've used gedit sometimes and it is often a disaster. It is not easy to switch from vim to other text editors just like that; if you can, then you are not probably using vim very often or properly.
If Windows is such a success, why is it so buggy?
Maybe because it's not so buggy? Whilst nothing will be bug free it's kinda moronic to see the same bullshit modded +5 funny day in day out along with the BSOD jokes in 2005 and clippy jokes. They really aren't funny to the majority of people who will find the current MS OS stuff to be pretty stable assuming their not stupid enough to open freesex.exe and whatever else. Cue for someone to tell me their stories about spontaneously combusing registries that always seem to happen to MS haters.
That is precisely why it got modded funny. Otherwise it would have been modded insightful.
Anyway it was successful 5 years ago and you admit it was buggy then. :-)
Just a small correction: you mean I fart in your general direction .
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See the løveli lakes
The wonderful telephøne system
And mani interesting furry animals
"Cryptically stating that Asia wants the U.S. to become 'the France of the 21st century,"
Wouldn't a better analogy be, "the England of the 21st century". After all we do have troops in the same cities around the world (Baghdad, Kabul) as Britain at the turn of the 20th century. We did take the position of world power from the British. Much of our common law is based from British law. But hey, the sun never sets on the British Empire....
I agree. but the UK is currently more supportive of US foreign policy than is France and it wouldn't do to ruffle feathers there.
two things.
i suppose the installation and configuration is going to be done beforehand by some experts who can tinker better with an open-source sytem. and i expect using GNOME is more or less equivalent to using OSX for a person who has not used computers.
besides, i expect linux is better suited for use on more generic hardware than osx is.
Insightful??? Give me break. who is going to switch from MAC to BSD? (unless they switched from BSD to MAC in the first place.) Besides, think of the millions who stick with Windows...