Because of all those fridges and deodorant canisters we are all going to die - in the coming superstorm.
Now if that is not enough, while we are freezing to death we will all be eaten slowly by tiny-weeny nano-bots!
Exactly!
There is so Much Fear
People *ought* to write proof-of-concept viruses and have them submitted to Symantec (and other).
Doing so - will only help Anti-Viruses companies (and the OS in question (if they care of course)) to further protect their system.
Writing a proof-of-concept virus and not making the code public is akin to notifying a security hole.
It is so friggin obvious that Anti-Viruses and Security companies produce proof-of-concept viruses themselves as part of research.
Where is the MS Bashing taking place?
Mind you I've only read 3 comments so far - so I can't say wether you are over-reacting or not.
The article in itself is just a very interesting one.
Carrying the same amount of technical curiosity (and awareness) as when proof-of-concepts viruses were written for Linux.
There is also a story going on about Symantec considering a Linux switch (I find that interesting news too). And again Slashdot does post a LOT of (shall-we-say) pro MS-articles too. I wont enumerate here, unless someone really wants me to.
Now if the bad posts upsets you - you can always filter by threshold; *sometimes* it works - I personally prefer seeing everything (-1) including ignorant/thick/mediocre posts - I find them amusing.
The hope of them releasing a Netbook Pro with EPOC just wont happen, despite the petition which began around August 2002.
And besides being a Linux convert, Sharp Zaurus can only add to my learning - so it really looks I may end up buying one instead of a say the older Netbook.
But one question is the keys. Please advise anyone - owner of a Zaurus!
They look from the images kind of hard type, I don't want to strain my fingers nor do I want to type with a toothpick.
Netbook seems very ergonomical and looks like you can type 50 words per minute - no problem.
I hope Sharp Zaurus is the same. I wanted to use a PDA as a diary (or programming platform) not just scribbling nervous acronyms on screen with a stylus.
I am a fan of AMSN myself.
Specially because it gives you the wonderful oportunity to learn TK/TCL (just a nice thought only, never get round to it)
I use to like a lot JMSN (which being Java runs on Windows).. again can learn JAVA via the source code. But for some very weird reason I never could make it run on Mandrake. Worked OK on Suse. - Not that I would go back to Suse just for one applet's sake... dread the thought!
you do not talk about Fight Club.
The second rule of Fight Club is, you do not talk about Fight Club.
I wonder if such a scenario is indeed possible. Wether you can live in a Tyler Durden's world, where not only you - but the whole world is not aware of multiple personalities. That film keep replaying in my head
How real are thing to schizzophrenics? Can they touch, can they feel the other person - do laws of physics apply?
In lucid dreams you can just about taste an ice-cream, but if you notice carefully some physics law begin breaking down.
Sometimes I ask myself many (childish) questions, but then I stop in the (superstitious) fear I may experience the answer.
I try to get the girls into Linux.
But they bluntly reply its "boring".
There technophobia is just idiotic.
We have so many great lady scientists and brilliant mathematicians - but rarely a programmer.
Why is that?
Did us geek scare you off big time?
It would be great if more ladies advocating Linux.
I am sure the boys would be very proud.
Even yesterday their hearts jumped for a second when they thought yesterday italian "Andrea" was some sexy-chick that had rewritten the kernel.
If more ladies joined Linux, LUG's would be that more worthwhile. Ladies are of course better at talking with ladies (we just drool) - so perhaps it's something they should do - go around installing Yellow Dogs on their GIRLFRIENDS instead:)
I take it you mean the shell in Linux's case is "easier" or "more visible" than in other OS'es. Why is that bad? Linux is about choice - and that IMO confers greater usability. There is a cult of Console-Followers, and a cult of Minimal-X-WindowManager.. which only adds to the greatest of Linux (making it fun, highly configurable, and coming from a veteran MS-Windows user here: WAY-MORE-USEABLE).
Its incredible how the console short-cuts many functions, and if perchance you are out in the dark (ie no Video due to installing a new graphics card).. you still have much more power than any "DOS" shell. You can send emails (Mutt/Pine), you can browse the web (Links/LYNX), hell - you can chat with your MSN/ICQ/etc buddies on a pure text console (CenterICQ), while on some another text-console (ALT+F2 to ALT+F6) you fix/do whatever you have to. So having a shell is in no-way detrimental to a user-experience but an invaluable aid.
I wonder if in Windows when you reboot as "Console Only" - if you can do all these things.
Installing is a pain
I give you that one. That is probably one feature even the most die-hard Linux fan might agree. There are advances however such as debian-based apt-get which gives you this huge library of self-configurable applications. All you have to do is type (imaginary example here!):
>apt-get install enemy-territory
Very powerful, free, and in that case I think beats Windows.. Try and download a free app for Window from download sites and you get pop-ups, you must hand your email for spam, your stuff could be bundled with spyware
In Linux - the real pain starts if you want to compile/install apps like "ardour", or "nvu" or worse "Gnome 2.6" from scratch. Then yes you are in for a MAJOR headache. Commercial software that use Loki-installers are on the right path (ie CrossOver and many games).
Antialiasing does not work
I don't know what distro you've been playing with. My fonts are much clearer/cleaner and sharper than when I had Windows XP installed. That is not only some blind comment - my friends (MS Window Users) tell me so.
I often download from e-Mule and emulated Kaaza textbooks, but again I just don't like the PDF format. But hey if that is the standard fine. What I was hoping for was a site (or ftp address) with HTML books on Pure Maths.
I mean that is what the internet was really meant for (free info, free academic material) - but we see much way too much emphasis on eBays and pr0n. It should be the other way round pure academia (huge online free Library) with the rest being but minor distractions. I guess of course, to be fair... we are what we Bookmark.
If anyone knows of more Pure Mathematic books online.
By the way Thanks for the Dedekind link!
But when I search the net (or P2P) - I find that most e-books are PDFs and I hate PDF's so much:(
I know a Maths textbook would be impossible to be done in text and HTMLing one would be way too much effort... but I am seriously averse to PDFs (maybe it's just me?) - finding them somewhat demotivating. I never go beyond page 10 - in sharp contrast with HTML or Text which I read cover to cover.
Very good advice for worm/virus writers. Will they come after you too?
With the recent success of Pateting in Europe and Microsoft weening their way into politcs ("Oireland" and also Her Majesty the Biatch) - I am sure in a near future; the SS will arrest anyone through their postings (conveniently filing it under the "Terrorism Act").
Maybe the Purchase of Novell added that extra charm. Good customer relationship. Having a download site for people to try out - that is proper - I hope they improve the customer support too. I had terrible experiences with Suse, but after Novell's acquisition I even started receiving DVD/CD evals at my office and a personal phone call from a representative. Nice one. (well on topic).
That *seems* to be a bug in their Transact-SQL Stored-Procedure. They are using a.NET component to analyse the HTTP requests and using SQL-Server to log in the results. "Too many arguments specificied" - is usually when you have a function or call expecting just A,B and C.. but more parameters say A,B,C and D,E was provided. Happens a lot with very overly complex stored-procedures or dynamically created ones.
I've never seen or came across a "Microsoft.NI" library. So I presume they are testing a new thing.
It could be error in the code, or the component itself is still buggy.
I posted a comment on BBC website - maybe its bad luck, but they *never* post my comments:(
Nevertheless some guy wrote this:
"Anyone that thinks Linux or Apple Macs are invunerable to viruses and worms really need to wake up and smell the binary. There are just as many flaws in Linux systems as Windows, and there are many Mac based viruses. There are also java-based attacks that can affect many different types of system. The only real answer is to get a firewall and antivirus system, and learn how to use it!"
Steve Lake, Reading, UK
My reply to that (unposted) was that it would be very difficult for a worm/virus to propagate under Linux. Specially if all "servers" are switched off. Simply because Linux is the opposite of Windows - there is no homogeneity. With Linux we have:
Different Kernel versions (2.2,2.4,2.6), patched versions, hardened versions
Different commercial and free distributions (Red Hat, Mandrake, Gentoo, Debian, Slackware).
Different packaging managers (rpm,apt,yum,portage,or none build from source code)
Different set of libraries (XFree w/wo Nvidia acceleration,gcc, all with different versions)
Different Window-Managers (none just console,fvwm,FluxBox,Gnome,KDE,Enlightenment)
Different mail-client - if we are assuming a mail-enabled virus here - (mutt,pine,sylpheed,evolution,kmail,web browser-clients)
And that is a small list of the differences between my Linux and someone else's. Soon we might have even different alternatives to X-window itself. Of course most seem to have Mozilla, so some common denominator is emerging. But I think most people don't use the email client (and address book).
Any biologist would reinstate that if you have a species which is highly homogeneous (and the analogy here is Windows-XP) it is in great danger of being wiped out to extiction by some common plague (worm/viruses). The thing most people hate about Linux - is what protects it from widespread attack (dependencies,lack of homogeneity)
Linux makes you more security-aware anyway. It endorses/teaches that practice instead of you just setting your (often innefectual) "Windows-Update" on auto. Ok there is no such thing as a 100% secure system, but there is something at least 10x more secure than Windows: Linux
For how much longer are you Window users going to put up with all this?
[quote] SuSE: concentrate on how this distros HQ is in Europe, like its some kind of revalation. Mention there is no downside to this distro and conclude that its only good for non-North American users. [/quote]
Ah come of it!
No downside??
Do your research - search webposts - even Amazon will do
Greedy Technical Support (2 tickets doesn't include sound issues or a second machine install)
Expensive product in comparison to others (at least in 2003)
Doesn't install properly (sound,X11) on slightly older machines (I am talking a 4 year old Dell now running Mandrake 10.0)
Crawls when installed on the laptop (with sound problems of course)[now running Gentoo]
I mean I hope it will change now Novell owns it.
It's just not a rant - but one person turned away back to Windows because of one Linux, kinda makes me angry. And I've witness, read a few that did that because of Suse. Of course I myself, kept battling trying distros after distros. Unfortunatelly Joe Public will label his first distro as "Linux is bad".
You were my intro to Linux
Nice intro affordable at $20
I never quite understood those "better than duct-tape" sayings
But hey - I suppose its some geek in-joke right?
Thanks for introducing me to Linux
You never caused me frustrations
You bugs here and there - were pretty forgiveable - If not educational
(And I still receive your Erratas !)
You are but one funky dude - with a really peculiar fashion sense
Again forgiveable - each to their own right?
I will miss you pal - truly... Never once you were pretentious
(Unlike that slimy Green Fella I had the misfortune of meeting)
I will hold to my red-box dearly - even the casing had style.
And indulge myself in fond memories of tweaking...
Slashdot Mirror
Because of all those fridges and deodorant canisters we are all going to die - in the coming superstorm.
Now if that is not enough, while we are freezing to death we will all be eaten slowly by tiny-weeny nano-bots!
Geez, when will you ever ever learn?????
Exactly!
There is so Much Fear
People *ought* to write proof-of-concept viruses and have them submitted to Symantec (and other).
Doing so - will only help Anti-Viruses companies (and the OS in question (if they care of course)) to further protect their system.
Writing a proof-of-concept virus and not making the code public is akin to notifying a security hole.
It is so friggin obvious that Anti-Viruses and Security companies produce proof-of-concept viruses themselves as part of research.
Where is the MS Bashing taking place?
Mind you I've only read 3 comments so far - so I can't say wether you are over-reacting or not.
The article in itself is just a very interesting one.
Carrying the same amount of technical curiosity (and awareness)
as when proof-of-concepts viruses were written for Linux.
There is also a story going on about Symantec considering a Linux switch (I find that interesting news too). And again Slashdot does post a LOT of (shall-we-say) pro MS-articles too. I wont enumerate here, unless someone really wants me to.
Now if the bad posts upsets you - you can always filter by threshold; *sometimes* it works -
I personally prefer seeing everything (-1) including ignorant/thick/mediocre posts - I find them amusing.
The hope of them releasing a Netbook Pro with EPOC just wont happen,
despite the petition which began around August 2002.
And besides being a Linux convert, Sharp Zaurus can only add to my learning - so it really looks I may end up buying one instead of a say the older Netbook.
But one question is the keys. Please advise anyone - owner of a Zaurus!
They look from the images kind of hard type, I don't want to strain my fingers nor do I want to type with a toothpick.
Netbook seems very ergonomical and looks like you can type 50 words per minute - no problem.
I hope Sharp Zaurus is the same.
I wanted to use a PDA as a diary (or programming platform) not just scribbling nervous acronyms on screen with a stylus.
I am a fan of AMSN myself.
.. ... dread the thought!
Specially because it gives you the wonderful oportunity to learn TK/TCL
(just a nice thought only, never get round to it)
I use to like a lot JMSN (which being Java runs on Windows)
again can learn JAVA via the source code.
But for some very weird reason I never could make it run on Mandrake.
Worked OK on Suse.
- Not that I would go back to Suse just for one applet's sake
Give it more time - it won't survive past 12 months I will bet money on it.
2. a myriad of unique console apps and tools
... ?
3. many funky minimalistic window-managers
Anyone for 4
you do not talk about Fight Club.
The second rule of Fight Club is, you do not talk about Fight Club.
I wonder if such a scenario is indeed possible.
Wether you can live in a Tyler Durden's world, where not only you -
but the whole world is not aware of multiple personalities.
That film keep replaying in my head
How real are thing to schizzophrenics?
Can they touch, can they feel the other person - do laws of physics apply?
In lucid dreams you can just about taste an ice-cream,
but if you notice carefully some physics law begin breaking down.
Sometimes I ask myself many (childish) questions,
but then I stop in the (superstitious) fear I may experience the answer.
Mind never ceases to fascinate me.
No.
.
:)
I try to get the girls into Linux.
But they bluntly reply its "boring".
There technophobia is just idiotic.
We have so many great lady scientists and brilliant mathematicians - but rarely a programmer
Why is that?
Did us geek scare you off big time?
It would be great if more ladies advocating Linux.
I am sure the boys would be very proud.
Even yesterday their hearts jumped for a second when they thought yesterday italian "Andrea" was some sexy-chick that had rewritten the kernel.
If more ladies joined Linux, LUG's would be that more worthwhile.
Ladies are of course better at talking with ladies (we just drool)
- so perhaps it's something they should do
- go around installing Yellow Dogs on their GIRLFRIENDS instead
It still has a shell ...
.. which only adds to the greatest of Linux (making it fun, highly configurable, and coming from a veteran MS-Windows user here: WAY-MORE-USEABLE). .. you still have much more power than any "DOS" shell.
..
I take it you mean the shell in Linux's case is "easier" or "more visible" than in other OS'es.
Why is that bad?
Linux is about choice - and that IMO confers greater usability.
There is a cult of Console-Followers, and a cult of Minimal-X-WindowManager
Its incredible how the console short-cuts many functions, and if perchance you are out in the dark (ie no Video due to installing a new graphics card)
You can send emails (Mutt/Pine), you can browse the web (Links/LYNX), hell - you can chat with your MSN/ICQ/etc buddies on a pure text console (CenterICQ), while on some another text-console (ALT+F2 to ALT+F6) you fix/do whatever you have to.
So having a shell is in no-way detrimental to a user-experience but an invaluable aid.
I wonder if in Windows when you reboot as "Console Only" - if you can do all these things.
Installing is a pain
I give you that one. That is probably one feature even the most die-hard Linux fan might agree. There are advances however such as debian-based apt-get which gives you this huge library of self-configurable applications.
All you have to do is type (imaginary example here!):
>apt-get install enemy-territory
Very powerful, free, and in that case I think beats Windows
Try and download a free app for Window from download sites and you get pop-ups, you must hand your email for spam, your stuff could be bundled with spyware
In Linux - the real pain starts if you want to compile/install apps like "ardour", or "nvu" or worse "Gnome 2.6" from scratch. Then yes you are in for a MAJOR headache.
Commercial software that use Loki-installers are on the right path (ie CrossOver and many games).
Antialiasing does not work
I don't know what distro you've been playing with.
My fonts are much clearer/cleaner and sharper than when I had Windows XP installed. That is not only some blind comment - my friends (MS Window Users) tell me so.
UK residents won't complain of not having a white-Xmas ever again.
Dont FlameBait him you IDIOTS.
...
He is right you sex-less Morons.
And why the Clipboard is still not working across Gnome Apps and KDE's is still a mystery.
All my fault I guess, let me try that xcutsel app again
Microsoft has been donating to poor countries such as England recently - often subverting the regional adoption to Linux.
Bribery is always an added option of course.
I often download from e-Mule and emulated Kaaza textbooks, but again I just don't like the PDF format. But hey if that is the standard fine. ... we are what we Bookmark.
What I was hoping for was a site (or ftp address) with HTML books on Pure Maths.
I mean that is what the internet was really meant for (free info, free academic material) - but we see much way too much emphasis on eBays and pr0n.
It should be the other way round pure academia (huge online free Library) with the rest being but minor distractions.
I guess of course, to be fair
If anyone knows of more Pure Mathematic books online. :( ...
By the way Thanks for the Dedekind link!
But when I search the net (or P2P) - I find that most e-books are PDFs and I hate PDF's so much
I know a Maths textbook would be impossible to be done in text and HTMLing one would be way too much effort
but I am seriously averse to PDFs (maybe it's just me?) - finding them somewhat demotivating.
I never go beyond page 10 - in sharp contrast with HTML or Text which I read cover to cover.
He is right
You anonymous idiot.
Very good advice for worm/virus writers.
Will they come after you too?
With the recent success of Pateting in Europe and
Microsoft weening their way into politcs ("Oireland" and also Her Majesty the Biatch)
- I am sure in a near future; the SS will arrest anyone through their postings
(conveniently filing it under the "Terrorism Act").
... And moderator - you geeko, go and eat cow dung ... (well offtopic)
Maybe the Purchase of Novell added that extra charm. Good customer relationship.
Having a download site for people to try out - that is proper - I hope they improve the customer support too.
I had terrible experiences with Suse, but after Novell's acquisition I even started receiving DVD/CD evals at my office and a personal phone call from a representative. Nice one. (well on topic).
Hey that was well funny !! ..
Why was he modded down ???
Mind you he is Anon so not too bad
Why be so Sauer ??
That *seems* to be a bug in their Transact-SQL Stored-Procedure. .NET component to analyse the HTTP requests and using SQL-Server to log in the results. ..
They are using a
"Too many arguments specificied" - is usually when you have a function or call expecting just A,B and C
but more parameters say A,B,C and D,E was provided.
Happens a lot with very overly complex stored-procedures or dynamically created ones.
I've never seen or came across a "Microsoft.NI" library. So I presume they are testing a new thing.
It could be error in the code, or the component itself is still buggy.
Your ex-.NET programmer
Nevertheless some guy wrote this:
My reply to that (unposted) was that it would be very difficult for a worm/virus to propagate under Linux. Specially if all "servers" are switched off. Simply because Linux is the opposite of Windows - there is no homogeneity
With Linux we have:
- Different Kernel versions (2.2,2.4,2.6), patched versions, hardened versions
- Different commercial and free distributions (Red Hat, Mandrake, Gentoo, Debian, Slackware).
- Different packaging managers (rpm,apt,yum,portage,or none build from source code)
- Different set of libraries (XFree w/wo Nvidia acceleration,gcc, all with different versions)
- Different Window-Managers (none just console,fvwm,FluxBox,Gnome,KDE,Enlightenment)
- Different mail-client - if we are assuming a mail-enabled virus here - (mutt,pine,sylpheed,evolution,kmail,web browser-clients)
And that is a small list of the differences between my Linux and someone else's. Soon we might have even different alternatives to X-window itself. Of course most seem to have Mozilla, so some common denominator is emerging. But I think most people don't use the email client (and address book).Any biologist would reinstate that if you have a species which is highly homogeneous (and the analogy here is Windows-XP) it is in great danger of being wiped out to extiction by some common plague (worm/viruses). The thing most people hate about Linux - is what protects it from widespread attack (dependencies,lack of homogeneity)
Linux makes you more security-aware anyway. It endorses/teaches that practice instead of you just setting your (often innefectual) "Windows-Update" on auto. Ok there is no such thing as a 100% secure system, but there is something at least 10x more secure than Windows: Linux
For how much longer are you Window users going to put up with all this?
Ah come of it!
No downside??
Do your research - search webposts - even Amazon will do
I mean I hope it will change now Novell owns it. It's just not a rant - but one person turned away back to Windows because of one Linux, kinda makes me angry. And I've witness, read a few that did that because of Suse. Of course I myself, kept battling trying distros after distros. Unfortunatelly Joe Public will label his first distro as "Linux is bad".
You were my intro to Linux
... Never once you were pretentious
...
:'(
Nice intro affordable at $20
I never quite understood those "better than duct-tape" sayings
But hey - I suppose its some geek in-joke right?
Thanks for introducing me to Linux
You never caused me frustrations
You bugs here and there -
were pretty forgiveable - If not educational
(And I still receive your Erratas !)
You are but one funky dude - with a really peculiar fashion sense
Again forgiveable - each to their own right?
I will miss you pal - truly
(Unlike that slimy Green Fella I had the misfortune of meeting)
I will hold to my red-box dearly - even the casing had style.
And indulge myself in fond memories of tweaking
See you in Nerd Heaven - So long dude
Bravo!