Ditto. Really disappointing. I'm really fond of my Pebble Steel. I was thinking about moving to the Pebble Time Round, but I guess that won't happen now.
I think this comes down to a case of a company being run by engineers; one that produces a great product, but can't run a business effectively. They have to sell to FitBit for $35 million, when they were reportedly offered $740 million from Citizen last year. https://techcrunch.com/2016/11...
Most of the putative 50000 jobs are going to be construction work building the factories.
That's still a net positive. That's 50,000 construction jobs that wouldn't exist in the U.S. if FoxConn stays put in China.
If you have even 100 employees constantly doing a very similar job, you can easily afford to spend 5 million developing a custom robotic solution)
$5,000,000 to develop a custom solution?!?! You're seriously underestimating the cost involved with that. Just a off-the-shelf robot alone can cost $100,000, without programming or other peripherals. https://techcrunch.com/2016/03...
And so begins the brain-drain of the US - the core of its last comparative advantage was education, similarly discarded, and now the trained are leaving for better pastures.
Assuming that you're here, are you planning to leave the U.S.? No? If not, ask yourself why. I'm sure the reasons you come up with are the same reasons everyone else that doesn't leave come up with as well.
they don't have our 1A, so they can probably safely ignore smaller religious organizations and just do this for large, established ones.
We're on the same page, that's the point I was trying to make about 1A. If I wanted to get tax money to help fund Pastafarianism in Germany, they couldn't deny me unless they had 1A (?).
I fear that it's going to get that much worse. I'm honestly disappointed in humankind that something with so much potential as the Internet can go to such shit so quickly.
The same things have been said about television, radio, and print. The game stays the same, only the delivery has changed.
People should be able to seek a diagnosis for mental illness without stigma, and get treatment if they need it.
They already do, depending on the "diagnosis". It seems like having aspergers, ADHD, or being on some part of the spectrum is almost a badge of honor in some circles, especially in tech: http://nymag.com/news/features...
And just think about the amount of people getting prescribed Xanax, Prozac, or Adderall nowadays.....seems like people are getting what they want (whether or not this is "treatment", or course, is debatable).
Look at Adam Lanza (the Newtown guy) -- according to all accounts, his mother basically hid his developing mental illness for years and refused to accept there was a problem. But, the sad thing is that even if she had sought help for him, she wouldn't have been able to get itc
Hogwash. She was fairly well-off financially, and it's been said that what set him off was that his mother had finally decided to have him committed. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/... Although the details behind that were somewhat speculative, he was at the very least seeing a psychiatrist, one that was in the news recently with his own set of problems: http://www.nydailynews.com/new...
I'm not saying we should go back to the bad old days of locking people up for depression, giving them lobotomies or abusing them...but I do think deinstitutionalization went way too far.
the bush number was in a slowing but steady economy not recovering from a recession.
By what metric? This particular event had been brewing for years, and didn't burst until he was about 6 months into office. Sure put the hurt on our particular industry. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Part of the reason everything is better in Europe is because of the high taxes. Low taxes lead to inequality, which leads to civil unrest, which leads to suffering. It's like the path to the Dark Side, but for civil societies.
There is a ceiling on income tax though ; you can't pay more than 51.5% when all income taxes are added up
There's a 25% sales tax on nearly everything though
They even have a tax on stupidity being a member of the state church.
Taxes are good for the health of a civil society Why do you think the happiness levels in the USA correlate so strongly with the drop in tax levels promoted by the richest?
You're really oversimplifying things. One could also make the argument that Denmark is happy because most everybody there is white: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
They even have a tax on stupidity being a member of the state church.
How does that work? Is one religion taxed more than others? Good luck trying to get that to work in the U.S.
I forgot to mention that RC Cola is a gateway drug though.....one minute your're harmlessly vaping it, and before you know it you're injecting A&W and sucking dick for Mountain Dew.
"Is the Reward for smoking pop, worth the risk of its side effects should be the real debate."
I hadn't heard about this new drug, but smoking pop seems like it would be challenging, what's the process? And does the brand or flavor matter? How about diet vs regular?
Given its history i would guess that Coca-cola would be an upper. And since Pepsi is supposed to be cool and different from Coke it must be a downer. Is Diet Dr Pepper a hallucinogenic?
I guess if you were to get your hands on old-school Coca-cola and put that in your pipe, the results might be pretty interesting: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Not to mention that if Pepsi was traditionally targeted to the black population, I expect smoking that stuff to be outlawed any day now (the same way smoking marijuana was associated with black criminality). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Smoking Diet Dr. Pepper is a businessman's high though, if you want it done right you need to start vaping RC Cola. Put's your ass into another dimension.
Republicans often threaten to limit unions, which is rare with Democrats. Maybe their actions differ than their words
I think the latter part is what's driving some of this. Union members don't feel as if the current administration has been doing enough to help (regardless if that's true or not). My father has been a member of the United Steel Workers for the larger part of his life. Earlier this year he was telling me about the amount of backlash he saw at their chapter meeting when the union representative recommended that they should all vote for Hillary.
I don't think they outright leave unions, but rather union-oriented industries are dying
This is one of the "plenty of other reasons" as well, and definitely the largest one. I'm still blown away that the Carpenters & Joiners Union is able to donate more money in 2016 than AT&T and Microsoft COMBINED.
Thanks for the conversation....what can we do to get you some higher Karma:-)
It could be that way first because most polls projected H would win. You want to influence the likely winner.
Fair enough, but the list doesn't look that much different for the 2012 and 2008 election cycles. The Unions have traditionally been heavily Blue since Reagan's first term.
User e432776 below posted that blue collar workers "have been leaving unions for decade". (http://www.bls.gov/news.release/union2.nr0.htm). There are plenty of reasons for this, but part of it could be that the Union leaders aren't getting the message that their members disagree with who they keep trying to influence.
That's the not the only case. Carter pardoned everyone who evaded the draft a just a few years later. That's an awful lot of people who weren't indicted.
Regardless how much, I could think of plenty of better things to spend that money on. How about instead donating that money to finding a cure for this rare cancer, a scholarship fund, or saving the damn whales?
Instead they decide to give it to a company that is offering nothing more than a refrigerated storage unit.
Well duh:-) In their defense their view was somewhat blocked by a freight truck parked on the side of the road, but if people in traffic situations were doing what they were supposed to do, none of this would be a problem anyway:-)
If americans had to pay for "made in america" products they would not own much. Even Harley davidsons are made from china parts and assembled in mexico
It is true that some parts are made overseas. The front forks are made in Japan by Showa, and some of the electronic components as well.
Nowhere is Mexico is a Harley-Davidson made, much less assembled. The bikes sold in the U.S. and Europe are made in either Kansas City or Milwaukee. The Street model is made in India (and assembled in Kansas City for the U.S. market), and the ones sold in Brazil are made in Manauas Amazonas).
The usual suspects are trying to slut-shame her to make them feel better about their unstable marriages.
Rumor has it that she also had a fling with Jaba and Chewbacca. Did you see the way she exchanged hugs with Chewy in The Force Awakens? Definitely old chemistry there....
Ditto. Really disappointing. I'm really fond of my Pebble Steel. I was thinking about moving to the Pebble Time Round, but I guess that won't happen now.
I think this comes down to a case of a company being run by engineers; one that produces a great product, but can't run a business effectively. They have to sell to FitBit for $35 million, when they were reportedly offered $740 million from Citizen last year.
https://techcrunch.com/2016/11...
Most of the putative 50000 jobs are going to be construction work building the factories.
That's still a net positive. That's 50,000 construction jobs that wouldn't exist in the U.S. if FoxConn stays put in China.
If you have even 100 employees constantly doing a very similar job, you can easily afford to spend 5 million developing a custom robotic solution)
$5,000,000 to develop a custom solution?!?! You're seriously underestimating the cost involved with that. Just a off-the-shelf robot alone can cost $100,000, without programming or other peripherals.
https://techcrunch.com/2016/03...
Well in that case, you guys are next:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/...
And so begins the brain-drain of the US - the core of its last comparative advantage was education, similarly discarded, and now the trained are leaving for better pastures.
Assuming that you're here, are you planning to leave the U.S.? No? If not, ask yourself why. I'm sure the reasons you come up with are the same reasons everyone else that doesn't leave come up with as well.
they don't have our 1A, so they can probably safely ignore smaller religious organizations and just do this for large, established ones.
We're on the same page, that's the point I was trying to make about 1A. If I wanted to get tax money to help fund Pastafarianism in Germany, they couldn't deny me unless they had 1A (?).
Ramen.
I fear that it's going to get that much worse. I'm honestly disappointed in humankind that something with so much potential as the Internet can go to such shit so quickly.
The same things have been said about television, radio, and print. The game stays the same, only the delivery has changed.
People should be able to seek a diagnosis for mental illness without stigma, and get treatment if they need it.
They already do, depending on the "diagnosis". It seems like having aspergers, ADHD, or being on some part of the spectrum is almost a badge of honor in some circles, especially in tech:
http://nymag.com/news/features...
And just think about the amount of people getting prescribed Xanax, Prozac, or Adderall nowadays.....seems like people are getting what they want (whether or not this is "treatment", or course, is debatable).
Look at Adam Lanza (the Newtown guy) -- according to all accounts, his mother basically hid his developing mental illness for years and refused to accept there was a problem. But, the sad thing is that even if she had sought help for him, she wouldn't have been able to get itc
Hogwash. She was fairly well-off financially, and it's been said that what set him off was that his mother had finally decided to have him committed.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...
Although the details behind that were somewhat speculative, he was at the very least seeing a psychiatrist, one that was in the news recently with his own set of problems:
http://www.nydailynews.com/new...
I'm not saying we should go back to the bad old days of locking people up for depression, giving them lobotomies or abusing them...but I do think deinstitutionalization went way too far.
Maybe. But you need to be careful of what you're asking for:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
It wouldn't work in the US because there's a strong aversion here to mixing the government with religion that way.
Not to mention Constitution:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
the bush number was in a slowing but steady economy not recovering from a recession .
By what metric? This particular event had been brewing for years, and didn't burst until he was about 6 months into office. Sure put the hurt on our particular industry.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Part of the reason everything is better in Europe is because of the high taxes. Low taxes lead to inequality, which leads to civil unrest, which leads to suffering. It's like the path to the Dark Side, but for civil societies.
The happiest nation on Earth, Denmark, has
Taxes are good for the health of a civil society Why do you think the happiness levels in the USA correlate so strongly with the drop in tax levels promoted by the richest?
You're really oversimplifying things. One could also make the argument that Denmark is happy because most everybody there is white:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
They even have a tax on stupidity being a member of the state church.
How does that work? Is one religion taxed more than others? Good luck trying to get that to work in the U.S.
* Yes, islmaophobia is racism
No it isn't. Bigoted maybe, but not racism.
I forgot to mention that RC Cola is a gateway drug though.....one minute your're harmlessly vaping it, and before you know it you're injecting A&W and sucking dick for Mountain Dew.
"Is the Reward for smoking pop, worth the risk of its side effects should be the real debate."
I hadn't heard about this new drug, but smoking pop seems like it would be challenging, what's the process? And does the brand or flavor matter? How about diet vs regular?
Given its history i would guess that Coca-cola would be an upper. And since Pepsi is supposed to be cool and different from Coke it must be a downer. Is Diet Dr Pepper a hallucinogenic?
I guess if you were to get your hands on old-school Coca-cola and put that in your pipe, the results might be pretty interesting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Not to mention that if Pepsi was traditionally targeted to the black population, I expect smoking that stuff to be outlawed any day now (the same way smoking marijuana was associated with black criminality).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Smoking Diet Dr. Pepper is a businessman's high though, if you want it done right you need to start vaping RC Cola. Put's your ass into another dimension.
Republicans often threaten to limit unions, which is rare with Democrats. Maybe their actions differ than their words
I think the latter part is what's driving some of this. Union members don't feel as if the current administration has been doing enough to help (regardless if that's true or not). My father has been a member of the United Steel Workers for the larger part of his life. Earlier this year he was telling me about the amount of backlash he saw at their chapter meeting when the union representative recommended that they should all vote for Hillary.
I don't think they outright leave unions, but rather union-oriented industries are dying
This is one of the "plenty of other reasons" as well, and definitely the largest one. I'm still blown away that the Carpenters & Joiners Union is able to donate more money in 2016 than AT&T and Microsoft COMBINED.
Thanks for the conversation....what can we do to get you some higher Karma :-)
It could be that way first because most polls projected H would win. You want to influence the likely winner.
Fair enough, but the list doesn't look that much different for the 2012 and 2008 election cycles. The Unions have traditionally been heavily Blue since Reagan's first term.
https://www.opensecrets.org/or...
https://www.opensecrets.org/or...
User e432776 below posted that blue collar workers "have been leaving unions for decade". (http://www.bls.gov/news.release/union2.nr0.htm). There are plenty of reasons for this, but part of it could be that the Union leaders aren't getting the message that their members disagree with who they keep trying to influence.
Blue-collar workers don't have the equivalent counter-bribing force.
They most certainly do, but it looks like they didn't choose the winners in the election this year:
https://www.opensecrets.org/or...
Carpenters & Joiners Union : Democrats = $23,278,997, Republicans = $436,816
Laborers Union: Democrats = $21,409,886, Republicans = $459,250
Service Employees International Union*: Democrats = $12,645,476, Republicans= $1,600
Intl Brotherhood of Electrical Workers: Democrats = $10,507,556, Republicans = $159,818
AFL-CIO: Democrats = $10,634,478, Republicans= $187,200
Plumbers/Pipefitters Union: Democrats = $8,666,315, Republicans = $306,700
Operating Engineers Union: Democrats = $6,605,597, Republicans = $773,250
Communication Workers of America: Democrats = $6,413,565, Republicans = $29,000
That's just the ones that I saw in the top 50 organizations.
*Some of these folks may be classified as Pink-Collar.
The Dems could have won this election had they played fair and let Bernie beat her.
I doubt this. Bernie never would have gotten the minority support that HIllary was able to get.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03...
Of course, I guess this NY Times article could be fake too :-)
Yeah it would go more like this:
"Cool set of classified files, Snowden. Want to take it to the White House?"
That's the not the only case. Carter pardoned everyone who evaded the draft a just a few years later. That's an awful lot of people who weren't indicted.
How much does this cost?
Regardless how much, I could think of plenty of better things to spend that money on. How about instead donating that money to finding a cure for this rare cancer, a scholarship fund, or saving the damn whales?
Instead they decide to give it to a company that is offering nothing more than a refrigerated storage unit.
I'm sure Slashdot will still be here in 400 years, and Cowboy Neal will be our new Robotic Overlord.
Well duh :-) In their defense their view was somewhat blocked by a freight truck parked on the side of the road, but if people in traffic situations were doing what they were supposed to do, none of this would be a problem anyway :-)
So I'll grant you that Trump is in the 1%
So was this guy. Somehow he gets a pass.
http://time.com/money/4235986/...
If americans had to pay for "made in america" products they would not own much. Even Harley davidsons are made from china parts and assembled in mexico
This simply isn't true.
http://www.harley-davidson.com...
It is true that some parts are made overseas. The front forks are made in Japan by Showa, and some of the electronic components as well.
Nowhere is Mexico is a Harley-Davidson made, much less assembled. The bikes sold in the U.S. and Europe are made in either Kansas City or Milwaukee. The Street model is made in India (and assembled in Kansas City for the U.S. market), and the ones sold in Brazil are made in Manauas Amazonas).
The usual suspects are trying to slut-shame her to make them feel better about their unstable marriages.
Rumor has it that she also had a fling with Jaba and Chewbacca. Did you see the way she exchanged hugs with Chewy in The Force Awakens? Definitely old chemistry there....