Assuming the network component of doom'3 engine is working at it's fullest (disregarding cheat protection) the game engine could be construed as fairly "lan only"
In other words, yes the really great effects like shadows do IN FACT slow down multiplay over the internet, but is still within acceptable limits for LAN play.
So the only reason why doom 3 multiplayer isnt that applicable now (assuming, say they had the same number of maps as quake3, and a ctf mode) is because people dont get the frames per second that any true gamer can work with in multiplayer games. That's a given, when quake 3 came out, the frames most of us were getting, were frames most of us would hate the play with today in such a fast-past multiplayer experiance.
As a one John Carmack accepts this, in the quakecon 2004 videos of the video tapes carmack sent to the event, he accepts the fact that new engines arent that great for multiplayer games, but over the years (as he proceeded to prove) when all our little microcomputers get better hardware, a great looking engine like the one doom 3 uses, will become the standard for those "really fast and fun, but ugly multiplayer games". I cant wait.
You people have to realize, PC games aren't like they were back in the day.
In addition to taking MUCH longer to make, in this day and age, it's either you make a single player game, or a multiplayer game. BF1942, UT2004, are multiplayer games. The glorious Doom 3 and the belated, and much bitched about Half Life 2, are single player games. Fuck you should be lucky your getting any multiplayer content at all. The singleplayer content in both games is phenonimal. You cant just EASILY add on multiplayer content any longer and make it a 'dual game' so to speak.
Case in point, they had 'dual games' back in the day. Quake 2, Unreal, are too good examples. They HAD both, but they only really did one really well. So, then, if very few games did both aspects well, why was there a larger multiplayer to singleplayer CONTENT ratio back then? (You might ask) That can be answered simply by the above statement, that games are taking REALLY long times frames to produce. Quake 2 had good multiplayer, and the more simple mods were doing VERY well (JailBreak, the CTF expansion come to mind) and those weren't doing much to the actual game content! Counter Strike or DOD, is NOT Half life. (same crappy engine though)...
Which leads me to another pompous statement I make very often, Valve cant make a good multiplayer campaign. Counter Strike, Natural Selection, DOD; ALL MODS!!!! (Valve cant make a multiplayer campaign, but they sure can box up a mod and sell it though...bastards...wheres my linux port...)
So sure it may make sense to bitch about Doom3's multiplayer element, when its creators have been on the record as stating it was a SINGEPLAYER game (hell they didnt even make the multiplayer levels, that stuff was a bonus that we all DIDNT pay for, but enjoyed, if your a deathmatch guy)
Doom 3 was a fantastic, visceral game (provided you didnt do something stupid like play it on a crappy laptop on the beach, and expect to shit your trunks), in addition the engine is a phenominal piece of raw technology. (Duffy and Carmack made great platform)
So your expecting valve to provide you a addictive and fun multiplayer experiance like they did with the first Half Life platform?
THEY DIDNT DO IT IN THE FIRST PLACE! USER CREATED MODS! Valve putting there name on it and selling it to you in a box DOESNT mean they were the developer, Damnit. The multiplayer content will be the same as the original half life, but with better graphics, so if your not going for HL2 for what looks like a really kickass singleplayer campaign, then just stick the the free mods for the original game you bought back in 1998.
If your going for Half Life 2 for the SinglePLayer compaign, word up dude so am I, but realize the reason why the game took so fucking long was becasue valve spent years making a physics system that does pretty much the same crap as anyother physics system they could have just licensed. (Havok and such) They reinvented the wheel, while we played Quake 3/Unreal Tournament 2003,2004 BF1942, BFVIETNAM,TRIBES, ETC ETC ETC.
Valve took there time, and we all got used to some damn good gameplay of other titles, and now when its finally completed, there spending weeks bickering and arguing about how to get the game OUT to us, in the interest of who makes the most money, where in the end I MYSELF will be pirating the game, in spite of gabe newell and his goons, for there lack of a linux port, where the linux dedicated server runs just about the entire backbone of their multiplayer segment, containing all the mods the people actually purchased, which in turn is the only reason why valve has enough money right now, after only realasing one game, 6 years ago...
PS
Half the gamers out there play counter strike, because it works on theire geforce 4mx card. There, I said it. Mod this up, I know its "Insightful".
As a Slackware goon, I always wondered how newer versions of Gnome got to Slackware users.
LinuxPackages.net, which is mainly for just slackware packages, doesnt seem to really have ever given updates to any of the stock gnome packages on the standard slackware distro. Slackware 10.1 will, of course feature gnome 2.8 (slackware 9.0 was 2.2 9.1 was 2.4, 10.0 was 2.6), but for those of us who think KDE licks balls, and gnome is more of an elegant, less bloated desktop environment, and run Slackware, what are our options?
Is there a respistory I'm not familiar with? I doubt slackware.com's package browser would have that packages UNTIL 10.1 comes out, in which case I will upgrade anyways. (Word up)
I would compile from source, but would probably fuck it up, but then again, if I format my partitions with every new OS upgrade, I might as well give it a shot. Any place that would have a howto, or list of instructions from building straight from the source off gnome.org?
It would have never came out on Sept 3 2003. The leaked beta proved this somewhat, although even myself, a PRO Linux PRO Doom 3, and PRO Fuck Gabe Newell up the anus, took it with a grain of salt.
Valve intentionally left their computers open enough for people to crack it, giving them an excuse to delay their product, and for the most part it worked. You have to give them credit. People like myself were not swayed by this stupid tactic, but as far as computer gamers go, I'm part of a small, (but much more cooler, kernel re-compiling) group. They had bought an entire YEAR, which is frankly, rather impressive, although it's not hard to fool counter strike kiddies. Heh, those little shit's think that if you wack your mouse against the desk, thereby moving your aim really fast, that your using a maphack! Ahh, thats rich!, Little bastards...god they all need to be shot...
Regardless, I am looking forward to half life 2, I admit it. But unlike buying Doom 3, paying for overnight shipping, and recieving it ON august 3, I will pirate valve's second game. (Selling free mods for 30 bucks a pop, doesnt count as a game)
Although now that I think of it, I have a stolen ATI card from a fucked up bst buy open box purchase. (Not of an ATI card, but of a sound blaster 2 zs platium package) On a side note, ATI sucks balls and is the anitchrist.
Now that they're doing the Steam Preload biznack, I might be able to get away with just the code on the paper, and not a non existant box top from an ATI card I didnt purchase, that during the time of that promo, wont be even able to play the game.
yeah this is probaly a rant. Hell give us a linux port, and like, we wont fuck over your computers, steal your forum accounts, and make butt sex jokes about you gabe.
God look what G4 has done. We used to have great TechTV network, now we got all these console playing losers and 12 shows will all the same damn content.
On top of that you got that dumbass chucklehead Cliff talking about his own G4 column and scat porn in a pool-bar with some fatass who's scared to swim without a shirt on.
This guy has to get off his ass and make Unreal 3, on the planet Na Pali. Their best game, the original, was slapped in the proverbial face by a shitty sequel whos only selling point was a dumbass commander with large breasts.
Cliff, your're a pansy.
Hurry it's gold!
http://www.hl2fallout.com/forums/index.php?showtop ic=4221&hl=
Crack the preload and tell gabe and his windows kiddies to fuck off by getting the pirated stuff out there first!
Word up dude.
Valve makes one game 6 years ago, and now is somehow living (leeching) on the mod community for more content to their aging quake 1 engine.
Fuck them, fuck them up their stupid asses.
Although the "Unix on the Desktop" market segment, as it relates to 3d cards and 3d games is small (but much more cooler) but they are making money, (just bought a 500 dollar 6800 Ultra from BFG, because of the GPU's Support for the Linux operating system I'm so fond of.
Regardless, even if I did not make them any money the way NVIDIA is going about business is really smart. First off you have to realize their not all together a 3d card company. They do other things as well, Chipsets, Audio, Networks, etc. All these things work on...
Windows NT6 95/98/ME 2000/XP XP_64 2003/2003-64 Etc (but we dont care about that)
x86 Linux
x86_64 Linux
IA64 Linux
and FreeBSD
They'er optized chipset drivers are provided for the 2 Linux platforms they will usually be used for...x86 and x86_64.
With all their products supported accross the board, it is clear that they are a company providing lean and mean technology across nearly the WHOLE computing spectrum.
This kind of exposure shows how the company doenst just support all the little counter strike kiddies windows boxes with mid range graphics cards. God I hate valve. Nvidia's a real company providing excellent services for everyone. Screw ATI.
Switch to NVIDIA. Infact, grab a 6800 GT. Fastest card for Doom3, and when the Linux port comes out, you can upgrade TO Slackware, erase Windows XP, and get going with the simple to use NVIDIA Linux driver script. I know it will be hard to learn how to do new things on your computer without the help of an animated talking dog who finds your files, but if you people don't seriously consider doing something useful with your computers, I will seriously consider cutting you all.
Can you people PLEASE stop making stupid jokes about old hardware, or that your ATARI can't play Doom 3. They were funny once when the "Quake 3 Test Released" thread was opened on on Slashdot 5 years ago.
I mean, they're really corny.
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Regardless, I would seriously doubt John Carmack himself would hold back his technology on someone's card (ATI), just because they most likely did steal from them. God knows I would if I was in his place, not only because their dumb, canadian theifs (The worst kind, because many Canadians are nice, and the Kids in the Hall rocks, eh word up homie) But because of the fact that yes they have SHIT for opengl driver support, AND their Linux support is next to non-existant.
They provide like 3 RPM's, and if your lucky even whatever distro (some god awful old mandrake or redhat setup most likely) that the packages are intented for will come through.
NVidia has support for MANY operating systems (FreeBSD, 32 and 64 and AMD64 Bit Linux, oh yeah, and that windows thing)
I myself am opting for a 6800 Ultra if I can find one in time, for my Slackware Linux Box running a gig of ram and an AMD64 3200+. It will be replacing my 5900 (5950 overclocked with a bios upgrade to the card) that I was able to installed with a screwdriver, and a simple installtion script from Nvidia.com, or an ebuild in my old Gentoo days (last week).
To any computer gamer, I recommend an NVIDIA card, even if you are on Windows. I have tried both brands of cards in both environments, and yes OpenGL performance on ATI is terrible. So yes, ATI will have a harder time playing this game.
Buy a 6800 GT. If you can, go for the 6800 GT OC from BFG, overclocked out of the box. Enjoy DooM3.
In addition, not only do both brands of cards have their own set of rendering paths for their older models, the r200 and nv20 path, for the geforce 3/4 and 8500/9000 cards respectivly, but the latest of both brands run on Carmacks ARB2 path, a set of more generalized (arb=arbitrary im supposing) extenstions. Its the total package path, and its called, and whoever said the that ati ran slow because it didnt have its own specific paths is a moron.
Thanks.
P.S
Slackware rules. Fuck Bill Gates. Fuck him right in his rectum.
Kernel Stacks...
Is a kernel option in "kernel hacking" (so its a trick it would seem). It allows for mroe process threads on your computer among other things.
Before, it was 8 stacks. But, as many people noticed RedHat again fucked with the kernel, and enabled 4k instead of 8k in the default kernel in fedora core 2. The drivers then could not run in that mode it seemed, and a vanilla kernel was required. They fixed that, thanks nvidia, made support for the 6800 (now that the linux driver is realeased, im giving the company my 500 bucks...see...support linux...make money....) and upadated both the x86 and amd64 driver codebase to the same version, instead of 5536 to 5532, thanks nvidia, slowly but surely you do well enough.
I found this out when I recently installed slackware 10, and a new vanilla 2.6.7 kernel. Slackware on a laptop, (ibm thinkpad a30) is good shit.
Gnome looks very sexy, on it.
I want Doom 3.
Suffice to say, there is no way in hell they would ever be able to get any game out in their current state.
But as it stands, computer games are like television. Lowest common denominator. This country is full of inbred morons. Cops on Fox. Same with computers. We have Aol. They use it to chat with other idiots, download all the wrong kind of pornography, and look at stupid pictures of some guy with his hand up his ass, their dumb friends, or their friends with their hand up their ass.
Gaming is filled with worthless crap, 80 percent. lucas arts cancels another adventure game, realeases 5 star wars titles in the next 2 weeks. There is another grand theft auto missionpack in the works. By the way? How many sims titles were there?
Regardless, I'm sure Interplay COULD be doing better, and isnt on their own accord. Yet they made GOOD games, for a specific audience. No lowest common denominator with the Fallout Series.
They're doomed. This little insite into what they might be 'working' on is just trying to rejuvinate a spark in now devoid loyal fanbase.
It wont happen. If id did, im sure it would be better than everything else in just the setting alone. I doubt it would be like I had described, and I doubt they (the players) could manage a commitiment to a virtual character. (Just thoughts I suppose)
But, interplay, if you do decide to do a fallout **PC*** game. Try either Fallout 3, (turn based, society, fixed up enough so that another bomb could wipe it out) as a 3d representation of the 2d game world we once could run in DOS.
Or Fallout: Online, a 3d FPS/3PS, with lots of players in a battle field 1942 (hated the game, but it could support many playes) game mechanics, but make everything LARGE (farcry large) maps, with UT assault like objectives.
Or just let me take any computer crap you have to get rid of.
I really enjoyed fallout. Thank you.
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God your stupid.
In other words, yes the really great effects like shadows do IN FACT slow down multiplay over the internet, but is still within acceptable limits for LAN play.
So the only reason why doom 3 multiplayer isnt that applicable now (assuming, say they had the same number of maps as quake3, and a ctf mode) is because people dont get the frames per second that any true gamer can work with in multiplayer games. That's a given, when quake 3 came out, the frames most of us were getting, were frames most of us would hate the play with today in such a fast-past multiplayer experiance.
As a one John Carmack accepts this, in the quakecon 2004 videos of the video tapes carmack sent to the event, he accepts the fact that new engines arent that great for multiplayer games, but over the years (as he proceeded to prove) when all our little microcomputers get better hardware, a great looking engine like the one doom 3 uses, will become the standard for those "really fast and fun, but ugly multiplayer games". I cant wait.
In addition to taking MUCH longer to make, in this day and age, it's either you make a single player game, or a multiplayer game. BF1942, UT2004, are multiplayer games. The glorious Doom 3 and the belated, and much bitched about Half Life 2, are single player games. Fuck you should be lucky your getting any multiplayer content at all. The singleplayer content in both games is phenonimal. You cant just EASILY add on multiplayer content any longer and make it a 'dual game' so to speak.
Case in point, they had 'dual games' back in the day. Quake 2, Unreal, are too good examples. They HAD both, but they only really did one really well. So, then, if very few games did both aspects well, why was there a larger multiplayer to singleplayer CONTENT ratio back then? (You might ask) That can be answered simply by the above statement, that games are taking REALLY long times frames to produce. Quake 2 had good multiplayer, and the more simple mods were doing VERY well (JailBreak, the CTF expansion come to mind) and those weren't doing much to the actual game content! Counter Strike or DOD, is NOT Half life. (same crappy engine though)...
Which leads me to another pompous statement I make very often, Valve cant make a good multiplayer campaign. Counter Strike, Natural Selection, DOD; ALL MODS!!!! (Valve cant make a multiplayer campaign, but they sure can box up a mod and sell it though...bastards...wheres my linux port...)
So sure it may make sense to bitch about Doom3's multiplayer element, when its creators have been on the record as stating it was a SINGEPLAYER game (hell they didnt even make the multiplayer levels, that stuff was a bonus that we all DIDNT pay for, but enjoyed, if your a deathmatch guy)
Doom 3 was a fantastic, visceral game (provided you didnt do something stupid like play it on a crappy laptop on the beach, and expect to shit your trunks), in addition the engine is a phenominal piece of raw technology. (Duffy and Carmack made great platform)
So your expecting valve to provide you a addictive and fun multiplayer experiance like they did with the first Half Life platform?
THEY DIDNT DO IT IN THE FIRST PLACE! USER CREATED MODS! Valve putting there name on it and selling it to you in a box DOESNT mean they were the developer, Damnit. The multiplayer content will be the same as the original half life, but with better graphics, so if your not going for HL2 for what looks like a really kickass singleplayer campaign, then just stick the the free mods for the original game you bought back in 1998.
If your going for Half Life 2 for the SinglePLayer compaign, word up dude so am I, but realize the reason why the game took so fucking long was becasue valve spent years making a physics system that does pretty much the same crap as anyother physics system they could have just licensed. (Havok and such) They reinvented the wheel, while we played Quake 3/Unreal Tournament 2003,2004 BF1942, BFVIETNAM,TRIBES, ETC ETC ETC.
Valve took there time, and we all got used to some damn good gameplay of other titles, and now when its finally completed, there spending weeks bickering and arguing about how to get the game OUT to us, in the interest of who makes the most money, where in the end I MYSELF will be pirating the game, in spite of gabe newell and his goons, for there lack of a linux port, where the linux dedicated server runs just about the entire backbone of their multiplayer segment, containing all the mods the people actually purchased, which in turn is the only reason why valve has enough money right now, after only realasing one game, 6 years ago...
PS Half the gamers out there play counter strike, because it works on theire geforce 4mx card. There, I said it. Mod this up, I know its "Insightful".
You somehow find the time to talk about it online though.
As a Slackware goon, I always wondered how newer versions of Gnome got to Slackware users. LinuxPackages.net, which is mainly for just slackware packages, doesnt seem to really have ever given updates to any of the stock gnome packages on the standard slackware distro. Slackware 10.1 will, of course feature gnome 2.8 (slackware 9.0 was 2.2 9.1 was 2.4, 10.0 was 2.6), but for those of us who think KDE licks balls, and gnome is more of an elegant, less bloated desktop environment, and run Slackware, what are our options? Is there a respistory I'm not familiar with? I doubt slackware.com's package browser would have that packages UNTIL 10.1 comes out, in which case I will upgrade anyways. (Word up) I would compile from source, but would probably fuck it up, but then again, if I format my partitions with every new OS upgrade, I might as well give it a shot. Any place that would have a howto, or list of instructions from building straight from the source off gnome.org?
Yeah! Everybody shut up!
Leak....Leak.....Leak....Leak.....
It would have never came out on Sept 3 2003.
The leaked beta proved this somewhat, although even myself, a PRO Linux PRO Doom 3, and PRO Fuck Gabe Newell up the anus, took it with a grain of salt.
Valve intentionally left their computers open enough for people to crack it, giving them an excuse to delay their product, and for the most part it worked. You have to give them credit. People like myself were not swayed by this stupid tactic, but as far as computer gamers go, I'm part of a small, (but much more cooler, kernel re-compiling) group. They had bought an entire YEAR, which is frankly, rather impressive, although it's not hard to fool counter strike kiddies. Heh, those little shit's think that if you wack your mouse against the desk, thereby moving your aim really fast, that your using a maphack! Ahh, thats rich!, Little bastards...god they all need to be shot...
Regardless, I am looking forward to half life 2, I admit it. But unlike buying Doom 3, paying for overnight shipping, and recieving it ON august 3, I will pirate valve's second game. (Selling free mods for 30 bucks a pop, doesnt count as a game)
Although now that I think of it, I have a stolen ATI card from a fucked up bst buy open box purchase. (Not of an ATI card, but of a sound blaster 2 zs platium package) On a side note, ATI sucks balls and is the anitchrist.
Now that they're doing the Steam Preload biznack, I might be able to get away with just the code on the paper, and not a non existant box top from an ATI card I didnt purchase, that during the time of that promo, wont be even able to play the game.
yeah this is probaly a rant. Hell give us a linux port, and like, we wont fuck over your computers, steal your forum accounts, and make butt sex jokes about you gabe.
Word.
It uses the Dark engine, the engine behind Theif 1. Thief 2, but not Theaf 3, and System Shock 2.
If Carmack quits, I'm going to rape his wife and molest his child. No fucking way in hell.
The cracker must be low on paper towels and socks.
First post bitches!
God look what G4 has done. We used to have great TechTV network, now we got all these console playing losers and 12 shows will all the same damn content. On top of that you got that dumbass chucklehead Cliff talking about his own G4 column and scat porn in a pool-bar with some fatass who's scared to swim without a shirt on. This guy has to get off his ass and make Unreal 3, on the planet Na Pali. Their best game, the original, was slapped in the proverbial face by a shitty sequel whos only selling point was a dumbass commander with large breasts. Cliff, your're a pansy.
Hurry it's gold! http://www.hl2fallout.com/forums/index.php?showtop ic=4221&hl=
Crack the preload and tell gabe and his windows kiddies to fuck off by getting the pirated stuff out there first!
Word up dude. Valve makes one game 6 years ago, and now is somehow living (leeching) on the mod community for more content to their aging quake 1 engine. Fuck them, fuck them up their stupid asses.
Although the "Unix on the Desktop" market segment, as it relates to 3d cards and 3d games is small (but much more cooler) but they are making money, (just bought a 500 dollar 6800 Ultra from BFG, because of the GPU's Support for the Linux operating system I'm so fond of. Regardless, even if I did not make them any money the way NVIDIA is going about business is really smart. First off you have to realize their not all together a 3d card company. They do other things as well, Chipsets, Audio, Networks, etc. All these things work on... Windows NT6 95/98/ME 2000/XP XP_64 2003/2003-64 Etc (but we dont care about that) x86 Linux x86_64 Linux IA64 Linux and FreeBSD They'er optized chipset drivers are provided for the 2 Linux platforms they will usually be used for...x86 and x86_64. With all their products supported accross the board, it is clear that they are a company providing lean and mean technology across nearly the WHOLE computing spectrum. This kind of exposure shows how the company doenst just support all the little counter strike kiddies windows boxes with mid range graphics cards. God I hate valve. Nvidia's a real company providing excellent services for everyone. Screw ATI.
After pirating CS Source I cant logon to regular steam on my Linux setup with cedega.
First Post?
God that joke is so damn lame. The game is supposed to be scary. Darkness is scary. And if you download the duct tape mod. I hate you.
Let's hope the Linux port arrives post haste. Rebooting hurts.
Switch to NVIDIA. Infact, grab a 6800 GT. Fastest card for Doom3, and when the Linux port comes out, you can upgrade TO Slackware, erase Windows XP, and get going with the simple to use NVIDIA Linux driver script. I know it will be hard to learn how to do new things on your computer without the help of an animated talking dog who finds your files, but if you people don't seriously consider doing something useful with your computers, I will seriously consider cutting you all.
Can you people PLEASE stop making stupid jokes about old hardware, or that your ATARI can't play Doom 3. They were funny once when the "Quake 3 Test Released" thread was opened on on Slashdot 5 years ago.
I mean, they're really corny.
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Regardless, I would seriously doubt John Carmack himself would hold back his technology on someone's card (ATI), just because they most likely did steal from them. God knows I would if I was in his place, not only because their dumb, canadian theifs (The worst kind, because many Canadians are nice, and the Kids in the Hall rocks, eh word up homie) But because of the fact that yes they have SHIT for opengl driver support, AND their Linux support is next to non-existant.
They provide like 3 RPM's, and if your lucky even whatever distro (some god awful old mandrake or redhat setup most likely) that the packages are intented for will come through.
NVidia has support for MANY operating systems (FreeBSD, 32 and 64 and AMD64 Bit Linux, oh yeah, and that windows thing)
I myself am opting for a 6800 Ultra if I can find one in time, for my Slackware Linux Box running a gig of ram and an AMD64 3200+. It will be replacing my 5900 (5950 overclocked with a bios upgrade to the card) that I was able to installed with a screwdriver, and a simple installtion script from Nvidia.com, or an ebuild in my old Gentoo days (last week).
To any computer gamer, I recommend an NVIDIA card, even if you are on Windows. I have tried both brands of cards in both environments, and yes OpenGL performance on ATI is terrible. So yes, ATI will have a harder time playing this game.
Buy a 6800 GT. If you can, go for the 6800 GT OC from BFG, overclocked out of the box. Enjoy DooM3.
In addition, not only do both brands of cards have their own set of rendering paths for their older models, the r200 and nv20 path, for the geforce 3/4 and 8500/9000 cards respectivly, but the latest of both brands run on Carmacks ARB2 path, a set of more generalized (arb=arbitrary im supposing) extenstions. Its the total package path, and its called, and whoever said the that ati ran slow because it didnt have its own specific paths is a moron.
Thanks.
P.S
Slackware rules. Fuck Bill Gates. Fuck him right in his rectum.
3dfx did. While they were still in business. Love 3dfx.
Kernel Stacks... Is a kernel option in "kernel hacking" (so its a trick it would seem). It allows for mroe process threads on your computer among other things. Before, it was 8 stacks. But, as many people noticed RedHat again fucked with the kernel, and enabled 4k instead of 8k in the default kernel in fedora core 2. The drivers then could not run in that mode it seemed, and a vanilla kernel was required. They fixed that, thanks nvidia, made support for the 6800 (now that the linux driver is realeased, im giving the company my 500 bucks...see...support linux...make money....) and upadated both the x86 and amd64 driver codebase to the same version, instead of 5536 to 5532, thanks nvidia, slowly but surely you do well enough. I found this out when I recently installed slackware 10, and a new vanilla 2.6.7 kernel. Slackware on a laptop, (ibm thinkpad a30) is good shit. Gnome looks very sexy, on it. I want Doom 3.
Suffice to say, there is no way in hell they would ever be able to get any game out in their current state. But as it stands, computer games are like television. Lowest common denominator. This country is full of inbred morons. Cops on Fox. Same with computers. We have Aol. They use it to chat with other idiots, download all the wrong kind of pornography, and look at stupid pictures of some guy with his hand up his ass, their dumb friends, or their friends with their hand up their ass. Gaming is filled with worthless crap, 80 percent. lucas arts cancels another adventure game, realeases 5 star wars titles in the next 2 weeks. There is another grand theft auto missionpack in the works. By the way? How many sims titles were there? Regardless, I'm sure Interplay COULD be doing better, and isnt on their own accord. Yet they made GOOD games, for a specific audience. No lowest common denominator with the Fallout Series. They're doomed. This little insite into what they might be 'working' on is just trying to rejuvinate a spark in now devoid loyal fanbase. It wont happen. If id did, im sure it would be better than everything else in just the setting alone. I doubt it would be like I had described, and I doubt they (the players) could manage a commitiment to a virtual character. (Just thoughts I suppose) But, interplay, if you do decide to do a fallout **PC*** game. Try either Fallout 3, (turn based, society, fixed up enough so that another bomb could wipe it out) as a 3d representation of the 2d game world we once could run in DOS. Or Fallout: Online, a 3d FPS/3PS, with lots of players in a battle field 1942 (hated the game, but it could support many playes) game mechanics, but make everything LARGE (farcry large) maps, with UT assault like objectives. Or just let me take any computer crap you have to get rid of. I really enjoyed fallout. Thank you.