You can turn on/off viewing of errors, warnings and info. For.NET compact framework, the remote debugger actually works in 2005 "Find reference" in 2003 -> "Find all references" in 2005
For C++, it cannot even be trusted to find the definition of a class or a function located in the same file.
And of course, they still haven't figured out how how to make resizable dialogs. They have, it's called TableLayoutPanel (although it's a far cry from Glade's version;-).
The IDE's own dialog are still of a fixed size. That's what I was complaining about. I wouldn't use any toolkit developed by those clueless morons if I can help it anyway (which I currently sadly can't, maintaining a MFC app). The quality of their development tools is not conductive to me trusting a toolkit or framework made by them.
With 256 MB of RAM, the virtual memory was used so much that my disk developed bad sectors within 4 months. But with 512 MB it is considerably faster.
It's slow as hell here on my work machine. It has 2GB of ram for crying out loud. I'm working with a solution containing 44 C++ projects (most are libraries). It just doesn't scale properly. When I press F5 to run my app in the debugger (which doesnt depend on all of those 43 other projects), I have to wait one minute, even if there is nothing to rebuild. There's no excuse for this in this day and age.
Me too, but I think it's very good - at least for C# (I suspect it's not that great for C++).
It indeed sucks ass for C++. It's probably good for C#, given that there aren't many alternatives.
Last time I checked the express version was free.
The version that my company uses is not free. And it's not worth its price.
Depends of the game. Adventure or RPG games aren't really worth replaying usually (unless you like replaying RPGs with a different character class, which a lot of people just can't bother to). So you play them once and that's it. If there's only enough content for 3 days worth of playing, then that's a problem.
EVE is a PvP game where players are pitted against each others. Unlike most other MMOs, however, it goes way beyond killing each others.
CCP made a lot of efforts to setup complex and realistics economics in their game for the sole purpose of making all kind of swindling possible.
People ripping each others of money, corporate politics, corporate spying, economic war, thief, and of course murder are possible and encouraged in EVE. The whole game is built to enable these things to occur, and it's what people playing that game seek.
So why on earth should it be punished? You can't complain about getting conned in EVE anymore that you can complain about getting slaughtered in UT2004, because it's the reason why you play the game in the first place.
We had to switch to vs2005 to develop for vista. We'd gladly have skipped it otherwise.
Oh, and C++ libraries have to be rebuilt. Old binaries are incompatible. If you use third party libraries for which no source or vs2005 binaries are available, don't update.
The only single actual improvement, as far as I'm concerned, is that the debugger can display the content of STL containers.
I strongly disagree. I've been using every version of visual studio professionaly since version 6 (and I used v5 at school), and it's been a complete pain in the ass through the years. It used to do things that others IDE didn't do, so at some point most of its crappiness was tolerable. But nowadays, this thing is unacceptable.
Vs2003 was almost ok and seemed to have the potential to turn into something acceptable. Plenty of things were wrong or even a complete pain in the ass already: the project settings dialog, the configuration system, the inflexible build system which mysteriously failed to rebuild things on a regular basis, the mysterious and annoying separation of file system hierarchy and project hierarchy, the irritating and random hanging for dozen of secodns at time of the whole thing for no apparent reason, the tiny, cramped and not resizable dialogs...
Then vs2005 came along. This thing is a monstrosity. It didn't fix anything that I had a problem with in vs2003. Instead, it became more slow, badly architectured and is a total shrine of mediocrity. It spam refresh the project list tree for dozens of seconds at a time for no reason. Close multiple tabs and watch as it pointlessly waste its time (and yours) refreshing the display after closing each tab. The project configuration dialog is a complete joke which tend to overwrite the wrong project settings for no reason. Watch it randomly remove projects from the solution from times to time. Create a file, add it to the project, and it chokes and crash.
Try to rebuild the project or just even run it, wait for 30 seconds for that clusterfuck of an ide to figure out that nothing should be built. Not that it ever gets it right if a lot of stuff were updated in your last version control update, anyway.
Scalability is horrendous.
And of course, they still haven't figured out how how to make resizable dialogs. The did figure out how to add gradients in the toolbars, though. Thanks for this awesome usability improvement guys.
Oh, I almost forgot that they decided arbitrarily to not provide you with redistributable debug version of the runtime libraries. Since I'm working on an internal production application with an hopelessly convoluted setup procedure, I really enjoy not being able to run a debug version on a user's machine to help me troubleshoot some issues. Development tools are supposed to make the developer's life easier, not to create gratuitous inconveniences.
I use thing thing 8 hours per day. I hate it with a passion. And it's not like it's cheap either.
My viewpoint is that religion has an inherent positive nature
The point is, that is indeed YOUR viewpoint.
That website doesn't seem to encourage people to officially divorce from religion but merely provide a way to do so. I'm pretty sure that people doing it were not actually religious to begin with. Pointing out to people that they can decide for themselves is NOT encouraging them to leave religion, and is healthy. As opposed to the view that no one should even think or even talk about it that a lot of religious people seem to have.
It's actually asinine that religion always seem to be an opt-out system rather than opt-in. Deciding that someone is of a certain religion by birth is scary. Or even assuming that they share the religious beliefs of the family they were born in.
I'm usually pretty pissed off when my family assume that I'm a christian just because I was christened, for instance.
Let people do their own choices and don't cry foul just because someone points out that you don't HAVE to pretend to share the same religious beliefs (or any at all) as your peers. If you believe that encouraging people to think by themselves is trying to shove an opposite viewpoint to your religion, then I can only assume that your religion is against free thinking.
Games that are short, with low replay value and I might add, usually lacking originality and interest these days, and still sold at an expensive price are not going to sell that much. Despite what starry-eyed bean counters hope.
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I think there is some kind of distortion in the very fabric of the interwebs that makes Fark posts dupes all the time like slashdot and slashdot posts fark headline sized summaries these days.
I think they want to be sure that the thing is rock solid before making it general to the available public, so as to avoid to be more exposed to FUD attacks than necessary.
A pissed off customer is more likely to switch to another product as soon as he gets an opportunity to do so.
I don't think that MS has fostered much genuine loyalty from their customers, and I believe that they're going to wish they avoided to needlessly alienate people at some point.
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"(Off topic follow up: in French is iPod pronounced "ee-PO"?)"
We generally keep the english pronunciation for english words. Well, a broken english pronunciation at least. I say "aye-pod". French people tend to say "ee-pod", but I don't know of anyone dropping the d at the end.
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You're right about "wagon", and "wisigoth". I don't know about "awalé".
But the most commonly used words with W in french are pronounced roughly like in english: sandwich, wifi, clown, interview, watt, etc. "wagon" and "wisigoth" are not employed very often (unless your work is related to trains, you're not going to talk about wagons very often)
When we see a W randomly put in a made-up word, we're intuitively going to pronounce it like in english, not v in any case:)
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"W in French is pronounced like v."
No. "WC" is the only thing where we pronounce it like v. Actually, I can't even think of any french word that wasn't borrowed from english that has a W in it, so whenever we ever use it, we pronounce like in english. And indeed, Wii does sound the same as "oui" in french.
It's in their best interest not to piss off their customers with gratuitous and pointless inconveniences. They've been around for 30 years and they still don't get this. Just how dense are these people?
This is not different than Wine. Cringeley is just being an ignorant asshat.
Implementing the win32 api is made difficult by the lack of proper specifications of the API (as in defining the exact behavior of the API, or stating clearly what has an undefined behavior, etc.)
Even if it did exist, it wouldn't help much, as since there is essentially one official implementation of the API that everyone develops against, a lot of apps rely, intentionally or accidentaly, on side-effect or undefined behaviors caused by the way the API is implemented. Those quirks, in turn, needs to be emulated aswell to make apps work.
This is why microsoft offering the EU to give the source code to its stuff as a matter of documentation is not good, because you lack the information needed to distinguish what is part of the specs, and what is merely a side-effect of the implementation (not to mention those things that may be in their specs but missing from the implementation)
In any case, Apple cannot magically implement the windows API better than Wine on a short notice. Indeed, even Microsoft has trouble updating their own OS without breaking third party apps (and probably even previous versions of their own apps).
"they're just forcing me to watch their "copying DVDs is piracy and is the same as mugguing someone so don't do it" bullshit. on a DVD I've just fucking bought anyway."
That pisses me off, too.
People who buy DVDs don't need to be told not to pirate them.
People who pirate DVDs obviously don't care about those warnings, and can remove them so they are not forced to read them anymore.
It's the same thing as with copy protections, really.
Defending free speech against IP laws is a good idea, but then it needs to be done both ways. I'm french and I would definately consider the software patent laws in the US a violation of my free speech aswell.
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You can turn on/off viewing of errors, warnings and info. .NET compact framework, the remote debugger actually works in 2005
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"Find reference" in 2003 -> "Find all references" in 2005
For C++, it cannot even be trusted to find the definition of a class or a function located in the same file.
And of course, they still haven't figured out how how to make resizable dialogs.
They have, it's called TableLayoutPanel (although it's a far cry from Glade's version
The IDE's own dialog are still of a fixed size. That's what I was complaining about. I wouldn't use any toolkit developed by those clueless morons if I can help it anyway (which I currently sadly can't, maintaining a MFC app).
The quality of their development tools is not conductive to me trusting a toolkit or framework made by them.
With 256 MB of RAM, the virtual memory was used so much that my disk developed bad sectors within 4 months. But with 512 MB it is considerably faster.
It's slow as hell here on my work machine. It has 2GB of ram for crying out loud. I'm working with a solution containing 44 C++ projects (most are libraries). It just doesn't scale properly. When I press F5 to run my app in the debugger (which doesnt depend on all of those 43 other projects), I have to wait one minute, even if there is nothing to rebuild.
There's no excuse for this in this day and age.
Me too, but I think it's very good - at least for C# (I suspect it's not that great for C++).
It indeed sucks ass for C++. It's probably good for C#, given that there aren't many alternatives.
Last time I checked the express version was free.
The version that my company uses is not free. And it's not worth its price.
That was only half serious. I was at work and a bit pissed off :)
So what?
If it doesn't destroy the world, scientific knowledge advances.
If it does, no onw will be around anymore to worry about it.
Depends of the game. Adventure or RPG games aren't really worth replaying usually (unless you like replaying RPGs with a different character class, which a lot of people just can't bother to).
So you play them once and that's it. If there's only enough content for 3 days worth of playing, then that's a problem.
"People want nice graphics, AI, etc and a STORYLINE..."
...And games that lasts more than 3 days.
Out of all the above, they mostly only ever get nice graphics and nothing else, though.
EVE is a PvP game where players are pitted against each others. Unlike most other MMOs, however, it goes way beyond killing each others.
CCP made a lot of efforts to setup complex and realistics economics in their game for the sole purpose of making all kind of swindling possible.
People ripping each others of money, corporate politics, corporate spying, economic war, thief, and of course murder are possible and encouraged in EVE. The whole game is built to enable these things to occur, and it's what people playing that game seek.
So why on earth should it be punished? You can't complain about getting conned in EVE anymore that you can complain about getting slaughtered in UT2004, because it's the reason why you play the game in the first place.
We had to switch to vs2005 to develop for vista. We'd gladly have skipped it otherwise.
.net, however.
Oh, and C++ libraries have to be rebuilt. Old binaries are incompatible. If you use third party libraries for which no source or vs2005 binaries are available, don't update.
The only single actual improvement, as far as I'm concerned, is that the debugger can display the content of STL containers.
I don't know anything about
Absolutely -- that and Excel.
I strongly disagree. I've been using every version of visual studio professionaly since version 6 (and I used v5 at school), and it's been a complete pain in the ass through the years. It used to do things that others IDE didn't do, so at some point most of its crappiness was tolerable.
But nowadays, this thing is unacceptable.
Vs2003 was almost ok and seemed to have the potential to turn into something acceptable.
Plenty of things were wrong or even a complete pain in the ass already: the project settings dialog, the configuration system, the inflexible build system which mysteriously failed to rebuild things on a regular basis, the mysterious and annoying separation of file system hierarchy and project hierarchy, the irritating and random hanging for dozen of secodns at time of the whole thing for no apparent reason, the tiny, cramped and not resizable dialogs...
Then vs2005 came along.
This thing is a monstrosity. It didn't fix anything that I had a problem with in vs2003. Instead, it became more slow, badly architectured and is a total shrine of mediocrity.
It spam refresh the project list tree for dozens of seconds at a time for no reason. Close multiple tabs and watch as it pointlessly waste its time (and yours) refreshing the display after closing each tab.
The project configuration dialog is a complete joke which tend to overwrite the wrong project settings for no reason.
Watch it randomly remove projects from the solution from times to time.
Create a file, add it to the project, and it chokes and crash.
Try to rebuild the project or just even run it, wait for 30 seconds for that clusterfuck of an ide to figure out that nothing should be built. Not that it ever gets it right if a lot of stuff were updated in your last version control update, anyway.
Scalability is horrendous.
And of course, they still haven't figured out how how to make resizable dialogs. The did figure out how to add gradients in the toolbars, though. Thanks for this awesome usability improvement guys.
Oh, I almost forgot that they decided arbitrarily to not provide you with redistributable debug version of the runtime libraries. Since I'm working on an internal production application with an hopelessly convoluted setup procedure, I really enjoy not being able to run a debug version on a user's machine to help me troubleshoot some issues. Development tools are supposed to make the developer's life easier, not to create gratuitous inconveniences.
I use thing thing 8 hours per day. I hate it with a passion.
And it's not like it's cheap either.
"Look how well they worked there"
In soviet russia, monopolies look how well YOU work.
Yeah.
He's also very interested in the whereabouts of a certain John G.
Both modding up the good posts and modding down the bad ones improve the signal/noise ratio.
My viewpoint is that religion has an inherent positive nature
The point is, that is indeed YOUR viewpoint.
That website doesn't seem to encourage people to officially divorce from religion but merely provide a way to do so. I'm pretty sure that people doing it were not actually religious to begin with. Pointing out to people that they can decide for themselves is NOT encouraging them to leave religion, and is healthy. As opposed to the view that no one should even think or even talk about it that a lot of religious people seem to have.
It's actually asinine that religion always seem to be an opt-out system rather than opt-in. Deciding that someone is of a certain religion by birth is scary. Or even assuming that they share the religious beliefs of the family they were born in.
I'm usually pretty pissed off when my family assume that I'm a christian just because I was christened, for instance.
Let people do their own choices and don't cry foul just because someone points out that you don't HAVE to pretend to share the same religious beliefs (or any at all) as your peers. If you believe that encouraging people to think by themselves is trying to shove an opposite viewpoint to your religion, then I can only assume that your religion is against free thinking.
Perhaps you just need to be more cross-functional.
Games that are short, with low replay value and I might add, usually lacking originality and interest these days, and still sold at an expensive price are not going to sell that much. Despite what starry-eyed bean counters hope.
I think there is some kind of distortion in the very fabric of the interwebs that makes Fark posts dupes all the time like slashdot and slashdot posts fark headline sized summaries these days.
I think they want to be sure that the thing is rock solid before making it general to the available public, so as to avoid to be more exposed to FUD attacks than necessary.
It wouldn't surprise me if the people who founded it and the investors didn't have any clue what it was either.
A pissed off customer is more likely to switch to another product as soon as he gets an opportunity to do so.
I don't think that MS has fostered much genuine loyalty from their customers, and I believe that they're going to wish they avoided to needlessly alienate people at some point.
"(Off topic follow up: in French is iPod pronounced "ee-PO"?)"
We generally keep the english pronunciation for english words. Well, a broken english pronunciation at least.
I say "aye-pod". French people tend to say "ee-pod", but I don't know of anyone dropping the d at the end.
You're right about "wagon", and "wisigoth". I don't know about "awalé".
:)
But the most commonly used words with W in french are pronounced roughly like in english: sandwich, wifi, clown, interview, watt, etc.
"wagon" and "wisigoth" are not employed very often (unless your work is related to trains, you're not going to talk about wagons very often)
When we see a W randomly put in a made-up word, we're intuitively going to pronounce it like in english, not v in any case
"W in French is pronounced like v."
No.
"WC" is the only thing where we pronounce it like v.
Actually, I can't even think of any french word that wasn't borrowed from english that has a W in it, so whenever we ever use it, we pronounce like in english.
And indeed, Wii does sound the same as "oui" in french.
It's in their best interest not to piss off their customers with gratuitous and pointless inconveniences.
They've been around for 30 years and they still don't get this. Just how dense are these people?
This is not different than Wine. Cringeley is just being an ignorant asshat.
Implementing the win32 api is made difficult by the lack of proper specifications of the API (as in defining the exact behavior of the API, or stating clearly what has an undefined behavior, etc.)
Even if it did exist, it wouldn't help much, as since there is essentially one official implementation of the API that everyone develops against, a lot of apps rely, intentionally or accidentaly, on side-effect or undefined behaviors caused by the way the API is implemented. Those quirks, in turn, needs to be emulated aswell to make apps work.
This is why microsoft offering the EU to give the source code to its stuff as a matter of documentation is not good, because you lack the information needed to distinguish what is part of the specs, and what is merely a side-effect of the implementation (not to mention those things that may be in their specs but missing from the implementation)
In any case, Apple cannot magically implement the windows API better than Wine on a short notice.
Indeed, even Microsoft has trouble updating their own OS without breaking third party apps (and probably even previous versions of their own apps).
"they're just forcing me to watch their "copying DVDs is piracy and is the same as mugguing someone so don't do it" bullshit. on a DVD I've just fucking bought anyway." That pisses me off, too. People who buy DVDs don't need to be told not to pirate them. People who pirate DVDs obviously don't care about those warnings, and can remove them so they are not forced to read them anymore. It's the same thing as with copy protections, really.
Agreed.
Defending free speech against IP laws is a good idea, but then it needs to be done both ways.
I'm french and I would definately consider the software patent laws in the US a violation of my free speech aswell.