Illegally downloading movies from sites such as these without proper authorization violates the law, is theft
But I HAVE legal authorization, I was doing it for time shifting!! How did fair use just drop out of the equation?
Bastards.
Your exactly right, copyright infringement is exactly what it is: copyright infringement; nothing more nothing less. And for fucks sake, its not theft, get it though your heads you tossers!
If you want to sue us for IP theft under current law, fine. But don't sue us with this brave-new-world-potentially-lost-profits bullshit.
Copyright is dependent upon technology, it changes and molds around it (not visa versa as with DRM systems). Thus new technology is making old copyright law obsolete and in need of reform. However this bites the current **AA business model and Heaven forbid a business model having to change around technology. So instead, why not redefine IP infringement as a cultural-moral absolute wrong? Call it theft? Theft doesn't change with technology; theft is always theft and always wrong. And presto your monopoly is now static, and technology is now bending around copyright law (because its now theft). Our computers are now DRM laden. And little Susy is now a multi-national terrorist for committing potential economic terrorism against major United States corporate entities by potentially detriment of lost sales.
Clever bastards.
Yeah, the disc loading sounds always blow away any surprise moments, whenever the disc starts to spin up you know something big is about to happen.
I've cycled though each of this generations systems and found gamecube to be my hands down favorite on design, hardware and especially noise factor.
Give a monkey pictures of women monkeys and he'll blow it on pictures of women monkeys ..I think everyones watched enough porn here to get what I'm saying.
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they could introduce a hack to remove all the busted-ugly icons and user interface. (I'm not trolling, I use it; I'd just like to see it get a +1 pretty modifier.)
Yeah, speaking of mouse obfuscation,
All new employees at wal-mart have to go through a series of CBLs (Computer Based Learning crap) designed to minimized any and all new employee training costs. Subsequently this why half the people there are so under trained...anydangway I used to work there, and the amount of people who didn't grasp the concept of a mouse was almost surprising, even for your average worker.
Specifically I remember an instance where this guy was trying to press both mouse buttons at the same time to advance to the next slide, and was getting baffled by the context menus popping up.
"that's my way of doing things in response to such companies. And I doubt that I'm alone."
No you're not alone, but unfortunately you're still in the very small minority...small enough, practically speaking to probably cause a divide by zero error when taking the quotient of the majority by it. Hence EA writes off the spite of bad consumers like you as a cost of business, same as their programmers. There will always be stupid programmers willing to work for them...just as their will always be stupid consumers willing to by from them.
Bittorrent, restate my assumptions: The success of Bittorrent was primarily attributed to the efficient manor in which large files could be distributed across the network. Its centralized nature, despite hindering anonymity, greatly improved the quality of its content; acting as a mechanism for repelling unwanted (poor quality, miss labeled) files.
eXeem, although emulating and improving upon these features, fails to target the appropriate market which will ultimately sustain it. Through spyware bundling and platform locking, they instantly repel a core segment of advanced users. These users are primarily responsible for the 'creation' and initial injection of new content onto the network. Denying these users inherently denies the network the ability to directly acquire new content; they're damming themselves into becoming another FastTrack network.
Unless they open up their standards or allow for breached (hacked) client access, the only thing we're going to have here is an improved way for disseminating gonzo porn and mislabeled 24khz mp3s.
If you create something really novel, even if it is in software, why *shouldn't* you be able to get a patent on it?
12:02 Restate my assumptions:
1. Mathematics is the language of nature.
2. Principals and ideas in mathematics are universal truths; hence they are discovered, not created.
3. Computer science is the straight forward application of discreet mathematics. Thus ideas and algorithms written in computers are not patentable.
"When a transaction is complete, the user has an identical copy of the file on his or her computer..."
I could write a program right now to generate files of the same length as britney_oops.mp3 and fill them w/ random bits, and eventually I would have a copy of it verbatim, without ever having access to the original or a p2p program. Sure I might not know which one is the true copy but, that raises the question: am I a criminal for possessing or using the algorithm and seed to generate that file? Probably...so shouldn't we be trying to ban random number generaters too?
I can just see it now: Pentagon claims they lost the battle due to lag...
"OMG afaganastan you were so Fuxed, were going to p0wn j00 a$$...until bush started downloading a teribyte of porn and we got lagged while camping the spawn point."
That's a very excellent point, shows how fucking retarded this is...
Say company X is downloading a file potentially being used to violate its IP. As it's downloading it for validation, it's naturally also uploading it to others at the same time. Once it gets the file, it finds that it actually belongs to company Y. Uh-Oh looks like company X just knowingly and willingly participated in IP theft (or worse paid BayTSP/third party to commit the crime on their behalf.)
Are they going to sue company Y? NO course not, because corporations can do no wrong...
Friggi'n hypocrites. They rig and price-fix the market, stomping any laws outside of their best interest. Yet complain and scoff whenever we infringe on any of the most stupid laws in the books.
I have no remorse for 'stealing' from them.
Well obviously the network will have an electoral collage system of writers set in place, to keep the stupid masses from truly having what they want. The writers will really run the whole show; from time to time they may base their decisions off the popular vote, just enough to keep the facade of democracy up..."The viewers really don't know what they want, or what's good for them. Their votes would never constitute a good show, so lets do it our way. Truly it's what's best for them." -> It will be totalitarian ruled by second season, guaranteed.
No it's different, it is not a direct comparison. In the bank scenario the person carrying the fake gun is still intending to do harm. He is still intending to steal money from the bank, just not willing to bring anyone else into danger but himself.
Now as for what you said pertaining to copyright infringement and its illegality, yes people who violate copyright break the current set of laws, and therefore are 'criminals' according to the state (But keep in mind, laws don't make things right or wrong, they just make things illegal.) Criminals should be punished fairly, honestly and justly, in respect to the magnitude of the crimes they committed. This is the basis of our legal system. Wouldn't it be wrong to send someone to jail for 20 years for a crime that only requires a small fine? That's like arguing a bit torrent user should go to jail for the same length of time as the person who holds up the back teller with the real gun.
There are crimes, and there are just punishments. These Are NOT! (Assuming that our society still even morally conceders IP theft a crime, in which case these laws should be stricken.)
Hogwash! Write first, optimize later...what are the chances that I can write a better sorting algorithm than one included in a standard library that was written by some who studied sorting algorithms? Close to zero.
Now whose fault is that? hmmmm?
Hopefully you just misread the grandparents post because it sounds like your proclaiming that through ignorance we can write more efficient code.
"There is no substitute for knowing how to write your own sort routines, specialized linked lists, and binary trees"
And he's right, there is no substitute to understanding how the things you use work -> it's how you know to use them effectively. Skilled programmers write faster programs than noobs because they understand how the hardware works; no exceptions.
And this is the root of the problem; with all the excess CPU 'speed' lying around in the 90's programmers got lazy and the next generation were born even lazier. Why bother learning to write faster code when in 6 months it will be fast.
Just as a test how many people in your code farm actually know O(n) and other simple methods of algorythmics?
Furthermore the standardized general solutions found in API's and libraries are just that -> solutions for general problems. They're most certainly not optimized for unique cases inside your application; thus leaving huge benefits un-reaped.
And this is why I'm not worried about outsourcing; there are millions of programmers out there but very few good ones. And good programmers are employed. And according to this article will be in higher demand than ever before.
"it has nothing to do with rights or DRM, it's a simple matter of average joe's seeing that things doesn't work the way they used to. and he/she will not buy any more of them because these things "don't work."
That's true, up to a point of about 6 months after the initial advertising campaign and product release. I used to work at Wal-Mart (sucked hard) and every consumer there initially hated DVDs, because their old "videos don't work no more." Then after a few months of advertising sinks into their thick skulls, and they see some of their friends with them...Poof DVDs are embraced and Joe's now working hard to 'convert' his old 300 piece VHS collection to DVD; fool.
Combine this new campaign with a dangling carrot of 'further increased quality' or simply being cooler than traditional DVDs, and in six months everyone will be snarfing them down as if they had a disposable income; fools.
It's not about the technology, DRM doesn't matter; all that matters is how it's marketed. If enough non DRM alternatives are removed from Wal-Mart shelves, what do you think people are going to do? Grumble, and then stuff it into their cart just as their told.
Despite popular opinion, mentioning 'linux' and 'server' in the same post will not get you modded up. Especially in the wake of ubisoft employees who are about to start getting bitch slapped by ea.
In closing, no there is no silver lining; ea is a ruthless and horrible company, one who doesn't even recognize programmers as human beings. Whether they port game severs to linux or not, is totally irrelevant. And I actually find it offensive that you would even bring such a thing up in this discussion, as it's a very serious matter for those of us who do or will be working in the game industry.
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Illegally downloading movies from sites such as these without proper authorization violates the law, is theft
But I HAVE legal authorization, I was doing it for time shifting!! How did fair use just drop out of the equation?
Bastards.
Your exactly right, copyright infringement is exactly what it is: copyright infringement; nothing more nothing less.
And for fucks sake, its not theft, get it though your heads you tossers!
If you want to sue us for IP theft under current law, fine. But don't sue us with this brave-new-world-potentially-lost-profits bullshit.
Copyright is dependent upon technology, it changes and molds around it (not visa versa as with DRM systems). Thus new technology is making old copyright law obsolete and in need of reform. However this bites the current **AA business model and Heaven forbid a business model having to change around technology. So instead, why not redefine IP infringement as a cultural-moral absolute wrong? Call it theft? Theft doesn't change with technology; theft is always theft and always wrong. And presto your monopoly is now static, and technology is now bending around copyright law (because its now theft). Our computers are now DRM laden. And little Susy is now a multi-national terrorist for committing potential economic terrorism against major United States corporate entities by potentially detriment of lost sales.
Clever bastards.
"When playing dramatic games like Silent Hill"
Yeah, the disc loading sounds always blow away any surprise moments, whenever the disc starts to spin up you know something big is about to happen.
I've cycled though each of this generations systems and found gamecube to be my hands down favorite on design, hardware and especially noise factor.
Hey everybody! Obligatory OGG/Vorbis post detected. MOD IT! :)
Give a monkey pictures of women monkeys and he'll blow it on pictures of women monkeys
..I think everyones watched enough porn here to get what I'm saying.
oh snap!, that is quite sexy, thanks for the clicky-clicky.
In midwinter 2005, the last of the EEF Server populous was driven to extinction by the trolls of Slashdot. Despite the valiant attempts of dedicated individuals to artificially reintroduce the species back into its habitat, though mirrors and Google caches, they were ultimately unsuccessful. They were simply outnumbered and natural selection ran its course.
they could introduce a hack to remove all the busted-ugly icons and user interface.
(I'm not trolling, I use it; I'd just like to see it get a +1 pretty modifier.)
Yeah, speaking of mouse obfuscation,
All new employees at wal-mart have to go through a series of CBLs (Computer Based Learning crap) designed to minimized any and all new employee training costs. Subsequently this why half the people there are so under trained...anydangway I used to work there, and the amount of people who didn't grasp the concept of a mouse was almost surprising, even for your average worker.
Specifically I remember an instance where this guy was trying to press both mouse buttons at the same time to advance to the next slide, and was getting baffled by the context menus popping up.
"that's my way of doing things in response to such companies. And I doubt that I'm alone."
No you're not alone, but unfortunately you're still in the very small minority...small enough, practically speaking to probably cause a divide by zero error when taking the quotient of the majority by it.
Hence EA writes off the spite of bad consumers like you as a cost of business, same as their programmers. There will always be stupid programmers willing to work for them...just as their will always be stupid consumers willing to by from them.
Bittorrent, restate my assumptions:
The success of Bittorrent was primarily attributed to the efficient manor in which large files could be distributed across the network. Its centralized nature, despite hindering anonymity, greatly improved the quality of its content; acting as a mechanism for repelling unwanted (poor quality, miss labeled) files.
eXeem, although emulating and improving upon these features, fails to target the appropriate market which will ultimately sustain it. Through spyware bundling and platform locking, they instantly repel a core segment of advanced users. These users are primarily responsible for the 'creation' and initial injection of new content onto the network. Denying these users inherently denies the network the ability to directly acquire new content; they're damming themselves into becoming another FastTrack network.
Unless they open up their standards or allow for breached (hacked) client access, the only thing we're going to have here is an improved way for disseminating gonzo porn and mislabeled 24khz mp3s.
Sorry, I already called it; no Beowulf jokes.
If you create something really novel, even if it is in software, why *shouldn't* you be able to get a patent on it?
12:02 Restate my assumptions:
1. Mathematics is the language of nature.
2. Principals and ideas in mathematics are universal truths; hence they are discovered, not created.
3. Computer science is the straight forward application of discreet mathematics. Thus ideas and algorithms written in computers are not patentable.
"When a transaction is complete, the user has an identical copy of the file on his or her computer..."
I could write a program right now to generate files of the same length as britney_oops.mp3 and fill them w/ random bits, and eventually I would have a copy of it verbatim, without ever having access to the original or a p2p program. Sure I might not know which one is the true copy but, that raises the question: am I a criminal for possessing or using the algorithm and seed to generate that file? Probably...so shouldn't we be trying to ban random number generaters too?
I can just see it now: Pentagon claims they lost the battle due to lag...
"OMG afaganastan you were so Fuxed, were going to p0wn j00 a$$...until bush started downloading a teribyte of porn and we got lagged while camping the spawn point."
That's a very excellent point, shows how fucking retarded this is...
Say company X is downloading a file potentially being used to violate its IP. As it's downloading it for validation, it's naturally also uploading it to others at the same time. Once it gets the file, it finds that it actually belongs to company Y. Uh-Oh looks like company X just knowingly and willingly participated in IP theft (or worse paid BayTSP/third party to commit the crime on their behalf.)
Are they going to sue company Y? NO course not, because corporations can do no wrong...
Friggi'n hypocrites. They rig and price-fix the market, stomping any laws outside of their best interest. Yet complain and scoff whenever we infringe on any of the most stupid laws in the books.
I have no remorse for 'stealing' from them.
Well obviously the network will have an electoral collage system of writers set in place, to keep the stupid masses from truly having what they want. The writers will really run the whole show; from time to time they may base their decisions off the popular vote, just enough to keep the facade of democracy up..."The viewers really don't know what they want, or what's good for them. Their votes would never constitute a good show, so lets do it our way. Truly it's what's best for them." -> It will be totalitarian ruled by second season, guaranteed.
Hell yes!! Now if only I can get someone to let test out their pot smoking robot...
Don't try to fool us with your percentages; statistics can be used to prove anything, 85% of all people know that...
No, but these two chicks up stairs will be if they keep it up...
No it's different, it is not a direct comparison. In the bank scenario the person carrying the fake gun is still intending to do harm. He is still intending to steal money from the bank, just not willing to bring anyone else into danger but himself.
Now as for what you said pertaining to copyright infringement and its illegality, yes people who violate copyright break the current set of laws, and therefore are 'criminals' according to the state (But keep in mind, laws don't make things right or wrong, they just make things illegal.) Criminals should be punished fairly, honestly and justly, in respect to the magnitude of the crimes they committed. This is the basis of our legal system. Wouldn't it be wrong to send someone to jail for 20 years for a crime that only requires a small fine? That's like arguing a bit torrent user should go to jail for the same length of time as the person who holds up the back teller with the real gun.
There are crimes, and there are just punishments. These Are NOT! (Assuming that our society still even morally conceders IP theft a crime, in which case these laws should be stricken.)
Hogwash! Write first, optimize later...what are the chances that I can write a better sorting algorithm than one included in a standard library that was written by some who studied sorting algorithms? Close to zero.
Now whose fault is that? hmmmm?
Hopefully you just misread the grandparents post because it sounds like your proclaiming that through ignorance we can write more efficient code.
"There is no substitute for knowing how to write your own sort routines, specialized linked lists, and binary trees"
And he's right, there is no substitute to understanding how the things you use work -> it's how you know to use them effectively. Skilled programmers write faster programs than noobs because they understand how the hardware works; no exceptions.
And this is the root of the problem; with all the excess CPU 'speed' lying around in the 90's programmers got lazy and the next generation were born even lazier. Why bother learning to write faster code when in 6 months it will be fast.
Just as a test how many people in your code farm actually know O(n) and other simple methods of algorythmics?
Furthermore the standardized general solutions found in API's and libraries are just that -> solutions for general problems. They're most certainly not optimized for unique cases inside your application; thus leaving huge benefits un-reaped.
And this is why I'm not worried about outsourcing; there are millions of programmers out there but very few good ones. And good programmers are employed. And according to this article will be in higher demand than ever before.
"it has nothing to do with rights or DRM, it's a simple matter of average joe's seeing that things doesn't work the way they used to. and he/she will not buy any more of them because these things "don't work."
That's true, up to a point of about 6 months after the initial advertising campaign and product release. I used to work at Wal-Mart (sucked hard) and every consumer there initially hated DVDs, because their old "videos don't work no more." Then after a few months of advertising sinks into their thick skulls, and they see some of their friends with them...Poof DVDs are embraced and Joe's now working hard to 'convert' his old 300 piece VHS collection to DVD; fool.
Combine this new campaign with a dangling carrot of 'further increased quality' or simply being cooler than traditional DVDs, and in six months everyone will be snarfing them down as if they had a disposable income; fools.
It's not about the technology, DRM doesn't matter; all that matters is how it's marketed. If enough non DRM alternatives are removed from Wal-Mart shelves, what do you think people are going to do? Grumble, and then stuff it into their cart just as their told.
Because Ubi knows that EA's got all the football players from Madden 2001, 2002, 2003, 20004, and 2005 backing them up.
Despite popular opinion, mentioning 'linux' and 'server' in the same post will not get you modded up. Especially in the wake of ubisoft employees who are about to start getting bitch slapped by ea.
In closing, no there is no silver lining; ea is a ruthless and horrible company, one who doesn't even recognize programmers as human beings. Whether they port game severs to linux or not, is totally irrelevant. And I actually find it offensive that you would even bring such a thing up in this discussion, as it's a very serious matter for those of us who do or will be working in the game industry.