The main beef is that we do not worship Allah and so we are not human and so it is okay to kill us.
Strange I've never heard any muslim claim this. And I did google 'islam koran unbelievers' the first page a selection of christian 'dialog' sites, which make the same claims as you.
However doesn't the christian faith say if you're a non-believer you goto hell to burn in the fires of damnation for eternity etc. etc. aswell though?
Ahhh religeous dogma, the only problem is all the religions tend to say the same thing.
Your argument falls down due to the fact that we also support terrorist organisations and governments. It jus depends if they're on our side or not.
So as far as the people are concered they would rather have a terrorist organisation with popular support in control as opposed to one installed by a foreign power. Not all that unreasonable wouldn't you say?
Translation: you are referring to "democratic" regimes that have a fascist view toward the idea that private economic affairs should be controlled by the government (something that never improves the situation of the people)
As opposed to being controlled by us (the western democracies)? Translation: when they do it it's fascism, when we do it it's for the greater good.
Can you name examples where you think the West has done this? I bet you will name Nicaragua, Cuba, Venezuela (recently under Chavez), Guatemala, Mossadegh's Iran, and South Vietnam.
Now, cross-reference these countries with the countries that are generate the terrorists. You will find very little overlap.
I fail to see how the country of origin of any terrorist is at all relevant? Nicaragua, Panama, Guatemala, South East Asia, Middle East are all examples of western intervention, hopefully your not debating that. What you will find is strong popular opposition in these areas against the regimes installed there and anti-western sentiment.
I get the feeling your about to go down the rhetorical path and bring morality into the equation. Im not trying to debate the right or wrongs of socialism/capitalism just stating the facts.
that is so far from the mostly-religious goals of the Muslim terrorist groups as to be entirely off the page.
Rubbish, so now you're accusing religion as the primary factor of terrorist support? Religion is just a means to an end. I think you will find that the actions of our governments in these countries is what provides the initial support.
It doesn't suprise me you posted AC for that. Who exactly is to blame for invading the country and creating the power vacuum. This is the people's fault?
The Basque/ETA situation admittedly has a completely different historical context so why your refering to it confuses me really. I think the main 'beef' of the current wave of terrorism levelled against the west is the fact that we won't permit any state to democratically elect a regime that disagrees with privatisation of the local industry (read externalising profits so they come our way). When the people do try to improve their situation we destroy the movement either economicaly,covertly, or through direct military action. This has happened many times its a matter of fact.
This really seems to piss people off for some reason.
I'm not sure that it's the lack of good games (there is the odd good game out there, although I can't think of any off the top of my head!). Rather the fact that in order to maximise profits games companies completely saturate the market with 'sequels', add-ons and all the other crap that fills the space between the creative and orginal games.
You've got ask yourself, if the reporter has been caught staging photographs before why was this one ever accepted?
I also don't understand why you think the 'other sides' argument should be dismissed? You then label it as propaganda, as though nearly all international stories aren't mis-represented to favour the market it is aimed at. Believe it or not Hezbollah has strong popular support in the region, do you know why? Because the people feel as though they don't have a voice. That's why they turn to organisations such as Hezbollah. So what does the western media do? Dismisses their argument as propaganda...
Don't worry though. Assuming the US can destroy Hezbollah in the coming weeks (well they've managed to crush all the popular uprisings before, south-east asia/south america) a peace treaty will suddenly be agreed upon and a 'moderate' government restored. Then you won't have to worry youself with the 'other sides' argument.
If the only thing men wanted was to live their short lives peacefully and raise a family, then nobody would care if he was being watched. It is the need to hide something that calls for privacy.
Your analysis is almost as overly simplified as the original statement and assumes impartiality of the system. The problem is our current society is a juxtaposition between the everyman (trying to live his/her life and raise a family) and large scale corporations that have evolved to extract increasing revenue wherever possible which in turn is distributed between the top couple percent of the population. Like it or not money=power, and the ability to influence all sorts of things... So you have a small percentage of the population with enormous power and an inherant desire to keep things the way they are. The problem with an organisation that monitors every aspect of daily life should be obvious.
Where were the repercussions for the offending officer though?
The simple fact is the police can arrest you at anytime if they don't like what your doing, under the guise of being drunk/abusive/offensive etc. It's more hassle than its worth to try and make a complaint and even then it's unlikely any action will be taken (your word against theirs) also police are just people and 'people make mistakes'. So what happens is as a citizen do you stand up and have the inconvinience of spending the night in a cell? no, it ends up being far easier to just do as they say...
I've stopped moderating over the last 6 months or so precisely because my mods were constantly being revoked as unfair. I haven't changed my moderating style, just the usual +1 intersting/informative, +1 funny for anything that particularly tickles me. More hassle than its worth lately though.
Maybe I'm showing my ignorance of physics here, but wouldn't it be irrelevant what their orbital speed is? I'd think the only thing that would matter is their velocity towards or away from the Earth's gravitational center.
Remember your in orbit. Ideally the velocity towards earth would be 0. If you want to go lower you thrust retrograde (backwards) and the opposite point of your orbit will reduce.
Now if you thrust in towards the mass your orbiting, well im actually not quite sure what would happen but intuitively i dont think you would lower your orbit.
Professor: "I didn't say anything about animals. Now it seems the planet will collapse within three days. Incidentally, this will kill all the animals."
Bravo. I'm just happy that I don't have to worry about the invading horde comming over the hills to rape our women, kill our men and steal our food because the crops are in season.
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Strange I've never heard any muslim claim this. And I did google 'islam koran unbelievers' the first page a selection of christian 'dialog' sites, which make the same claims as you.
However doesn't the christian faith say if you're a non-believer you goto hell to burn in the fires of damnation for eternity etc. etc. aswell though?
Ahhh religeous dogma, the only problem is all the religions tend to say the same thing.
So as far as the people are concered they would rather have a terrorist organisation with popular support in control as opposed to one installed by a foreign power. Not all that unreasonable wouldn't you say?
As opposed to being controlled by us (the western democracies)? Translation: when they do it it's fascism, when we do it it's for the greater good.
Can you name examples where you think the West has done this? I bet you will name Nicaragua, Cuba, Venezuela (recently under Chavez), Guatemala, Mossadegh's Iran, and South Vietnam.
Now, cross-reference these countries with the countries that are generate the terrorists. You will find very little overlap.
I fail to see how the country of origin of any terrorist is at all relevant? Nicaragua, Panama, Guatemala, South East Asia, Middle East are all examples of western intervention, hopefully your not debating that. What you will find is strong popular opposition in these areas against the regimes installed there and anti-western sentiment.
I get the feeling your about to go down the rhetorical path and bring morality into the equation. Im not trying to debate the right or wrongs of socialism/capitalism just stating the facts.
Rubbish, so now you're accusing religion as the primary factor of terrorist support? Religion is just a means to an end. I think you will find that the actions of our governments in these countries is what provides the initial support.
It doesn't suprise me you posted AC for that. Who exactly is to blame for invading the country and creating the power vacuum. This is the people's fault?
This really seems to piss people off for some reason.
Or, you could say, until we stop bombing the shit out of/subjugating/exploiting the third world in general...
I also don't understand why you think the 'other sides' argument should be dismissed? You then label it as propaganda, as though nearly all international stories aren't mis-represented to favour the market it is aimed at. Believe it or not Hezbollah has strong popular support in the region, do you know why? Because the people feel as though they don't have a voice. That's why they turn to organisations such as Hezbollah. So what does the western media do? Dismisses their argument as propaganda...
Don't worry though. Assuming the US can destroy Hezbollah in the coming weeks (well they've managed to crush all the popular uprisings before, south-east asia/south america) a peace treaty will suddenly be agreed upon and a 'moderate' government restored. Then you won't have to worry youself with the 'other sides' argument.
Not very democratic though is it.
Actualy cosmologist's come up with a new theory or revise an old one. The media just misreports it as the gospel and the general public follow suit...
Your analysis is almost as overly simplified as the original statement and assumes impartiality of the system. The problem is our current society is a juxtaposition between the everyman (trying to live his/her life and raise a family) and large scale corporations that have evolved to extract increasing revenue wherever possible which in turn is distributed between the top couple percent of the population. Like it or not money=power, and the ability to influence all sorts of things... So you have a small percentage of the population with enormous power and an inherant desire to keep things the way they are. The problem with an organisation that monitors every aspect of daily life should be obvious.
The simple fact is the police can arrest you at anytime if they don't like what your doing, under the guise of being drunk/abusive/offensive etc. It's more hassle than its worth to try and make a complaint and even then it's unlikely any action will be taken (your word against theirs) also police are just people and 'people make mistakes'. So what happens is as a citizen do you stand up and have the inconvinience of spending the night in a cell? no, it ends up being far easier to just do as they say...
I believe Diabolik already has a deposit down.
I like everything about this idea except for the words "Microsoft" and "patent".
So that would be like eating a vindaloo and lighting farts.
I've stopped moderating over the last 6 months or so precisely because my mods were constantly being revoked as unfair. I haven't changed my moderating style, just the usual +1 intersting/informative, +1 funny for anything that particularly tickles me. More hassle than its worth lately though.
Remember your in orbit. Ideally the velocity towards earth would be 0. If you want to go lower you thrust retrograde (backwards) and the opposite point of your orbit will reduce.
Now if you thrust in towards the mass your orbiting, well im actually not quite sure what would happen but intuitively i dont think you would lower your orbit.
You would be suprised
Because there isn't enough fuel.
Infact, forget futurama the blackjack!
Professor: "The wha?"
Leela: "The animals."
Professor: "I didn't say anything about animals. Now it seems the planet will collapse within three days. Incidentally, this will kill all the animals."
But I like wearing glasses?
Ahem... Aren't you forgetting about terrorists?
$25 a month for housing and food!
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