While this still could be worse, you are correct on one thing: Win2k in schools.
Spent the summer working at a local university. There was superfluous opportunity to embezzle a lot of money; as we were instituting their absolutely awful new HR software--which also meant I got to see how much all the bigwigs and upper-administrators (read: idiots puffed full of their own self importance) made off of hard-working students. (I was brought on as a Data Technician; not support or PC repair or what-have-you)
When the machines in our semi-secret office (All W2K) were infected with a virus (Don't ask me, I no longer remember, but I went & read the writeup @ symanted then, which told me it was able to cross-propogate through the network once it landed on one machine) I of course decided to quarantine the bastard myself first... I then realized what I had most feared--that these machines were all set up to Track who was using them; but not to actually restrict Anyone from Anything. Thats right, Joe Schmoe user could do anything he wanted; from registry-hacking to whatever your heart desired.
So; I managed to isolate this guy and the three other viruses that were wandering through the War-Room (thats what we called it); but I didn't purge, at this point I was too intrigued, so I summoned the IT guys.
4 hours later ONE guy (who looks like a plumber, and not even Mario) shows up, and begins, well, piddling (there's no other word for it.... he threw in an admin password and started checking completely unnecessary settings, then attempting to read the reports that their Tracking software creates, presumably to get to the root of the problem) with the machines after pretending he doesn't need me to tell him what I've done so far. His expression gets more and more bored, and after about another hour and a half, he tells my boss (one of them aforementioned admin-types) that he can't find anything wrong, and she should watch 'that new guy'.
I'm pretty sure they heard my jaw hit the floor on the other side of campus. A week later I had recieved the job offer I'd been counting on from the local cable service provider; and I headed for the hills, washing my hands of the whole situation, and terribly glad the only records tying my name to the lpace were strictly paper-based.
I checked in on it with a friend of mine who's a student there. He moved here from China, and is still a little unpolished with his english, but I heard this loud and clear: "Oh my FUCKING GOD man! Half the computers on campus are FUCKED!"
I can only assume that Mr. Plumber did not get anyone to look into the virus.
I have no idea how much that mistake cost the University; but I do know that once it was cleaned out, nothing changed. They are merrily running the exact same sytems setup the exact same way; probably every one of em mapped off the mirror sitting in the IT department.
So yes, I do believe that this could have MUCH wider-effect than you believe.
" Didn't read TFA but that never stops me. I think..."
Obligatory RTFA.
Read the article, don't jump on here calling other people's quite valid interpretations down because "you think" you know better 'just because.'
Here, you ass-hats get away with it, cuz slashdot is all about anyone's opinion; but even then, I always try to mod people like you down.
Pull yer head out yer ass, get some facts, then make a contribution that's actually worthwhile to read--just like this new system on the Wikipedia is Hoping to encourage.
This sort of "equation" has it's basis in Quackery, and has been around for years; if I cared enough I think IIRC, that we even had the "equation of a Sitcom" posted and discussed here earlier on.
Howzabout we actually get an article that's worth discussing? This submission is pathetic.
Go ahead mods, do yer worst. I refuse to swallow this tripe.
It's to late and I'm too lazy to look up models & linksites, but BENQ has a very sweet lil lappy keyboard.
I've been tempted several times to liberate my buddy's. And it's less than.5" tall, so not much reaching up if you toss it onto your (physical) desk top and rest your wrists.
And so, flamewar aside; I have to agree with your point here.
North America is currently caught in a cycle. "You don't need to know that" and "I can't understand why people would do that" are two common themes I hear in many day-to-day social conversations.... our kids don't take advantage of the learning resources they have because they are constantly taught that 'in the real world, you are rewarded not for what you do, but how good you look doing it.'
I find that everyone my wife and I have met from abroad and when abroad--Europe, Asia, Africa, even Australia in a different way--they seem to see the value in getting an appropriate education; understand the (introvert/thinking man)'s joy in activities like improving efficiency, building something for the sole purpose of destroying it; playing video games, actually hunting or harvesting the food you plan to eat, using UBUNTU Not just because you refuse to get BSOD'd again, but because you Like being able to actually improve the software you use.
I also see them rewarding intelligence and capability far more often than having a particular character.
All of these are also qualities I see in those who have been through times when they've really had to fight to survive, and those who have reached a certain level of success.... (which is relative to each of those I have had the pleasure of interacting with.)
This s something I strongly believe we will have to rectify; I believe I see the beginnings of change in a renewed work ethic in people among my age group, say 5 years back to 10 years ahead of me (19-34) which I can only hope bodes well for the turns society is going to take in the next 20 years.
I can only hope it means we won't be too technologically behind by tthe time I have school-aged children.
I've yet to understand the supposed principle that the Powers That Be or the Media could possibly figure out any kind of accurate figures on illegal activites.
Dunno 'bout the rest of you guys here, but I never told the police or the press how much profit I made back when I was a small time dealer (can't touch me, young offenders act!:p)
If I didn't, you can be damn sure that big-time or organized criminals do not share these figures either.
Neither do the users. (How many crack-heads report the amount they spend on their habit?)
So what the hell is the premise on which these "statistics" have ever been based on?
I can think of a few ways to fudge up some statistics about people screwed outta their money on the net, but I can't see a way to truly gauge that either. Again, if I fell for the "send me a grand and I'll send you a million" I sure as hell wouldn't tell anyone I was that stupid.
Hence, I dub the entire original article as BS, just like the 'War on Drugs' and even the 'War on Spam'/end rant:p
So, while this stuff is very kewl, and in particular I've been following development on artificial hands (as far as I know, only the face is more complex), it raises in me the question of what it will bring with it in the near future....
Cybernetic implants are under development as well, including the borg-like communications chip that most of us would have seen on 'How William Shatner changed the Universe'
So on top of all the typical moral concerns this subject raises, in the days when we're as much technology as human being, what will be the complications when our complex implants' OS gives us the equivalent of the BSOD?
This kind of a guide is extra sweet for folks like me, who Aren't hardcore Linux users/coders. (To Many 'advanced users' the occasional function string or what-have-you is expected, but having to open up your source code every time you make a change--e.g.: replacing your $10 keyboard with a new, slightly different $10 keyboard--is too much of a bloody hassle)
Makes it a touch easier to gauge whether it's Worth said bloody hassle for a particular desired result--setting up my spiffy home theatre thru Linux, or (no flame-age plz, I know the sacriledge I speak here) Winblows Media Edition.
This sort of guide, made readily available, can only assist linux penetration.
Oh, and the first two posts are exactly the sort of reason I can't stand slashdot more than occasionally anymore. Chock-Full-o-Trolls I'm thinking we all could use some sort of alternate forum...
Microsoft swears by it's "independent" studies that windows is better, faster, cheaper!
And besides, what about licencing? You absolutely have to have that!
OMFG! And I almost forgot, you actually OWN your installed copy of linux, as opposed to MSWXP! Why, why would you actually want to OWN the software you pay money for? Are you crazy?
Up is down! Down is up! The world doesn't make any sense anymore!
PS: For any of us not up to snuff on employment lingo, pogey is employment insurance, unemployment insurance, or whatever name for a social assistance program your respective government cooked up.
Now, firstly, yay! I've loved the idea of RAID arrayed drives since I first heard of it about 2 years ago when my friend was writing linux drivers for a company's (obligatorily namelessness) RAID Card. The technology has some very high potential, but it has very much sat by the wayside. Seeing a major hardware manufacturer target a product to the RAID crowd means it's starting to get some industry clout, which I for one think is mucho overdue.
Secondly; however, the article seems very short on technical specs:
"In works better in RAID" according to.....?
I may just be the only one, but must ask, what telemarketers?
I get calls every week from my creditors, but they're my own damn fault. I only recieved one unsolicited call last year, and I took pity on the poor schmuck and did his 40 minute survey so he wouldn't have to worry about feeding his kids (read: drug habit) that night.
So, yeah, they can resist making a dnc list all they like, so far as I'm concerned, cuz I'm not harassed anywhere near as much as those poor folks I used to call almost 10 years ago, when I was a call-bot.
We've been working on the Katrina missing persons wiki, PeopleFinder
and this has allowed us to see some emails from people right in the red zone. There are some people from religious organizations looking to help those kept in the donated church cabin complexes, and seeing that its a goddamn FEMA detainee camp. These people are going to be treated like cattle, like people were in WW2, in Korea, in Vietnam.... My guess is we will not see many of them ever again, if any. For one person's experience, you can go here:
So, it comes as no surprise to me whatsoever that they are trying to keep all communications locked down. Nevermind the fack that FEMA=[pig-fucker]Cheney.
You really need to pay some attention before spewing forth about other developments.
If you'd actually been paying attention you'd have noticed that the "Shadow Hand" is a prototype for industrial applications and such. Not medicine.
While their products is also sweet, it is NOT something to compare to prosthetics. That puppy comes with a large pneumatic cylinder attached... might make it a *tad* conspicuous out and about.
Yeah... I've been meaning to do this for awhile. 2 rants about him is enough for me. Zonk, your continued refusal to actually give a shit about your contributions to slashdot have finally pushed people too far.
In lieu of being able to fire you or publicly mutilate your carcass in front of the hordes of slashdotters you've pissed off slathering for your blood, you are hereby Exiled from ever being viewed by my eyes again.
Ye boys are missing the point on that one; you can't pirate WoW (tho thats disputible), but, keeping prices low allows it to compete in a market where games are normally close to free, which *are* pirated.
I don't know about you; but I for one didn't find this funny at all.
Aside from this supposedly being a forum for discussion of ACTUAL FUCKING NEWS, YOU STUPID ASSHOLE ZONK (subtlety not being my forte after 16 hr work days for 14 days running) I find this article itself in ridiculously poor taste.
United States corporations, media, and politicians control the flow of information to you gibbering primates on a daily basis, and Will go this far if you allow them to. Perhaps not "The Almighty" Google... but then again, 'they' (the aforementioned) already control every other place you get information, so if 'they' want to control the one place people speak their minds, who do you think they'll approach first?
Keep laughing. See how funny it is when you get dubbed an 'enemy of the state' because of your now-typical daily online activities.
And just in case by some wild freak of/., I'm not already flamebait, wake up you ignorant American bastards.
Mods be damned, Scuttlemonkey's submissions are getting more and more similar to mass-media headlines. This title has the express purpose of starting a flamewar on the world's most popular anti-ms site.
It makes IE look somewhat like firefox, and adds some lacking functionality that makes it work somewhat like firefox. The two are neither identical nor interchangable.
Interesting Read, if you're fond of raving. Like much of the "stories" and "articles" that abound on the 'net, radio, and TV; this is one person's completely misleading opinion backed by the sketchiest of facts.
Google is just getting warmed up. They did not create 'a brain drain in the industry' (too tired to link to more slashdot, go look), snatching up the most talented people with good wages, just to peak at this stage.
As any geek who's been watching and analyzing google for awhile (I'm sure there are plenty of us here!) knows intrisically, Google is just warming up.
Maybe we don't 'know' what they plan to do. However, if they keep developing these highly effective solutions, and tie them together, the masses will soon have a completely different view on what the computer can be used for.
They're already touted by a large % of geeks (read: tech-savvy-users). As all their 'developing projects' evolve, we will see some decisive corporate actions. As for the 'black box'... well, If I planned to knock microsuck from their throne of power, I wouldn't let the cat out of the bag, either.
I mean, shit, to many of us slashdotters, 'microsoft' and 'evil' are interchangable words.... so it certainly fits in with "do no evil":^p
I don't care. I refuse to support Intel or Microsoft. Neither offers me any of the 'features' I want, but they want me to pay them so they can own my data.
Hence your advertisements mean nothing to me.
Now if only I could mod this article as flamebait.
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While this still could be worse, you are correct on one thing: Win2k in schools.
Spent the summer working at a local university. There was superfluous opportunity to embezzle a lot of money; as we were instituting their absolutely awful new HR software--which also meant I got to see how much all the bigwigs and upper-administrators (read: idiots puffed full of their own self importance) made off of hard-working students. (I was brought on as a Data Technician; not support or PC repair or what-have-you)
When the machines in our semi-secret office (All W2K) were infected with a virus (Don't ask me, I no longer remember, but I went & read the writeup @ symanted then, which told me it was able to cross-propogate through the network once it landed on one machine) I of course decided to quarantine the bastard myself first... I then realized what I had most feared--that these machines were all set up to Track who was using them; but not to actually restrict Anyone from Anything. Thats right, Joe Schmoe user could do anything he wanted; from registry-hacking to whatever your heart desired.
So; I managed to isolate this guy and the three other viruses that were wandering through the War-Room (thats what we called it); but I didn't purge, at this point I was too intrigued, so I summoned the IT guys.
4 hours later ONE guy (who looks like a plumber, and not even Mario) shows up, and begins, well, piddling (there's no other word for it.... he threw in an admin password and started checking completely unnecessary settings, then attempting to read the reports that their Tracking software creates, presumably to get to the root of the problem) with the machines after pretending he doesn't need me to tell him what I've done so far. His expression gets more and more bored, and after about another hour and a half, he tells my boss (one of them aforementioned admin-types) that he can't find anything wrong, and she should watch 'that new guy'.
I'm pretty sure they heard my jaw hit the floor on the other side of campus. A week later I had recieved the job offer I'd been counting on from the local cable service provider; and I headed for the hills, washing my hands of the whole situation, and terribly glad the only records tying my name to the lpace were strictly paper-based.
I checked in on it with a friend of mine who's a student there. He moved here from China, and is still a little unpolished with his english, but I heard this loud and clear: "Oh my FUCKING GOD man! Half the computers on campus are FUCKED!"
I can only assume that Mr. Plumber did not get anyone to look into the virus.
I have no idea how much that mistake cost the University; but I do know that once it was cleaned out, nothing changed. They are merrily running the exact same sytems setup the exact same way; probably every one of em mapped off the mirror sitting in the IT department.
So yes, I do believe that this could have MUCH wider-effect than you believe.
" Didn't read TFA but that never stops me. I think..."
Obligatory RTFA.
Read the article, don't jump on here calling other people's quite valid interpretations down because "you think" you know better 'just because.'
Here, you ass-hats get away with it, cuz slashdot is all about anyone's opinion; but even then, I always try to mod people like you down.
Pull yer head out yer ass, get some facts, then make a contribution that's actually worthwhile to read--just like this new system on the Wikipedia is Hoping to encourage.
This sort of "equation" has it's basis in Quackery, and has been around for years; if I cared enough I think IIRC, that we even had the "equation of a Sitcom" posted and discussed here earlier on.
Howzabout we actually get an article that's worth discussing? This submission is pathetic.
Go ahead mods, do yer worst. I refuse to swallow this tripe.
It's to late and I'm too lazy to look up models & linksites, but BENQ has a very sweet lil lappy keyboard.
I've been tempted several times to liberate my buddy's. And it's less than
Cheers.
And so, flamewar aside; I have to agree with your point here.
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North America is currently caught in a cycle. "You don't need to know that" and "I can't understand why people would do that" are two common themes I hear in many day-to-day social conversations.... our kids don't take advantage of the learning resources they have because they are constantly taught that 'in the real world, you are rewarded not for what you do, but how good you look doing it.'
Which all also ties into the article we had last week,
http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/11/
I find that everyone my wife and I have met from abroad and when abroad--Europe, Asia, Africa, even Australia in a different way--they seem to see the value in getting an appropriate education; understand the (introvert/thinking man)'s joy in activities like improving efficiency, building something for the sole purpose of destroying it; playing video games, actually hunting or harvesting the food you plan to eat, using UBUNTU Not just because you refuse to get BSOD'd again, but because you Like being able to actually improve the software you use.
I also see them rewarding intelligence and capability far more often than having a particular character.
All of these are also qualities I see in those who have been through times when they've really had to fight to survive, and those who have reached a certain level of success.... (which is relative to each of those I have had the pleasure of interacting with.)
This s something I strongly believe we will have to rectify; I believe I see the beginnings of change in a renewed work ethic in people among my age group, say 5 years back to 10 years ahead of me (19-34) which I can only hope bodes well for the turns society is going to take in the next 20 years.
I can only hope it means we won't be too technologically behind by tthe time I have school-aged children.
I've yet to understand the supposed principle that the Powers That Be or the Media could possibly figure out any kind of accurate figures on illegal activites.
:p)
/end rant :p
Dunno 'bout the rest of you guys here, but I never told the police or the press how much profit I made back when I was a small time dealer (can't touch me, young offenders act!
If I didn't, you can be damn sure that big-time or organized criminals do not share these figures either.
Neither do the users. (How many crack-heads report the amount they spend on their habit?)
So what the hell is the premise on which these "statistics" have ever been based on?
I can think of a few ways to fudge up some statistics about people screwed outta their money on the net, but I can't see a way to truly gauge that either. Again, if I fell for the "send me a grand and I'll send you a million" I sure as hell wouldn't tell anyone I was that stupid.
Hence, I dub the entire original article as BS, just like the 'War on Drugs' and even the 'War on Spam'
So, while this stuff is very kewl, and in particular I've been following development on artificial hands (as far as I know, only the face is more complex), it raises in me the question of what it will bring with it in the near future....
Cybernetic implants are under development as well, including the borg-like communications chip that most of us would have seen on 'How William Shatner changed the Universe'
So on top of all the typical moral concerns this subject raises, in the days when we're as much technology as human being, what will be the complications when our complex implants' OS gives us the equivalent of the BSOD?
tell our new cell-phone-music-pandering overlords to kiss my royal @$$
Who's with me?
This kind of a guide is extra sweet for folks like me, who Aren't hardcore Linux users/coders. (To Many 'advanced users' the occasional function string or what-have-you is expected, but having to open up your source code every time you make a change--e.g.: replacing your $10 keyboard with a new, slightly different $10 keyboard--is too much of a bloody hassle)
Makes it a touch easier to gauge whether it's Worth said bloody hassle for a particular desired result--setting up my spiffy home theatre thru Linux, or (no flame-age plz, I know the sacriledge I speak here) Winblows Media Edition.
This sort of guide, made readily available, can only assist linux penetration.
Oh, and the first two posts are exactly the sort of reason I can't stand slashdot more than occasionally anymore. Chock-Full-o-Trolls I'm thinking we all could use some sort of alternate forum...
Microsoft swears by it's "independent" studies that windows is better, faster, cheaper!
And besides, what about licencing? You absolutely have to have that!
OMFG! And I almost forgot, you actually OWN your installed copy of linux, as opposed to MSWXP! Why, why would you actually want to OWN the software you pay money for? Are you crazy?
Up is down! Down is up! The world doesn't make any sense anymore!
Yeah. Love that image, dude.
PS: For any of us not up to snuff on employment lingo, pogey is employment insurance, unemployment insurance, or whatever name for a social assistance program your respective government cooked up.
Am I correct in believing we will soon have an even greater wealth of torrents readily available to the users of the World?
If so, three words for the *AA's: Yer Fucked. Cope.
Now, firstly, yay! I've loved the idea of RAID arrayed drives since I first heard of it about 2 years ago when my friend was writing linux drivers for a company's (obligatorily namelessness) RAID Card. The technology has some very high potential, but it has very much sat by the wayside. Seeing a major hardware manufacturer target a product to the RAID crowd means it's starting to get some industry clout, which I for one think is mucho overdue.
Secondly; however, the article seems very short on technical specs:
"In works better in RAID" according to.....?
Should I start hoarding supplies for the next crash?
Hmmm... welcome to Slashzonk; all Zonk all the time. (What, 13 articles in a row? and no screwups? they musta upped his caffeine dosage) 8^p
I may just be the only one, but must ask, what telemarketers?
I get calls every week from my creditors, but they're my own damn fault. I only recieved one unsolicited call last year, and I took pity on the poor schmuck and did his 40 minute survey so he wouldn't have to worry about feeding his kids (read: drug habit) that night.
So, yeah, they can resist making a dnc list all they like, so far as I'm concerned, cuz I'm not harassed anywhere near as much as those poor folks I used to call almost 10 years ago, when I was a call-bot.
We've been working on the Katrina missing persons wiki, PeopleFinder and this has allowed us to see some emails from people right in the red zone. There are some people from religious organizations looking to help those kept in the donated church cabin complexes, and seeing that its a goddamn FEMA detainee camp. These people are going to be treated like cattle, like people were in WW2, in Korea, in Vietnam.... My guess is we will not see many of them ever again, if any. For one person's experience, you can go here:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/fema.html
Coral Cache: http://www.abovetopsecret.com.nyud.net:8090/forum/ fema.html
So, it comes as no surprise to me whatsoever that they are trying to keep all communications locked down. Nevermind the fack that FEMA=[pig-fucker]Cheney.
If you'd actually been paying attention you'd have noticed that the "Shadow Hand" is a prototype for industrial applications and such. Not medicine.
While their products is also sweet, it is NOT something to compare to prosthetics. That puppy comes with a large pneumatic cylinder attached... might make it a *tad* conspicuous out and about.
Nice try tho. :^)
Yeah... I've been meaning to do this for awhile. 2 rants about him is enough for me. Zonk, your continued refusal to actually give a shit about your contributions to slashdot have finally pushed people too far.
In lieu of being able to fire you or publicly mutilate your carcass in front of the hordes of slashdotters you've pissed off slathering for your blood, you are hereby Exiled from ever being viewed by my eyes again.
May dogs have intercourse with your soul :^)
Ye boys are missing the point on that one; you can't pirate WoW (tho thats disputible), but, keeping prices low allows it to compete in a market where games are normally close to free, which *are* pirated.
Now you kiddies run along & play :D
Up is down, down is up! The world doesn't make any sense anymore!
Oh, wait, a business organization more interested in making money than in the 'values' it touts.... who'da thunk?
I don't know about you; but I for one didn't find this funny at all.
Aside from this supposedly being a forum for discussion of ACTUAL FUCKING NEWS, YOU STUPID ASSHOLE ZONK (subtlety not being my forte after 16 hr work days for 14 days running) I find this article itself in ridiculously poor taste.
United States corporations, media, and politicians control the flow of information to you gibbering primates on a daily basis, and Will go this far if you allow them to. Perhaps not "The Almighty" Google... but then again, 'they' (the aforementioned) already control every other place you get information, so if 'they' want to control the one place people speak their minds, who do you think they'll approach first?
Keep laughing. See how funny it is when you get dubbed an 'enemy of the state' because of your now-typical daily online activities.
And just in case by some wild freak of /., I'm not already flamebait, wake up you ignorant American bastards.
Mods be damned, Scuttlemonkey's submissions are getting more and more similar to mass-media headlines. This title has the express purpose of starting a flamewar on the world's most popular anti-ms site.
It makes IE look somewhat like firefox, and adds some lacking functionality that makes it work somewhat like firefox. The two are neither identical nor interchangable.
Frankly, I'd like to see an unbroken; non-system-lagging ATI driver at all, whatever the platform... but maybe thats just me.
Interesting Read, if you're fond of raving. Like much of the "stories" and "articles" that abound on the 'net, radio, and TV; this is one person's completely misleading opinion backed by the sketchiest of facts.
Google is just getting warmed up. They did not create 'a brain drain in the industry' (too tired to link to more slashdot, go look), snatching up the most talented people with good wages, just to peak at this stage.
As any geek who's been watching and analyzing google for awhile (I'm sure there are plenty of us here!) knows intrisically, Google is just warming up.
Maybe we don't 'know' what they plan to do. However, if they keep developing these highly effective solutions, and tie them together, the masses will soon have a completely different view on what the computer can be used for.
They're already touted by a large % of geeks (read: tech-savvy-users). As all their 'developing projects' evolve, we will see some decisive corporate actions. As for the 'black box' ... well, If I planned to knock microsuck from their throne of power, I wouldn't let the cat out of the bag, either.
I mean, shit, to many of us slashdotters, 'microsoft' and 'evil' are interchangable words.... so it certainly fits in with "do no evil" :^p
I don't care. I refuse to support Intel or Microsoft. Neither offers me any of the 'features' I want, but they want me to pay them so they can own my data.
Hence your advertisements mean nothing to me.
Now if only I could mod this article as flamebait.