...For example, fanfic where Spock beams himself to Middle Earth, and has a meaningful discussion with Aragorn, before shooting his ray gun at Magneto, is not "Realistic."
What, exactly, do you want censored? What is it that you don't want to see? I'm genuinely puzzled. If your support of "some degree" of censorship is based on things you find personally objectionable, then the answer I have is simple - don't look at them. Don't go looking/for/ them. What you don't see, you won't be bothered with. This only applies, of course, if you're seeking to stop yourself from seeing something you don't want to see - if you're seeking to stop *me* from seeing something *you* don't want me to see, then we have a problem. Why do you care what I look at?
Please, for the love of god people, don't draw the line at Krispy Kreme!!! We only just got them in Brisbane......Addicted? me? Nnnnooo....I can quit Krispy Kreme any time I like...
Actually, the guy I know is way more interesting than ol' Donald. He's into homebrew, distilling, winemaking, beekeping, linux, and hydroponics. (so far, at least.)
Every so often he'll combine two or three, and make beer with honey as the sugar source, or a computer-controlled flame for his still. All I can say is, his wife is a/very/ tolerant lady.
Oh yes, I realise the attitude exists outside of computers. I'm a bit of a shadetree mechanic, and after giving a friend's car a (much needed) service, I told her to keep a eye on it as, well, its got 200,000 kays on it, and it doesn't look like anybody has serviced it in a while, so hey, oil and water will probably need to be checked on.
I asked her the other day if she checked the oil. The answer I got? "well, the little oil-can light hasn't come on like it did before, so yeah, I've checked the oil!"
Well, obviously, i'd like to think i'm patient, and a good teacher. Like most people think they're good drivers. (yay, a car analogy!)
I have to say, though, that I believe your attitude is quite rare - most people take pride in their lack of knowledge, and won't ask for more info. They shelter their ignorance, and act as if the world will stop changing if they just cover their eyes and wish it away. I was talking to my sisters boyfriend the other day - now this is someone who strikes me as pretty bright about most things, and pretty curious about the unknown - but when it came to computers? Not a clue. No interest. The distinct impression I got was that somehow, he was just that little bit better than the rest of us for being ignorant about the whole thing. Never mind that this meant the people around him had a much higher workload, to do the data entry/timekeeping/bookkeeping stuff that he should have been doing himself. I just don't get it. *shrug*
I'm fine with folks not knowing about computers. That's cool. The thing that annoys me, though, is that they're/proud/ of it. Its like its a badge of honor! Any sort of discussion about computer issues will always bring up some yahoo who says "Oh, I don't know a/thing/ about that! hur hur, in my day, all we had was pen and paper..." etc etc etc. The fact is, knowledge - basic knowledge - of computers is only going to get more important. Hiding your head under a rock isn't going to magically make it go away.
And its not the age thing, either - I've got a friend who is in his 70's, and his knowledge of technical things is way up there - he's a pure linux guy, uses myth to serve TV content all around the house, and is a very active member in the local unix club. Some people just don't seem to want to learn the basics.
The burning books idea, to my mind, felt more as though people were being told history shouldn't be remembered. Books were a permanent record of what happened before now - which may contain either a) entertainment that couldn't be monetised or b) certain facts that the current power-brokers may not wish to come to light. My personal feeling is, if 451 was written today it would be deleting data, rather than burning books. The rest of the book (families not interacting with each other, the lack of respect for strangers and their property, finding entertainment in someone else's troubles) is, sadly, what life is becoming.
I beg to differ. I went from a 21" Trinitron (Sony GDM-520FD) connected via BNC to a Dell 24" LCD (2407-WFP) and the difference is like night and day. The CRT was the best of the best back in the day, but in terms of clarity, sharpness, and colour reproduction, the LCD gets my vote. Not having to calibrate the screen to different resolutions, no interference from my Logitech G25 (why, yes, I *do* have a lot of toys) and the massive difference in desk space (the Sony was 50cm from glass to plugs, and weighed about 30kg) are other plusses.
If only Jar-Jar was turned into plasma...right in front of us.
Slowly.
Ah, so what you're saying is, we should introduce a species that eats something that we don't want?
Come to Queensland sometime during the summer, i'll introduce you to the cane toad...
You know...putting a Iron Maiden in your car /might/ make it a little less crash-worthy. Plus, your passengers wouldn't be able to hear the stereo...
In my day, we risked seeing a man with his anus stretched to almost athletic proportions or something even worse.
...yeah, i'm pretty sure most athletes can't stretch their anuses quite that much...
But it explains EVERYTHING!
...For example, fanfic where Spock beams himself to Middle Earth, and has a meaningful discussion with Aragorn, before shooting his ray gun at Magneto, is not "Realistic."
Nooooo....but it'd be AWESOME!!!!!!
Flying Toasters?
THATS BRILLIANT!
Maybe we could make a program that only runs after the screen has gone black...we could call it...After...Black. Or something.
What, exactly, do you want censored? What is it that you don't want to see? I'm genuinely puzzled. If your support of "some degree" of censorship is based on things you find personally objectionable, then the answer I have is simple - don't look at them. Don't go looking /for/ them. What you don't see, you won't be bothered with. This only applies, of course, if you're seeking to stop yourself from seeing something you don't want to see - if you're seeking to stop *me* from seeing something *you* don't want me to see, then we have a problem. Why do you care what I look at?
Please, for the love of god people, don't draw the line at Krispy Kreme!!! We only just got them in Brisbane... ...Addicted? me? Nnnnooo....I can quit Krispy Kreme any time I like...
See, I read that as "beat you off with a golf club"...certainly a "wait, what?" moment...
He's doing great!
Actually, the guy I know is way more interesting than ol' Donald. He's into homebrew, distilling, winemaking, beekeping, linux, and hydroponics. (so far, at least.)
Every so often he'll combine two or three, and make beer with honey as the sugar source, or a computer-controlled flame for his still. All I can say is, his wife is a /very/ tolerant lady.
Oh yes, I realise the attitude exists outside of computers. I'm a bit of a shadetree mechanic, and after giving a friend's car a (much needed) service, I told her to keep a eye on it as, well, its got 200,000 kays on it, and it doesn't look like anybody has serviced it in a while, so hey, oil and water will probably need to be checked on.
I asked her the other day if she checked the oil. The answer I got? "well, the little oil-can light hasn't come on like it did before, so yeah, I've checked the oil!"
*facepalm*
Well, obviously, i'd like to think i'm patient, and a good teacher. Like most people think they're good drivers. (yay, a car analogy!)
I have to say, though, that I believe your attitude is quite rare - most people take pride in their lack of knowledge, and won't ask for more info. They shelter their ignorance, and act as if the world will stop changing if they just cover their eyes and wish it away. I was talking to my sisters boyfriend the other day - now this is someone who strikes me as pretty bright about most things, and pretty curious about the unknown - but when it came to computers? Not a clue. No interest. The distinct impression I got was that somehow, he was just that little bit better than the rest of us for being ignorant about the whole thing. Never mind that this meant the people around him had a much higher workload, to do the data entry/timekeeping/bookkeeping stuff that he should have been doing himself. I just don't get it. *shrug*
I'm fine with folks not knowing about computers. That's cool. The thing that annoys me, though, is that they're /proud/ of it. Its like its a badge of honor! Any sort of discussion about computer issues will always bring up some yahoo who says "Oh, I don't know a /thing/ about that! hur hur, in my day, all we had was pen and paper..." etc etc etc. The fact is, knowledge - basic knowledge - of computers is only going to get more important. Hiding your head under a rock isn't going to magically make it go away.
And its not the age thing, either - I've got a friend who is in his 70's, and his knowledge of technical things is way up there - he's a pure linux guy, uses myth to serve TV content all around the house, and is a very active member in the local unix club. Some people just don't seem to want to learn the basics.
Pepsi?
They're called "cows"...
No, i'd do that for free. It is, after all, the best in life.
You think access is bad? Have you _seen_ what some people do with excel?
Would you kindly retract that statement?
Sounds like the narration of one of those horrible 80s space pornos.
Space Pornos?
This is relevant to my interests.
Oh yeah?
well, mod ME up or i'll assassinate you in the EAR.
You heard me.
The ear.
Farenheit four five _two_ eh?
nope, haven't read it. :)
The burning books idea, to my mind, felt more as though people were being told history shouldn't be remembered. Books were a permanent record of what happened before now - which may contain either a) entertainment that couldn't be monetised or b) certain facts that the current power-brokers may not wish to come to light. My personal feeling is, if 451 was written today it would be deleting data, rather than burning books. The rest of the book (families not interacting with each other, the lack of respect for strangers and their property, finding entertainment in someone else's troubles) is, sadly, what life is becoming.
I beg to differ. I went from a 21" Trinitron (Sony GDM-520FD) connected via BNC to a Dell 24" LCD (2407-WFP) and the difference is like night and day. The CRT was the best of the best back in the day, but in terms of clarity, sharpness, and colour reproduction, the LCD gets my vote. Not having to calibrate the screen to different resolutions, no interference from my Logitech G25 (why, yes, I *do* have a lot of toys) and the massive difference in desk space (the Sony was 50cm from glass to plugs, and weighed about 30kg) are other plusses.
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.