Not sure about the States, but turning off the key in Europe and you would be worried about triggering the steering lock. Which means you can no longer turn the wheel. If it's a manual then going into neutral would be a no-brainer. In Europe we rarely use neutral in an automatic, it's either drive or park, so in panic mode I can see somebody not wanting to use a control they've never used before. Stupid? Yes. Believable? Just about.
I don't think a reseller will be allowed to buy another brand retail, put the internals into a new cover, and pass it off as their own phone. That would be inviting a law suit pretty quickly.
As you are posting as anon I cannot tell if you are a billionaire or not, but I would say for it to sell in the luxury market it will need:
1: any version of android, as long as it has a stunning wallpaper 2: a processor of some sort 3: at least enough memory to run Facebook and Youtube, possibly Angry Birds 4: no card storage 5: enough on-board to copy an iPod worth of contents 6: a colour screen 7: a stunning design case 8: ok battery life 9: a copy of something like Cerberus pre-installed 10: good enough antenna
It's all about style. Even the 1998 model Nokia 8810 fetches the price of a Nexus these days, and that has a mono screen. Think about it more like a pair of sunglasses than a car, something you put down on the table in the bar and others will judge you by it.
Assange wasn't able to put his organization over his hormones, which calls into question the appropriateness of his leadership
Yes the shocking "unmarried man has concensual sex with attractive Swedish woman" scandal. The reason he was 'leader', bit of a grandiose title for running a web site, was he built up trust for protecting his sources over a number of years. His only hicuup was allowing a traitor Daniel Domscheit-Berg to gain his trust and then destroy thousands of important documents. As the British will hand him over to the USA, via Sweden, he won't be able to do anything once executed. A new leader is needed anyway.
It's perfectly normal for an embedded system. It is not normal, or sensible, for a general-purpose computing device. It is certainly not sensible for a thing that needs to receive regular security updates to have most of the (vulnerable) code in read-only storage.
Seems sensible to me. Malware infects r/w core, phone is useless unless the user knows how to reflash the firmware. With r/o core, user does factory reset and then ota updates to apply latest patches.
There have also been plenty of normal general-purpose computing devices with the OS r/o. The Acorn Archimedes had the whole OS distributed on ROM. Even though more powerful, and hence expensive, than the Intel PCs at the time, putting the OS on ROM made it a big hit in education. Made it impossible for malware or mischief to put it into a state you couldn't recover from.
Or it could be that different users have different needs. I can't imagine ever having to run AV on a PC, yet to a stranger I would probably recommend they did. I would also not bother running it on a phone as I want the freedom but if it was for the proverbial "granny phone" then I can see why somebody would want to lock it down.
For a "logistical clusterfuck" it appears to have actually become quite popular. There are now quite a few Android phones being sold. I think the whole AV required thing is a figment of your imagination.
Why not scatter some Raspberry Pi boards, the working ones that survive the drop can then form a mesh network. No moving parts at all, and so low power that a decent solar panel can make it completely independent off-grid. Being a Pi, somebody will probably hack one onto a Roomba to clear minefields.
I switched off from Symform the moment it started talking about its "patented architecture" for encryption and dispersement. Plus $1,800/year for 1TB... non-cloud storage is a fraction of the price.
In my business I live on on my phone. In Europe it's not so bad but outside the roaming charges are exorbitant. I spent $100 on one relatively short phone call when last in Ukraine. Fortunately most places have free wifi in nearly every bar and restaurant. If somebody calls just hit reject and dial them straight back for free on Viber (or whatever voip you use). If you see you have a large attachment just wait until you get until the hotel until you download it.
I should point out that Spain and Slovenia are different countries. I'm not sure why a phone bought in one should be used for free in the other?
We pay 19.99 here for unlimited calls to fixed and mobiles, fixed lines all over Europe plus USA and Canada, unlimited SMS and MMS, unlimited Internet for the first 3GB and reduced speeds after. As my smartphone has wifi, I can watch video all day long at home and work and not even touch my uncapped data.
I have a Nokia E71 as backup. To be honest it's much better than all the android smart phones out there for productivity. It would probably be smarter of me to get a cheap tablet for playing games and watching movies in bed and use a symbian phone for daily use. The two killer features of Symbian for me are (a) battery life which can be nearly a week and (b) voicemail app that records directly to the handset which means I can just listen to my latest message without going through the previous 20 to get to it. The fact there is no Android app that does (b) simply boggles my mind.
However I do like my Note 2 just for the cool factor.
That's not true. Having looked at Eve previously I have no desire to play it. I'm very keen to play Elite though. They are not the same audience.
I briefly tried Eve but also found it uninteresting. However Vendetta Online looks fantastic. If I actually had time to play games, this is the one I would be sinking hours into. It looks remarkably similar to the proposed Elite. I cannot understand why no comparisons to Vendetta are being made?
Going to tizen.org web site, they seem pretty determined to hide information from potential developers. It's not until you get down to the tutorials that they admit supposed "apps" are just html and javascript pages. I can't see a future for a platform with no apps apart from toy ones. I guess it's aimed at dumb-phones given away free by the carriers, but a phone with no apps is going to be a hard sell.
That's some revisionist history there. Ubuntu are so doomed that Valve have picked it for their primary distro for Steam. It's such a drek on the desktop that desktop users are flocking to it (albeit largely due to the momentum Ubuntu has managed to gather). The Amazon thing is a massive mistake, I'm surprised that haven't back-pedalled yet as nobody is going to upgrade until its gone.
KDE hardly waltzed in and effortlessly created Plasma. You obviously weren't an early 4.0 adopter like I was. It was a complete buggy mess when it came out around 4 years ago. Unity has been around half that time. KDE is now slick and polished, and Unity is rapidly approaching that too.
I think both Unity and KDE are great on the desktop, with personal preference being the decider rather than anything technical (Amazon spy-ware aside). On the tablet, it's open season. I look forward to seeing who gets the best distro on there first!
Many people dumped it but many others took it up. I thought I would just give it a go for giggles, being a KDE user, but now like it so much it's my full time desktop OS. I always hated those stupid tree menus, and the Dash is exactly what I've been looking for without actually knowing it at the time. Now Unity is more polished I think a lot of people that hesistated to make the jump and used MATE during the interim will think about switching as soon as Canonical remove the Amazon spam by default in your search results (whilst spying on all your activity).
KDE is a good bridge for Windows refugees, Unity good for those escaping the abuse of Apple, xfce and ldxe great for netbooks, and us normal users will not get over-dramatic over the DE when the actual software you use from day to day is more important.
Came to exactly the same conclusion. There was no refutation of the actual claims, only attacking Mr. Stallman and his article. His PR puff piece only convinces me RMS is right. The "we want to be like Apple" is not a good argument as most Ubuntu users are users because they prefer it in its current form to Apple and Microsoft. And the "well Facebook is able to get away with privacy violations" is not exactly inspiring either. With rot like this in the core of the organisation it's a bit worrying for the future of Ubuntu.
Canonical should just create an Amazon "app" in their software store, that makes it easier to search than just going to amazon.com. Give some extra value and earn their affiliate fee. Not easy as Amazon is already pretty slick to use. Perhaps also integrate results from other book sellers?
The suggested apps from the software store was the most annoying thing about 11.04 (along with the panel auto-hiding), and fortunately they removed it before I was forced to change distro . This Amazon thing is the only thing stopping me from upgrading 11.10 to 12.04. It's so annoying that I put up with the teething problems of Unity until it's now finally something nice to use, and then they pull this stunt. I really regret getting to like Unity. Almost as bad as when I used to recommend OS X and then Apple started all those lawsuits, leaving me to regret all those sales I made for them.
I guess after 11.10 I will switch back to KDE, which is also nice but I'll miss the Dash and the indicator applets.
And don't forget the web sites that just suck on a mobile device. Like when you have to scroll and scroll and scroll left to read something.
We had the same with normal web sites on the desktop for a while, where they were designed fixed for 800x600 and IE only. Looked awful 1600x1200 on Firefox. With the current move to rewriting all the sites as 'responsive' the web will clean itself up for mobile.
They are designed for consumption of media. Not for production of anything.
Not true for real estate any more. I know agents now that walk around with a pad, use it to take photos, draw a floor plan, and enter the description. They can then put it instantly online. Still a tiny minority but I can see that growing.
I know there will be people who claim that they use their mobile device for writing thousands of lines of code and composing spreadsheets and documents but even if they are real they are the minority.
Ah I can see your bias as a coder of some sort. The fact is these kinds of people are the minority, most people don't spend their day writing thousands of lines of code.
I think that most people will love their mobile devices for media consumption and many people will like the same interface for their desktop/laptop because that is the way they work (full-screen apps possibly layered over each other but only one being interacted with at any time).
The Samsung Galaxy Note 2 can have multiple apps running side by side, but I don't think many people use it.
But for me, I want my stupid "Start" button or equivalent. I don't want to have to remember the name of an app to launch it. I want to build the menu tree the way I want to use it.
I always hated the stupid "Start" button. That menu always seemed very inefficient to me. It's the one thing I REALLY do not miss. This is one area where Unity really has it right. There are occasional hiccups. I installed "Sweet Home 3D" to do floor plans, but typing "plan" didn't bring up my app. I need some way to add keywords to an app to help me find it. What would be ideal is right-clicking, instead of launching, brings up a context menu which includes "Add keywords".
Didn't have a clue? Was it that the menu bar was vertical instead of horizontal that threw you? Other than that, everything else is nearly the same. The software is identical as the OS doesn't change that. The only other thing is the Dash instead of the Start button, but after 10 seconds you figure that out then will not enjoy going back to the old way of doing things.
ETSI have done a fine job until now. The IETF have done a fine job until now. When was the last time ITU did anything good? Apart from being a mouthpiece for Microsoft or trying to do a power-grab over the Internet?
That's strange. In the UK we have case records going back as far as the 1990s! Though like this case, anything that happened before has no bearing on our legal system. Somebody once tried citing something in a high profile legal case that happend in 1983, probably something like a duel or stealing a penny farthing, but the judge quite rightly gave the lawyer what for.
Er no. The whole definition of profitable is not losing money. If everybody is losing money then nobody is profitable.
As for the "analyst conjecture" that record sales in their record selling phone leading to record profits may have something to do with their record selling phone... how much are these analysts paid? But yes, I am sure you know better and that their record profits have nothing to do with their best selling phone.
I like the idea that Mint includes a lot of stuff out of the box (mp3 etc). However most people now have moved onto the Unity interface. I don't see that as an option, which makes it seem a bit ancient.
Not only does it not appear on a full-size 1920x1080 monitor, it's carefully designed with equal white-space between the titlebar and the top of the screen and the footer and the bottom of the screen to appear there is absolutely nothing beneath. There is no way I would have seen that notice if I hadn't known to look for the browser bar and to try and scroll down and find it.
Ignoring the hypocracy of a company that was suing for subtle differences and then is trying subtle subfertuge, it STILL DOES NOT COMPLY. They are not printing the text of the original judgement, even hidden from view.
At the bottom of the web site at the moment: "On 25 October 2012, Apple Inc. published a statement on its UK website in relation to Samsung's Galaxy tablet computers. That statement was inaccurate and did not comply with the order of the Court of Appeal of England and Wales. The correct statement is at Samsung/Apple UK judgement."
This is NOT WHAT THE COURT ORDERED. They really are taking the piss out of the judge.
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Not sure about the States, but turning off the key in Europe and you would be worried about triggering the steering lock. Which means you can no longer turn the wheel. If it's a manual then going into neutral would be a no-brainer. In Europe we rarely use neutral in an automatic, it's either drive or park, so in panic mode I can see somebody not wanting to use a control they've never used before. Stupid? Yes. Believable? Just about.
Phillip.
I don't think a reseller will be allowed to buy another brand retail, put the internals into a new cover, and pass it off as their own phone. That would be inviting a law suit pretty quickly.
Phillip.
As you are posting as anon I cannot tell if you are a billionaire or not, but I would say for it to sell in the luxury market it will need:
1: any version of android, as long as it has a stunning wallpaper
2: a processor of some sort
3: at least enough memory to run Facebook and Youtube, possibly Angry Birds
4: no card storage
5: enough on-board to copy an iPod worth of contents
6: a colour screen
7: a stunning design case
8: ok battery life
9: a copy of something like Cerberus pre-installed
10: good enough antenna
It's all about style. Even the 1998 model Nokia 8810 fetches the price of a Nexus these days, and that has a mono screen. Think about it more like a pair of sunglasses than a car, something you put down on the table in the bar and others will judge you by it.
Phillip.
Assange wasn't able to put his organization over his hormones, which calls into question the appropriateness of his leadership
Yes the shocking "unmarried man has concensual sex with attractive Swedish woman" scandal. The reason he was 'leader', bit of a grandiose title for running a web site, was he built up trust for protecting his sources over a number of years. His only hicuup was allowing a traitor Daniel Domscheit-Berg to gain his trust and then destroy thousands of important documents. As the British will hand him over to the USA, via Sweden, he won't be able to do anything once executed. A new leader is needed anyway.
Phillip.
It's perfectly normal for an embedded system. It is not normal, or sensible, for a general-purpose computing device. It is certainly not sensible for a thing that needs to receive regular security updates to have most of the (vulnerable) code in read-only storage.
Seems sensible to me. Malware infects r/w core, phone is useless unless the user knows how to reflash the firmware. With r/o core, user does factory reset and then ota updates to apply latest patches.
There have also been plenty of normal general-purpose computing devices with the OS r/o. The Acorn Archimedes had the whole OS distributed on ROM. Even though more powerful, and hence expensive, than the Intel PCs at the time, putting the OS on ROM made it a big hit in education. Made it impossible for malware or mischief to put it into a state you couldn't recover from.
Phillip.
Or it could be that different users have different needs. I can't imagine ever having to run AV on a PC, yet to a stranger I would probably recommend they did. I would also not bother running it on a phone as I want the freedom but if it was for the proverbial "granny phone" then I can see why somebody would want to lock it down.
For a "logistical clusterfuck" it appears to have actually become quite popular. There are now quite a few Android phones being sold. I think the whole AV required thing is a figment of your imagination.
Phillip.
Why not scatter some Raspberry Pi boards, the working ones that survive the drop can then form a mesh network. No moving parts at all, and so low power that a decent solar panel can make it completely independent off-grid. Being a Pi, somebody will probably hack one onto a Roomba to clear minefields.
Phillip.
I switched off from Symform the moment it started talking about its "patented architecture" for encryption and dispersement. Plus $1,800/year for 1TB... non-cloud storage is a fraction of the price.
Phillip.
In France also. To unlock my phone I just went to a web site and entered my details. Ping, unlocked instantly. Those crazy Americans.
Phillip.
In my business I live on on my phone. In Europe it's not so bad but outside the roaming charges are exorbitant. I spent $100 on one relatively short phone call when last in Ukraine. Fortunately most places have free wifi in nearly every bar and restaurant. If somebody calls just hit reject and dial them straight back for free on Viber (or whatever voip you use). If you see you have a large attachment just wait until you get until the hotel until you download it.
I should point out that Spain and Slovenia are different countries. I'm not sure why a phone bought in one should be used for free in the other?
Phillip.
We pay 19.99 here for unlimited calls to fixed and mobiles, fixed lines all over Europe plus USA and Canada, unlimited SMS and MMS, unlimited Internet for the first 3GB and reduced speeds after. As my smartphone has wifi, I can watch video all day long at home and work and not even touch my uncapped data.
Phillip.
I have a Nokia E71 as backup. To be honest it's much better than all the android smart phones out there for productivity. It would probably be smarter of me to get a cheap tablet for playing games and watching movies in bed and use a symbian phone for daily use. The two killer features of Symbian for me are (a) battery life which can be nearly a week and (b) voicemail app that records directly to the handset which means I can just listen to my latest message without going through the previous 20 to get to it. The fact there is no Android app that does (b) simply boggles my mind.
However I do like my Note 2 just for the cool factor.
Phillip.
That's not true. Having looked at Eve previously I have no desire to play it. I'm very keen to play Elite though. They are not the same audience.
I briefly tried Eve but also found it uninteresting. However Vendetta Online looks fantastic. If I actually had time to play games, this is the one I would be sinking hours into. It looks remarkably similar to the proposed Elite. I cannot understand why no comparisons to Vendetta are being made?
Phillip.
Going to tizen.org web site, they seem pretty determined to hide information from potential developers. It's not until you get down to the tutorials that they admit supposed "apps" are just html and javascript pages. I can't see a future for a platform with no apps apart from toy ones. I guess it's aimed at dumb-phones given away free by the carriers, but a phone with no apps is going to be a hard sell.
Phillip.
That's some revisionist history there. Ubuntu are so doomed that Valve have picked it for their primary distro for Steam. It's such a drek on the desktop that desktop users are flocking to it (albeit largely due to the momentum Ubuntu has managed to gather). The Amazon thing is a massive mistake, I'm surprised that haven't back-pedalled yet as nobody is going to upgrade until its gone.
KDE hardly waltzed in and effortlessly created Plasma. You obviously weren't an early 4.0 adopter like I was. It was a complete buggy mess when it came out around 4 years ago. Unity has been around half that time. KDE is now slick and polished, and Unity is rapidly approaching that too.
I think both Unity and KDE are great on the desktop, with personal preference being the decider rather than anything technical (Amazon spy-ware aside). On the tablet, it's open season. I look forward to seeing who gets the best distro on there first!
Phillip.
Many people dumped it but many others took it up. I thought I would just give it a go for giggles, being a KDE user, but now like it so much it's my full time desktop OS. I always hated those stupid tree menus, and the Dash is exactly what I've been looking for without actually knowing it at the time. Now Unity is more polished I think a lot of people that hesistated to make the jump and used MATE during the interim will think about switching as soon as Canonical remove the Amazon spam by default in your search results (whilst spying on all your activity).
KDE is a good bridge for Windows refugees, Unity good for those escaping the abuse of Apple, xfce and ldxe great for netbooks, and us normal users will not get over-dramatic over the DE when the actual software you use from day to day is more important.
Phillip.
Came to exactly the same conclusion. There was no refutation of the actual claims, only attacking Mr. Stallman and his article. His PR puff piece only convinces me RMS is right. The "we want to be like Apple" is not a good argument as most Ubuntu users are users because they prefer it in its current form to Apple and Microsoft. And the "well Facebook is able to get away with privacy violations" is not exactly inspiring either. With rot like this in the core of the organisation it's a bit worrying for the future of Ubuntu.
Canonical should just create an Amazon "app" in their software store, that makes it easier to search than just going to amazon.com. Give some extra value and earn their affiliate fee. Not easy as Amazon is already pretty slick to use. Perhaps also integrate results from other book sellers?
Phillip.
The suggested apps from the software store was the most annoying thing about 11.04 (along with the panel auto-hiding), and fortunately they removed it before I was forced to change distro . This Amazon thing is the only thing stopping me from upgrading 11.10 to 12.04. It's so annoying that I put up with the teething problems of Unity until it's now finally something nice to use, and then they pull this stunt. I really regret getting to like Unity. Almost as bad as when I used to recommend OS X and then Apple started all those lawsuits, leaving me to regret all those sales I made for them.
I guess after 11.10 I will switch back to KDE, which is also nice but I'll miss the Dash and the indicator applets.
RMS is 100% right.
Phillip.
And don't forget the web sites that just suck on a mobile device. Like when you have to scroll and scroll and scroll left to read something.
We had the same with normal web sites on the desktop for a while, where they were designed fixed for 800x600 and IE only. Looked awful 1600x1200 on Firefox. With the current move to rewriting all the sites as 'responsive' the web will clean itself up for mobile.
They are designed for consumption of media. Not for production of anything.
Not true for real estate any more. I know agents now that walk around with a pad, use it to take photos, draw a floor plan, and enter the description. They can then put it instantly online. Still a tiny minority but I can see that growing.
I know there will be people who claim that they use their mobile device for writing thousands of lines of code and composing spreadsheets and documents but even if they are real they are the minority.
Ah I can see your bias as a coder of some sort. The fact is these kinds of people are the minority, most people don't spend their day writing thousands of lines of code.
I think that most people will love their mobile devices for media consumption and many people will like the same interface for their desktop/laptop because that is the way they work (full-screen apps possibly layered over each other but only one being interacted with at any time).
The Samsung Galaxy Note 2 can have multiple apps running side by side, but I don't think many people use it.
But for me, I want my stupid "Start" button or equivalent. I don't want to have to remember the name of an app to launch it. I want to build the menu tree the way I want to use it.
I always hated the stupid "Start" button. That menu always seemed very inefficient to me. It's the one thing I REALLY do not miss. This is one area where Unity really has it right. There are occasional hiccups. I installed "Sweet Home 3D" to do floor plans, but typing "plan" didn't bring up my app. I need some way to add keywords to an app to help me find it. What would be ideal is right-clicking, instead of launching, brings up a context menu which includes "Add keywords".
Phillip.
Didn't have a clue? Was it that the menu bar was vertical instead of horizontal that threw you? Other than that, everything else is nearly the same. The software is identical as the OS doesn't change that. The only other thing is the Dash instead of the Start button, but after 10 seconds you figure that out then will not enjoy going back to the old way of doing things.
Phillip.
ETSI have done a fine job until now. The IETF have done a fine job until now. When was the last time ITU did anything good? Apart from being a mouthpiece for Microsoft or trying to do a power-grab over the Internet?
Phillip.
That's strange. In the UK we have case records going back as far as the 1990s! Though like this case, anything that happened before has no bearing on our legal system. Somebody once tried citing something in a high profile legal case that happend in 1983, probably something like a duel or stealing a penny farthing, but the judge quite rightly gave the lawyer what for.
Phillip.
Er no. The whole definition of profitable is not losing money. If everybody is losing money then nobody is profitable.
As for the "analyst conjecture" that record sales in their record selling phone leading to record profits may have something to do with their record selling phone... how much are these analysts paid? But yes, I am sure you know better and that their record profits have nothing to do with their best selling phone.
Phillip.
I like the idea that Mint includes a lot of stuff out of the box (mp3 etc). However most people now have moved onto the Unity interface. I don't see that as an option, which makes it seem a bit ancient.
Phillip.
Not only does it not appear on a full-size 1920x1080 monitor, it's carefully designed with equal white-space between the titlebar and the top of the screen and the footer and the bottom of the screen to appear there is absolutely nothing beneath. There is no way I would have seen that notice if I hadn't known to look for the browser bar and to try and scroll down and find it.
Ignoring the hypocracy of a company that was suing for subtle differences and then is trying subtle subfertuge, it STILL DOES NOT COMPLY. They are not printing the text of the original judgement, even hidden from view.
At the bottom of the web site at the moment: "On 25 October 2012, Apple Inc. published a statement on its UK website in relation to Samsung's Galaxy tablet computers. That statement was inaccurate and did not comply with the order of the Court of Appeal of England and Wales. The correct statement is at Samsung/Apple UK judgement."
This is NOT WHAT THE COURT ORDERED. They really are taking the piss out of the judge.
Phillip.