Surprising how many stupid people present @/. this morning. Seeing all the conspiracy theory posts all being modded troll. Wake up dumbasses, you have all been lied to.
For the record, my day job is a heating technician specialist. I have been working with all heating fuels for 30 years. I know exactly what can and cannot be done with kerosene, or in this case, jet fuel.
Here are the facts. Jet fuel is the same thing as kerosene, or fuel oil #1, with some additives for jet turbine use. In the twin tower experiment it would be the hottest burning combustible fuel available along with paper and plastics. None of these are capable of melting high strength structural steel encased inside of hardened concrete. In uncontrolled combustion kerosene doesn't burn very hot at all. Maybe 1000 degrees if you're lucky. To get maximum heat from kerosene, such as your furnace, you have to inject it through a specialized metering spray pattern device (nozzle) @ 100 - 300 psi and blast compressed air through it to achieve at best 2400 degrees. Put a chunk of rebar in front of the business end of your oil burner and all you will get is very hot steel, nothing more. To vaporize structural steel you need ~5000 degrees. This is where the termite comes in to play. The only damage the twin towers suffered from the collisions were broken glass, shattered drywall, twisted metal studs, and fire from 1000 degree burning kerosene splashed all over.
Nope, not on your best day can you bring down any modern high rise with a jet. For that you need an explosive to shatter the high strength concrete surrounding the 2" structural rebar, and then you need termite to melt the rebar. This probably explains why the pentagon didn't collapse as the 3 towers did. They couldn't get demolition materials past security. Oh, and WTC7 wasn't even hit by anything but flying debris, but it was also imploded into it's own foot print. It was probably another target in the scheme but another plane was not commandeered and the job had to be completed to cover up the future question of found planted explosives and the resulting derailment of their evil plan.
So here is the jist of it, like it or not. Those acquiring power in 2000 knew in advance the jet attack planned and they knew the day. They sent in their own demolition experts disguised as everyday contractors to wire the 3 towers for implosion ahead of time. On Sept. 11 2001 after the impacts they imploded the 3 structures and for theatrical impact they murdered ~3000 civilians. All so they could invade Afganistan to build a gas pipeline, and to invade Iraq so they could seize control of their vast oil fields and control global oil revenues.
So, how do all you voting republicans out there feel about being sodomized with $5/gal fuel prices. Of course with an election coming up they are relaxing the pricing gouge in hope of swinging the election to McSame. I imaging after the November election fuel prices will soar even higher regardless of whom gets elected.
But don't take my word for it, do everyone around you a favor and research the data for yourselves. Google "physicists engineers for truth" will make you a smarter person. Who knows you may even get laid someday.
But the solution to the CO2/Global Warming problem is not a superficial band-aid solution such as this but changing our way of thinking entirely.
We need to get off our fossil fuel energy addiction which is the cause of the problem and onto new technologies we have available to us right now. Solar, wind, hydro, wave, bio-fuels, hydrogen fuel cell and hydrogen itself.
Your reading comprehension is lacking. The whole point of my post was that global warming is REAL and is caused by human presence and the industrial revolution of the past 200 years.
Granted there have been other past ice ages and warming periods, of which causes are unknown. But today the human presence has caused this one. We are pigs. We shit in our drinking water. We dump billions of tons of CO2, among other things, into our environment every year. We have over populated the planet until it can barely sustain our numbers. Here in Alaska, glaciers are receding at an alarming rate, permafrost is melting, and the permanent polar ice pack is vanishing.
Eventually something will give. My bet is a massive human die off is in our future. Drought, famine, pestilence, plague, war, take your pick.
I just knew a thread such as this, would bring forth at least one of the many village idiots for the obligatory attempt at debunking the global warming, CO2, pollution, theories currently being tossed about.
The fact of the matter is that we really don't know why our planet is warming, but it is! Granted there are many, many variables involved in theorizing a cause for global warming. But the simplest and most obvious place to start looking are unnatural contributions into the planet's ecosystem which can alter weather patterns and affect the heating/cooling balance of the atmosphere.
Excess CO2 in the atmosphere causes warming, and particulate matter from industry filters sunlight and causes cooling. Our oceans also absorb much of what we dump into the air; at what cost? The main problem here is that very few are willing to spend time and money studying the phenomenon. Those that do and make public their findings are ridiculed and mocked by the media and industry.
Then there are the far out wackos that base their argument, just as you did above in your wikipedia reference. "70 million years ago the ocean currents flowed this-a-way and that-a-way and thats what caused the ice age." Pure speculation going on here. How the fuck does anyone know exactly what happened 70 million years ago? Was anyone there that you know? I say bullshit, I can do that too. "70 million years ago a frog crawled out of the muck, sat down on a mushroom and smoked a joint underneath an erupting volcano, meanwhile a medium sized comet landed in the middle of the Atlantic and swept Atlantis to the depths and that is what caused the ice age of 70 million years ago."
This thread here is one of those subjects that will draw fire regardless of opinion or belief.
That said, your point is completely accurate.
Right--because it's the republicans who are racist. "Since the 1960s, yes, this is true."
99.9% of individuals in the deep south are severely racist, both Dem & Rep, today as well as in the past. Even the black community has a deep hatred of whites and are racist.
But in the 60's when the Dem party was moving away from the KKK ideology, the southern Dems crossed lines to become Rep. All of these have remained the most evil and dangerous assholes on the planet.
Point & Fact: everybody feels some form of racism for some one else they don't know or understand, myself included.
But I have been trying to overcome this with looking at others (all races) from a candid perspective and have been able to see beauty in most people/races. It is there if you care to look close enough. This is the first step to recovery and becoming human once again.
This world would be a much better place if we all put out an effort to treat each other with honesty, kindness, dignity & respect.
After reading the posts previous, it looks like most individuals here don't support a facist nazi evolution to democracy in America.
GWB and the rest of the gestapo cartel will not be around much longer and all the damage these crack pots have done, can be undone.
The next election will decide this. One prospect proposes hope and change, while the other guy thinks the path we are on today is good enough and no reason to change our direction.
People just need to care enough to get out and vote this November.
I realize this is off topic, but this branch on SS ranting is all off topic.
You are right on! If I had mod points I'd mod you up.
Social Security is a good thing. I've been paying into it for 30+ years now and when I retire in 15 I'll have a pretty good monthly check in addition to what I've saved and built up by then. It's intention is to pad retirement benefits for working class citizens. Those that genuinely oppose it are born into wealthy families and are the ones that bitch the loudest as they also have to contribute to the fund as well.
The flip side of the coin here is that there are also features built into our capitalistic system that benefit the wealthy and are unfair to the working class.
Of course there are also those AC's out there that bitch about things they know nothing of and/or just like bitching for the sake of bitching. Their problem is most likely "Little dog syndrome", "Little dick syndrome" or some other similar defect.
Great post! If I had mod points I'd mod you up informative.
Stephen Colbert doesn't appeal to just young people though. All age demographics enjoy his humor. Probably the more educated a person is, the more they can recognize and appreciate the subtle dry humor he and his writers present.
I myself am 52 and don't polarize myself to any political alignment. I also don't watch any televised news with exception of what Jon & Stephen present. Both my parents watch Stephen Colbert and enjoy his political satire. This is funny as my mother is a staunch republican. (In her view, democrats can't be trusted, and republicans shit rainbows and sunshine)
The ideas behind KDE4 are great, all it needs is polish (albeit a lot of polish). This is the point: if it were a turd, no amount of polish would make it good, but KDE4 does not fall into this category. It's just a knob that needs some Brasso.
I concur. A while back when I was checking out Debian Lenny, there was an option to upgrade to KDE4. I found it quite usable with exception that not all the apps were present that are there in 3.5.x
KDE4 has great potential to be a kickass desktop, and it will get there. Everyone just needs to be patient and let the developers do their work getting the other apps ported to the new framework.
The KDE developers were very forthcoming with the community that KDE4.0 was not complete and don't expect too much from it just yet. It was released when it was so that app developers could begin porting their software to the new framework. Nothing more was promised.
I'm sure you can find some yahoo friend who can demonstrate the trick of putting a match out by dunking it in a barrel of gas.
I'm sorry my friend, but I don't know anybody stupid enough to attempt that one. If you feel this can be done safely, be my guest. Your local hospital has a triage ward for burn victims with a nice comfy bed waiting just for you. But wait, there's more, we still are accepting applications for next years Darwin awards. So hurry now, grab that can of gasoline and any book of matches and get to work.
Ok now, back to reality. Once upon a time, gasoline was considered too dangerous to be used as a fuel. Well, that problem was solved and the rest is history.
This is now the dawn of a new era. Fossil fuels will eventually run out and alternative fuels will be necessary if we wish our modern culture to continue and survive. I'm sure all these kinks will be worked out eventually and before you know it, you will be puttering around town in you new hydrogen fueled automobile. Unless of course you burn your self to a crisp playing drinking games with matches and gasoline.
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Politicians and Diapers need changed often For the same reasons
I get the same creepy feeling I get when I saw that commercial with Bill Clinton and George Bush Sr, side by side. That could just be because I was being looked at by a sleazeball and a cold-blooded killer
I know that feeling all too well. You can relive that same urge to defecate watching the new coke commercial featuring Bill Frist and James Carville cavorting around together like a couple of queers. I was forced to watch this at the stinking theater. The urge came upon me without warning, I tried to make the emergency exit but crapped my pants half way down the aisle.
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Politicians and Diapers need changed often For the same reasons
I'm sure both the hardware and software in the vending machines don't come cheap.
Amusing that the system can be fooled simply by holding a photo up to the camera.
Maybe they should just stick to the controlled substances being dispensed over the counter from say, a liquor store? Very difficult to beat the eye to eye sales method.
Well there my Canadian friend, nice post. Honestly, I've given up viewing televised news broadcasts altogether. The only news reports I can stand is the Daily Show, Colbert and tidbits I find on the internet.
I won't hold my breath waiting for network broadcasts informing the public that traces of thermite was found in the ruins of the WTC indicating a deliberate implosion of the 3 towers on 9/11. I believe it is irresponsible for any news stations to focus their attention on Britney, Paris Hilton, and Obama's lapel pin, when there are serious crimes being committed by the republican assholes in DC that are not being exposed to public view.
The right wing conservatives manipulate the public view using Fox news and their method of twisting and distorting facts, and informing the viewers with their personal 'paid for' opinions.
I have no problem with the left progressives using similar techniques of swaying public opinion, but the left are using truth, reality, and actual facts to beat the conservatives at their own game.
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Politicians and Diapers need changing often for the same reasons
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Surprising how many stupid people present @ /. this morning. Seeing all the conspiracy theory posts all being modded troll. Wake up dumbasses, you have all been lied to.
For the record, my day job is a heating technician specialist. I have been working with all heating fuels for 30 years. I know exactly what can and cannot be done with kerosene, or in this case, jet fuel.
Here are the facts. Jet fuel is the same thing as kerosene, or fuel oil #1, with some additives for jet turbine use. In the twin tower experiment it would be the hottest burning combustible fuel available along with paper and plastics. None of these are capable of melting high strength structural steel encased inside of hardened concrete.
In uncontrolled combustion kerosene doesn't burn very hot at all. Maybe 1000 degrees if you're lucky. To get maximum heat from kerosene, such as your furnace, you have to inject it through a specialized metering spray pattern device (nozzle) @ 100 - 300 psi and blast compressed air through it to achieve at best 2400 degrees. Put a chunk of rebar in front of the business end of your oil burner and all you will get is very hot steel, nothing more. To vaporize structural steel you need ~5000 degrees. This is where the termite comes in to play.
The only damage the twin towers suffered from the collisions were broken glass, shattered drywall, twisted metal studs, and fire from 1000 degree burning kerosene splashed all over.
Nope, not on your best day can you bring down any modern high rise with a jet. For that you need an explosive to shatter the high strength concrete surrounding the 2" structural rebar, and then you need termite to melt the rebar.
This probably explains why the pentagon didn't collapse as the 3 towers did. They couldn't get demolition materials past security. Oh, and WTC7 wasn't even hit by anything but flying debris, but it was also imploded into it's own foot print. It was probably another target in the scheme but another plane was not commandeered and the job had to be completed to cover up the future question of found planted explosives and the resulting derailment of their evil plan.
So here is the jist of it, like it or not. Those acquiring power in 2000 knew in advance the jet attack planned and they knew the day. They sent in their own demolition experts disguised as everyday contractors to wire the 3 towers for implosion ahead of time. On Sept. 11 2001 after the impacts they imploded the 3 structures and for theatrical impact they murdered ~3000 civilians.
All so they could invade Afganistan to build a gas pipeline, and to invade Iraq so they could seize control of their vast oil fields and control global oil revenues.
So, how do all you voting republicans out there feel about being sodomized with $5/gal fuel prices. Of course with an election coming up they are relaxing the pricing gouge in hope of swinging the election to McSame. I imaging after the November election fuel prices will soar even higher regardless of whom gets elected.
But don't take my word for it, do everyone around you a favor and research the data for yourselves. Google "physicists engineers for truth" will make you a smarter person. Who knows you may even get laid someday.
Well I have it from a very reliable source, Stephen Colbert, that the earth is only 6000 years old. So, some where, someone is wrong.
When you think of anti-competitive and monopoly, only one name comes to mind: Microsoft.
I'm sure this deal between Google and Yahoo puts M$'s hostile take over of Yahoo even further out of reach.
But the solution to the CO2/Global Warming problem is not a superficial band-aid solution such as this but changing our way of thinking entirely.
We need to get off our fossil fuel energy addiction which is the cause of the problem and onto new technologies we have available to us right now. Solar, wind, hydro, wave, bio-fuels, hydrogen fuel cell and hydrogen itself.
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RNC = Racists Nazis Criminals
OK, I'll bite
I'll wait for the video of Sarah Palin and Ann Coulter engaging in some hot G-on-G action.
Other than that, who cares. Nothing to see here, move along.
Your reading comprehension is lacking. The whole point of my post was that global warming is REAL and is caused by human presence and the industrial revolution of the past 200 years.
Granted there have been other past ice ages and warming periods, of which causes are unknown. But today the human presence has caused this one. We are pigs. We shit in our drinking water. We dump billions of tons of CO2, among other things, into our environment every year. We have over populated the planet until it can barely sustain our numbers. Here in Alaska, glaciers are receding at an alarming rate, permafrost is melting, and the permanent polar ice pack is vanishing.
Eventually something will give. My bet is a massive human die off is in our future. Drought, famine, pestilence, plague, war, take your pick.
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But on a lighter side, ain't life great
I just knew a thread such as this, would bring forth at least one of the many village idiots for the obligatory attempt at debunking the global warming, CO2, pollution, theories currently being tossed about.
The fact of the matter is that we really don't know why our planet is warming, but it is! Granted there are many, many variables involved in theorizing a cause for global warming. But the simplest and most obvious place to start looking are unnatural contributions into the planet's ecosystem which can alter weather patterns and affect the heating/cooling balance of the atmosphere.
Excess CO2 in the atmosphere causes warming, and particulate matter from industry filters sunlight and causes cooling. Our oceans also absorb much of what we dump into the air; at what cost? The main problem here is that very few are willing to spend time and money studying the phenomenon. Those that do and make public their findings are ridiculed and mocked by the media and industry.
Then there are the far out wackos that base their argument, just as you did above in your wikipedia reference. "70 million years ago the ocean currents flowed this-a-way and that-a-way and thats what caused the ice age." Pure speculation going on here. How the fuck does anyone know exactly what happened 70 million years ago? Was anyone there that you know? I say bullshit, I can do that too. "70 million years ago a frog crawled out of the muck, sat down on a mushroom and smoked a joint underneath an erupting volcano, meanwhile a medium sized comet landed in the middle of the Atlantic and swept Atlantis to the depths and that is what caused the ice age of 70 million years ago."
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Friends don't let friends vote republican
That said, your point is completely accurate.
99.9% of individuals in the deep south are severely racist, both Dem & Rep, today as well as in the past. Even the black community has a deep hatred of whites and are racist.
But in the 60's when the Dem party was moving away from the KKK ideology, the southern Dems crossed lines to become Rep. All of these have remained the most evil and dangerous assholes on the planet.
Point & Fact: everybody feels some form of racism for some one else they don't know or understand, myself included.
But I have been trying to overcome this with looking at others (all races) from a candid perspective and have been able to see beauty in most people/races. It is there if you care to look close enough. This is the first step to recovery and becoming human once again.
This world would be a much better place if we all put out an effort to treat each other with honesty, kindness, dignity & respect.
but that's just me
GWB and the rest of the gestapo cartel will not be around much longer and all the damage these crack pots have done, can be undone.
The next election will decide this. One prospect proposes hope and change, while the other guy thinks the path we are on today is good enough and no reason to change our direction.
People just need to care enough to get out and vote this November.
You are right on! If I had mod points I'd mod you up.
Social Security is a good thing. I've been paying into it for 30+ years now and when I retire in 15 I'll have a pretty good monthly check in addition to what I've saved and built up by then. It's intention is to pad retirement benefits for working class citizens. Those that genuinely oppose it are born into wealthy families and are the ones that bitch the loudest as they also have to contribute to the fund as well.
The flip side of the coin here is that there are also features built into our capitalistic system that benefit the wealthy and are unfair to the working class.
Of course there are also those AC's out there that bitch about things they know nothing of and/or just like bitching for the sake of bitching. Their problem is most likely "Little dog syndrome", "Little dick syndrome" or some other similar defect.
Stephen Colbert doesn't appeal to just young people though. All age demographics enjoy his humor. Probably the more educated a person is, the more they can recognize and appreciate the subtle dry humor he and his writers present.
I myself am 52 and don't polarize myself to any political alignment. I also don't watch any televised news with exception of what Jon & Stephen present. Both my parents watch Stephen Colbert and enjoy his political satire. This is funny as my mother is a staunch republican. (In her view, democrats can't be trusted, and republicans shit rainbows and sunshine)
I concur. A while back when I was checking out Debian Lenny, there was an option to upgrade to KDE4. I found it quite usable with exception that not all the apps were present that are there in 3.5.x
KDE4 has great potential to be a kickass desktop, and it will get there. Everyone just needs to be patient and let the developers do their work getting the other apps ported to the new framework.
The KDE developers were very forthcoming with the community that KDE4.0 was not complete and don't expect too much from it just yet. It was released when it was so that app developers could begin porting their software to the new framework. Nothing more was promised.
Nothing to see here, move along
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Beer, now cheaper than gas
There, fixed that for you
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Beer, now cheaper than gas!
I use a D-Link EBR-2310. I have never had to reboot it. It just continues to work day in and day out.
I'm sorry my friend, but I don't know anybody stupid enough to attempt that one. If you feel this can be done safely, be my guest. Your local hospital has a triage ward for burn victims with a nice comfy bed waiting just for you. But wait, there's more, we still are accepting applications for next years Darwin awards. So hurry now, grab that can of gasoline and any book of matches and get to work.
Ok now, back to reality. Once upon a time, gasoline was considered too dangerous to be used as a fuel. Well, that problem was solved and the rest is history.
This is now the dawn of a new era. Fossil fuels will eventually run out and alternative fuels will be necessary if we wish our modern culture to continue and survive. I'm sure all these kinks will be worked out eventually and before you know it, you will be puttering around town in you new hydrogen fueled automobile. Unless of course you burn your self to a crisp playing drinking games with matches and gasoline.
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Politicians and Diapers need changed often
For the same reasons
I know that feeling all too well. You can relive that same urge to defecate watching the new coke commercial featuring Bill Frist and James Carville cavorting around together like a couple of queers. I was forced to watch this at the stinking theater. The urge came upon me without warning, I tried to make the emergency exit but crapped my pants half way down the aisle.
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Politicians and Diapers need changed often
For the same reasons
I guess Mickey Mouse will get my vote this November, once again.
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Politicians and Diapers need changed often
For the same reasons
to make that sport more interesting.
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Jewish Dilemma: Free Pork
Amusing that the system can be fooled simply by holding a photo up to the camera.
Maybe they should just stick to the controlled substances being dispensed over the counter from say, a liquor store?
Very difficult to beat the eye to eye sales method.
This could be made into a great cartoon, no wait ...
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The Jewish Dilemma - Free Pork
Yep, after the 99% kill off, land will become pretty cheep once the water recedes, me thinks
I know where Angelina Jolie lives. She's in France with Brad. ...
He's a lucky guy! Well done Brad
I won't hold my breath waiting for network broadcasts informing the public that traces of thermite was found in the ruins of the WTC indicating a deliberate implosion of the 3 towers on 9/11. I believe it is irresponsible for any news stations to focus their attention on Britney, Paris Hilton, and Obama's lapel pin, when there are serious crimes being committed by the republican assholes in DC that are not being exposed to public view.
Just you wait, Canada has oil, you may be next.
I have no problem with the left progressives using similar techniques of swaying public opinion, but the left are using truth, reality, and actual facts to beat the conservatives at their own game.
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Politicians and Diapers need changing often for the same reasons