...Viruses and other bits of Malware will be out in the wild ready to hit machines running Vista when corporations and other VLK owners start getting it installed and running. Microsoft claims it is their "Most Secure Operating System EVER," should be interesting to see how well they actually do maintaining that claim. I bet nothing for 2 days, but ~5 within the next week. What should be more interesting is how much press they get, and how Microsoft responds to them.
The thing with the "simplified" (I think that is a very relative term in relation to any GUI) interface is that not only are the kids going to be using it, but there are going to be teachers using it too. Teachers who have never used a computer before. And while I agree, children have no problems picking up the basics of different UI's (having the practical example of my sister, who, at six, had absolutly no problem using the standard Windows Interface, Gnome, and a hyper-minimalistic Litestep skin with a dock at the bottom of the screen) older people (in my case, parents and their friends) need what essentially amounts to a basic tutorial on what is where if the UI changes in the least. If slightly older people who encounter computers on a daily basis (or even teens who think about not the concepts of the UI, but formulaicly think "click this for this, then that, and then that happens") have issues going from one UI to another, or even using the UI they are used to, then how can you expect someone who has probably never encountered and/or used a computer before to do so? You have to make it as simple as possible. They basically just removed all the stuff that is likely to confuse someone. For the kids growing up using these, the UI looks similar enough that even if they formulaicly think "this and this for that" and don't think about the concepts, they shouldn't be lost on most typical UI's.
...Unless someone happens to not be technologically literate...(sounds funny, I know, but think of the reaction on any non-techies face even MENTIONING the idea of building a computer...)
It's less about the people in the homes. If you have read the article, you would have seen the picture of the people at the internet cafe. And guess what? They, the majority, are going to be affected by this. Since they don't have computers at home, they are less likely to really know the difference (AKA, how many people you know who don't know a computer who care about any tech issues vs. how many care about tech issues that do). They probably won't understand whats going on, they will just see that something they could do before takes more time now...
How should this shut him up? Did you even RTFM? The virus was due to the iPods being processed through a single machine running Windows...nothing about a mac being infected at all, or any flaws in mac security...
That "Incremental Update" with Apple isn't just a bunch of bug fixes though. From 10.2 to 10.3 there are a significant number of changes to the functionality of the OS, as well as the obligatory bug fixes and other patches. Whether it is worth $129, well, probably not...Then again, I don't own a Mac, so I can't quite say for sure whether it's worth it or not.
...to see both of these groups in a dispute like this. Really, I don't understand what the Debian Dev's problem was in the first place. If someone tried to call Ubuntu, Mepis, or Knoppix "Debian", they would have issues too...
WTF? Have you EVER used Ubuntu? The Ubuntu Community is possibly the most understanding community out there, with even the most noobish questions being answered nicely sans condecension. You state that updates online are a bad idea. Neither windows or OSX update any other way, normally. OSX I have no idea about (not talking about new os versions) and Microsoft will, if you send them money, send you a CD with all the updates UP TO A CERTAIN DATE. They do not make this readily apparent to any end user, so they might as well not do this at all. You state that installing any linux software requires you to compile any software you want yourself. Yet again, not true. Apt-get? Synaptic? Hello? And a myriad of other programs that come compiled when you download them. The only semi-valid point you have is the one about the drivers. I myself had to download the FGLRX drivers before I could even get X to work...
And, just so's you know, I don't believe it should be transferable, or be able to be owned by a non-individual (read: company).
Legally, a corporation (at least here in the states) is an individual person, with all the legal rights of a live, flesh-and-blood person. While I know company does not necessarily equal corporation, just figured I should point that out...
Of course, because the KKK says nothing that could be construed as "hate speech" during their rallies, marches, and other events that they decide to have in public venues...
...it is still the restriction of free speech. While truly "free" speech doesn't exist, even in the US (you can't yell "FIRE" in a crowded theater for the fun of it), governments should strive, as much as possible, to maintain the free speech in as intact a form is as reasonably possible. This strikes me as very Orwellian in nature: Not only are they restricting the speech of several people and groups (based on very vaguely defined criteria) but also essentially curtailing their right to assemble. Personally, it is sad that many other countries in the world do not have their citizens rights as plainly defined as we do here in the states. However, considering how much good that is doing us, perhaps that isn't quite enough either...
Road warrior use with what? When it came out, it was this giant "event" in the PPC world...then a bunch of people who run PPC sites got their hands on one for reviews...bottom line...it sucked.
Well, my parents got my little sister (7) a computer last christmas (socket A goodness, you can figure out the rest of the approximate specs), and while they want to make sure that nothing bad happens, they honestly know nothing about computers (to the point where before that, I had the only computer in the house, and was the only user). So, it was tasked upon me to try to bring my sis up right as far as tech is concerned. The computer is in her closet (something I most assuredly think is a bad idea, maybe older but not at 7) and she basically has carte blanc with it as far as non-net stuff is concerned (use whenever she wants, change whatever settings she wants, only doesn't get a password I don't know). As far as net stuff, while there are no filters set, if she wants to use the net she has to ask us and tell us what site she is going to. I check in on her every so often, and I do keep a firm hold on what appears in her history. Plus, she isn't allowed to have an e-mail account. She generally knows that I can keep up on anything I say I can do computer wise (with her personal proof being me using austrumi to reset her password when she changed it). Moreover, on my computer (not running Windows, but running Ubuntu) she has an account that she uses. Actually, she prefers Ubuntu to Windows, although her mother won't let me make any "changes" to her computer (whether sis wants them or not) because she wants to be able to use it. As far as hardware is concerned, I have tried to make sure that she develops a certain degree of comfort a familiarity with the innards of a computer (I have purchased several machines from garage sales for us to part out together). As far as games are concerned, I let her play anything on my computer (including HL2 when I still had Windows). Hope you can get something useful out of my post, and best of luck to you.
Personally, I recommend Ubuntu 6.06. I myself recently switched over to it, and have found it to be a very pleasant experiance. I even managed to convince a friend that he should totally switch after, within the space of about 20 minutes, everything "worked." Unlike in previous distos, he was able to get 3d acceleration working properly, dvd+MP3+Other Proprietary codecs, ut2k4, and he just loves the simplicity of apt-get and synaptic. Immediatly before running Ubuntu, he tried running openSUSE, which didn't quite work out for him (couldn't get anything to simply "work"). After 3 days, he removed openSUSE.
Truth be told, I don't think your going to be able to find a Neutral Source. Really, the closest you are going to get to a source you consider Neutral would be yourself. As for a feauter chart, however, that is a bit easier. Wikipedia has one here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Linux_d istributions
As far as the debate on the semantics of Mark's post are concerned, I think that it is laughable that the discussion is even taking place. If anyone actually read and understood it, they would see how comical it is that they are arguing over the semantics.
GS: The 360 was plagued by significant shortages at launch. What steps are you taking to make sure the PS3 doesn't meet the same fate?
KH: Well, I think that you know this is all relative, but you need to put it in context. I think that we've always talked about shipping 2 million units worldwide within the calendar year. Since we're going with three territories, we haven't really come up with an allocation just yet. But even if you do the simple math you're talking about less than 700,000 units per territory, per major territory, between launch and the end of the year. So even if there was some fluctuation--you give Japan more, you give the US more, what have you--you're going to end up with some shortages. So I think that if we've done our jobs right and if we've been able to really have the consumers become interested in this product, then, unfortunately, I think it's going to be very much of a challenge to be able to meet every single unit demand that's out there in the market. That's just a logistical impossibility. Unless we suddenly say, "Well we want to wait until June of next year to launch because we want to stockpile product," I don't think that's the approach we want to take.
Great thing they are concerned about the consumer. Really, are they nuts? Charging hundreds more than their competitors (one of which has a released product and one of which has a product which will be released near it that also has better press) for the console, and running a freaking shortage? They do realize that they aren't the only major player here, that they have next to no good press, and that doing this is likely to send people running to their competitors? They really don't seem to realize that they can't just jerk around with consumers like this without being jerked back at in return...I predict great profits from this one.
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...Viruses and other bits of Malware will be out in the wild ready to hit machines running Vista when corporations and other VLK owners start getting it installed and running. Microsoft claims it is their "Most Secure Operating System EVER," should be interesting to see how well they actually do maintaining that claim. I bet nothing for 2 days, but ~5 within the next week. What should be more interesting is how much press they get, and how Microsoft responds to them.
Yeah, because nobody using Linux in the US watches DVD's without the proper licenses...
The thing with the "simplified" (I think that is a very relative term in relation to any GUI) interface is that not only are the kids going to be using it, but there are going to be teachers using it too. Teachers who have never used a computer before. And while I agree, children have no problems picking up the basics of different UI's (having the practical example of my sister, who, at six, had absolutly no problem using the standard Windows Interface, Gnome, and a hyper-minimalistic Litestep skin with a dock at the bottom of the screen) older people (in my case, parents and their friends) need what essentially amounts to a basic tutorial on what is where if the UI changes in the least. If slightly older people who encounter computers on a daily basis (or even teens who think about not the concepts of the UI, but formulaicly think "click this for this, then that, and then that happens") have issues going from one UI to another, or even using the UI they are used to, then how can you expect someone who has probably never encountered and/or used a computer before to do so? You have to make it as simple as possible. They basically just removed all the stuff that is likely to confuse someone. For the kids growing up using these, the UI looks similar enough that even if they formulaicly think "this and this for that" and don't think about the concepts, they shouldn't be lost on most typical UI's.
...Unless someone happens to not be technologically literate...(sounds funny, I know, but think of the reaction on any non-techies face even MENTIONING the idea of building a computer...)
Yeah, they couldn't think about all the details like that whole more secure thing...
It's less about the people in the homes. If you have read the article, you would have seen the picture of the people at the internet cafe. And guess what? They, the majority, are going to be affected by this. Since they don't have computers at home, they are less likely to really know the difference (AKA, how many people you know who don't know a computer who care about any tech issues vs. how many care about tech issues that do). They probably won't understand whats going on, they will just see that something they could do before takes more time now...
How should this shut him up? Did you even RTFM? The virus was due to the iPods being processed through a single machine running Windows...nothing about a mac being infected at all, or any flaws in mac security...
That "Incremental Update" with Apple isn't just a bunch of bug fixes though. From 10.2 to 10.3 there are a significant number of changes to the functionality of the OS, as well as the obligatory bug fixes and other patches. Whether it is worth $129, well, probably not...Then again, I don't own a Mac, so I can't quite say for sure whether it's worth it or not.
...to see both of these groups in a dispute like this. Really, I don't understand what the Debian Dev's problem was in the first place. If someone tried to call Ubuntu, Mepis, or Knoppix "Debian", they would have issues too...
Oh, and I'm sure Nintendo and Sony and Microsoft never charged $500-$600 for their console, either...
WTF? Have you EVER used Ubuntu? The Ubuntu Community is possibly the most understanding community out there, with even the most noobish questions being answered nicely sans condecension. You state that updates online are a bad idea. Neither windows or OSX update any other way, normally. OSX I have no idea about (not talking about new os versions) and Microsoft will, if you send them money, send you a CD with all the updates UP TO A CERTAIN DATE. They do not make this readily apparent to any end user, so they might as well not do this at all. You state that installing any linux software requires you to compile any software you want yourself. Yet again, not true. Apt-get? Synaptic? Hello? And a myriad of other programs that come compiled when you download them. The only semi-valid point you have is the one about the drivers. I myself had to download the FGLRX drivers before I could even get X to work...
And, just so's you know, I don't believe it should be transferable, or be able to be owned by a non-individual (read: company).
Legally, a corporation (at least here in the states) is an individual person, with all the legal rights of a live, flesh-and-blood person. While I know company does not necessarily equal corporation, just figured I should point that out...
Of course, because the KKK says nothing that could be construed as "hate speech" during their rallies, marches, and other events that they decide to have in public venues...
...it is still the restriction of free speech. While truly "free" speech doesn't exist, even in the US (you can't yell "FIRE" in a crowded theater for the fun of it), governments should strive, as much as possible, to maintain the free speech in as intact a form is as reasonably possible. This strikes me as very Orwellian in nature: Not only are they restricting the speech of several people and groups (based on very vaguely defined criteria) but also essentially curtailing their right to assemble. Personally, it is sad that many other countries in the world do not have their citizens rights as plainly defined as we do here in the states. However, considering how much good that is doing us, perhaps that isn't quite enough either...
Uhh, I assume you know about synaptic, yes? The installer-thingy with a GUI...after 20 hours, you should have run across it somewhere...
Road warrior use with what? When it came out, it was this giant "event" in the PPC world...then a bunch of people who run PPC sites got their hands on one for reviews...bottom line...it sucked.
Nothing that takes your soul as payment for usage can be quantified as "free"...
Damn small linux actually installs and runs on 486's, with a gui. Linky goodness http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/486.html
Well, my parents got my little sister (7) a computer last christmas (socket A goodness, you can figure out the rest of the approximate specs), and while they want to make sure that nothing bad happens, they honestly know nothing about computers (to the point where before that, I had the only computer in the house, and was the only user). So, it was tasked upon me to try to bring my sis up right as far as tech is concerned. The computer is in her closet (something I most assuredly think is a bad idea, maybe older but not at 7) and she basically has carte blanc with it as far as non-net stuff is concerned (use whenever she wants, change whatever settings she wants, only doesn't get a password I don't know). As far as net stuff, while there are no filters set, if she wants to use the net she has to ask us and tell us what site she is going to. I check in on her every so often, and I do keep a firm hold on what appears in her history. Plus, she isn't allowed to have an e-mail account. She generally knows that I can keep up on anything I say I can do computer wise (with her personal proof being me using austrumi to reset her password when she changed it). Moreover, on my computer (not running Windows, but running Ubuntu) she has an account that she uses. Actually, she prefers Ubuntu to Windows, although her mother won't let me make any "changes" to her computer (whether sis wants them or not) because she wants to be able to use it. As far as hardware is concerned, I have tried to make sure that she develops a certain degree of comfort a familiarity with the innards of a computer (I have purchased several machines from garage sales for us to part out together). As far as games are concerned, I let her play anything on my computer (including HL2 when I still had Windows). Hope you can get something useful out of my post, and best of luck to you.
Personally, I recommend Ubuntu 6.06. I myself recently switched over to it, and have found it to be a very pleasant experiance. I even managed to convince a friend that he should totally switch after, within the space of about 20 minutes, everything "worked." Unlike in previous distos, he was able to get 3d acceleration working properly, dvd+MP3+Other Proprietary codecs, ut2k4, and he just loves the simplicity of apt-get and synaptic. Immediatly before running Ubuntu, he tried running openSUSE, which didn't quite work out for him (couldn't get anything to simply "work"). After 3 days, he removed openSUSE.
Truth be told, I don't think your going to be able to find a Neutral Source. Really, the closest you are going to get to a source you consider Neutral would be yourself. As for a feauter chart, however, that is a bit easier. Wikipedia has one here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Linux_d istributions
As far as the debate on the semantics of Mark's post are concerned, I think that it is laughable that the discussion is even taking place. If anyone actually read and understood it, they would see how comical it is that they are arguing over the semantics.
Not a browser for windows that happens to be malware! Say it ain't so!
GS: The 360 was plagued by significant shortages at launch. What steps are you taking to make sure the PS3 doesn't meet the same fate?
KH: Well, I think that you know this is all relative, but you need to put it in context. I think that we've always talked about shipping 2 million units worldwide within the calendar year. Since we're going with three territories, we haven't really come up with an allocation just yet. But even if you do the simple math you're talking about less than 700,000 units per territory, per major territory, between launch and the end of the year. So even if there was some fluctuation--you give Japan more, you give the US more, what have you--you're going to end up with some shortages. So I think that if we've done our jobs right and if we've been able to really have the consumers become interested in this product, then, unfortunately, I think it's going to be very much of a challenge to be able to meet every single unit demand that's out there in the market. That's just a logistical impossibility. Unless we suddenly say, "Well we want to wait until June of next year to launch because we want to stockpile product," I don't think that's the approach we want to take.
Great thing they are concerned about the consumer. Really, are they nuts? Charging hundreds more than their competitors (one of which has a released product and one of which has a product which will be released near it that also has better press) for the console, and running a freaking shortage? They do realize that they aren't the only major player here, that they have next to no good press, and that doing this is likely to send people running to their competitors? They really don't seem to realize that they can't just jerk around with consumers like this without being jerked back at in return...I predict great profits from this one.
Yeah, well, what about those stuck in Bahrain who don't want to remain, as you put it, "stupid and ignorant"?
Really? I thought it was "The Slashdot Effect and DOS attacks; or how I learned to stop pissing off the man and get away with it."