What? HPFS came out in 1989. HFS came out in 1985. NTFS came out in 1993. Both HPFS and NTFS were projects that MS was involved in. HFS predates both by at least 4 years. Who copied what?
it was the Lisa. A $10,000 flop, even if they tried to clear out the left overs as Mac XLs. The Mac was expensive compared to, say, the C64. The Mac became a project for Jobs after he was *forced out of the Lisa project*. His grandiose-ness-ess as a personality helps move product, but he's always been the leader of high priced flops that had technology that later payed off. See NeXTStep/OS X.
Huh? I'm not clear on what you are saying. The mini does include a heatsink on the CPU, a 2.5" HDD, and slim laptop optical drive all stacked up in 2.25" of vertical space. And the G4 ones have a full size DDR-DIMM slot. THe Intel ones have dual DDR SO-DIMM slots. That's a lot packed into a case 6.5x6.5x2.25". I'm doubting DTX can get a board built that fits under 1.5" without the HDD and optical stacked on top of it, like the mini.
"A platform trying to capture the Mac Mini market I'm guessing (however big that is)."
One problem is that the Mac mini is much smaller than this board. The *case* of the Mac mini is 165x165mm. Even if you include the power brick for the mini it'll be smaller than just the DTX mobo alone. The DTX will not be a mini killer.
This is simple proof that it's not money that will solve the worlds problems. The Foundation has truck loads of cash, and they admit they can't apply it in a way to solve world issues. Any one who makes the argument that money spent on a poorly done issue (War in Iraq, War on Drugs, etc) could be better spent on "fight poverty" or feeding the hungry" needs to take their head out of the dark moist place it's been stuck and get a breath of fresh air.
The application of many small acts will do much more to solve problems that the simple act of throwing more money at them.
I heard some stories of the early days of Voice over IP being deployed at Sprint. Here in KC Sprint is a major employer. I was at lunch at a restaurant when several Sprint guys (apparently from IT) came in and started telling war stories. One told of the time an entire building phone system failed at the flip of a single switch. The techs had just deployed a trial of VoIP for the entire building. They had, of course, placed the new VoIP server int eh data center witht he rest of the servers. Being new, they hadn't completed all the "official" labeling, and it was a trial run anyway. After a while one of the PHBs of the center was walking by and noticed an unlabeled machine in the rack. Policy said that nothing unofficial ran there, and if it wasn't labeled it was official. He powered it down and went to the phone to call some techs to get rid of the offending machine. Of course, the phone was dead. Next room, next phone. Dead. Continue ad nauseaum across the whole building with people trying to find a functional phone. Cell phones work, but nobody can call in to the building. Eventually the techs realize the VoIP server is messing up, go the the center and discover the dead phone server. While they mill around waiting for the server to come back up the PHB comes back by to tell them about the strange machine he found. He notices it back on and promptly shuts it back off. Needless the say a heated discussion of PHBs, power switches, and corporate policy and common sense ensued.
Isn't that because science is irrefutable? "A scientist says [blah], it must be true!" And then we get another article 3 months later proving the opposite. With science. Science is about debate and testing and rethinking assumptions. Writers who make the lump of "scientists say" are conveniently ignoring the debate of other scientists. It's the debate that keeps us from believing in science as a religion. You can't debate religion without being branded a heretic. You can debate science and be a crank, but you just might be right. With religion you might never know the truth. Too many people treat science like a religion with a constantly changing tome of "factual knowledge".
Apple didn't steal from Xerox. Apple entered into a payoff and IP sharing deal. The myth of Apple stealing the GUI from Xerox conveniently ignores the actual business dealings that went into transactions that made the visit of Apple engineers to Xerox possible. Pick up a real business history book, and ignore braindead headline news versions of the story.
I'm good friends with a guy who worked for Kozoru just before they folded up. I've got a couple of their cluster machines running right here next to me, heck I've got one for sale on Craigslist right now... Anyway, they had natural language search. It worked. It wasn't vaporware. Want to know what the #1 problem with their system was? The users. Most people are so mentally tied into keyword searching that they wouldn't believe that they could actually *ask the system a question* and get a meaningful result. They even built a chat-based system, called BYOMS, where you cold define what particular sites you wanted to search for various topics. The tech was great, it worked, and no one with money cared.
http://www.google.com/search?q=kozoruhttp://www.google.com/search?q=byoms
A Kansas City local computer recycler, www.surplusechange.org, lost almost all of their stuff when the building next to their old one burned to the ground. They had about 10,000gal/min of water flowing between the two, as there was an elevated pathway connecting them. It was worse than being robbed, as nothing or very little could be salvaged.
(I just posted and it came up as A/C, login didn't stick, eh?)
I remember doing something similar on my Amiga back in the day. IIRC the CLI/Shell command was something like 'echo PAR:' which read output from the console and sent it straight to the printer.
The Brazil-esqe, Cthulhu-esqe, retro mod: ElectriClerk
Heck, there's even a mod where a whole computer got put into the case of the typewriter. Maybe Google would turn up more.
Each cell site has a range of 3-15 miles and overlaps other cell sites.Wikipedia
And, depending on the cellular technology and the providers specs, it's on the short end. I've heard told by insiders at Sprint (I live in KC) that they use lower powered phones to increase battery life. Lower power == shorter range. Even 15mi is probably LOS w/ an old high powered analog phone (.6, upto 1-3W)
The most oft ignored problem with the probability argument is that once something happens, the odds of it happening go right out the window. Sure, it may have been odds of 1 to 1.35x10^345, but once it happened, the odds don't amatter, simple because it DID HAPPEN. Even if it was odds o5 1 to 2 (flipping a coin) if we get heads, it isn't impossible just because we could have had tails. It was heads, period. Odds are irrelevent.
It should also be noted that the environemnt of the room should be the largest factor in determining your cooling needs. If you have a guaranteed 65 degF 24/7 you can get by with much lower airflow rates than a varying room with peaks 79 degF and possible lows to 70 degF (typical yearly household range, I'd venture a guess without the Google trudging)
It must be because those of us here in the Mighty MO are busy surfing the career sites for those lucrative underground filmmakers!
Ya know, I've personally worked for Terror Productions, who also runs one of the biggest and most popular Haunted Houses int he city, and thee country. MO actually has a large industry in the Haunted House market. It's too bad I couldn't surf on anything better thana cell phone while waiting for the next group to make it to my room for a scare.
JDP (7+ year veteran "scare" actor, top of the rank in employee responsibility while working, ie. freedom to roam the building during hours instead of a specific room only, give breaks and stand-ins, "go-fer" for upper management, etc.)
Ahhh, the sheer clulessness of the typical Slashdotter posting on climate..
Firstly - as a fairly minor point - oil and to some extent come from those algae that use oils for bouyancy, not sugar.
Ahhh, the condescention of the typical Slashdotter making a reply to easily found facts... CAPP blurb about oil and Natual Gas formation Both land and oceanic matter account for fossil fuel deposits. I simply lumped it together as "plant matter", you simply made the assumption that I am naive and clueless. Doesn't algea grow in swamps? Yep, it's that nice green scum... How were those bouyancy oils formed, anyway? The initial hydrogen and carbon bonds had to be formed somehow, right? That would be durning the photosynthesis process. Further combnation of simple sugars into short and long chain hydrocarbons makes oils. Go back to biology class.
Divorced from reality? That depend on what YOUR particular reality distortion field is telling you. There are theories of oil formation that don't include fossil deposits.
Do you deny ice ages? If not, then the climate cycles. It's not too cold out right now, and I live almost exactly on the old glacial front line in the center of N. America. It's pretty damn easy to figure out that it's warmer now than it was then.
Oh well, I could go on but you deemed me "completely stupid' so you don't seem to want to debate, just flame.
So, does anyone even bother to think about where those 'fossil fuels' originally came from?
Oh, oh, I know! It's the remains of vast swamp lands! So the fossil fuels are old concentrations of plant matter that's been fossilized & turned into hydrocarbons of various lengths and types. So all that stuff we mine up was once on the surface as living plants that took water and CO2 and sunlight to make the sugars that were the basis of our hydrocarbon fuels. So when we burn it, we are releasing matter that was already on the surface and in the environment. Thus, as long as we have some sort of reserves of fossile fuels left, there will be fewer greenhouse gasses (CO2, CO) in the atmosphere than before all those durn swamps photosythecised it into solid material.
I make no argument against global warming per se, just against the assumption that "we caused it" and that we "we need to stop or the world will end." FUD, FUD, FUD. Life existed very well before the concentrations of materials lead to the fossile fuel deposits, and it will continue just damn fine even if we end up buring it all back out into the atmosphere that it came from anyway.
Take a moment to step back a few levels from the general aruments of human-caused global warming and give it some real critical thinking of what is going on. Climates cycle, and that's a fact. Live with it, deal with it. You're going to have to 'cause we aren't going to do anything to stop it, nor should we.
JDP
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If the first hand smoke passed through a filter, doesn't it also follow that the second hand smoke has had to pass through a filter too? ;)
What? HPFS came out in 1989. HFS came out in 1985. NTFS came out in 1993. Both HPFS and NTFS were projects that MS was involved in. HFS predates both by at least 4 years. Who copied what?
it was the Lisa. A $10,000 flop, even if they tried to clear out the left overs as Mac XLs. The Mac was expensive compared to, say, the C64. The Mac became a project for Jobs after he was *forced out of the Lisa project*. His grandiose-ness-ess as a personality helps move product, but he's always been the leader of high priced flops that had technology that later payed off. See NeXTStep/OS X.
Huh? I'm not clear on what you are saying. The mini does include a heatsink on the CPU, a 2.5" HDD, and slim laptop optical drive all stacked up in 2.25" of vertical space. And the G4 ones have a full size DDR-DIMM slot. THe Intel ones have dual DDR SO-DIMM slots. That's a lot packed into a case 6.5x6.5x2.25". I'm doubting DTX can get a board built that fits under 1.5" without the HDD and optical stacked on top of it, like the mini.
"A platform trying to capture the Mac Mini market I'm guessing (however big that is)." One problem is that the Mac mini is much smaller than this board. The *case* of the Mac mini is 165x165mm. Even if you include the power brick for the mini it'll be smaller than just the DTX mobo alone. The DTX will not be a mini killer.
This is simple proof that it's not money that will solve the worlds problems. The Foundation has truck loads of cash, and they admit they can't apply it in a way to solve world issues. Any one who makes the argument that money spent on a poorly done issue (War in Iraq, War on Drugs, etc) could be better spent on "fight poverty" or feeding the hungry" needs to take their head out of the dark moist place it's been stuck and get a breath of fresh air. The application of many small acts will do much more to solve problems that the simple act of throwing more money at them.
I heard some stories of the early days of Voice over IP being deployed at Sprint. Here in KC Sprint is a major employer. I was at lunch at a restaurant when several Sprint guys (apparently from IT) came in and started telling war stories. One told of the time an entire building phone system failed at the flip of a single switch. The techs had just deployed a trial of VoIP for the entire building. They had, of course, placed the new VoIP server int eh data center witht he rest of the servers. Being new, they hadn't completed all the "official" labeling, and it was a trial run anyway. After a while one of the PHBs of the center was walking by and noticed an unlabeled machine in the rack. Policy said that nothing unofficial ran there, and if it wasn't labeled it was official. He powered it down and went to the phone to call some techs to get rid of the offending machine. Of course, the phone was dead. Next room, next phone. Dead. Continue ad nauseaum across the whole building with people trying to find a functional phone. Cell phones work, but nobody can call in to the building. Eventually the techs realize the VoIP server is messing up, go the the center and discover the dead phone server. While they mill around waiting for the server to come back up the PHB comes back by to tell them about the strange machine he found. He notices it back on and promptly shuts it back off. Needless the say a heated discussion of PHBs, power switches, and corporate policy and common sense ensued.
Isn't that because science is irrefutable? "A scientist says [blah], it must be true!" And then we get another article 3 months later proving the opposite. With science. Science is about debate and testing and rethinking assumptions. Writers who make the lump of "scientists say" are conveniently ignoring the debate of other scientists. It's the debate that keeps us from believing in science as a religion. You can't debate religion without being branded a heretic. You can debate science and be a crank, but you just might be right. With religion you might never know the truth. Too many people treat science like a religion with a constantly changing tome of "factual knowledge".
Apple didn't steal from Xerox. Apple entered into a payoff and IP sharing deal. The myth of Apple stealing the GUI from Xerox conveniently ignores the actual business dealings that went into transactions that made the visit of Apple engineers to Xerox possible. Pick up a real business history book, and ignore braindead headline news versions of the story.
I'm good friends with a guy who worked for Kozoru just before they folded up. I've got a couple of their cluster machines running right here next to me, heck I've got one for sale on Craigslist right now... Anyway, they had natural language search. It worked. It wasn't vaporware. Want to know what the #1 problem with their system was? The users. Most people are so mentally tied into keyword searching that they wouldn't believe that they could actually *ask the system a question* and get a meaningful result. They even built a chat-based system, called BYOMS, where you cold define what particular sites you wanted to search for various topics. The tech was great, it worked, and no one with money cared. http://www.google.com/search?q=kozoru http://www.google.com/search?q=byoms
A Kansas City local computer recycler, www.surplusechange.org, lost almost all of their stuff when the building next to their old one burned to the ground. They had about 10,000gal/min of water flowing between the two, as there was an elevated pathway connecting them. It was worse than being robbed, as nothing or very little could be salvaged. (I just posted and it came up as A/C, login didn't stick, eh?)
I remember doing something similar on my Amiga back in the day. IIRC the CLI/Shell command was something like 'echo PAR:' which read output from the console and sent it straight to the printer.
There it is, Underwood no. 5
The Brazil-esqe, Cthulhu-esqe, retro mod: ElectriClerk Heck, there's even a mod where a whole computer got put into the case of the typewriter. Maybe Google would turn up more.
Each cell site has a range of 3-15 miles and overlaps other cell sites. Wikipedia
And, depending on the cellular technology and the providers specs, it's on the short end. I've heard told by insiders at Sprint (I live in KC) that they use lower powered phones to increase battery life. Lower power == shorter range. Even 15mi is probably LOS w/ an old high powered analog phone (.6, upto 1-3W)
So what do you do when you really do want the lights off? Wait? Geez.
The most oft ignored problem with the probability argument is that once something happens, the odds of it happening go right out the window. Sure, it may have been odds of 1 to 1.35x10^345, but once it happened, the odds don't amatter, simple because it DID HAPPEN. Even if it was odds o5 1 to 2 (flipping a coin) if we get heads, it isn't impossible just because we could have had tails. It was heads, period. Odds are irrelevent.
About the first thing a USB exploit would do is change this key to R/W. False security.
It should also be noted that the environemnt of the room should be the largest factor in determining your cooling needs. If you have a guaranteed 65 degF 24/7 you can get by with much lower airflow rates than a varying room with peaks 79 degF and possible lows to 70 degF (typical yearly household range, I'd venture a guess without the Google trudging)
It must be because those of us here in the Mighty MO are busy surfing the career sites for those lucrative underground filmmakers! Ya know, I've personally worked for Terror Productions, who also runs one of the biggest and most popular Haunted Houses int he city, and thee country. MO actually has a large industry in the Haunted House market. It's too bad I couldn't surf on anything better thana cell phone while waiting for the next group to make it to my room for a scare. JDP (7+ year veteran "scare" actor, top of the rank in employee responsibility while working, ie. freedom to roam the building during hours instead of a specific room only, give breaks and stand-ins, "go-fer" for upper management, etc.)
Yeah, now I RTFA, but I had to get in that early post! Range covers 40 sqmi. Not too bad.
What kind of range can you get with weak, near noise-level signals? Almost pointless, eh?
My Amiga 1000 laughs in superiority.
Ahhh, the sheer clulessness of the typical Slashdotter posting on climate.. Firstly - as a fairly minor point - oil and to some extent come from those algae that use oils for bouyancy, not sugar. Ahhh, the condescention of the typical Slashdotter making a reply to easily found facts... CAPP blurb about oil and Natual Gas formation Both land and oceanic matter account for fossil fuel deposits. I simply lumped it together as "plant matter", you simply made the assumption that I am naive and clueless. Doesn't algea grow in swamps? Yep, it's that nice green scum... How were those bouyancy oils formed, anyway? The initial hydrogen and carbon bonds had to be formed somehow, right? That would be durning the photosynthesis process. Further combnation of simple sugars into short and long chain hydrocarbons makes oils. Go back to biology class. Divorced from reality? That depend on what YOUR particular reality distortion field is telling you. There are theories of oil formation that don't include fossil deposits. Do you deny ice ages? If not, then the climate cycles. It's not too cold out right now, and I live almost exactly on the old glacial front line in the center of N. America. It's pretty damn easy to figure out that it's warmer now than it was then. Oh well, I could go on but you deemed me "completely stupid' so you don't seem to want to debate, just flame.
So, does anyone even bother to think about where those 'fossil fuels' originally came from? Oh, oh, I know! It's the remains of vast swamp lands! So the fossil fuels are old concentrations of plant matter that's been fossilized & turned into hydrocarbons of various lengths and types. So all that stuff we mine up was once on the surface as living plants that took water and CO2 and sunlight to make the sugars that were the basis of our hydrocarbon fuels. So when we burn it, we are releasing matter that was already on the surface and in the environment. Thus, as long as we have some sort of reserves of fossile fuels left, there will be fewer greenhouse gasses (CO2, CO) in the atmosphere than before all those durn swamps photosythecised it into solid material. I make no argument against global warming per se, just against the assumption that "we caused it" and that we "we need to stop or the world will end." FUD, FUD, FUD. Life existed very well before the concentrations of materials lead to the fossile fuel deposits, and it will continue just damn fine even if we end up buring it all back out into the atmosphere that it came from anyway. Take a moment to step back a few levels from the general aruments of human-caused global warming and give it some real critical thinking of what is going on. Climates cycle, and that's a fact. Live with it, deal with it. You're going to have to 'cause we aren't going to do anything to stop it, nor should we. JDP