but I also feel that companies like Microsoft and Intel with their proven criminal anti-competitive practices have held back the world of computing for perhaps 5-10 years. In terms of the tech world, that's a lot of time.
Thank you! Every time I point this out, I get modded flamebait or troll. Bill Gates is a criminal who has actually brought the industry to a standstill with his illegal practices.
They've made their money, millions and millions, maybe they really do care more about the presentation than anything else at this point (maybe they always have).
Paraphrasing, they say that they can't have a stable ABI because of small differences in how C compilers compile things (alignment of structures, etc.).
First of all, they're not saying the can't, they're saying they don't want to. There's a key difference here. Also, Linux runs on far more architectures than Windows does, so that might also be taken into consideration.
This question doesn't really make sense, since the kernel shipped by distributions varies a bit from distro to distro. However, whenever I plug my external diagnosis harddrive with 10.6 installed into my PC it gets mounted read-only and works nicely. This is on Kubuntu 10.10 running kernel 2.6.35-24-generic, which is a vendor-supplied kernel.
Office runs on OS X, and are there actually people who are dependent on.NET? In that case: Idiots. Open Directory is a good replacement for Active Directory. The only point you have is the problem of running it on commodity hardware, and if you actually would want a 1U server.
Well, his attempt to connect the macbook to the apple monitor was a golden "it just works" moment. The macbook not only lacks the only connection option of the Apple Cinema display (displayport), but even if you bought a (very expensive) converter, it still does not work as the 27" has a native resolution that the macbook does not support. So of course then my boss gets a new Mac Mini to hook up to his new monitor. I first learned about the whole thing when he emailed me after trying to do the transfer of his user account from the macbook to his mac mini - the keychain was not transferred, another "classic" (since the transfer process has burnt me too the one time I tried it) "just works" moment..
So your boss is a moron and you have a profound misunderstanding of "It just works". Nice.
"All those"? Since the first ones used DVI, there's no dongle. The later ones used Mini-DVI and Mini-Displayport, if you were smart and got a Mini-Displayport adapter, you can still use that same adapter on the new one. 'All those dongles' indeed. Maybe two. You can attack Apple on a lot of different things, but here you're just trying too hard to create a problem that's not even there.
Really... there is nothing, I repeat NOTHING which is as robust or catered to large enterprise user/LAN management than Active Directory. This is one of the major reasons why large enterprises have not left Microsoft.
Seriously? With Group Policy Objects and the like, Active Directory is actually the one you want to argue about? Red Hat has RHDS, which is based on Netscape Directory Server, it scales and performs very well. Novell has eDirectory, which pisses on Active Directory. And there's also OpenLDAP.
Well, since you want to be a dick about it, I can too. OS X is certified UNIX and bigger than both Solaris and AIX in terms of users, and it uses bash as the default shell. So you can take your 'real unix' elitism back to the fucking '90s and suck it.
Debian ships binary and non-free stuff all the time, including the nvidia drivers, as long as it is legal for them to do so. These go into the "contrib" and "non-free" repositories that aren't turned on by default, but they're still part of the Debian project and on Debian mirrors.
Did you miss the part where I said "And you've turned on the non-free repository"? I will maintain, that since these need additional steps to enable, that the Debian project doesn't 'ship' them in the same sense as everything that's enabled in the vanilla Debian repository. You have to make changes and a willful decision to install the nvidia drivers and they don't come with a pretty 'enable this driver'-gui.
Your post isn't even remotely relevant to the topic. Debian never has, and never will, ship binary nvidia drivers, these need to be installed after your base system is up and running and you've turned on the non-free repository. Basic display drivers or nouveau will work without closed source firmware.
It's nice that they contribute back. However, the very same people that they got source code and tech from for free are likely to use Linux as a desktop/workstation system and giving back a client would be polite and a nice thing to do.
He's not trying to convert Windows users to Linux or saying he's got a longer list than Windows on Linux. Please read again and atleast try to comprehend what he's saying.
Seriously, Sony isn't any worse in this respect than Nintendo or MS is.
Yes they are. They fooled customers into thinking they would support an open source environment and would be an affordable route to get a Cell-based computer. Then after they have gotten people to buy into their lies, they pull that support. I'm pretty sure that has a term... Oh yeah, bait-and-switch.
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I chuckled a bit at the response he got: "Yeah, they showed up in the kernel!"
Putting lik-sang out of buisness, adding rootkits to their cds, crippling their hardware with artificial limitations. They're scumbags.
but I also feel that companies like Microsoft and Intel with their proven criminal anti-competitive practices have held back the world of computing for perhaps 5-10 years. In terms of the tech world, that's a lot of time.
Thank you! Every time I point this out, I get modded flamebait or troll. Bill Gates is a criminal who has actually brought the industry to a standstill with his illegal practices.
I'd be willing to bet more people have seen the Windows source in depth than the Linux code base in depth.
Care to back that up with some statistics?
Oh man, I'm boned.
They've made their money, millions and millions, maybe they really do care more about the presentation than anything else at this point (maybe they always have).
Apparantly not.
Paraphrasing, they say that they can't have a stable ABI because of small differences in how C compilers compile things (alignment of structures, etc.).
First of all, they're not saying the can't, they're saying they don't want to. There's a key difference here. Also, Linux runs on far more architectures than Windows does, so that might also be taken into consideration.
What if I make a device that only I have? Will they accept a driver that is only useful for me?
Yes, there are drivers in the kernel which has only one user.
http://lxr.linux.no/linux/Documentation/stable_api_nonsense.txt
Does Linux support HFS+ out of the box?
This question doesn't really make sense, since the kernel shipped by distributions varies a bit from distro to distro. However, whenever I plug my external diagnosis harddrive with 10.6 installed into my PC it gets mounted read-only and works nicely. This is on Kubuntu 10.10 running kernel 2.6.35-24-generic, which is a vendor-supplied kernel.
Office runs on OS X, and are there actually people who are dependent on .NET? In that case: Idiots. Open Directory is a good replacement for Active Directory. The only point you have is the problem of running it on commodity hardware, and if you actually would want a 1U server.
http://www.puredarwin.org/
Well, his attempt to connect the macbook to the apple monitor was a golden "it just works" moment. The macbook not only lacks the only connection option of the Apple Cinema display (displayport), but even if you bought a (very expensive) converter, it still does not work as the 27" has a native resolution that the macbook does not support. So of course then my boss gets a new Mac Mini to hook up to his new monitor. I first learned about the whole thing when he emailed me after trying to do the transfer of his user account from the macbook to his mac mini - the keychain was not transferred, another "classic" (since the transfer process has burnt me too the one time I tried it) "just works" moment..
So your boss is a moron and you have a profound misunderstanding of "It just works". Nice.
He's not referring to regular users, but /. readers.
"All those"? Since the first ones used DVI, there's no dongle. The later ones used Mini-DVI and Mini-Displayport, if you were smart and got a Mini-Displayport adapter, you can still use that same adapter on the new one. 'All those dongles' indeed. Maybe two. You can attack Apple on a lot of different things, but here you're just trying too hard to create a problem that's not even there.
How will thick clients help the problem with a broken switch?
Really... there is nothing, I repeat NOTHING which is as robust or catered to large enterprise user/LAN management than Active Directory. This is one of the major reasons why large enterprises have not left Microsoft.
Seriously? With Group Policy Objects and the like, Active Directory is actually the one you want to argue about? Red Hat has RHDS, which is based on Netscape Directory Server, it scales and performs very well. Novell has eDirectory, which pisses on Active Directory. And there's also OpenLDAP.
Well, since you want to be a dick about it, I can too. OS X is certified UNIX and bigger than both Solaris and AIX in terms of users, and it uses bash as the default shell. So you can take your 'real unix' elitism back to the fucking '90s and suck it.
Debian ships binary and non-free stuff all the time, including the nvidia drivers, as long as it is legal for them to do so. These go into the "contrib" and "non-free" repositories that aren't turned on by default, but they're still part of the Debian project and on Debian mirrors.
Did you miss the part where I said "And you've turned on the non-free repository"? I will maintain, that since these need additional steps to enable, that the Debian project doesn't 'ship' them in the same sense as everything that's enabled in the vanilla Debian repository. You have to make changes and a willful decision to install the nvidia drivers and they don't come with a pretty 'enable this driver'-gui.
Your post isn't even remotely relevant to the topic. Debian never has, and never will, ship binary nvidia drivers, these need to be installed after your base system is up and running and you've turned on the non-free repository. Basic display drivers or nouveau will work without closed source firmware.
It's nice that they contribute back. However, the very same people that they got source code and tech from for free are likely to use Linux as a desktop/workstation system and giving back a client would be polite and a nice thing to do.
It's no wonder you smell poop, it's coming straight out of your mouth.
He's not trying to convert Windows users to Linux or saying he's got a longer list than Windows on Linux. Please read again and atleast try to comprehend what he's saying.
How to find you Ms. "Anonymous Coward"?
Seriously, Sony isn't any worse in this respect than Nintendo or MS is.
Yes they are. They fooled customers into thinking they would support an open source environment and would be an affordable route to get a Cell-based computer. Then after they have gotten people to buy into their lies, they pull that support. I'm pretty sure that has a term... Oh yeah, bait-and-switch.