I think you're talking about a scheme similar to what IBM et al use on their servers, where they come with a bunch of processors which you don't pay for unless you want to use them.
I agree that this is a viable market technique for price discrimination.
However, in this case, I'm not sure that this is really equivalent. All a phone uses is bandwidth from the provider. If they can't supply enough, they should just throttle it down. The type of service consuming bandwidth shouldn't matter.
Interesting. I also use T-Mobile, and MP3 ringtones work just fine on my phone, transferred via bluetooth from my laptop, no less! (cheap Nokia of some sort, came free with service).
Besides, they should've given'em to some real college students, like engineering majors. I'd love to stop carrying a pile 8 inches thick of textbooks around the campus every freakin' day. I mean, that can't be good for your back.
A real engineering student would have realized that you don't need to carry all of your textbooks around with you all the time.
Odd you should bring this up as OS X decides that the entire world outside your user profile doesn't exist. Granted there are no warning when you try to access it via the GUI, in fact there is no accessing the file system using the GUI. OS X provides you with a sand box for you to play in and hides the rest, at least Windows gives you the benefit of the doubt and asks if you know what you are doing. The same goes for hidden files/folders as well.
Yes I know you can access it via the command line, but should I have to?
I'm not actually sure what you're referring to by this. What exactly do you think the Finder displays to you, if not the file system?
However, if what you mean is accessing such locations as/usr or/var, you can do that using the Finder menu Go -> Go to Folder... (command-shift-G).
For example, keeping our defense budget up ensures we maintain a large cadre of highly competent engineers.
That assumes that (1) the high defense budget is distributed in a way which favors engineering, and (2) the controls on the spending of those funds (e.g., in the procurement process) assure that "highly competent" engineering is particularly favored.
Neither of those is assured merely by "keeping our defense budget up".
True, a lot of money is spent on useless boondoggles, but I work for a small engineering firm that exists almost entirely on defense budgets. And there are a lot of similar firms out there, not to mention the majors. Not only does the work we do trickle down to civilian industries, merely performing work requiring degrees in engineering ensures that there will be people pursuing such degrees.
Spending the money on certain welfare programs instead would not encourage intellectuality.
There is certainly at least an argument with regard to almost any social welfare program that exists currently that it would encourage this, in that addressing basic survival needs more fully enables people to engage in intellectual pursuits to which they may be inclined and capable by nature but inhibited from by economic situation.
Ah, but there's the alternative argument that some forms of welfare enable people to subsist comfortably without furthering themselves, and not need to pursue the education which they would otherwise require to live comfortably.
Naked girls. Guys would flock to science if there wers lots of naked girls.
Meanwhile, women run from science because even in the most intellectual establishments, the people who run it are still little more than slathering ape-beasts who despite over twenty thousand years of evolution still think the penis is the center of the universe.
Meanwhile, women run from science because even in the most intellectual establishments, the people who run it are still little more than slathering ape-beasts who because of over twenty thousand years of evolution still think the penis is the center of the universe.
FTFY... seriously... how do you think evolution works?
However, to do so successfully we can't be anti-intellectual, and that's where I part with GP. The Republicans are the party that panders to anti-intellectualism
Republicans and Democrats would just budget toward intellectual pursuits differently. For example, keeping our defense budget up ensures we maintain a large cadre of highly competent engineers. Consider the large amount of science conducted by NASA and DARPA. Spending the money on certain welfare programs instead would not encourage intellectuality. So both parties are guilty, they just focus on different areas.
Perhaps he could have a big red button on his desk labelled "BAN", and could amuse himself by disconnecting people that make fun of him? The summary seems a little alarmist...
Indeed. It's all a bit strange in the US. If you owe someone money you have to write a cheque. Apparently procedures arr so lax... people can empty your bank account.
You are talking about the absolute bottom of the line Macbook. Does anyone buy the absolute bottom of the line Ferrari? Not many.
I bought the bottom end MacBook. I'm a software developer in the aerospace/defense industry. It serves my needs (GCC, UNIX, TextWrangler) better than any Windows system.
My mom and a couple of my friends are also happy owners of the lowest-end MacBook.
FWIW, I saw some numbers that indicated the average price customers paid for an Apple laptop was $1400, across the MacBook and MacBook Pro line. So if you claim the $1000 is unreasonable, I claim $1400 is then entirely reasonable. Still think you can find a comparable HP/Dell for $700-900 less?
As you pointed out you get crazy long support cycles out of MSFT. Win2K will be supported until April next year IIRC, and WinXP until 2014. And the simple fact is that now Apple has switched to Intel you can buy the SAME hardware that is in a Macbook or Macbook Pro for $700- $900 or more cheaper from a Dell or HP. So the price difference is for OSX and the pretty. So for an Apple guy to say Windows is expensive when they are paying that much for OSX PLUS having to "rebuy" it every year is just nuts.
I think part of it is when people exaggerate the cost difference, Mac people exaggerate back the cost savings.
Please point me to a Dell/HP equivalent of a MacBook I can purchase for $100-$300 ($1000 minus $700-$900).
To provide an opposing viewpoint, when I go into RadioShack I usually know what I want, but not where exactly to find it... so I appreciate when they offer to help because then I tell them what I'm looking for, and they direct me to the proper location.
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It depends what neighborhood you go to. I grew up in Chicago (the city itself, not a suburb), and never encountered any problems.
I think you're talking about a scheme similar to what IBM et al use on their servers, where they come with a bunch of processors which you don't pay for unless you want to use them.
I agree that this is a viable market technique for price discrimination.
However, in this case, I'm not sure that this is really equivalent. All a phone uses is bandwidth from the provider. If they can't supply enough, they should just throttle it down. The type of service consuming bandwidth shouldn't matter.
Interesting. I also use T-Mobile, and MP3 ringtones work just fine on my phone, transferred via bluetooth from my laptop, no less! (cheap Nokia of some sort, came free with service).
I think this is still a Slashdot post error... I think the GP was attempting to comment on the Windows 7 parties article.
You can get a nice college-ruled notebook at the grocery store for $0.70.
Besides, they should've given'em to some real college students, like engineering majors. I'd love to stop carrying a pile 8 inches thick of textbooks around the campus every freakin' day. I mean, that can't be good for your back.
A real engineering student would have realized that you don't need to carry all of your textbooks around with you all the time.
Wait, so you're saying you actually have to have a product that people want, not just expensive ad campaigns?!
Odd you should bring this up as OS X decides that the entire world outside your user profile doesn't exist. Granted there are no warning when you try to access it via the GUI, in fact there is no accessing the file system using the GUI. OS X provides you with a sand box for you to play in and hides the rest, at least Windows gives you the benefit of the doubt and asks if you know what you are doing. The same goes for hidden files/folders as well.
Yes I know you can access it via the command line, but should I have to?
I'm not actually sure what you're referring to by this. What exactly do you think the Finder displays to you, if not the file system?
However, if what you mean is accessing such locations as /usr or /var, you can do that using the Finder menu Go -> Go to Folder... (command-shift-G).
Build a Man a Fire, and He'll Be Warm for a Day, Teach a mean to build his own fire and ruin a perfectly good business opportunity.
Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life!
Hou did yow end wp with tuo 'w' keys?
Yow misspelled "uith."
That assumes that (1) the high defense budget is distributed in a way which favors engineering, and (2) the controls on the spending of those funds (e.g., in the procurement process) assure that "highly competent" engineering is particularly favored.
Neither of those is assured merely by "keeping our defense budget up".
True, a lot of money is spent on useless boondoggles, but I work for a small engineering firm that exists almost entirely on defense budgets. And there are a lot of similar firms out there, not to mention the majors. Not only does the work we do trickle down to civilian industries, merely performing work requiring degrees in engineering ensures that there will be people pursuing such degrees.
There is certainly at least an argument with regard to almost any social welfare program that exists currently that it would encourage this, in that addressing basic survival needs more fully enables people to engage in intellectual pursuits to which they may be inclined and capable by nature but inhibited from by economic situation.
Ah, but there's the alternative argument that some forms of welfare enable people to subsist comfortably without furthering themselves, and not need to pursue the education which they would otherwise require to live comfortably.
Naked girls. Guys would flock to science if there wers lots of naked girls.
Meanwhile, women run from science because even in the most intellectual establishments, the people who run it are still little more than slathering ape-beasts who despite over twenty thousand years of evolution still think the penis is the center of the universe.
Meanwhile, women run from science because even in the most intellectual establishments, the people who run it are still little more than slathering ape-beasts who because of over twenty thousand years of evolution still think the penis is the center of the universe.
FTFY... seriously... how do you think evolution works?
However, to do so successfully we can't be anti-intellectual, and that's where I part with GP. The Republicans are the party that panders to anti-intellectualism
Republicans and Democrats would just budget toward intellectual pursuits differently. For example, keeping our defense budget up ensures we maintain a large cadre of highly competent engineers. Consider the large amount of science conducted by NASA and DARPA. Spending the money on certain welfare programs instead would not encourage intellectuality. So both parties are guilty, they just focus on different areas.
Poppies?
Pouring gasoline on burning babies, I think.
Dangit, and all this time I've poured babies on burning gasoline! No wonder things haven't worked out for me...
Perhaps he could have a big red button on his desk labelled "BAN", and could amuse himself by disconnecting people that make fun of him? The summary seems a little alarmist...
So that's what happened to the flickr picture!
I'm thinking of opening a treatment center for gambling addicts... it will cost $15k and offer 7-3 odds on being cured.
In my state (of mind), I use a shovel to keep them on my property.
On, or under?
Great point! Historically, a lot of ground-breaking research has been done by folks without degrees or funding... just an insatiable curiosity.
Indeed. It's all a bit strange in the US. If you owe someone money you have to write a cheque. Apparently procedures arr so lax ... people can empty your bank account.
You pirate! So that's where my money went!
You are talking about the absolute bottom of the line Macbook. Does anyone buy the absolute bottom of the line Ferrari? Not many.
I bought the bottom end MacBook. I'm a software developer in the aerospace/defense industry. It serves my needs (GCC, UNIX, TextWrangler) better than any Windows system.
My mom and a couple of my friends are also happy owners of the lowest-end MacBook.
FWIW, I saw some numbers that indicated the average price customers paid for an Apple laptop was $1400, across the MacBook and MacBook Pro line. So if you claim the $1000 is unreasonable, I claim $1400 is then entirely reasonable. Still think you can find a comparable HP/Dell for $700-900 less?
As you pointed out you get crazy long support cycles out of MSFT. Win2K will be supported until April next year IIRC, and WinXP until 2014. And the simple fact is that now Apple has switched to Intel you can buy the SAME hardware that is in a Macbook or Macbook Pro for $700- $900 or more cheaper from a Dell or HP. So the price difference is for OSX and the pretty. So for an Apple guy to say Windows is expensive when they are paying that much for OSX PLUS having to "rebuy" it every year is just nuts.
I think part of it is when people exaggerate the cost difference, Mac people exaggerate back the cost savings.
Please point me to a Dell/HP equivalent of a MacBook I can purchase for $100-$300 ($1000 minus $700-$900).
...it must be pretty abstract, since an "automated teller machine machine" is apparently running in emulation anyhow.
Perhaps the "machine" is to distinguish from the other potential meanings of ATM... such as "asynchronous transfer mode."
To provide an opposing viewpoint, when I go into RadioShack I usually know what I want, but not where exactly to find it... so I appreciate when they offer to help because then I tell them what I'm looking for, and they direct me to the proper location.
I think an accepted short form would be MSFT.