I'm the original poster. I agree with you. I live in Texas where the speed limit is actually 75-80mph in some very rural places. Drivers should have the option of going over the speed limit for a set amount of time. I'll say 20-30 seconds but I'm sure the insurance companies can come up with a better figure.
Lets see... almost 57 years ago, Japan bombed the crap out of Pearl Harbor and a year and a half before that... German Blitzed Poland, etc. The US wasn't a world power.
A few decades before that... the Prussian army was the scourge of Europe. The US was barely on the map.
Before that... the French controlled most of the European land mass. The US was an also-ran....
And so on.
Holy cr*p. Things change! Politics, Religion, Climate... all these things we expect to stay static... aren't.
AAAAAAHHHHHH!
T
Not sure what information the pages had on them, but you can get a lot of technical information on stations from the FCC. Including the the exact lat/long of their antenna, it's height above sea level, output in watts, etc.
http://www.fcc.gov/mb/video/tvq.html
You can also easily get programming information at tv.yahoo.com.
I'm not sure what Neilsen is trying to "protect" here.
I work for one of the many telecom companies along I-75 in Dallas that develop hardware and software capable of "monitoring a user". If the Texas State Senate and the Governor are dumb enough to sign this bill into law they're going to see all the companies leave for RTP, Phonenix, etc.
And despite the fact that everyone thinks Texas is a bunch of hicks... chances are better than not that your data is getting carried over a platform or software designed in Plano or Richardson Texas./and I've put in a lot of time in San Jose, Seattle, DC, Charlotte, NYC and Vegas. The best telecom programmers (in the US) are in Dallas.
This actually kind of old news. These violins were made with wood from trees that went through the Little Ice Age. Cold weather hinders growth in trees and the resulting wood has densities different than what can be found anywhere in the world now. Even if you found a tree that old, like a redwood, it would have rings/growth from after this time period and the harmonics would be different. That's what makes these violins so special... they're literally irreplaceable.
Seriously... zero-g has no effect on this equipment. Yes it has to have more radiation shielding and has to be shock mounted to survive the launch but other that it could be an iPod or a DirectTV DVR. There's nothing innovative about this. They shot an ethernet switch into space... big deal. Call me when someone invents a way to use quantum entanglement to communicate faster than light. That's news.
The duty of the military, any military, it to be prepared to strike immediately and decisively. A more physical example is sending bombers towards a foreign airspace to gauge their response and determine how to adjust your attack profile. This was common practice during the cold war and Russia has started it up again. It's a little bit of "saber-rattling" mostly it's just reconnaissance and planning.
My company did some contract work with contract work with a Motorola group out in Phoenix. This was a commercial project but for some reason the offices were in the middle of a secure Northrop Grumman facility. Motorola failed to tell us this.
I show up with the other contractor, a exceedingly bright and very likeable guy... who happened to be British. As soon as the NG staff found out, they were hell bent on throwing him out. This guy had been an officer in the RAF, had security clearance in GB and had basic security clearance here in the US but as soon as they found out he wasn't a US citizen they went berserk. The best part about it was they asked me if I was a US citizen "Yes" (I am)... and that was that. They didn't actually ask me for any proof and there was no question of security clearance at all.
We finally struck an "agreement" where he had to be escorted by NG security personal when he was outside of the Motorola area. Which included the restrooms and the dining hall.
We only put him through two weeks of that b.s. before we shuffled assignments. He got sent off to Vegas while I was stuck in Phoenix. Figures:p
The CDC Epidemiology Program Office is one the best, if not the best, epidemiology programs in the world. And they work with sanitized (i.e. private) data and they don't need to know how many times a day you read Slashdot or what type of dirty messages your sending your s/o (although that might be related to your infection;p).
As others have pointed out above, giving data like this to Google is just *stupid*. The medical records I have in my possession are in a locked fire-safe and only come out when I change doctors or go to a new one.
Laying fiber across a countryside, much less an ocean requires corporate dollars. Even Gates, Ellison, etc. would notice a substantial hit to their pocket book if they funded a trans-oceanic cable. And, that cable has to be maintained. That cost money.
The point is, your internet communications are always going to in control of someone with a lot more money and susceptible and even beholden to political influence. Get used to it.
Encrypt your data if necessary (99.5% of it is no where near that important) and you're done.
What kills me is that a quarter to a half of the people who are up in arms about this publish their daily lives and personal details on blogs which Google, MSN and Yahoo immediately suck up. Yet it if the NSA wants to know whats going on... they go ape-sh*t. Here's a clue people... I don't talk about my private life on the intertubes... never have... never will.
This is not an "anonymous" IP block. It's a Class A block reserved by IANA. For example:
6.x.x.x belongs to Army Information Systems Center - USAISC, Yuma Proving Ground, AZ (NET-YPG-NET)
7.x.x.x belongs Defense Information Systems Agency, VA (NET-DISANET2)
and it's not just the government that gets love:
9.x.x.x IBM Corporation, NY (NET-IBM)
12.x.x.x AT&T (NET-ATT)
17.x.x.x Apple Computer Inc., CA (NET-APPLE-WWNET) (And Apple can't be evil right?)
It is most definitely being spoofed... although, as others have pointed out... this takes some talent.
A sampling of some of these terrible, horrendous projects:
Duality for modules over finite rings and applications to coding theory
Bounding the number of geometric permutations induced by k-transversals
A unified framework for enforcing multiple access control policies
Affine Lie algebras and multisum identities
I think these only qualify as torture if you're a math or computer science graduate student.
The NSA is not a "hands on" group... they are signal intelligence. The bulk of these grants appear to be for exactly that, signal intelligence. I'm sure a few of them may have some mysterious/questionable motives but the bulk of them are nerds working on computers trying to break ciphers or improve our own.
1. Female avatars are generally smaller, this is an advantage in games like Rainbow Six, Ghost Recon, etc. where people are shooting at you.
2. Most games properly represent women as more agile but not as strong (this is statistically correct). This is an advantage for rouge/mage type characters.
3. Men (playing the game) are more likely to interact and cooperate with Female avatars.
Several posts have mentioned that "I'm playing an Elf from the planet foobar... why can't I play a woman?". I agree. They are fantasy games.
My $0.02 USD (which is apparently worth nothing the past few months)
How do you think they pay for those "free" services? Through taxes. There is no such thing as a "free" government service. Your Wi-Fi may be "free" but you'll end up paying more at the store, or on your property taxes, etc. Government is supposed to be a zero sum game. If you add something you have to taking something from somewhere else. And honestly, having done contract IT work for State and Federal agencies for almost seven years, I'm not sure I'd want to use a municipal WiFi service (not a knock on all government agencies... some have really impressed me).
Failing that a large wifi link (you can bump up the power a crap-ton once you have a ham license) could also work
No... you can't... at least not in the United States. The 2.4ghz spectrum itself is regulated and having a ham license does not allow you to blast out whatever you want on this spectrum. I hope you're not a ham operator because if you are you should know better than this, if for no other reason that doing so would most likely screw with other peoples wireless setup. I would be a little pissed is someone setup a multi-watt transmitter whose signal happened to burn through my house. And even really good directional antenna's bloom.
Packet radio is your best choice. Talk with other people in the area, they might be willing to share setup and ongoing costs with you. I would highly recommend setting up a caching proxy like squid (http://www.squid-cache.org/) to help ease the load on the connection... especially if you end up sharing the connection.
Be aware that heavy rain can attenuate radio signals. If you're some place like the pacific northeast, this might cause you problems.
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I was a game developer almost 8 years ago (no where near my full C.V. but just to prove I'm not blowing smoke).
Further... until recently I ran two Gentoo boxes and on Debian box at my house, set up more than one IT shop on Linux and Samba and was the black sheep at my last job in a Windows/.NET shop. I've been running at least one critical system on Linux since about 1998. I know and love Linux.
With that said... there is not a chance in hell that I, as a game developer, would ever release a game for Linux (in it's current state).
What platform are you running on?
What distribution are you running?
What build?
Is 32 or 64-bit?
What video card are you using?
Are you using the vendors drivers or open source drivers?
What sound driver are you using?
What front end are you using (KDE or Gnome)?
Have you updated to this version of libc?
Have you enabled/disabled this option in your kernel (you can see where it goes downhill from here).
The problem is that Linux is a victim of it's own success. You can do anything with it... and, as a consequence... expose developers and support technicians to a version of hell worse than they ever imagined.
The support costs for Linux systems are substantial. And just not worth it. Besides the requirements are now substantially different. By a 360/PS3/Wii to fulfill your gaming needs and buy a lower powered PC rigged for power saving for your 24/7 needs.
So... someone dumps a high yield nuke (more likely a few high yield nukes) on one location and the whole GPS system goes to hell after a few days/weeks?
Please tell me this isn't the case. Otherwise someone didn't think their cunning plan all the way through.
I consider myself a die hard republican and even I can recognize that we have a bunch of incompetent, self-serving grab asses in office. Given that this is the FCC this money should be put to opening a up public spectrum, researching lost cost internet or even contributing to NPR or PBS (yes... I'm a conservative who loves Nova, Frontline and All Things Considered). Instead it will be used to have a go at random super-bowl boobies and censor TV shows that are on when children should be in bed.
Not that I want an Democratic administration to have the money either.
Hmm... don't Australians have topless beach, beer, grilled shrimp and beer?
Dell gaming rigs loaded up with all the crap that Dell puts on them suck. The first thing you do with any machine from a top tier vendor (or possibly any vendor for that matter) is reload the OS and just the software you need. And I'm speaking from years of dealing with Dell machines as an IT director at a small consulting firm and IT support for friends and family.
I don't like Microsoft. I don't like the fact that I can't install a server OS without installing a GUI component that I'll never use and that the security layers are becoming more abstract and obfuscated. But at the same time. Linux can be a pain in the farking arse.
I have a MythTV setup that I've been running for almost six months. I'm connected to two Motorola DCT-6200's over firewire. For the entire time I've been running this system the firewire ports that are assigned to these turners will change. And this has happened on two different firewire controllers over a range of different kernels. MythTV won't pick this this up. It will just blindly try to fire commands out to a turner that doesn't exist and then ultimately lock up.
I know... it's opensource... fix it yourself. The problem is after 10-12 hours a day fixing other peoples problems sometimes I just want to come home and watch my favorite show without opening a terminal. And hence I'm ready to *pay* other people to fix this problem. Ultimately their time is cheaper than mine.
My Mythbox is going on eBay and I'm getting Series 3 TiVO.
This doesn't diminish my passion for Linux in the data center... but work is work and play is play and sometimes you just need to hang up your hate and enjoy the rest of your life.
Have you been to Canada? I'm sorry but the last time I was at their capital (Ottawa) it was f**king -15F outside. Not -15F wind chill... -15F actual. That's F**KING COLD. In the majority of their country they have electric radiators in their cars that they have to plug in to keep the engine blocks from freezing up during the winter. In Yellowknife it can get down to -30F or less at night. There are a handful of states that have to do that in the US. Canadian climate != US climate and I have the frostbite scars to prove it.
So yes... would think that if liquid water would freeze in a matter of minutes they might want to reconsider the way they meter gasoline.
I grew up around big oil. Wells, refineries, etc. and I've heard this premise more than once. On the surface, it makes sense but it doesn't hold up in practice. There are really two problems with this theory:
1. (the most important) gasoline tanks are buried 10+ feet under ground. They don't experience the same temperature fluctuations that the surface does. The temperature of the tank can easily be 15-20 degree below ambient air temperature or more. Also, it doesn't fluctuate as much.
2. In the vast majority of the country, the *average* weather nullifies this. Even in Texas, where I grew up, a lot of the state averaged 40-50 for a few months out of the year. In New York, where I am now... the *average* daily temperature breaks 60 for a few months out of the year. Average is important. If it's only above 60, even 70, for a few hours out of the day that will have *no* effect on the tank which is sitting comfortably at 50 or so. So yes... a few months out of the year you're paying more for gas. But a few months out of the year your also paying *less* for gas and most of the time you're breaking even.
I can see this being a valid argument in AZ, Southern NV, AZ... places that are at 100+ right now. But everywhere else in the country it's just someone else trying to get something for nothing.
You also have to bear in mind that this is going to hurt the station owners, not the petroleum companies. In some cases the petroleum companies own your local gas station (usually only in high profit locations) but most of them are licensed by franchises (still private individuals) or independent owner/operators and they will end up eating the cost of the equipment. Not "big oil".
I'm not a shill and I actually don't care for big oil at all... but this is just a stupid lawsuit. Sue them for not pursuing alternative energy. Sue them for not upgrading to more efficient and clean refineries. Sue them for not managing their waste products.
This is just a petty waste of time and doomed to failure.
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Well... it does take a GT about 3.5 seconds to get up to 60 mph. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_GT
I'm the original poster. I agree with you. I live in Texas where the speed limit is actually 75-80mph in some very rural places. Drivers should have the option of going over the speed limit for a set amount of time. I'll say 20-30 seconds but I'm sure the insurance companies can come up with a better figure.
Lets see... almost 57 years ago, Japan bombed the crap out of Pearl Harbor and a year and a half before that ... German Blitzed Poland, etc. The US wasn't a world power.
A few decades before that... the Prussian army was the scourge of Europe. The US was barely on the map.
Before that... the French controlled most of the European land mass. The US was an also-ran. ...
And so on.
Holy cr*p. Things change! Politics, Religion, Climate... all these things we expect to stay static ... aren't.
AAAAAAHHHHHH!
T
Not sure what information the pages had on them, but you can get a lot of technical information on stations from the FCC. Including the the exact lat/long of their antenna, it's height above sea level, output in watts, etc. http://www.fcc.gov/mb/video/tvq.html You can also easily get programming information at tv.yahoo.com. I'm not sure what Neilsen is trying to "protect" here.
I work for one of the many telecom companies along I-75 in Dallas that develop hardware and software capable of "monitoring a user". If the Texas State Senate and the Governor are dumb enough to sign this bill into law they're going to see all the companies leave for RTP, Phonenix, etc. And despite the fact that everyone thinks Texas is a bunch of hicks... chances are better than not that your data is getting carried over a platform or software designed in Plano or Richardson Texas. /and I've put in a lot of time in San Jose, Seattle, DC, Charlotte, NYC and Vegas. The best telecom programmers (in the US) are in Dallas.
This actually kind of old news. These violins were made with wood from trees that went through the Little Ice Age. Cold weather hinders growth in trees and the resulting wood has densities different than what can be found anywhere in the world now. Even if you found a tree that old, like a redwood, it would have rings/growth from after this time period and the harmonics would be different. That's what makes these violins so special... they're literally irreplaceable.
You can't be serious. Almost every enterprise Ethernet switch has fans. Including the terrestial model of the ProCurve 2524.
Seriously... zero-g has no effect on this equipment. Yes it has to have more radiation shielding and has to be shock mounted to survive the launch but other that it could be an iPod or a DirectTV DVR. There's nothing innovative about this. They shot an ethernet switch into space... big deal. Call me when someone invents a way to use quantum entanglement to communicate faster than light. That's news.
The duty of the military, any military, it to be prepared to strike immediately and decisively. A more physical example is sending bombers towards a foreign airspace to gauge their response and determine how to adjust your attack profile. This was common practice during the cold war and Russia has started it up again. It's a little bit of "saber-rattling" mostly it's just reconnaissance and planning.
using carbon nanotubes, some epoxy, a little bit of aluminum, and large quantities of lunar dust Is there anything he can't do?
My company did some contract work with contract work with a Motorola group out in Phoenix. This was a commercial project but for some reason the offices were in the middle of a secure Northrop Grumman facility. Motorola failed to tell us this. I show up with the other contractor, a exceedingly bright and very likeable guy ... who happened to be British. As soon as the NG staff found out, they were hell bent on throwing him out. This guy had been an officer in the RAF, had security clearance in GB and had basic security clearance here in the US but as soon as they found out he wasn't a US citizen they went berserk. The best part about it was they asked me if I was a US citizen "Yes" (I am)... and that was that. They didn't actually ask me for any proof and there was no question of security clearance at all.
We finally struck an "agreement" where he had to be escorted by NG security personal when he was outside of the Motorola area. Which included the restrooms and the dining hall.
We only put him through two weeks of that b.s. before we shuffled assignments. He got sent off to Vegas while I was stuck in Phoenix. Figures :p
The CDC Epidemiology Program Office is one the best, if not the best, epidemiology programs in the world. And they work with sanitized (i.e. private) data and they don't need to know how many times a day you read Slashdot or what type of dirty messages your sending your s/o (although that might be related to your infection ;p).
As others have pointed out above, giving data like this to Google is just *stupid*. The medical records I have in my possession are in a locked fire-safe and only come out when I change doctors or go to a new one.
Laying fiber across a countryside, much less an ocean requires corporate dollars. Even Gates, Ellison, etc. would notice a substantial hit to their pocket book if they funded a trans-oceanic cable. And, that cable has to be maintained. That cost money.
The point is, your internet communications are always going to in control of someone with a lot more money and susceptible and even beholden to political influence. Get used to it.
Encrypt your data if necessary (99.5% of it is no where near that important) and you're done.
What kills me is that a quarter to a half of the people who are up in arms about this publish their daily lives and personal details on blogs which Google, MSN and Yahoo immediately suck up. Yet it if the NSA wants to know whats going on... they go ape-sh*t. Here's a clue people... I don't talk about my private life on the intertubes... never have... never will.
This is not an "anonymous" IP block. It's a Class A block reserved by IANA. For example: 6.x.x.x belongs to Army Information Systems Center - USAISC, Yuma Proving Ground, AZ (NET-YPG-NET) 7.x.x.x belongs Defense Information Systems Agency, VA (NET-DISANET2) and it's not just the government that gets love: 9.x.x.x IBM Corporation, NY (NET-IBM) 12.x.x.x AT&T (NET-ATT) 17.x.x.x Apple Computer Inc., CA (NET-APPLE-WWNET) (And Apple can't be evil right?) It is most definitely being spoofed... although, as others have pointed out... this takes some talent.
A sampling of some of these terrible, horrendous projects:
Duality for modules over finite rings and applications to coding theory
Bounding the number of geometric permutations induced by k-transversals
A unified framework for enforcing multiple access control policies
Affine Lie algebras and multisum identities
I think these only qualify as torture if you're a math or computer science graduate student.
The NSA is not a "hands on" group... they are signal intelligence. The bulk of these grants appear to be for exactly that, signal intelligence. I'm sure a few of them may have some mysterious/questionable motives but the bulk of them are nerds working on computers trying to break ciphers or improve our own.
1. Female avatars are generally smaller, this is an advantage in games like Rainbow Six, Ghost Recon, etc. where people are shooting at you.
2. Most games properly represent women as more agile but not as strong (this is statistically correct). This is an advantage for rouge/mage type characters.
3. Men (playing the game) are more likely to interact and cooperate with Female avatars.
Several posts have mentioned that "I'm playing an Elf from the planet foobar... why can't I play a woman?". I agree. They are fantasy games.
My $0.02 USD (which is apparently worth nothing the past few months)
How do you think they pay for those "free" services? Through taxes. There is no such thing as a "free" government service. Your Wi-Fi may be "free" but you'll end up paying more at the store, or on your property taxes, etc. Government is supposed to be a zero sum game. If you add something you have to taking something from somewhere else. And honestly, having done contract IT work for State and Federal agencies for almost seven years, I'm not sure I'd want to use a municipal WiFi service (not a knock on all government agencies... some have really impressed me).
Failing that a large wifi link (you can bump up the power a crap-ton once you have a ham license) could also work
No... you can't... at least not in the United States. The 2.4ghz spectrum itself is regulated and having a ham license does not allow you to blast out whatever you want on this spectrum. I hope you're not a ham operator because if you are you should know better than this, if for no other reason that doing so would most likely screw with other peoples wireless setup. I would be a little pissed is someone setup a multi-watt transmitter whose signal happened to burn through my house. And even really good directional antenna's bloom.
Packet radio is your best choice. Talk with other people in the area, they might be willing to share setup and ongoing costs with you. I would highly recommend setting up a caching proxy like squid (http://www.squid-cache.org/) to help ease the load on the connection... especially if you end up sharing the connection.
Be aware that heavy rain can attenuate radio signals. If you're some place like the pacific northeast, this might cause you problems.
I was a game developer almost 8 years ago (no where near my full C.V. but just to prove I'm not blowing smoke).
Further... until recently I ran two Gentoo boxes and on Debian box at my house, set up more than one IT shop on Linux and Samba and was the black sheep at my last job in a Windows/.NET shop. I've been running at least one critical system on Linux since about 1998. I know and love Linux.
With that said... there is not a chance in hell that I, as a game developer, would ever release a game for Linux (in it's current state).
What platform are you running on?
What distribution are you running?
What build?
Is 32 or 64-bit?
What video card are you using?
Are you using the vendors drivers or open source drivers?
What sound driver are you using?
What front end are you using (KDE or Gnome)?
Have you updated to this version of libc?
Have you enabled/disabled this option in your kernel (you can see where it goes downhill from here).
The problem is that Linux is a victim of it's own success. You can do anything with it... and, as a consequence... expose developers and support technicians to a version of hell worse than they ever imagined.
The support costs for Linux systems are substantial. And just not worth it. Besides the requirements are now substantially different. By a 360/PS3/Wii to fulfill your gaming needs and buy a lower powered PC rigged for power saving for your 24/7 needs.
So... someone dumps a high yield nuke (more likely a few high yield nukes) on one location and the whole GPS system goes to hell after a few days/weeks? Please tell me this isn't the case. Otherwise someone didn't think their cunning plan all the way through.
I consider myself a die hard republican and even I can recognize that we have a bunch of incompetent, self-serving grab asses in office. Given that this is the FCC this money should be put to opening a up public spectrum, researching lost cost internet or even contributing to NPR or PBS (yes... I'm a conservative who loves Nova, Frontline and All Things Considered). Instead it will be used to have a go at random super-bowl boobies and censor TV shows that are on when children should be in bed.
Not that I want an Democratic administration to have the money either.
Hmm... don't Australians have topless beach, beer, grilled shrimp and beer?
Dell gaming rigs are good machines.
Dell gaming rigs loaded up with all the crap that Dell puts on them suck. The first thing you do with any machine from a top tier vendor (or possibly any vendor for that matter) is reload the OS and just the software you need. And I'm speaking from years of dealing with Dell machines as an IT director at a small consulting firm and IT support for friends and family.
I don't like Microsoft. I don't like the fact that I can't install a server OS without installing a GUI component that I'll never use and that the security layers are becoming more abstract and obfuscated. But at the same time. Linux can be a pain in the farking arse. I have a MythTV setup that I've been running for almost six months. I'm connected to two Motorola DCT-6200's over firewire. For the entire time I've been running this system the firewire ports that are assigned to these turners will change. And this has happened on two different firewire controllers over a range of different kernels. MythTV won't pick this this up. It will just blindly try to fire commands out to a turner that doesn't exist and then ultimately lock up. I know ... it's opensource... fix it yourself. The problem is after 10-12 hours a day fixing other peoples problems sometimes I just want to come home and watch my favorite show without opening a terminal. And hence I'm ready to *pay* other people to fix this problem. Ultimately their time is cheaper than mine.
My Mythbox is going on eBay and I'm getting Series 3 TiVO.
This doesn't diminish my passion for Linux in the data center... but work is work and play is play and sometimes you just need to hang up your hate and enjoy the rest of your life.
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Have you been to Canada? I'm sorry but the last time I was at their capital (Ottawa) it was f**king -15F outside. Not -15F wind chill... -15F actual. That's F**KING COLD. In the majority of their country they have electric radiators in their cars that they have to plug in to keep the engine blocks from freezing up during the winter. In Yellowknife it can get down to -30F or less at night. There are a handful of states that have to do that in the US. Canadian climate != US climate and I have the frostbite scars to prove it.
So yes... would think that if liquid water would freeze in a matter of minutes they might want to reconsider the way they meter gasoline.
I grew up around big oil. Wells, refineries, etc. and I've heard this premise more than once. On the surface, it makes sense but it doesn't hold up in practice. There are really two problems with this theory:
1. (the most important) gasoline tanks are buried 10+ feet under ground. They don't experience the same temperature fluctuations that the surface does. The temperature of the tank can easily be 15-20 degree below ambient air temperature or more. Also, it doesn't fluctuate as much.
2. In the vast majority of the country, the *average* weather nullifies this. Even in Texas, where I grew up, a lot of the state averaged 40-50 for a few months out of the year. In New York, where I am now... the *average* daily temperature breaks 60 for a few months out of the year. Average is important. If it's only above 60, even 70, for a few hours out of the day that will have *no* effect on the tank which is sitting comfortably at 50 or so. So yes... a few months out of the year you're paying more for gas. But a few months out of the year your also paying *less* for gas and most of the time you're breaking even.
I can see this being a valid argument in AZ, Southern NV, AZ... places that are at 100+ right now. But everywhere else in the country it's just someone else trying to get something for nothing.
You also have to bear in mind that this is going to hurt the station owners, not the petroleum companies. In some cases the petroleum companies own your local gas station (usually only in high profit locations) but most of them are licensed by franchises (still private individuals) or independent owner/operators and they will end up eating the cost of the equipment. Not "big oil".
I'm not a shill and I actually don't care for big oil at all... but this is just a stupid lawsuit. Sue them for not pursuing alternative energy. Sue them for not upgrading to more efficient and clean refineries. Sue them for not managing their waste products.
This is just a petty waste of time and doomed to failure.