In other news today, the UN has praised Europe for its recent decline in population growth rates. While many regions have had near-balanced birth/death rates, the latest figures show a sharp increase in the death rate, putting most of Europe in a population decline. Our over-populated world thanks you!
If we can good at altering asteroid's paths, we could use near earth asteroids as ramming tools. We should ram a few into the same spot on Mars and get a nice deep crater. We get practice diverting asteroids and learn more about deeper martain soil.
I am the submitter and I must apologise. I had actually submitted an article from 1up.com which said
"it's become apparent that 1080i is currently unsupported, at least by the machine's many launch games, as 1080i-only HDTV sets are forced to experience the visuals at 480p, rather than scaling to an HD resolution of 720p."
I had missed the IGN link in the text and thus missed the chance to get the correct information from the original story. I must be more careful in the future and fact-check as well as preview before I submit...
I agree, because I've seen store logos that were clearly ment to be seen from planes in Google Earth. Like the massive Target at lat 40.783780 lon -73.833376
By the way, does anyone know how big that Taco Bell logo was? You know, the giant one that Taco Bell said they'd give everyone in America a free taco if a piece of the Mir station hit it?
True, they do get liscencing fees (all the info you could ever want about that is here) But Sony is (according to that website) obligated by the same liscencing aggreements and must pay the same fees. So even if we ignore that the the Assoc. itself needs some amount of money from the fees to maintain itself, those fees are still split up among atleast the Board of Directors. Which is enough to warrent an assumption that Sony couldn't survive solely on a cut of the liscencing fees. The real money in Blu-Ray for Sony would come in the form of what essentially boils down to a rebate on its liscencing fees plus whatever they get from the actual media sale.
Ergo my initial conclusion that the PS3's success depends on the games, not the relativly few Sony Blu-Ray disks. I suppose I could have been a bit clearer why I discounted the other blu-ray disks towards Sony's success with the PS3 (as the presence of Blu-Ray disks and Sony's machine playing Blu-Rays does not necessitate a success for the PS3, only disks made by Sony can contribute any real measurable success to the PS3 as are the only disks that significantly feedback into the PS3 production loop.) In any case, the real, true success will come because of games, Blu-Ray is an augmentation but Sony has clearly said they intended the added functionality to lead into blu-ray (atleast they have said so significantly more so than vice versa.)
On the larger scale, yes, any disk sale benefits Sony and moves them towards success. But they don't affect the PS3's profitability because their impact is blunted by other available options and relativly small ability to contribute directly back to the PS3 cost. Its the same idea as saying Sony's blu-ray player would not have impacted the PS3 if it had come out on time or not.
In defense of the Sega Saturn, it did quite well in Japan. It was so lame in the US because Sega's President didn't send over alot of the games that made it popular in Japan because he didn't think they were the kind of games Americans liked. While it may not have been Worldwide successful, I certainly don't think its one of the top 10 lamest console ever; just one of the lamest of the truly widely known consoles.
Blue-Ray is not solely Sony's. Blue-Ray is the result of the Blu-Ray Disc Association, of which Sony is a member. This does not mean Sony gets a cut of whatever Blu-Ray disk sells. It means Sony takes part in developing, through the strategic alliance of the Blr-Ray Disc Assoc., the standards of what can be called blu-ray such that a blu-ray player plays it. Sony only profits from blu-ray media it produces (as in films from Sony Motion Pictures.) Of which there are only 23 I was able to find. Although there may be more Blu-ray movies, they do not benefit Sony (outside of intagables like having a reason for a Blu-ray player or solidifying it's chose format in the market.)
This 1up article reads like it was written by someone in need of adderall. It jumps from thought to thought, often talking almost exclusivly about the other console in the wrong space before declaring a winner seemingly completly against their own reasoning, only to end abruptly with no final overall comparison.
Even if Sony hopes Blue-Ray will become a big factor, there are 23 Sony Blue-Ray DVDs out and not alot of those titles are going to appeal to everyone (little man? Stealth? The list goes on,) games (and to a much lesser extent accessories) are going to play the big role in Sony's success with the PS3 (especially short term.)Numbers from EnterBrain show 88,400 consoles sold (100,000 is an shipment estimate, EnterBrain expects the missing 12,600 are simply ones that were unable to be produced, not unsold.) 62% were high end which falls below the expected 80/20 distribution of PS3 models which, as unlike Nintendo, Sony loses money on every PS3 machine, we can conclude is actually worse as the profit-negating feature of the PS3 is likely to lie with the Blue-ray drive (and possibly to some extend the Cell; it sure isn't helping) which was present in the same cost in the lower model. We can assume that the features left off from the low end machine do not present a significant enough cost to be off set by the $100 short of the low end model (atleast not to make up the loss elsewhere, if not even making up the $100 itself.) Worse yet, despite analysis that all would likly have sold anyways, the Japanese PS3 versions were actually cheaper than what the US will recieve, most probably creating all the larger hill for Sony to surmount in the quest for profit.
But the more important factor is the game sales. Top two games sales were Ridge Racer 7 and Gundum at 30,000 each. Togther, that's only 60,000 games sold! Not even 1 game per system sold (lousy ebayers?) Of course, we don't have difinitive numbers on what the other 3 games available at Japan's launch are (only that they didn't reach 30,000) but we can only guess they might have made up atleast 22,000 if that (Doubt Genji sold well; check out the reviews, critics delt massive damage to that Giant Crab turd of a game.) Still, even assuming a difference made up towards one game sold per system sold, it is not hard to believe that that ratio will not make up the difference of system production costs.
Though it sold out, we're still in for quite a rollercoaster ride as the Wii (a 'strong' competitor with a better quick returns setup) steps in and the production of both console start to kick in to high gear for the USA Mega-holidays Spend-O-Rifica period. Rumors and unverified reports put PS3 second salvos in the US stores ready by the 20th (launch +3 days) and Wii at about the same time (launch +1, though these are rumors) and we can only guess they're going to be out in their bests ready for Post-Turkey day Shopping Madness.
Considering numerous games on the PS3 list are non-exclusive and exclusives like Genji have often been review, criticied and praised by Japan-launch capable news orgs, US shoppers have a lot of choice and information on the games to choose. Even if the PS3 sells out in the US, the different environment games are presented in here in the US (PCs and Xbox 360s being bigger here for things like CoD 3) could greatly impact Sony's success (in terms of profit and market share.)
Nintendo and Microsoft didn't just toss them in a warehouse after all! Ok, but seriously, who would do this kind of thing without some sort of prompting? I mean really, this is just too far fetched not to buy into a conspiracy theory. Come on, I can't even find any information about this China-based Wicked Laser company. Toshiba? Is that you behind the curtain?
Really now, an independent Blue-Ray laser. For $2000. From China. Nothing suspicious about that!
I'm interested, how big is Japan in the big picture? First or Second? We all know (if even just by how the companies treat them) that Europe is third most important. Anywhere other than North America, Japan, or Europe is rarely even heard in the news. But is Japan the bigger battlefield than the US? If we look at the launch numbers, Sony and Nintendo are both putting more emphasis on the US. Sony's US Launch day is scheduled to have 400,000 PS3 units, about 4x the number of their Japanese launch. Nintendo is planning a US launch day of 1,000,000 Wii units. Meanwhile I can't even find Nintendo's Japan launch day units; they don't even release in Japan until December, after the November US launch. So, the companies seem to indicate that in the big picture, the US is the bigger prize. Launching two days apart, with more units (assumed for Wii Japan) will make a much more useful comparison than a 23-day apart Japan launch with relativly fewer units.
It may also be interesting to see how Sony's launch titles did, since they need games and accessories to pull up the difference. Some of the games present on Sony's Japan launch list also appear on the Wii's. Depending on quantities of these sold compared to the number of units sold in proportion to other games per unit sold may tell us if there are customers prepared to buy the Wii as well and plan on buying those games for the Wii instead. While it would have to be a large difference to overcome the large margin of error such a comparison welcomes, it may still provide some insite into the minds of the buyers and give us a rough idea how the big US launch will go for Sony or Nintendo.
I agree, and would go further and say that even if they were only aiming for a hardcore market, they'd be even more foolish. Hardcore gamers are important to any console, but if one ignores the mainstream market it'll fail just as fast. However, I don't think they're aiming at hardcore gamers, hardcore gamers aren't all about graphics and blood level, they're about real gameplay value; that's why I'm getting a Wii. Ultimatly, if the PS3 fails, it'll be because they were just plain greedy. They overextended themselves trying to capture both the HD format and the gaming market. Perhaps it'll become a nice object lesson for future generations.
As a side note, after re-reading my orginal post, it sounds whiny and fan-boyish. I was merely trying to make an observation about CNN and possibly what it means about public opinion. I'd like to make it clear now: I hate Sony, but I like to justify it through fair evidence =P
The article is not too bad, kind of simple, but not a bad sum of the situation. But check out the ineptitude of reporting in this CNN video report!
Terrible! They talks as though there is nothing else coming out, but what's worse is how they butcher Sony's Console details
They harp on $600 and don't even mention the $500 version
They state Sony says it's worth it because it plays DVDs and wirelessly connects to the internet (No mention of Blue-Ray, HD, or 1080i)
Although you can't see it in the video, the anchors on CNN went on about it further, ragging on the $600 price being something "They'd never pay for" even the weatherman joins in.
In short, CNN botched just about every position Sony has been trying to push about the PS3. CNN should talk with it's game/technology division more often. If this is the kind of knowledge the mainstreme consumer has about the PS3, it doesn't bode well...
"Let me see if I have this down right: With the progress of multi-core CPU's, especially looking at the AMD / ATI deal, PC's are moving towards a single 'super chip' that will do everything while phasing out the use of a truly separate graphics system. Meanwhile, supercomputers are moving towards using GPU's as the main workhorse. Doesn't that strike anybody else as a little odd?" 16789087
I picture this:
Before:
CPU makers: "Hardware's expensive, keep it simple."
GPU makers: "We can specialize the expensive hardware separatly!"
Now:
CPU makers: "Hardware's cheaper and cheaper, lets keep up our profits by making our more inclusive."
GPU makers: "We can specialize the cheap hardware in really really big number-crunch projects!"
btw, why isn't the reply button showing up? I'm too lazy to hand type the address.
Well, what exactly can we do to turn this kind of situation around? Whine to congress to resurrect the Broadband America Bill? I don't see that happening. "Teach them telecoms a lesson by not buying it?" It'll never happen, we don't have that kind of organization and too many groups depend on what the system does provide. So what, pray tell, do we do? I've got no idea, but plenty of complaints. How about some proactive solutions?
As the democrats have secured both the house and the senate, it'll be interesting to see what happens the the house Net Neutrality bill famously blocked by Senator Ted "Tubes" Stevens. My representative's co-sponsorship of that bill cinched his otherwise shaky (with me) run for senator. Now that he is a senator, I can only hope he can either get it out of committee hell or help reintroduce it in the newly democrat controlled senate.
If it really is only 200-300 kilometers down, maybe it can provide geothermic-based electricity, then we don't need to deal with solar power on the moon.
Disable alternative sensory inputs and place the animal in a strange environment with a reward goal that can be visually sensed. Observe multiple interations of blind, treated, and normal-visioned mice and decide if the result allow you to conclude the treated mice performed similarly better as the normal-visioned over the blind mice.
American high schools have big problems without having to worry about teaching kids two foriegn languages. Heck, we should atleast get geography as a nationally required core curriculum subject first.
...or finds the burial of a Homo neanderthalensis with a Homo sapien, a marriage certificate, and two or more offspring.
It be interesting to see what exactly is affect if the gene does make the brain larger. I doubt it'd mean higher intelligence, I lean more towards support something basic like using the extra brain tissue as insulation against the cold/blows to the head or maybe simply as a desirable trait.
"Hey babe, check out the size this head! They say these kinds of thing corellate to elsewhere..."
Reports indicate that it is infact - all of history, including present-day history. I'd go so far as to say the two are nearly mutually inclusive, depending on how you define war...
In other news today, the UN has praised Europe for its recent decline in population growth rates. While many regions have had near-balanced birth/death rates, the latest figures show a sharp increase in the death rate, putting most of Europe in a population decline. Our over-populated world thanks you!
If we can good at altering asteroid's paths, we could use near earth asteroids as ramming tools. We should ram a few into the same spot on Mars and get a nice deep crater. We get practice diverting asteroids and learn more about deeper martain soil.
What kind of bionic strength would gloves give? A bone crushing grip? You lift with your whole arm, not just your hands.
I am the submitter and I must apologise. I had actually submitted an article from 1up.com which said
"it's become apparent that 1080i is currently unsupported, at least by the machine's many launch games, as 1080i-only HDTV sets are forced to experience the visuals at 480p, rather than scaling to an HD resolution of 720p."
I had missed the IGN link in the text and thus missed the chance to get the correct information from the original story. I must be more careful in the future and fact-check as well as preview before I submit...
Whenever Godzilla and Mecha-Godzilla fight; it is Tokyo that suffers the most.
I agree, because I've seen store logos that were clearly ment to be seen from planes in Google Earth. Like the massive Target at lat 40.783780 lon -73.833376
By the way, does anyone know how big that Taco Bell logo was? You know, the giant one that Taco Bell said they'd give everyone in America a free taco if a piece of the Mir station hit it?
True, they do get liscencing fees (all the info you could ever want about that is here) But Sony is (according to that website) obligated by the same liscencing aggreements and must pay the same fees. So even if we ignore that the the Assoc. itself needs some amount of money from the fees to maintain itself, those fees are still split up among atleast the Board of Directors. Which is enough to warrent an assumption that Sony couldn't survive solely on a cut of the liscencing fees. The real money in Blu-Ray for Sony would come in the form of what essentially boils down to a rebate on its liscencing fees plus whatever they get from the actual media sale.
Ergo my initial conclusion that the PS3's success depends on the games, not the relativly few Sony Blu-Ray disks. I suppose I could have been a bit clearer why I discounted the other blu-ray disks towards Sony's success with the PS3 (as the presence of Blu-Ray disks and Sony's machine playing Blu-Rays does not necessitate a success for the PS3, only disks made by Sony can contribute any real measurable success to the PS3 as are the only disks that significantly feedback into the PS3 production loop.) In any case, the real, true success will come because of games, Blu-Ray is an augmentation but Sony has clearly said they intended the added functionality to lead into blu-ray (atleast they have said so significantly more so than vice versa.)
On the larger scale, yes, any disk sale benefits Sony and moves them towards success. But they don't affect the PS3's profitability because their impact is blunted by other available options and relativly small ability to contribute directly back to the PS3 cost. Its the same idea as saying Sony's blu-ray player would not have impacted the PS3 if it had come out on time or not.
In defense of the Sega Saturn, it did quite well in Japan. It was so lame in the US because Sega's President didn't send over alot of the games that made it popular in Japan because he didn't think they were the kind of games Americans liked. While it may not have been Worldwide successful, I certainly don't think its one of the top 10 lamest console ever; just one of the lamest of the truly widely known consoles.
Blue-Ray is not solely Sony's. Blue-Ray is the result of the Blu-Ray Disc Association, of which Sony is a member. This does not mean Sony gets a cut of whatever Blu-Ray disk sells. It means Sony takes part in developing, through the strategic alliance of the Blr-Ray Disc Assoc., the standards of what can be called blu-ray such that a blu-ray player plays it. Sony only profits from blu-ray media it produces (as in films from Sony Motion Pictures.) Of which there are only 23 I was able to find. Although there may be more Blu-ray movies, they do not benefit Sony (outside of intagables like having a reason for a Blu-ray player or solidifying it's chose format in the market.)
Also, as far as I've seen, your website says it has nearly 150 And according to this website of releases plus previous releases, as of Nov. 14 it's only up to 99. And again, most of those are not from Sony.
We might as well discuss this factual article that declares Nintendo is(are) the Democrats as Sony is the GOP
:: Factual : Ludicrous
Totally Non-biased : Hilarious
This 1up article reads like it was written by someone in need of adderall. It jumps from thought to thought, often talking almost exclusivly about the other console in the wrong space before declaring a winner seemingly completly against their own reasoning, only to end abruptly with no final overall comparison.
Even if Sony hopes Blue-Ray will become a big factor, there are 23 Sony Blue-Ray DVDs out and not alot of those titles are going to appeal to everyone (little man? Stealth? The list goes on,) games (and to a much lesser extent accessories) are going to play the big role in Sony's success with the PS3 (especially short term.)Numbers from EnterBrain show 88,400 consoles sold (100,000 is an shipment estimate, EnterBrain expects the missing 12,600 are simply ones that were unable to be produced, not unsold.) 62% were high end which falls below the expected 80/20 distribution of PS3 models which, as unlike Nintendo, Sony loses money on every PS3 machine, we can conclude is actually worse as the profit-negating feature of the PS3 is likely to lie with the Blue-ray drive (and possibly to some extend the Cell; it sure isn't helping) which was present in the same cost in the lower model. We can assume that the features left off from the low end machine do not present a significant enough cost to be off set by the $100 short of the low end model (atleast not to make up the loss elsewhere, if not even making up the $100 itself.) Worse yet, despite analysis that all would likly have sold anyways, the Japanese PS3 versions were actually cheaper than what the US will recieve, most probably creating all the larger hill for Sony to surmount in the quest for profit.
But the more important factor is the game sales. Top two games sales were Ridge Racer 7 and Gundum at 30,000 each. Togther, that's only 60,000 games sold! Not even 1 game per system sold (lousy ebayers?) Of course, we don't have difinitive numbers on what the other 3 games available at Japan's launch are (only that they didn't reach 30,000) but we can only guess they might have made up atleast 22,000 if that (Doubt Genji sold well; check out the reviews, critics delt massive damage to that Giant Crab turd of a game.) Still, even assuming a difference made up towards one game sold per system sold, it is not hard to believe that that ratio will not make up the difference of system production costs.
Though it sold out, we're still in for quite a rollercoaster ride as the Wii (a 'strong' competitor with a better quick returns setup) steps in and the production of both console start to kick in to high gear for the USA Mega-holidays Spend-O-Rifica period. Rumors and unverified reports put PS3 second salvos in the US stores ready by the 20th (launch +3 days) and Wii at about the same time (launch +1, though these are rumors) and we can only guess they're going to be out in their bests ready for Post-Turkey day Shopping Madness.
Considering numerous games on the PS3 list are non-exclusive and exclusives like Genji have often been review, criticied and praised by Japan-launch capable news orgs, US shoppers have a lot of choice and information on the games to choose. Even if the PS3 sells out in the US, the different environment games are presented in here in the US (PCs and Xbox 360s being bigger here for things like CoD 3) could greatly impact Sony's success (in terms of profit and market share.)
Nintendo and Microsoft didn't just toss them in a warehouse after all! Ok, but seriously, who would do this kind of thing without some sort of prompting? I mean really, this is just too far fetched not to buy into a conspiracy theory. Come on, I can't even find any information about this China-based Wicked Laser company. Toshiba? Is that you behind the curtain?
Really now, an independent Blue-Ray laser. For $2000. From China. Nothing suspicious about that!
I'm interested, how big is Japan in the big picture? First or Second? We all know (if even just by how the companies treat them) that Europe is third most important. Anywhere other than North America, Japan, or Europe is rarely even heard in the news. But is Japan the bigger battlefield than the US? If we look at the launch numbers, Sony and Nintendo are both putting more emphasis on the US. Sony's US Launch day is scheduled to have 400,000 PS3 units, about 4x the number of their Japanese launch. Nintendo is planning a US launch day of 1,000,000 Wii units. Meanwhile I can't even find Nintendo's Japan launch day units; they don't even release in Japan until December, after the November US launch. So, the companies seem to indicate that in the big picture, the US is the bigger prize. Launching two days apart, with more units (assumed for Wii Japan) will make a much more useful comparison than a 23-day apart Japan launch with relativly fewer units.
It may also be interesting to see how Sony's launch titles did, since they need games and accessories to pull up the difference. Some of the games present on Sony's Japan launch list also appear on the Wii's. Depending on quantities of these sold compared to the number of units sold in proportion to other games per unit sold may tell us if there are customers prepared to buy the Wii as well and plan on buying those games for the Wii instead. While it would have to be a large difference to overcome the large margin of error such a comparison welcomes, it may still provide some insite into the minds of the buyers and give us a rough idea how the big US launch will go for Sony or Nintendo.
I agree, and would go further and say that even if they were only aiming for a hardcore market, they'd be even more foolish. Hardcore gamers are important to any console, but if one ignores the mainstream market it'll fail just as fast. However, I don't think they're aiming at hardcore gamers, hardcore gamers aren't all about graphics and blood level, they're about real gameplay value; that's why I'm getting a Wii. Ultimatly, if the PS3 fails, it'll be because they were just plain greedy. They overextended themselves trying to capture both the HD format and the gaming market. Perhaps it'll become a nice object lesson for future generations.
As a side note, after re-reading my orginal post, it sounds whiny and fan-boyish. I was merely trying to make an observation about CNN and possibly what it means about public opinion. I'd like to make it clear now: I hate Sony, but I like to justify it through fair evidence =P
The article is not too bad, kind of simple, but not a bad sum of the situation. But check out the ineptitude of reporting in this CNN video report!
Terrible! They talks as though there is nothing else coming out, but what's worse is how they butcher Sony's Console details
They harp on $600 and don't even mention the $500 version
They state Sony says it's worth it because it plays DVDs and wirelessly connects to the internet (No mention of Blue-Ray, HD, or 1080i)
Although you can't see it in the video, the anchors on CNN went on about it further, ragging on the $600 price being something "They'd never pay for" even the weatherman joins in.
In short, CNN botched just about every position Sony has been trying to push about the PS3. CNN should talk with it's game/technology division more often. If this is the kind of knowledge the mainstreme consumer has about the PS3, it doesn't bode well...
Once, I saw a computer infected with Windows ME.
...that the reporter might be best servered with fava beans and a nice chianti, followed it's suggestion with a quick slirping-hiss sound.
"Let me see if I have this down right: With the progress of multi-core CPU's, especially looking at the AMD / ATI deal, PC's are moving towards a single 'super chip' that will do everything while phasing out the use of a truly separate graphics system. Meanwhile, supercomputers are moving towards using GPU's as the main workhorse. Doesn't that strike anybody else as a little odd?"
16789087
I picture this:
Before:
CPU makers: "Hardware's expensive, keep it simple."
GPU makers: "We can specialize the expensive hardware separatly!"
Now:
CPU makers: "Hardware's cheaper and cheaper, lets keep up our profits by making our more inclusive."
GPU makers: "We can specialize the cheap hardware in really really big number-crunch projects!"
btw, why isn't the reply button showing up? I'm too lazy to hand type the address.
Well, what exactly can we do to turn this kind of situation around? Whine to congress to resurrect the Broadband America Bill? I don't see that happening. "Teach them telecoms a lesson by not buying it?" It'll never happen, we don't have that kind of organization and too many groups depend on what the system does provide. So what, pray tell, do we do? I've got no idea, but plenty of complaints. How about some proactive solutions?
As the democrats have secured both the house and the senate, it'll be interesting to see what happens the the house Net Neutrality bill famously blocked by Senator Ted "Tubes" Stevens. My representative's co-sponsorship of that bill cinched his otherwise shaky (with me) run for senator. Now that he is a senator, I can only hope he can either get it out of committee hell or help reintroduce it in the newly democrat controlled senate.
If it really is only 200-300 kilometers down, maybe it can provide geothermic-based electricity, then we don't need to deal with solar power on the moon.
Disable alternative sensory inputs and place the animal in a strange environment with a reward goal that can be visually sensed. Observe multiple interations of blind, treated, and normal-visioned mice and decide if the result allow you to conclude the treated mice performed similarly better as the normal-visioned over the blind mice.
American high schools have big problems without having to worry about teaching kids two foriegn languages. Heck, we should atleast get geography as a nationally required core curriculum subject first.
...or finds the burial of a Homo neanderthalensis with a Homo sapien, a marriage certificate, and two or more offspring.
It be interesting to see what exactly is affect if the gene does make the brain larger. I doubt it'd mean higher intelligence, I lean more towards support something basic like using the extra brain tissue as insulation against the cold/blows to the head or maybe simply as a desirable trait.
"Hey babe, check out the size this head! They say these kinds of thing corellate to elsewhere..."
Reports indicate that it is infact - all of history, including present-day history. I'd go so far as to say the two are nearly mutually inclusive, depending on how you define war...