I think "retained" in this case refers to jobs that one would have lost without the money. So yes, you could have zero "new" jobs, but saving the jobs of a quarter million people has a non-trivial benefit for the economy as a whole.
I agree that students by necessity have to sacrifice some rights in order to be educated. I just feel that although they surrender those rights when they enter the school, they must regain them when they leave.
I also don't agree that what she did was right; in fact, I think the principal could have successfully sued her for libel (and rightfully so).
[quote]He could have sued, but then she would have been back at school talking to her friends,causing more trouble and the situation would have got worse until after the case was heard.[/quote]
See, that's my point though. There's no evidence that she was being disruptive in school. I don't object to the fact that she got some kind of punishment, but I think the school overstepped its bounds in issuing the punishment.
Don't you think there's an issue of jurisdiction?
What if two students get in a fistfight outside of school?
To make things even more dicey: what if a school threw a student off of a sports team for writing a very well-researched but impassioned piece in support of marijuana legalization?
I'm just worried about the EXPANSION of the scope of the rights that students have to surrender to participate in a school setting.
All students are in need of some learning and adjustment before they can exist within society. That's why they're students...that's why students can get into fistfights without getting charged with assault and battery.
It's the job of the school staff to be exemplars and instructors of how to live within society. That's why they're much more vulnerable to allegations of sexual (and other) misconduct.
With all due respect, I don't really think your argument makes much sense. It's kind of like arguing that there's a double-standard...students can graduate without learning calculus, but a math teacher might be fired for the same.
So what you're saying is....students are frustrated because people don't listen to them....so let's hit them?
I agree with your first point, that we ought to start treating an 18-year-old more like an adult (and having corresponding expectations), but I think spanking them runs counter to that.
Can someone please explain to me why the school ought to have jurisdiction over activities that take place outside of school grounds, off school hours? I just cannot for the life of me understand the basis.
The school is there to provide necessary civil services, just like the fire department or infrastructure maintenance.
If my son were to slander the fire chief or the head of the department of transportation, it would be considered an abuse of power for them refuse to let my house burn down or to stop repairing the road leading to my house. Of course, if I were to threaten them with a knife while they were in the process of doing either of those things, I think they would be allowed to *stop* helping me.
If anything, there's been a strong move in this country *away* from allowing schools to punish students (the loss of their right to issue corporal punishment, for example).
This, to me, seems just like an extension of the specious assertion that schools have the right to drug-test students or prohibit them from participating in sports if they're guilty of alcohol-related offenses.
Furthermore, I very much doubt that the school would have expelled the student if they had committed similar libel against an individual not affiliated with the school.
I don't see any reason for circumventing the channels designed for dealing with libel other than the fact that they can, and it seems like a clear-cut abuse of power to exact personal revenge.
Firefox purports to be open-source, but as far as I can see, this entire "trademark" is just a backdoor way to exert traditional copyright controls. The Mozilla Foundation (or whatever they're calling it these days) should not be wasting time trying to restrict users' use of the software, except insofar as that user's actions deny to others the freedoms that they received. That's the point of open-source.
All of this fussing over trademarks is just pointless infighting. Mozilla does not enjoy a captive audience like Microsoft. If they make a good product, people will use it; if not, their users are more than capable of switching to Chrome in large numbers, very quickly.
Any gap in performance versus immediate competitors will do far more damage to Mozilla's "brand name" than a few non-blessed builds floating around out there with the Firefox name.
Anyone know the name of the song in the trailer? I'm almost positive it's by the pumpkins, but I've never heard the song before (and I have a lot of pumpkins:) ).
approach to fighting spam. Your idea will not work. Here is why it won't work. (One or more of the following may apply to your particular idea, and it may have other flaws which used to vary from state to state before a bad federal law was passed.)
( ) Spammers can easily use it to harvest email addresses ( ) Mailing lists and other legitimate email uses would be affected (X) No one will be able to find the guy or collect the money ( ) It is defenseless against brute force attacks ( ) It will stop spam for two weeks and then we'll be stuck with it ( ) Users of email will not put up with it ( ) Microsoft will not put up with it (X) The police will not put up with it ( ) Requires too much cooperation from spammers ( ) Requires immediate total cooperation from everybody at once ( ) Many email users cannot afford to lose business or alienate potential employers ( ) Spammers don't care about invalid addresses in their lists ( ) Anyone could anonymously destroy anyone else's career or business
Specifically, your plan fails to account for
(X) Laws expressly prohibiting it ( ) Lack of centrally controlling authority for email ( ) Open relays in foreign countries ( ) Ease of searching tiny alphanumeric address space of all email addresses ( ) Asshats ( ) Jurisdictional problems ( ) Unpopularity of weird new taxes ( ) Public reluctance to accept weird new forms of money ( ) Huge existing software investment in SMTP ( ) Susceptibility of protocols other than SMTP to attack ( ) Willingness of users to install OS patches received by email ( ) Armies of worm riddled broadband-connected Windows boxes ( ) Eternal arms race involved in all filtering approaches (X) Extreme profitability of spam ( ) Joe jobs and/or identity theft ( ) Technically illiterate politicians ( ) Extreme stupidity on the part of people who do business with spammers ( ) Dishonesty on the part of spammers themselves ( ) Bandwidth costs that are unaffected by client filtering ( ) Outlook
and the following philosophical objections may also apply:
( ) Ideas similar to yours are easy to come up with, yet none have ever been shown practical ( ) Any scheme based on opt-out is unacceptable ( ) SMTP headers should not be the subject of legislation ( ) Blacklists suck ( ) Whitelists suck ( ) We should be able to talk about Viagra without being censored ( ) Countermeasures should not involve wire fraud or credit card fraud ( ) Countermeasures should not involve sabotage of public networks ( ) Countermeasures must work if phased in gradually ( ) Sending email should be free ( ) Why should we have to trust you and your servers? ( ) Incompatiblity with open source or open source licenses ( ) Feel-good measures do nothing to solve the problem ( ) Temporary/one-time email addresses are cumbersome ( ) I don't want the government reading my email (X) Killing them that way is not slow and painful enough
Furthermore, this is what I think about you:
(X) Sorry dude, but I don't think it would work. ( ) This is a stupid idea, and you're a stupid person for suggesting it. ( ) Nice try, assh0le! I'm going to find out where you live and burn your house down!
I run linux on my desktop, and I spend a decent amount of time making charts, editing documents, and so forth. Unless it's an enormous hassle, I'd always rather boot into Windows to get my office work done, honestly because of three major issues:
1) Charts - 99% of the time when I'm using a spreadsheet, it's just to make a quick graph of some data. The MS office charting features are really simple to adjust after the fact, while the OOo one is like pulling teeth. 2) Performance - OOo feels less responsive than I'd like, and it takes a long-ass time to load. (Blame java?:) ) 3) Aesthetics - OOo still looks like it's stuck in the mid 90's. MS Office has nicer fonts by default.
Anyways, I'm not trying to flame or criticize. I'm just honestly presenting the reasons why I don't like OOo in the hopes of fostering some good discussion.
I don't agree. Microsoft IS trying to make Windows the best FOSS platform.
That's inaccurate. I think you meant to say "the best platform for FOSS." Your statement implies that windows would somehow become FOSS, hence the confused / hostile replies to your post.
This is ZDNet we're talking about here. When he says "searching the darker corners of the Internet" he's probably talking about his cluttered address book, looking for the phone number of his friend who knows how to hack vista.
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You're telling us all that you have no interest in people talking about their lack of interest?
Do you..ah...see the problem there?
I think "retained" in this case refers to jobs that one would have lost without the money. So yes, you could have zero "new" jobs, but saving the jobs of a quarter million people has a non-trivial benefit for the economy as a whole.
"The more home users who are online, using Macs and Firefox and Safari, the more those shares go up,"
Let me get this straight...if more people use a browser, then there are more people using that browser? Brilliant!
Get out of my teeth!
Throw a clean install on your laptop, and put your critical data on a server so you can just log in and download it when you arrive.
When you're about to fly back, re-upload your data and wipe the drive.
You could also just mail encrypted DVDs with substantial insurance.
I agree that students by necessity have to sacrifice some rights in order to be educated. I just feel that although they surrender those rights when they enter the school, they must regain them when they leave.
I also don't agree that what she did was right; in fact, I think the principal could have successfully sued her for libel (and rightfully so).
[quote]He could have sued, but then she would have been back at school talking to her friends,causing more trouble and the situation would have got worse until after the case was heard.[/quote]
See, that's my point though. There's no evidence that she was being disruptive in school. I don't object to the fact that she got some kind of punishment, but I think the school overstepped its bounds in issuing the punishment.
Don't you think there's an issue of jurisdiction?
What if two students get in a fistfight outside of school?
To make things even more dicey: what if a school threw a student off of a sports team for writing a very well-researched but impassioned piece in support of marijuana legalization?
I'm just worried about the EXPANSION of the scope of the rights that students have to surrender to participate in a school setting.
What if a student
Need a hug? ;)
If you can tone down the ad hominems, I'd actually be interested to hear your reasoning in thinking the way you do!
All students are in need of some learning and adjustment before they can exist within society. That's why they're students...that's why students can get into fistfights without getting charged with assault and battery.
It's the job of the school staff to be exemplars and instructors of how to live within society. That's why they're much more vulnerable to allegations of sexual (and other) misconduct.
With all due respect, I don't really think your argument makes much sense. It's kind of like arguing that there's a double-standard...students can graduate without learning calculus, but a math teacher might be fired for the same.
So what you're saying is....students are frustrated because people don't listen to them....so let's hit them?
I agree with your first point, that we ought to start treating an 18-year-old more like an adult (and having corresponding expectations), but I think spanking them runs counter to that.
Can someone please explain to me why the school ought to have jurisdiction over activities that take place outside of school grounds, off school hours? I just cannot for the life of me understand the basis.
The school is there to provide necessary civil services, just like the fire department or infrastructure maintenance.
If my son were to slander the fire chief or the head of the department of transportation, it would be considered an abuse of power for them refuse to let my house burn down or to stop repairing the road leading to my house. Of course, if I were to threaten them with a knife while they were in the process of doing either of those things, I think they would be allowed to *stop* helping me.
If anything, there's been a strong move in this country *away* from allowing schools to punish students (the loss of their right to issue corporal punishment, for example).
This, to me, seems just like an extension of the specious assertion that schools have the right to drug-test students or prohibit them from participating in sports if they're guilty of alcohol-related offenses.
Furthermore, I very much doubt that the school would have expelled the student if they had committed similar libel against an individual not affiliated with the school.
I don't see any reason for circumventing the channels designed for dealing with libel other than the fact that they can, and it seems like a clear-cut abuse of power to exact personal revenge.
He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my
contempt.
Firefox purports to be open-source, but as far as I can see, this entire "trademark" is just a backdoor way to exert traditional copyright controls. The Mozilla Foundation (or whatever they're calling it these days) should not be wasting time trying to restrict users' use of the software, except insofar as that user's actions deny to others the freedoms that they received. That's the point of open-source.
All of this fussing over trademarks is just pointless infighting. Mozilla does not enjoy a captive audience like Microsoft. If they make a good product, people will use it; if not, their users are more than capable of switching to Chrome in large numbers, very quickly.
Any gap in performance versus immediate competitors will do far more damage to Mozilla's "brand name" than a few non-blessed builds floating around out there with the Firefox name.
They were probably thinking that they'd make the front page of Slashdot every time they ran one of these ads, since we enjoy WTFing over them so much.
From reading the article, it seems clear that he has caused intentional harm to these people.
I think a good attorney should be able to get some money out of him, especially if he's not investing in a good defense attorney.
Anyone know the name of the song in the trailer? I'm almost positive it's by the pumpkins, but I've never heard the song before (and I have a lot of pumpkins :) ).
I just read through the list of "20 Internet Acronyms All Parents Should Know".....only two I've actually seen in actual use.
They should really l2internetslang because they got wtfpwnt like a bunch of n00bs :)
Why? Because the number of character pairings that need to be balanced increase exponentially with every addition.
Plastics.
..that this post will be such a significant achievement in parody that it will be moderated +5 insightful on Slashdot.
Your post advocates a
( ) technical ( ) legislative ( ) market-based (X) vigilante
approach to fighting spam. Your idea will not work. Here is why it won't work. (One or more of the following may apply to your particular idea, and it may have other flaws which used to vary from state to state before a bad federal law was passed.)
( ) Spammers can easily use it to harvest email addresses
( ) Mailing lists and other legitimate email uses would be affected
(X) No one will be able to find the guy or collect the money
( ) It is defenseless against brute force attacks
( ) It will stop spam for two weeks and then we'll be stuck with it
( ) Users of email will not put up with it
( ) Microsoft will not put up with it
(X) The police will not put up with it
( ) Requires too much cooperation from spammers
( ) Requires immediate total cooperation from everybody at once
( ) Many email users cannot afford to lose business or alienate potential employers
( ) Spammers don't care about invalid addresses in their lists
( ) Anyone could anonymously destroy anyone else's career or business
Specifically, your plan fails to account for
(X) Laws expressly prohibiting it
( ) Lack of centrally controlling authority for email
( ) Open relays in foreign countries
( ) Ease of searching tiny alphanumeric address space of all email addresses
( ) Asshats
( ) Jurisdictional problems
( ) Unpopularity of weird new taxes
( ) Public reluctance to accept weird new forms of money
( ) Huge existing software investment in SMTP
( ) Susceptibility of protocols other than SMTP to attack
( ) Willingness of users to install OS patches received by email
( ) Armies of worm riddled broadband-connected Windows boxes
( ) Eternal arms race involved in all filtering approaches
(X) Extreme profitability of spam
( ) Joe jobs and/or identity theft
( ) Technically illiterate politicians
( ) Extreme stupidity on the part of people who do business with spammers
( ) Dishonesty on the part of spammers themselves
( ) Bandwidth costs that are unaffected by client filtering
( ) Outlook
and the following philosophical objections may also apply:
( ) Ideas similar to yours are easy to come up with, yet none have ever
been shown practical
( ) Any scheme based on opt-out is unacceptable
( ) SMTP headers should not be the subject of legislation
( ) Blacklists suck
( ) Whitelists suck
( ) We should be able to talk about Viagra without being censored
( ) Countermeasures should not involve wire fraud or credit card fraud
( ) Countermeasures should not involve sabotage of public networks
( ) Countermeasures must work if phased in gradually
( ) Sending email should be free
( ) Why should we have to trust you and your servers?
( ) Incompatiblity with open source or open source licenses
( ) Feel-good measures do nothing to solve the problem
( ) Temporary/one-time email addresses are cumbersome
( ) I don't want the government reading my email
(X) Killing them that way is not slow and painful enough
Furthermore, this is what I think about you:
(X) Sorry dude, but I don't think it would work.
( ) This is a stupid idea, and you're a stupid person for suggesting it.
( ) Nice try, assh0le! I'm going to find out where you live and burn your
house down!
Dear Comcast,
Blow it out your ass.
Love,
America
I run linux on my desktop, and I spend a decent amount of time making charts, editing documents, and so forth. Unless it's an enormous hassle, I'd always rather boot into Windows to get my office work done, honestly because of three major issues:
:) )
1) Charts - 99% of the time when I'm using a spreadsheet, it's just to make a quick graph of some data. The MS office charting features are really simple to adjust after the fact, while the OOo one is like pulling teeth.
2) Performance - OOo feels less responsive than I'd like, and it takes a long-ass time to load. (Blame java?
3) Aesthetics - OOo still looks like it's stuck in the mid 90's. MS Office has nicer fonts by default.
Anyways, I'm not trying to flame or criticize. I'm just honestly presenting the reasons why I don't like OOo in the hopes of fostering some good discussion.
..she omits one important case. We as a country have discovered that it is possible to rule innocent men, if they are sufficiently indebted.
That's inaccurate. I think you meant to say "the best platform for FOSS." Your statement implies that windows would somehow become FOSS, hence the confused / hostile replies to your post.
This is ZDNet we're talking about here. When he says "searching the darker corners of the Internet" he's probably talking about his cluttered address book, looking for the phone number of his friend who knows how to hack vista.