There are two representatives that voted agaist the bill from my home state (Utah), one is my representative. I am sure they justify their votes by saying they are protecting jobs. But they also allow using prison inmates to make telemarketing calls. To me it says, telemarketing firm's revenues are more important than jobs for Utahns. A politician's public statement is not always the reason they vote for or against a bill.
You don't have a mortgage do you? I get 1-2 calls everyday just to refinance my mortgage. That is on top of the "free" vacations, auto glass repair and other calls I get.
I agree with all of the above and would like to add one more: spam doesn't pull you from what you are doing to adress it. When the phone rings, I answer it. When I get e-mail, I don't know until I check for it. Legislating against something as intrusive, with 50 million people backing them, as telemarketing is a slam-dunk for politicians. Spam legislation will take more finesse.
Then along comes a corporate hacker and changes the label. Can you imagine hacking the nutrition information or changing to a generic label "Cola" (or even "Piss In A Can")?
You are making a distinction between free content and paid content. That is really irrelevant. The article makes no distinction. It may be that high end users that are being asked to cut back are paying for their media content. Further, the poster you are replying to is making a valid point that DSL/ Cable services are sold with enticement to use bandwidth intensive media (free or paid, they make no distinction either.) Now they are capping usage or requesting users to cut back. That smells of a bait and switch to me. While I agree that the "all things free" mindset needs to change, what are ISP going to do when people pay for their content?
Not only that, but a well known Mormon has made the point. Maybe Orin Hatch (also a Mormon) will take some time to listen. Senators do make a difference.
"But while the former directly deprives the store of an actual scarce good (the physical CD), the latter does not (i.e. the record company still "owns" the music and can make all the copies they like)."
Further, these people are being sued for being willing to share. Even if nobody has ever downloaded a single file from them they can be sued. So the law makes it possible for a corporation to sue an individual for making it possible for someone else to infringe on a copyright. Could a store hold me responsible if I opened the door to a shoplifter? How about if I didn't know the person was going to shoplift? Every customer in astore is a potential shoplifter, how do I know which one is actually stealing.
You may be right about the media fueling the perception. The way that cold fusion was announced made the media look bad. "Look folks, these scientist just created cheap energy. Uh, well, um,...nevemind." The media looked almost more foolish than Pons and Fleischmann did. The media has a reason to ridicule cold fusion. (Not that I believe in conspiracies or anything.)
Then we need a tool to tell when there is internet congestion so that we can access the webcams to tell if there is traffic congestion. Unfortunately, most people will also be accessing the webcams at the same time (eg.just before rush hour.)
Exactly my thoughts. Something like this sounds like it will reinforce bad user habits. Maybe we need software to teach new users effecient and effective ways to use their computers.
Is this really just a North American tradition? The wedding part maybe, but winning a womens heart with diamonds is not exclusive to NA. The diamond trade is international. Being from the US, I find spending thousands of dollars (at a time in life when you can least afford it) on a rock is foolish. But Europeans(and increasingly more Asians) buy diamonds as well, though maybe not as a wedding tradition. I think I feel your smugness was a bit hypocritical. De Beers, incidently, is not a N American company. I am not trying to be a troll (though maybe I just took the bait), but how insightful is this comment when it disingenously points fingers at a single country (OK technically two countries, though there are three countries in N America), when daimonds are sold around the world.
Yes, and cd quality music is too perfect and people won't listen to it. Vinyl records are a perfect medium for music and will always be around. (I guess you had to be there in 1984.)
Agreed. I keep hearing the rationale that virus writers keep OS writers honest by pointing out exploits and that OS writers would be reluctant to correct. Microsoft released the patch for the blaster worm, yet the virus writer still allowed the virus to be released in the wild. Obviously not everyone with windows patched their systems, but, seeing how not every windows box was infected, and given time more people would have been protected, the solution was working. With or without the virus the correction was released and being applied.
The public only wants singles because there are few artists out there capable of creating an entire albums-worth of good music. The single has its place, and record companies have dropped the ball in offering singles. But if Brittney made an entire album of good songs, people would want the album, not just the singles.
If people in China buy bootleg CDs, then it is lost sales. Someone bought it, but from another source. The problem the RIAA has is when they try to put a dollar amount on that sale. If it is sold for $4US, then the only thing known for certain is they lost $4US in sales. It is fudgeing (to say the least) to say they lost an $18US sale. The RIAA has a credibility gap with the public when they site lost sales numbers because much of the public knows the numbers are inflated.
I agree to a point, but when record companies complain because people don't "search a little" it's rediculous. The record companies push a few artists to keep costs down. The fewer albums they have to produce, the less money spent on production, radio play and marketing - their biggest expenses. An ideal situation is to have a handful of artists and have everyone buy 3-4 copies of their CDs. That is why DRM would be such a windfall for them - you would buy a seperate copy for the car, the computer and the home entertainment center to avoid the inconvenience of a single disc or song file.
I think many of the comments hit the target by calling the scheme a means of information gathering. If the FBI/NSA/CIA starts questioning people that bet correctly on the futures, wouldn't that actually be a deterent to betting? If you have inside information you wouldn't want the Government to know that. So would the information gathered be less than reliable? Doesn't the fact that the Government is obvious in its intent to gather innformation from the trades make the information useless?
I am impressed with the number of female sounding names on this list. If these really are women then it puts a new face on the perception of who file traders are. It is no longer pimply faced 16 year old boys showing anti-social behaviour. I am interested if the public will be outraged when the DMCA is used against our mothers and daughters. (I know this sounds sexist, but lets face it, society views men and women differently.)
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There are two representatives that voted agaist the bill from my home state (Utah), one is my representative. I am sure they justify their votes by saying they are protecting jobs. But they also allow using prison inmates to make telemarketing calls. To me it says, telemarketing firm's revenues are more important than jobs for Utahns. A politician's public statement is not always the reason they vote for or against a bill.
I agree with all of the above and would like to add one more: spam doesn't pull you from what you are doing to adress it. When the phone rings, I answer it. When I get e-mail, I don't know until I check for it. Legislating against something as intrusive, with 50 million people backing them, as telemarketing is a slam-dunk for politicians. Spam legislation will take more finesse.
Oh great, now the liked sites are experiencing a DDOS due to the slashdot effect.
You are making a distinction between free content and paid content. That is really irrelevant. The article makes no distinction. It may be that high end users that are being asked to cut back are paying for their media content. Further, the poster you are replying to is making a valid point that DSL/ Cable services are sold with enticement to use bandwidth intensive media (free or paid, they make no distinction either.) Now they are capping usage or requesting users to cut back. That smells of a bait and switch to me. While I agree that the "all things free" mindset needs to change, what are ISP going to do when people pay for their content?
Not only that, but a well known Mormon has made the point. Maybe Orin Hatch (also a Mormon) will take some time to listen. Senators do make a difference.
Well, one mans spyware is another mans performance enhancement software. Maybe its a matter of semantics.
"But while the former directly deprives the store of an actual scarce good (the physical CD), the latter does not (i.e. the record company still "owns" the music and can make all the copies they like)." Further, these people are being sued for being willing to share. Even if nobody has ever downloaded a single file from them they can be sued. So the law makes it possible for a corporation to sue an individual for making it possible for someone else to infringe on a copyright. Could a store hold me responsible if I opened the door to a shoplifter? How about if I didn't know the person was going to shoplift? Every customer in astore is a potential shoplifter, how do I know which one is actually stealing.
Oh great another unit of measurement. I already have a hard time converting US Standard to metric, much less elephants, LOCs, and VWs. Now this.
You may be right about the media fueling the perception. The way that cold fusion was announced made the media look bad. "Look folks, these scientist just created cheap energy. Uh, well, um, ...nevemind." The media looked almost more foolish than Pons and Fleischmann did. The media has a reason to ridicule cold fusion. (Not that I believe in conspiracies or anything.)
Then we need a tool to tell when there is internet congestion so that we can access the webcams to tell if there is traffic congestion. Unfortunately, most people will also be accessing the webcams at the same time (eg.just before rush hour.)
I got to that dell screen too. I walked away from my computer, when I came back, my cat had agreed to the EULA. Dumb cat!
Exactly my thoughts. Something like this sounds like it will reinforce bad user habits. Maybe we need software to teach new users effecient and effective ways to use their computers.
Is this really just a North American tradition? The wedding part maybe, but winning a womens heart with diamonds is not exclusive to NA. The diamond trade is international. Being from the US, I find spending thousands of dollars (at a time in life when you can least afford it) on a rock is foolish. But Europeans(and increasingly more Asians) buy diamonds as well, though maybe not as a wedding tradition. I think I feel your smugness was a bit hypocritical. De Beers, incidently, is not a N American company. I am not trying to be a troll (though maybe I just took the bait), but how insightful is this comment when it disingenously points fingers at a single country (OK technically two countries, though there are three countries in N America), when daimonds are sold around the world.
Yes, and cd quality music is too perfect and people won't listen to it. Vinyl records are a perfect medium for music and will always be around. (I guess you had to be there in 1984.)
Agreed. I keep hearing the rationale that virus writers keep OS writers honest by pointing out exploits and that OS writers would be reluctant to correct. Microsoft released the patch for the blaster worm, yet the virus writer still allowed the virus to be released in the wild. Obviously not everyone with windows patched their systems, but, seeing how not every windows box was infected, and given time more people would have been protected, the solution was working. With or without the virus the correction was released and being applied.
But medical vaccines or treatments are not given against the patients will. I don't know that the end justifies the means
And that knocking on your front door would be whom? I hope the weather at gitmo is pleasant.
The public only wants singles because there are few artists out there capable of creating an entire albums-worth of good music. The single has its place, and record companies have dropped the ball in offering singles. But if Brittney made an entire album of good songs, people would want the album, not just the singles.
If people in China buy bootleg CDs, then it is lost sales. Someone bought it, but from another source. The problem the RIAA has is when they try to put a dollar amount on that sale. If it is sold for $4US, then the only thing known for certain is they lost $4US in sales. It is fudgeing (to say the least) to say they lost an $18US sale. The RIAA has a credibility gap with the public when they site lost sales numbers because much of the public knows the numbers are inflated.
I agree to a point, but when record companies complain because people don't "search a little" it's rediculous. The record companies push a few artists to keep costs down. The fewer albums they have to produce, the less money spent on production, radio play and marketing - their biggest expenses. An ideal situation is to have a handful of artists and have everyone buy 3-4 copies of their CDs. That is why DRM would be such a windfall for them - you would buy a seperate copy for the car, the computer and the home entertainment center to avoid the inconvenience of a single disc or song file.
Ah yes, goatse in the year 3000. Oh wait...
I think many of the comments hit the target by calling the scheme a means of information gathering. If the FBI/NSA/CIA starts questioning people that bet correctly on the futures, wouldn't that actually be a deterent to betting? If you have inside information you wouldn't want the Government to know that. So would the information gathered be less than reliable? Doesn't the fact that the Government is obvious in its intent to gather innformation from the trades make the information useless?
I am impressed with the number of female sounding names on this list. If these really are women then it puts a new face on the perception of who file traders are. It is no longer pimply faced 16 year old boys showing anti-social behaviour. I am interested if the public will be outraged when the DMCA is used against our mothers and daughters. (I know this sounds sexist, but lets face it, society views men and women differently.)