Of course, what no media even talks about, is that Iran would have had *one*, and only one use for ->having- (not using) a nuke: MAD.
1. Iran would never nuke Jerusalem, which is holy to all Muslims, as well as Jews and Christians.
Would Westboro Badtaste Church want to nuke Jerusalem, if they allowed gays to worship
at the Wailing Wall? 2. The US state of New Jersey is bigger than Israel. At one point, Israel is 17 mi wide (go look it up).
Dropping a nuke *anywhere* in Israel means that Jerusalem would get fallout, at the least. 3. Dripping a nuke in Israel would also hit the Palestinians, who the Iranians consider friends. 4. Considering the jet stream, guess where the fallout would continue to (hint: a country ruled
by an Ayatollah). 5. Notice that there's a small border area with Israel, that's called Iraq, Syria, and Jordan. Sort of
keeps armies from coming through to invade Israel.
Therefore, MAD with Israel would have been the only reason. So, those who don't like the idea, and think we should force regime change in Iran (I mean, it worked *so* well in Iraq), I'd expect each and every one of you to line up to enlist in the US Army, as infantry, to be ground troops for the invasion and conquest of Iran.
I drive one day out of ten to work. But overwhelmingly, Americans are *stupid*.
Datum: I used to live in Chicago, in a far north neighborhood. I'd take the commuter rail into downtown. The last few miles, it runs along/in the middle of the expressway. At least four days out of five, if not 9 out of 10, we'd be cruising down at about 55mph, and the traffic on the freeway would be either stop and go, or almost standing still (except when it was standing still). Oh, and a lot near where I worked advertised an "early bird special", in by 07:00, "only" $22/day.
But they're driving their cars, usually with only one person in them, for "convenience".....
These days, taking a bus and the Metro adds perhaps 10 min to my commute.
There was an announcement by RH in response to this, noting that the vulnerabilities were included in a recent release by openSSL, and that they had not gone into RHEL updates, so RHEL is not vulnerable, nor are it's children, like CentOS.
Excerpt: Too much of what has been reported in the U.S. media in these last, fraught weeks has echoed fulminations of the creditors that distort reality. Syriza has been painted as a party of the extreme left, with Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras’s government depicted as irresponsible and irreverent. This scorn comes from troika functionaries committed to enforcing utterly ruinous policies and whose behavior towards a democratically elected government has been insulting in the extreme. --- end excerpt ---
The Middle Ages nobility: Read? Why would I learn that - I have clerks for that. The only proper thing for someone noble is to hunt and fight.
Mid-20th century: managers and execs don't touch a keyboard, that's what the all-woman secretarial pool is for.
Now: learning to actually do work and make things? That's beneath us, we just buy people to do that, they don't do anything useful (i.e., make money for me), it all comes from my Vision!
As Sen. Sanders say, gun laws for rural New Hampshire, where they often hunt for food, *must* be very different from Chicago or LA, where the hunting is for members of some opposition social group of *people*.
Oh, and then there's all the cowards who are TERRIFIED of anyone not just like them, and needs GUNS to protect themselves....
mark, who lived in inner cities half his life, and has never felt the need for one,
and who's only known a few people with one
I wouldn't want to try one. For one, standing still for long hours isn't that good for you, either. For another, that's a *great* idea, now management can make your working/living space even smaller (Dilbert's old Velcro on your back, and hang you on the wall coming, soon).
Then there's those of us with other issues, like my arthritis.
I'm waiting for the introduction of not only treadmills under the desk, but have them generate electricity, so you produce ROI doubly.....
And ergonomics? I sit with my keyboard in my lap, several feet from my monitors. The way my cube's aligned, I can't really put my feet on the desk, but that meets all those ergonomic criteria, y'know, with wrists supported, monitors straight ahead....
In '58, the famous essayist CP Snow published an essay entitled, "On the Two Cultures". In it, he was talking about the cultures of the sciences vs. the liberal arts. He noted, for example, that he knew plenty of scientists who could quote Shakespeare chapter and verse, but not one liberal arts person who even knew the simplified three laws of thermodynamics.
It's gotten much worse, and spread, thanks to the GOP's explicit building a reliable base of yellow dog Republicans out of the extreme right, the conspiracyists, the group that wants their RIGHTS (but aren't interested in their responsibilities) andthe funnymentalists who think the world's only 6000 years old. Then the media whose owners want that legal and tax and spending agenda treat them as "equally valid", and dumb down the science in school, and this is what you get: the party adherents whose mind is made up, don't confuse them with facts.
First of all, Iran COULD NOT USE the bomb if it had one.
Why? 1. They can't bomb Jerusalem, which is as holy to them as to jews and Christians. Their own
people would slaughter them. AND they'd kill most of the Palestinians in the Occupied
Territories of the West Bank. 2. Israel is smaller than the US state of New Jersey. At one point, I believe it's a total
of ->17mi- wide. What this means is using the bomb *anywhere* in Israel means
fallout on Jerusalem. 3. Following 2, it *also* means fallout on the Palestinians. 4. Oh, yes - the winds would mean that fallout would COME BACK TO IRAN.
Therefore, the ONE and ONLY purpose that Iran would want the bomb is MAD with Israel (who has a bunch of bombs, and would cheerfully use it on Iran, if they didn't think there'd be no Israel left afterwards.
Oh, yes, and with all the climate-change deniers here, *no* *one* could imagine that maybe Iran's worried about when their oil fields are played out, and planning to do things with the money while they have it to prepare for the future, no, no, that's *way* more than next quarter....
I see on wikpedia that the cost of an F-35a is $115M USD. Cancel the production of two of those pointless, massively overpriced and underperforming POS, and you've got a more than $50M to spare....
In general, yes, we can. If we see it passing, and compute the orbit to be next time or so around the sun, there's a lot we can do. If we see it enough time in advance, NO, BRUCE WILLIS IS AN IDIOT. You want to hit it so that it *doesn't* break up, but nudge it faster or slower in its orbit, and it misses by a lot (and I'm considering beyond the moon's orbit plenty).
If, on the other hand, you're in the US, and think the Invisible Hand of the Market (tm) will create a company with zero possibility of return, other than perhaps one shot to try to knock one out of collision course, you might as well be figuring on the FSM moving it.
Now just one minute: us superannuated hippies understand global warming being human-caused. It's the antihippie, fascist Christian/petrochemical industry folks who are paying for it to be denied....
As another commenter put it, trading one currency they can't control with another? And somebody decides to use some large clusters, or large cloud, to generate money and devalue it, or another what-was-it that just collapsed, with a hundred million or so Bitcoin money *missing"?
Fiat money that is *completely* under the control of the elected government seems to work for most nations.
mark "oh, and how many fiat USD is that Bitcoin worth?"
That's absurd, that people "aren't bothered by ads". They take bathroom breaks, they get food or drinks, but... the top poster of this thread is absolutely correct. As someone older than you, let me tell you that in the sixties and seventies, the FCC-mandated limit was, I believe, 6 minutes an hour, and that *included* station breaks.
Then came cable, and the biggest thing they promised you - ALL of them - was "no more commercials, ever".
When we started taping in the nineties, it was about 18 min of commercials per hour on cable. The last time we regularly taped, maybe 10 years or so ago, it was ->22 minutes of commercials- per hour.
So tv is weaning itself from commercials? They'd *have* to, because a "one hour show" that was 50% commercials will have the number of viewers approaching zero as a limit.
Background checks. SKILLS CHECKS - isn't that what the hiring manager is supposed to ascertain via the a) resume, b) phone interview, c) personal interview?
This, actually, points directly to where the problem is: HR, who DO NOT KNOW what they company does or what they're hiring someone to do, AND DON'T CARE TO LEARN. To paraphrase the old line from SN, they're ignorant sluts, Jane".
Here's another point: it takes 35 days (is that business days, or calendar?). Then, in a lot of cases, they'll be there 3 years (oh, unless they're contractors, and so many big companies, like AT&T, say two years), and they're out the door, let go, or off to a new job.
Social media? Is that like, asking for answers or help on Facebook, with a CMU logo?
And for the folks who think hiring teachers costs too much... try looking at all the articles about the war on tenure, and how most course (that is, > 65%) are taught by "adjuncts", with no chance of tenure, and lucky if they don't need food stamps, they earn so little.
I need to make sure my stepson does *not* consider CMU for starting college next year.
When I worked for Ameritech (a Baby Bell, since swallowed), in two years I heard that a number of times. If I ever hear it again (unlikely), I'm going to find the exec in upper management who ordered it, pick them up by their fucking lapels, and shove their head through the wall.
There was recently an article in Salon? The Atlantic? entitled "Your HR Department Hates You", and it's true. You're a "resource", not "personnel", and if you think you're "valued personnel", try negotiating how much vacation time you get, comp time, or salary (and I assume that, like me, the regulations are written by the big companies so I *can't* join a union).
You do not spec for "average" usage; you spec for *max*. You also have to spec for how many machines (when we're talking about thousands, or tens of thousands of servers) are going to fail today, to be picked up by the "zombie" machines that are, in fact, hot spares.
And then there's the Big Events, like the shooting in Charleston, or when the SCOTUS announces about gay marriage or the ACA - how many of those "zombie" machines are going to go live to help carry the traffic load?
Been done. In the mid-fifties, Lionel got the idea that, wow, I mean, *girls* might like to play with train sets. So they made one for girls
I add the link (I searched on lionel girls train), to prove just how sexist, not to say simply outright *stupid* they were about it. And yes, as you might guess, girls who wanted to play with trains wanted trains that looked like *real* trains, not "girl trains", and yes, Lionel dropped this dumb crap within a year or so.
Boys are not from Mars, girls are not from Venus. They're all humans from Earth - deal with it.
mark "and one of my daughters is a better programmer than you are"
Let's start out with how they choose what exchanges to poll. Until I moved into a specific neighborhood in a city I used to live in, I'd *NEVER* been called, which told me that "likely voters" mean "don't call any exchange where it's heavily black or 'ethnic'".
Second, I have *real* trouble with the idea that 1k or 2k people will give an accurate view of how half a million folks are going to vote; rather, that kills excellent candidates who don't have big money backers from getting to be voted on.
Finally, there are the polls - I'd say at least half of the national ones - that will be sure to do their best to come up with the numbers that the folks paying them want to see. I mean, show me a poll that Faux News uses that doesn't show what they want their audience to hear?
Of course, what no media even talks about, is that Iran would have had *one*, and only one use for ->having- (not using) a nuke: MAD.
1. Iran would never nuke Jerusalem, which is holy to all Muslims, as well as Jews and Christians.
Would Westboro Badtaste Church want to nuke Jerusalem, if they allowed gays to worship
at the Wailing Wall?
2. The US state of New Jersey is bigger than Israel. At one point, Israel is 17 mi wide (go look it up).
Dropping a nuke *anywhere* in Israel means that Jerusalem would get fallout, at the least.
3. Dripping a nuke in Israel would also hit the Palestinians, who the Iranians consider friends.
4. Considering the jet stream, guess where the fallout would continue to (hint: a country ruled
by an Ayatollah).
5. Notice that there's a small border area with Israel, that's called Iraq, Syria, and Jordan. Sort of
keeps armies from coming through to invade Israel.
Therefore, MAD with Israel would have been the only reason. So, those who don't like the idea, and think we should force regime change in Iran (I mean, it worked *so* well in Iraq), I'd expect each and every one of you to line up to enlist in the US Army, as infantry, to be ground troops for the invasion and conquest of Iran.
Otherwise, shut up.
mark
I mean, the US and the UK did, after invading and conquering Iraq, stating that they took responsibility, and that they had invaded and conquered.
Alternatively, I propose that Greek citizens be entitled to vote in the German national elections.
mark
I drive one day out of ten to work. But overwhelmingly, Americans are *stupid*.
Datum: I used to live in Chicago, in a far north neighborhood. I'd take the commuter rail into downtown. The last few miles, it runs along/in the middle of the expressway. At least four days out of five, if not 9 out of 10, we'd be cruising down at about 55mph, and the traffic on the freeway would be either stop and go, or almost standing still (except when it was standing still). Oh, and a lot near where I worked advertised an "early bird special", in by 07:00, "only" $22/day.
But they're driving their cars, usually with only one person in them, for "convenience".....
These days, taking a bus and the Metro adds perhaps 10 min to my commute.
mark
There was an announcement by RH in response to this, noting that the vulnerabilities were included in a recent release by openSSL, and that they had not gone into RHEL updates, so RHEL is not vulnerable, nor are it's children, like CentOS.
mark
Excerpt:
Too much of what has been reported in the U.S. media in these last, fraught weeks has echoed fulminations of the creditors that distort reality. Syriza has been painted as a party of the extreme left, with Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras’s government depicted as irresponsible and irreverent. This scorn comes from troika functionaries committed to enforcing utterly ruinous policies and whose behavior towards a democratically elected government has been insulting in the extreme.
--- end excerpt ---
http://www.washingtonpost.com/...
mark "libertarianoids - you're entitled to your opinions, you are *not* entitled to your facts"
The Middle Ages nobility: Read? Why would I learn that - I have clerks for that. The only proper thing for someone noble is to hunt and fight.
Mid-20th century: managers and execs don't touch a keyboard, that's what the all-woman secretarial pool is for.
Now: learning to actually do work and make things? That's beneath us, we just buy people to do that, they don't do anything useful (i.e., make money for me), it all comes from my Vision!
mark
As Sen. Sanders say, gun laws for rural New Hampshire, where they often hunt for food, *must* be very different from Chicago or LA, where the hunting is for members of some opposition social group of *people*.
Oh, and then there's all the cowards who are TERRIFIED of anyone not just like them, and needs GUNS to protect themselves....
mark, who lived in inner cities half his life, and has never felt the need for one,
and who's only known a few people with one
I wouldn't want to try one. For one, standing still for long hours isn't that good for you, either. For another, that's a *great* idea, now management can make your working/living space even smaller (Dilbert's old Velcro on your back, and hang you on the wall coming, soon).
Then there's those of us with other issues, like my arthritis.
I'm waiting for the introduction of not only treadmills under the desk, but have them generate electricity, so you produce ROI doubly.....
And ergonomics? I sit with my keyboard in my lap, several feet from my monitors. The way my cube's aligned, I can't really put my feet on the desk, but that meets all those ergonomic criteria, y'know, with wrists supported, monitors straight ahead....
mark
In '58, the famous essayist CP Snow published an essay entitled, "On the Two Cultures". In it, he was talking about the cultures of the sciences vs. the liberal arts. He noted, for example, that he knew plenty of scientists who could quote Shakespeare chapter and verse, but not one liberal arts person who even knew the simplified three laws of thermodynamics.
It's gotten much worse, and spread, thanks to the GOP's explicit building a reliable base of yellow dog Republicans out of the extreme right, the conspiracyists, the group that wants their RIGHTS (but aren't interested in their responsibilities) andthe funnymentalists who think the world's only 6000 years old. Then the media whose owners want that legal and tax and spending agenda treat them as "equally valid", and dumb down the science in school, and this is what you get: the party adherents whose mind is made up, don't confuse them with facts.
mark "the RW trumps your opinion"
Brian,
You might consider they wouldn't talk about cyber gangs with big money who live in the same metro area might be a matter of literal self-preservation.
mark "that's a nice life you got dere, be a shame if sometin' were to happen' to it"
First of all, Iran COULD NOT USE the bomb if it had one.
Why?
1. They can't bomb Jerusalem, which is as holy to them as to jews and Christians. Their own
people would slaughter them. AND they'd kill most of the Palestinians in the Occupied
Territories of the West Bank.
2. Israel is smaller than the US state of New Jersey. At one point, I believe it's a total
of ->17mi- wide. What this means is using the bomb *anywhere* in Israel means
fallout on Jerusalem.
3. Following 2, it *also* means fallout on the Palestinians.
4. Oh, yes - the winds would mean that fallout would COME BACK TO IRAN.
Therefore, the ONE and ONLY purpose that Iran would want the bomb is MAD with Israel (who has a bunch of bombs, and would cheerfully use it on Iran, if they didn't think there'd be no Israel left afterwards.
Oh, yes, and with all the climate-change deniers here, *no* *one* could imagine that maybe Iran's worried about when their oil fields are played out, and planning to do things with the money while they have it to prepare for the future, no, no, that's *way* more than next quarter....
mark
I see on wikpedia that the cost of an F-35a is $115M USD. Cancel the production of two of those pointless, massively overpriced and underperforming POS, and you've got a more than $50M to spare....
mark
In general, yes, we can. If we see it passing, and compute the orbit to be next time or so around the sun, there's a lot we can do. If we see it enough time in advance, NO, BRUCE WILLIS IS AN IDIOT. You want to hit it so that it *doesn't* break up, but nudge it faster or slower in its orbit, and it misses by a lot (and I'm considering beyond the moon's orbit plenty).
If, on the other hand, you're in the US, and think the Invisible Hand of the Market (tm) will create a company with zero possibility of return, other than perhaps one shot to try to knock one out of collision course, you might as well be figuring on the FSM moving it.
mark
Now just one minute: us superannuated hippies understand global warming being human-caused. It's the antihippie, fascist Christian/petrochemical industry folks who are paying for it to be denied....
mark
As another commenter put it, trading one currency they can't control with another? And somebody decides to use some large clusters, or large cloud, to generate money and devalue it, or another what-was-it that just collapsed, with a hundred million or so Bitcoin money *missing"?
Fiat money that is *completely* under the control of the elected government seems to work for most nations.
mark "oh, and how many fiat USD is that Bitcoin worth?"
That's absurd, that people "aren't bothered by ads". They take bathroom breaks, they get food or drinks, but... the top poster of this thread is absolutely correct. As someone older than you, let me tell you that in the sixties and seventies, the FCC-mandated limit was, I believe, 6 minutes an hour, and that *included* station breaks.
Then came cable, and the biggest thing they promised you - ALL of them - was "no more commercials, ever".
When we started taping in the nineties, it was about 18 min of commercials per hour on cable. The last time we regularly taped, maybe 10 years or so ago, it was ->22 minutes of commercials- per hour.
So tv is weaning itself from commercials? They'd *have* to, because a "one hour show" that was 50% commercials will have the number of viewers approaching zero as a limit.
mark
Background checks. SKILLS CHECKS - isn't that what the hiring manager is supposed to ascertain via the a) resume, b) phone interview, c) personal interview?
This, actually, points directly to where the problem is: HR, who DO NOT KNOW what they company does or what they're hiring someone to do, AND DON'T CARE TO LEARN. To paraphrase the old line from SN, they're ignorant sluts, Jane".
Here's another point: it takes 35 days (is that business days, or calendar?). Then, in a lot of cases, they'll be there 3 years (oh, unless they're contractors, and so many big companies, like AT&T, say two years), and they're out the door, let go, or off to a new job.
HR: a waste of space and money.
mark
So many people in the US South, whose cooking and tastes are high on both, keep voting against their own self-interest....
mark, wondering what the average diet of a libertarian is
Social media? Is that like, asking for answers or help on Facebook, with a CMU logo?
And for the folks who think hiring teachers costs too much... try looking at all the articles about the war on tenure, and how most course (that is, > 65%) are taught by "adjuncts", with no chance of tenure, and lucky if they don't need food stamps, they earn so little.
I need to make sure my stepson does *not* consider CMU for starting college next year.
mark
When I worked for Ameritech (a Baby Bell, since swallowed), in two years I heard that a number of times. If I ever hear it again (unlikely), I'm going to find the exec in upper management who ordered it, pick them up by their fucking lapels, and shove their head through the wall.
There was recently an article in Salon? The Atlantic? entitled "Your HR Department Hates You", and it's true. You're a "resource", not "personnel", and if you think you're "valued personnel", try negotiating how much vacation time you get, comp time, or salary (and I assume that, like me, the regulations are written by the big companies so I *can't* join a union).
mark
You do not spec for "average" usage; you spec for *max*. You also have to spec for how many machines (when we're talking about thousands, or tens of thousands of servers) are going to fail today, to be picked up by the "zombie" machines that are, in fact, hot spares.
And then there's the Big Events, like the shooting in Charleston, or when the SCOTUS announces about gay marriage or the ACA - how many of those "zombie" machines are going to go live to help carry the traffic load?
mark
Been done. In the mid-fifties, Lionel got the idea that, wow, I mean, *girls* might like to play with train sets. So they made one for girls
I add the link (I searched on lionel girls train), to prove just how sexist, not to say simply outright *stupid* they were about it. And yes, as you might guess, girls who wanted to play with trains wanted trains that looked like *real* trains, not "girl trains", and yes, Lionel dropped this dumb crap within a year or so.
Boys are not from Mars, girls are not from Venus. They're all humans from Earth - deal with it.
mark "and one of my daughters is a better programmer than you are"
Let's start out with how they choose what exchanges to poll. Until I moved into a specific neighborhood in a city I used to live in, I'd *NEVER* been called, which told me that "likely voters" mean "don't call any exchange where it's heavily black or 'ethnic'".
Second, I have *real* trouble with the idea that 1k or 2k people will give an accurate view of how half a million folks are going to vote; rather, that kills excellent candidates who don't have big money backers from getting to be voted on.
Finally, there are the polls - I'd say at least half of the national ones - that will be sure to do their best to come up with the numbers that the folks paying them want to see. I mean, show me a poll that Faux News uses that doesn't show what they want their audience to hear?
mark
... have that jack installed in my head behind my ear? Cool, I can do without surgery....
mark "other than behind the ear is, of course, crude, which means a lot of slashdotters would do it...."
I wish the report would relate it to *height*.
I mean, height of men going into the US army:
WWI: 5'6"
WWII: 5'8"
Vietnam: 5'10"
Though I will say that a high percentage of folks *are* a lot heavier than when I was younger.
mark