"There is a reason why Windows servers are so popular and it is no one makes directory services, file sharing, group policy, and email/calendaring as easy as Microsoft. Microsoft has been so successful at creating these services and making them simple to administer that most open source projects try to emulate/replicate/duplicate what already has been done"
I disagree.
Before even Novell had NDS working well there was StreeTalk. But NDS worked just fine, than, you very much.
It was the client, being crippled by Microsoft, that hampered NetWare. Not NDS.
The whole Microsoft v. Novell thing is a good case study in using interoperability to first build a market, then crush your competition, leaving you dominant and solitary. Perhaps you need to go back and read some of the court papers to more fully appreciate the effort Microsoft put into making Novell fail on Windows.
And then there's the whole Lotus 1-2-3 and WordPerfect things, but we digress. When Microsoft starts 'working' on interoperability, it is not irrational to suspect foul play. It's experience.
ps- I rather liked GroupWise, which worked pretty well when Exchange was not. And I use Notes at work which, despite the complaints, works too well to ditch here. Not entirely fair, 'cause here we use so many Notes databases and apps that Exchange can't replace all of it. The IBMers are frantically converting everything into.NET and Web 2.0 so we can use Exchange, and coincidentally experience substantially enhanced downtime in our data apps. And they are succeeding well. We've even lost data. Woot! Believe me, I know, these guys don't need any help from Microsoft.
"..they were widely perceived by scientists and environmentalists alike as silly and even immoral attempts to avoid addressing the root of the problem of global warming"
Immoral?
Can someone enlighten me on how this would be immoral?
Without reading any responses, lemme see if I get this straight.
- Economy tanks
- No money
- Open Source is ditched in favor of spending money
- Free services will fail in favor of PAYING for the same thing, only different.
- NO PROFIT!!!
Sorry, but in a down economy, I expect more open source development;
- Ditch the expensive IDE in favor of something free, like Open Source.
- Take a long hard look at deploying the project in Open Source instead of buying that expensive software
- Profit!
Uh, down economies are the meat of Open Source adoption. Remember the Web 1.0 bubble? When it burst, those projects went FOSS. Actually, they started FOSS, and when the money dried up, free still worked.
Gee, there might be something to this stuff after all.
There truly is nothing new about this. Van Eck attacks are Cold-War stuff. Tempest was in IBM displayWriters, and everything after that, as well as all the PC stuff of course.
The LHC would have cost more if they tried to build it underneath Boston.
There's the plumbers union, the steelworkers union, the garbagemen union, the police, MTA, and a few thousand Charlies to deal with. Not to mention the takeout shops being shut down for a few months at a time.
But hey, they actually built a new Garden. So anything is possible in Boston. Even the Sox winning the Series again. Oh yeah... Well, the Pats winning a Super Bowl. Oh yeah... Well, the Celtics winning the NBA Championship. Like THAT's ever gonna happen again! Yeah! Take That! Bahahahaha!
And if they did build the LHC underneath Boston, it would leak like a sieve. Oh, wait...
...and take up a collection to pay the spammers to send a regular smattering of these files in their usual spam loads....and both overwhelm the filter and crush the ISP NAPs....and express our displeasure at the rapidly coming destruction of probable cause on the Internet.
Because we know that shortly after the 'authorities' can do this, they will be asking to investigate the intended recipients, on the premise that they have 'probable cause'.
I can't hardly tell the difference between the NY Attorney General and the RIAA any more. No, kiddie pr0n is not good and I condemn it. But we give up a lot when we give up the rights granted so long ago. Stick to the stings, guys, and try to avoid deliberately incriminating innocent people, ok?
Damn, what political party can I be a member of now... They all suck.
I mananaged a NetWare 3.11 server that we installed some time in 1993 I think, and didn't get shut down until 2002. It overflowed the date counter at least twice in one stretch, and was finally shut down for drive replacements with 179 days on it. We think it was up for 2177 days, and missed every patch that was 'critical' during that time. It served a dedicated app, and was happy in a very cold corner of the machine room next to a row of AS/400 racks that probably beat it for uptime. Being cold helped those old Fujitsu drives go much longer than I expected...
We put a Slackware box in shortly after that to do proxy, mail forwarding, and VPN and it stayed up for over 200 days at a time between drive swaps and the VPN install. This was before spam was king. Oh, and it got pwned twice in a month, no thanks to MCI putting a pink slip spammer in our subnet. Nice work, guys, hope you didn't spend your commission all in one place. Can you tell I'm not bitter?
My email server has run either Red Hat for up to 660 days at a stretch, or Fedora for well over 500 days several times over the years. Lately, I've been fiddling with it and causing some great panics, as well as trying to make FC3 work with current Bind, OpenSSL, etc.
There are lots of Linux boxen out there cranking stupid uptimes. Some of them are actually workstations, while servers with less than 100+ days uptime should be considered unstable, out of date, or are being changed a lot...
Now, show me some Windows server with uptime in 3 digits, and that would be remarkable. Should we handicap Windows for the patch problems???
- My microwave oven gets spam? I want my microwave oven ordering sushi? Or cooking the platter for 99 minutes while I'm at work?
- My patio lights get crank calls in the night, flashign on and off? Me, I can sleep, but my neighbors are morons. So are their cats.
- I want my light switches to obey anyone else? Well, maybe my wife. But she doesn't need a web interface to shut the light off in the cellar.
I just forsee botnets sending their dutiful soldiers commands to try everything. If there is any justice in the world, they will also shut off the power to the damned computer too. And lose my iTunes folder in the process.
Nothing good can come of this. You heard it here...
At the financial institution where I work, It and data security are considered core values, and have these defined ricks and benefits:
- Financial harm to partners of all types, resulting in potentially destructive financial impacts.
- Loss of prestige, damage to brand image, and ultimately loss of business with diminished profitability and potential business failure.
- Increased regulatory oversight, increased costs, and damage to brand image.
- Legal sanctions that can result in business failure.
This organization sees IT and data security as both a part of the business and a necessary function. As necessary as processing transactions and paying employees. It is a core value in more ways than I can disclose here, and there are several security officers high up on the org chart. Higher than my boss...
Not all organizations see it the same way. Now to get the l0sers to change their attitudes...
For Apple's target, thinner is 'better'. Make it even 2mm thicker, and I betcha there will be complaints. Feh.
of course, there is also the issue of the industrial design advantages of a sealed device. Adding a battery door will probably make the device less sturdy, though Apple can figure out how to make it stronger if they care to...
- wait, how do you change a SIM card in the iPHone? Darn, it's a special slot. can't fit a battery through there.
- The gas engine will get 50MPG on the highway. It's an interestng quirk that the Prius gets worse mileage at highway speeds. This seems to be caused by using both engines, with the obvious energy penalty. Will the Volt or whatever have better energy management? Hopefully a little tubrodiesel will be more effecient, but reports I've read indicate it will be used as a generator, not a traction motor. So yes, I hope not to run out of gas.
- The Volt is regularly proposed as electric-only. I've just seen recent reports that GM is possibly looing into making it a hybrid at first. Typical. Propose something wiz-bang, that really sounds cute, then the obvious criticisms come in and go back to the drawing board to accomodate real-world concerns. oh, while yer at it, ask for a gummint loan to finance development, cause it's really hard and takes a lot of money for the world's once-largest automaker to survive in a competitive market. Sorry, I'm feeling a little pinched what with Wall Street needing a loan from me, and the petroleum industry emptying my wallet at an alarming rate, all the while giving it to people that hate me and want to kill me and my family and end my way of life, which I happen to cherish. Reality bites, and the Volt will need better batteries. So while we start drilling our own oil, as responsibly as possible, we will need to finance battery development, or some form of energy storage as efficient as gasoline or diesel. Sheesh.
- And while we're at it, perhaps Detroit could work on the next generation of cars that are not just efficient, but adaptable to different drivetrains. Be flexible?
ps - Electricity isn't free here. Your 127MPG example doesn't seem to account for that. Perhaps a better measure is KW/mile, though pehaps we need to talk about relative $/mile. Maybe in adjusted $, reflecting a standard gas and electricity pricing... Actual $/mile will depend on market conditions, so to relate to mpg we just need to assume costs. For now.
My commute is 66 miles roundtrip, 67 if I need to get gas. So if my plug-in hybrid dies on the 202 some 12 miles from home, I:
* hook a generator up to a stationary bike - yea, sure. I carry a stationary bike in the trunk? Let's not worry about the generator while I laugh this one off...
* lay out a few yards of solar panels for a few minutes (if you are only a few miles from home) - I'm unaware of any current PV technology that will give me a useful charge by laying out a few yards along the roadside. Heck, I wonder if I can find something that would give my CELLPHONE a useful charge in a few minutes. Not to mention that for 4 months of the year, my commute back home is IN THE DARK. It's called Winter, a not uncommon phenomenon.
* knock on someone's door with an extension cord in your hand and ask to use a few cents of power - No one lives on the 202 here, bucko. I need an extension cord about 400' long in most areas. in one long stretch, think a cord measured in tenths of a mile. I'll be coasting to the next exit huh...
* harness some wind power using a wind strip - This makes more sense as any of the other clever ideas, which is to say it does not make ZERO sense. But I'm wondering how much the wind strip gizmo will cost, and how long to charge me up for the 12 mile dash home...
Why do I use a 12-mile empty as an example? My 66 mile round trip depends on the traffic. Some days, it's 30 minutes one way with sleci traffic. Some days, it's 60+ minutes with 18 miles of pure stop-n-go. Sometimes more, never less. I wonder how my plug-in will handle that variation.
Sadly, not many people have thought through the plugin thing. I can't see a pure electric working for me until the batteries get much better, probably 3x the capacity now.
And I think it would take more like
and last/worst case
* actually use a gas can and use a generator to charge for the few miles home.
Our security team is smarter than that. My group doesn't get port 22, and if it isn't port 80 or 443, my proxy doesn't pass it. I've tried, but putty doesn't work.
Miraculaously, though, webmin does. But the provided SSH java gizo doesn't get connected. My server won't do SSH1 any more.
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"There is a reason why Windows servers are so popular and it is no one makes directory services, file sharing, group policy, and email/calendaring as easy as Microsoft. Microsoft has been so successful at creating these services and making them simple to administer that most open source projects try to emulate/replicate/duplicate what already has been done"
I disagree.
Before even Novell had NDS working well there was StreeTalk. But NDS worked just fine, than, you very much.
It was the client, being crippled by Microsoft, that hampered NetWare. Not NDS.
The whole Microsoft v. Novell thing is a good case study in using interoperability to first build a market, then crush your competition, leaving you dominant and solitary. Perhaps you need to go back and read some of the court papers to more fully appreciate the effort Microsoft put into making Novell fail on Windows.
And then there's the whole Lotus 1-2-3 and WordPerfect things, but we digress. When Microsoft starts 'working' on interoperability, it is not irrational to suspect foul play. It's experience.
ps- I rather liked GroupWise, which worked pretty well when Exchange was not. And I use Notes at work which, despite the complaints, works too well to ditch here. Not entirely fair, 'cause here we use so many Notes databases and apps that Exchange can't replace all of it. The IBMers are frantically converting everything into .NET and Web 2.0 so we can use Exchange, and coincidentally experience substantially enhanced downtime in our data apps. And they are succeeding well. We've even lost data. Woot! Believe me, I know, these guys don't need any help from Microsoft.
grrr....
Gee, lemme guess.
- It doesn't actually prevent me from doing what I want to do with my media - therefore, it never appears, and is invisible.
- It doesn't require my intervention to buy, use, move, archive, or delete media - therefore, it never appears and is invisible.
- It doesn't alter my media experience - therefore, it never appears and is invisible.
So it doesn't show itself, and therefore to me it doesn't exist.
Got it.
Auto junkyard.
The Black Hole if you're close enough.
Most any plant has a pile of junk. Many gizmos in there.
"..they were widely perceived by scientists and environmentalists alike as silly and even immoral attempts to avoid addressing the root of the problem of global warming"
Immoral?
Can someone enlighten me on how this would be immoral?
They must be getting paid by the line.... no, wait...
oh, they oustourced it to India by the line... no, wait...
They love writing code.
Yeah, that's it. Makes sense now.
Whoever they is.
Without reading any responses, lemme see if I get this straight.
- Economy tanks
- No money
- Open Source is ditched in favor of spending money
- Free services will fail in favor of PAYING for the same thing, only different.
- NO PROFIT!!!
Sorry, but in a down economy, I expect more open source development;
- Ditch the expensive IDE in favor of something free, like Open Source.
- Take a long hard look at deploying the project in Open Source instead of buying that expensive software
- Profit!
Uh, down economies are the meat of Open Source adoption. Remember the Web 1.0 bubble? When it burst, those projects went FOSS. Actually, they started FOSS, and when the money dried up, free still worked.
Gee, there might be something to this stuff after all.
Sounds like this.
There truly is nothing new about this. Van Eck attacks are Cold-War stuff. Tempest was in IBM displayWriters, and everything after that, as well as all the PC stuff of course.
These look more like misaddressed emails. Not so entertaining. And not very unique. Maybe it's time to go biweekly with disagree mail???
The LHC would have cost more if they tried to build it underneath Boston.
There's the plumbers union, the steelworkers union, the garbagemen union, the police, MTA, and a few thousand Charlies to deal with. Not to mention the takeout shops being shut down for a few months at a time.
But hey, they actually built a new Garden. So anything is possible in Boston. Even the Sox winning the Series again. Oh yeah... Well, the Pats winning a Super Bowl. Oh yeah... Well, the Celtics winning the NBA Championship. Like THAT's ever gonna happen again! Yeah! Take That! Bahahahaha!
And if they did build the LHC underneath Boston, it would leak like a sieve. Oh, wait...
...and take up a collection to pay the spammers to send a regular smattering of these files in their usual spam loads. ...and both overwhelm the filter and crush the ISP NAPs. ...and express our displeasure at the rapidly coming destruction of probable cause on the Internet.
Because we know that shortly after the 'authorities' can do this, they will be asking to investigate the intended recipients, on the premise that they have 'probable cause'.
I can't hardly tell the difference between the NY Attorney General and the RIAA any more. No, kiddie pr0n is not good and I condemn it. But we give up a lot when we give up the rights granted so long ago. Stick to the stings, guys, and try to avoid deliberately incriminating innocent people, ok?
Damn, what political party can I be a member of now... They all suck.
I mananaged a NetWare 3.11 server that we installed some time in 1993 I think, and didn't get shut down until 2002. It overflowed the date counter at least twice in one stretch, and was finally shut down for drive replacements with 179 days on it. We think it was up for 2177 days, and missed every patch that was 'critical' during that time. It served a dedicated app, and was happy in a very cold corner of the machine room next to a row of AS/400 racks that probably beat it for uptime. Being cold helped those old Fujitsu drives go much longer than I expected...
We put a Slackware box in shortly after that to do proxy, mail forwarding, and VPN and it stayed up for over 200 days at a time between drive swaps and the VPN install. This was before spam was king. Oh, and it got pwned twice in a month, no thanks to MCI putting a pink slip spammer in our subnet. Nice work, guys, hope you didn't spend your commission all in one place. Can you tell I'm not bitter?
My email server has run either Red Hat for up to 660 days at a stretch, or Fedora for well over 500 days several times over the years. Lately, I've been fiddling with it and causing some great panics, as well as trying to make FC3 work with current Bind, OpenSSL, etc.
There are lots of Linux boxen out there cranking stupid uptimes. Some of them are actually workstations, while servers with less than 100+ days uptime should be considered unstable, out of date, or are being changed a lot...
Now, show me some Windows server with uptime in 3 digits, and that would be remarkable. Should we handicap Windows for the patch problems???
I just don't think this is good.
- My microwave oven gets spam? I want my microwave oven ordering sushi? Or cooking the platter for 99 minutes while I'm at work?
- My patio lights get crank calls in the night, flashign on and off? Me, I can sleep, but my neighbors are morons. So are their cats.
- I want my light switches to obey anyone else? Well, maybe my wife. But she doesn't need a web interface to shut the light off in the cellar.
I just forsee botnets sending their dutiful soldiers commands to try everything. If there is any justice in the world, they will also shut off the power to the damned computer too. And lose my iTunes folder in the process.
Nothing good can come of this. You heard it here...
by about 2%
go team.
At the financial institution where I work, It and data security are considered core values, and have these defined ricks and benefits:
- Financial harm to partners of all types, resulting in potentially destructive financial impacts.
- Loss of prestige, damage to brand image, and ultimately loss of business with diminished profitability and potential business failure.
- Increased regulatory oversight, increased costs, and damage to brand image.
- Legal sanctions that can result in business failure.
This organization sees IT and data security as both a part of the business and a necessary function. As necessary as processing transactions and paying employees. It is a core value in more ways than I can disclose here, and there are several security officers high up on the org chart. Higher than my boss...
Not all organizations see it the same way. Now to get the l0sers to change their attitudes...
Not 'good' design. 'Better' design.
For Apple's target, thinner is 'better'. Make it even 2mm thicker, and I betcha there will be complaints. Feh.
of course, there is also the issue of the industrial design advantages of a sealed device. Adding a battery door will probably make the device less sturdy, though Apple can figure out how to make it stronger if they care to...
- wait, how do you change a SIM card in the iPHone? Darn, it's a special slot. can't fit a battery through there.
Colby College area?
More like Bowdoin country.
Actually, wasn't it the USM School of Law students dope-slapping the RIAA with better research, better logic, and pure unabashed righteousness?
Or something like that...
I was responding the the dipstick that referenced child pr0n. Not you.
Confused? Sorry....
"Or any sex with 'other people' at all."
There, FTFY
You're making some interesting assumptions:
- The gas engine will get 50MPG on the highway. It's an interestng quirk that the Prius gets worse mileage at highway speeds. This seems to be caused by using both engines, with the obvious energy penalty. Will the Volt or whatever have better energy management? Hopefully a little tubrodiesel will be more effecient, but reports I've read indicate it will be used as a generator, not a traction motor. So yes, I hope not to run out of gas.
- The Volt is regularly proposed as electric-only. I've just seen recent reports that GM is possibly looing into making it a hybrid at first. Typical. Propose something wiz-bang, that really sounds cute, then the obvious criticisms come in and go back to the drawing board to accomodate real-world concerns. oh, while yer at it, ask for a gummint loan to finance development, cause it's really hard and takes a lot of money for the world's once-largest automaker to survive in a competitive market. Sorry, I'm feeling a little pinched what with Wall Street needing a loan from me, and the petroleum industry emptying my wallet at an alarming rate, all the while giving it to people that hate me and want to kill me and my family and end my way of life, which I happen to cherish. Reality bites, and the Volt will need better batteries. So while we start drilling our own oil, as responsibly as possible, we will need to finance battery development, or some form of energy storage as efficient as gasoline or diesel. Sheesh.
- And while we're at it, perhaps Detroit could work on the next generation of cars that are not just efficient, but adaptable to different drivetrains. Be flexible?
ps - Electricity isn't free here. Your 127MPG example doesn't seem to account for that. Perhaps a better measure is KW/mile, though pehaps we need to talk about relative $/mile. Maybe in adjusted $, reflecting a standard gas and electricity pricing... Actual $/mile will depend on market conditions, so to relate to mpg we just need to assume costs. For now.
Not so easy.
My commute is 66 miles roundtrip, 67 if I need to get gas. So if my plug-in hybrid dies on the 202 some 12 miles from home, I:
* hook a generator up to a stationary bike - yea, sure. I carry a stationary bike in the trunk? Let's not worry about the generator while I laugh this one off...
* lay out a few yards of solar panels for a few minutes (if you are only a few miles from home) - I'm unaware of any current PV technology that will give me a useful charge by laying out a few yards along the roadside. Heck, I wonder if I can find something that would give my CELLPHONE a useful charge in a few minutes. Not to mention that for 4 months of the year, my commute back home is IN THE DARK. It's called Winter, a not uncommon phenomenon.
* knock on someone's door with an extension cord in your hand and ask to use a few cents of power - No one lives on the 202 here, bucko. I need an extension cord about 400' long in most areas. in one long stretch, think a cord measured in tenths of a mile. I'll be coasting to the next exit huh...
* harness some wind power using a wind strip - This makes more sense as any of the other clever ideas, which is to say it does not make ZERO sense. But I'm wondering how much the wind strip gizmo will cost, and how long to charge me up for the 12 mile dash home...
Why do I use a 12-mile empty as an example? My 66 mile round trip depends on the traffic. Some days, it's 30 minutes one way with sleci traffic. Some days, it's 60+ minutes with 18 miles of pure stop-n-go. Sometimes more, never less. I wonder how my plug-in will handle that variation.
Sadly, not many people have thought through the plugin thing. I can't see a pure electric working for me until the batteries get much better, probably 3x the capacity now.
And I think it would take more like
and last/worst case
* actually use a gas can and use a generator to charge for the few miles home.
Our security team is smarter than that. My group doesn't get port 22, and if it isn't port 80 or 443, my proxy doesn't pass it. I've tried, but putty doesn't work.
Miraculaously, though, webmin does. But the provided SSH java gizo doesn't get connected. My server won't do SSH1 any more.
It's a game.
Didn't see that coming...
{Choking down another buffalo wing}
You ARE new here.
Just don't let the bastards get to you.
That's offensive. You should have posted as an AC.
No, really, that's entirely offensive. Nice job.
Oh, then you're set. I'm thinking more of the poor blighters who think they need to do work 24x7, but only have a 9-5 system...
ick.