Sure, this idea looks good on paper. But in actuality the reason why this would never even be attempted on large scale is as evident as the reason why spam is still here in the first place.
Things like this will always boil down to the lowest common denominator, you will *always* have a signifigant amount of people *always* ignoring the spam they get.
Personally, I'd like to see spam gone. But asking people to take time out of their day to answer all the spams they get (not to mention all the lude and obnoxious spams as well) just wont happen in my opinion..
The fact that Apple isnt making much money at this time isn't a problem at all, they are the first of many that will be popping up all over the place, eventually you will have indie record labels doing the same, with equal quality music selling for less becuase they own the copyright. Once you start seeing places undercutting each other on the prices you will see the major record labels realising that there will be no more monopoly. Just think if a person decided to make a generic server/client software that was similar to iTunes (with its own DRM model) and distributed the software itself to the "mom+pop" crowd, you'll see the whole industry explode; in my opinion this could eventually paralell the "shopping cart" you can easily add to any website. Once this happens the cat is out of the bag so to say. And no longer is the money funneling towards a single place. And the artists just might get a cut when this happens.
Denies the allegations of paragraph 16 and alleges that Linux is, in actuality, an unauthorized version of UNIX that is structured, assembled and designed to be technologically indistinguishable from UNIX, and practically is distinguishable only in that Linux is a 'free' version of UNIX designed to destroy proprietary operating system software.
Thats like saying that Ford cant make 4 door, gasoline combustion, 4 wheeled, bucket seat, fully-painted, 2 axled, single steering wheeled, D.O.T. certified horseless carriage and sell it (or give it away if it was so inclined) becuase it resembled something similar to a Toyota Product.
Actually, I think the question you wanted to ask was "can they successfully use Dselect and grok the concept too!"
My first impression of Debain was using 'apt' and then messing with Dselect and then when the smoke cleared I asked myself "Why can something so good be sooooo bad?"
Now he says he is cautious about working with GPL software.
Why would anyone who has a financial interest in a product that uses GPL software, potentially uses GPL software, or any other type NOT be cautious of their actions?
Whenever you bring a commercial product through development whether you are using proprietary OR free software you must calculate the risks of using said software.
No matter what the licensing scheme is, you can't just go whilly nilly and do whatever you want just becuase you feel like it.. (Unless ofcourse your SCO, but thats besides the point...)
Actually, they did try to mung up the HTML standard. But not very sucessfully. Ever see "This page best viewed with MS IE v4.5 or better" ??
They incorporated all sorts of browser specific code that only works on IE in the hopes that they could curtail the HTML standard into their own bastardised version of it.
Thanks to Mozilla, Opera, Konqueror we didnt completely go down that road.
Ever wonder what the people involved with Arpanet would have to say about this? If I was involved in the birth of the internet as we know it.. I'd be questioning the motives for doing it in the first place.. Aside from initially being a military project I am talking about the people who adapted it to the public. As in university folk.
Just take a look at where we are now. It makes me sick just thinking about it.
Its got to be the 3 character corporation name. "SGI" is not exactly "SCO" but their discovery teams found that in order to do business as "SGI" they would need to use 3 letters AND it starts with an "S"..
Conincience? They think not! They MUST have stolen this character sequence from SCO!
Actually, if you look closer at the "ipswitch" one they dont completely take out the Red Hat, they cropped 95% of it off of the picture, leaving 5% in plain view.
Whereas the SCO picture aims to remove the Red Hat completely off of the big picture.
Actually.. I ran a technical support department for a small ISP for a couple years.
It amazing how accurate you are in reguards to customer viewpoint on downtime.
After having done it myself, I actually have MUCH more respect for technicul support engineers/supervisors becuase within reason most "downtime" is fixed even before the customer knows about it (i.e. small blips in service).
And the majority of people who purchase an ISP's services have absolutely no idea what it takes to respond to an outtage.
One of the reasons why Linux is not as vulnerable to virii and worms is becuase it is so configurable.. I would liken it to the immune system in humans, everyone has the same "type" of human immune system, however, some people are immune (to a potential virus or infection) due to a slightly different configuration in that system.
On that logic, windows is like a million clones of one person.. So when one virus takes hold, there is no genetic diversity.
The way I see it, there is potential for this technology to go even further. This might in fact be the forefront for technology like bionic implants (motors in joints) attached to bone and tissue for power-assist. Coupled with the advent of Power from Blood we may see this happen.
I, for one, welcome myself as your new super-bionic overlord.:)
Where are all the SCO employees in this matter? Surely there has got to be some way to let the people who actually do the work in that company know about the fact that their leaders are getting ready to put the company into huge financial and legal trouble and their asses will be on the unemployment line onec all this is said and done. Given the facts, they should form a union and go on strike.:)
Why can't we look at it the other way around? Wasnt there any type of accountability in the code as to who wrote what? Why can't we just see what code IS legitamatly free and see what is left? Doesnt Linux keep a roster of the major developers who contributed code to the Linux kernel? I know that if I contributed code to it, I'd want at least my name on the code fragment to say "look what I did".
So how does this help the Martian life lobby? Given these recent findings, wouldn't we be better off looking for monocellular life somewhere like Venus, say?
Actually, not really. One of the reasons why we speculate more about 'Life on Mars' and try to come up with these theories is becuase Mars is likely the second planet we as a species will enhabit. There is an enormous push to make damn-well sure that there isnt't anything unexpected that could thwart our colonisation. And we're curious, but curiosity is usually funded by commercialisation.:)
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Thats a pretty good analogy.. Becuase SCO used to be on *our* side.
:)
I present to you: The Fellowship of the Source
"One License to rule them all, One License to find them. One License to litigate them and in the darkness bind them"
Here are your Characters:
IBM = Gandalf
RHAT = Boromir
Novell = Gimli
SGI = Eomir
Linus = Frodo
RMS = Samwise
*Not a complete list, but i'm at work.
Sure, this idea looks good on paper. But in actuality the reason why this would never even be attempted on large scale is as evident as the reason why spam is still here in the first place.
Things like this will always boil down to the lowest common denominator, you will *always* have a signifigant amount of people *always* ignoring the spam they get.
Personally, I'd like to see spam gone. But asking people to take time out of their day to answer all the spams they get (not to mention all the lude and obnoxious spams as well) just wont happen in my opinion..
Does this strike anyone else how ironic that the first program to be infected with a virus was called 'VD' ?
The fact that Apple isnt making much money at this time isn't a problem at all, they are the first of many that will be popping up all over the place, eventually you will have indie record labels doing the same, with equal quality music selling for less becuase they own the copyright. Once you start seeing places undercutting each other on the prices you will see the major record labels realising that there will be no more monopoly. Just think if a person decided to make a generic server/client software that was similar to iTunes (with its own DRM model) and distributed the software itself to the "mom+pop" crowd, you'll see the whole industry explode; in my opinion this could eventually paralell the "shopping cart" you can easily add to any website. Once this happens the cat is out of the bag so to say. And no longer is the money funneling towards a single place. And the artists just might get a cut when this happens.
Denies the allegations of paragraph 16 and alleges that Linux is, in actuality, an unauthorized version of UNIX that is structured, assembled and designed to be technologically indistinguishable from UNIX, and practically is distinguishable only in that Linux is a 'free' version of UNIX designed to destroy proprietary operating system software.
Thats like saying that Ford cant make 4 door, gasoline combustion, 4 wheeled, bucket seat, fully-painted, 2 axled, single steering wheeled, D.O.T. certified horseless carriage and sell it (or give it away if it was so inclined) becuase it resembled something similar to a Toyota Product.
?WTF?
Actually, I think the question you wanted to ask was "can they successfully use Dselect and grok the concept too!"
My first impression of Debain was using 'apt' and then messing with Dselect and then when the smoke cleared I asked myself "Why can something so good be sooooo bad?"
heh.
j/k
Aha!
Maybe now we can get on with "Operation Impending DOOM 3!"
hahahahahahhahahahaha!
We can now select EARTH's tallest to least us to victory!
Now he says he is cautious about working with GPL software.
Why would anyone who has a financial interest in a product that uses GPL software, potentially uses GPL software, or any other type NOT be cautious of their actions?
Whenever you bring a commercial product through development whether you are using proprietary OR free software you must calculate the risks of using said software.
No matter what the licensing scheme is, you can't just go whilly nilly and do whatever you want just becuase you feel like it.. (Unless ofcourse your SCO, but thats besides the point...)
A little off-topic, I know- but...
/. effect will subside.
I wish slashdot would give some sort of statistics on how many click-throughs to an article have been initiated (say in the last 10 minutes or so)...
As it is there is no way of knowing when the damn
just a thaught.
Half of me thinks that is incredibly cool and the other half wants to kick your ass.
I get that alot..
Exactly my thinking..
'cuz I resemble that remark..
I actually have a tattoo of a RJ45 port on my left arm.
Rock on!
Maybe now we can make our PC's endlessly play TIC-TAC-TOE and watch the Memory LEDs freak out until they go solid.
A little tweaking and we can have case mods that are just like the WOPR from WarGames!
yay.
I really don't see your point of view on this one. I'm not necisarily disagreeing with you though. I'd just like you to clarify your point.
See the DOM as an example of taking what MS made and not going down the Netscape lane to lunacy
This sentence doesnt make a whole lot of sense...
Could you please define "going down the Netscape lane to lunacy" please?
Actually, they did try to mung up the HTML standard. But not very sucessfully. Ever see "This page best viewed with MS IE v4.5 or better" ??
They incorporated all sorts of browser specific code that only works on IE in the hopes that they could curtail the HTML standard into their own bastardised version of it.
Thanks to Mozilla, Opera, Konqueror we didnt completely go down that road.
Ever wonder what the people involved with Arpanet would have to say about this? If I was involved in the birth of the internet as we know it.. I'd be questioning the motives for doing it in the first place.. Aside from initially being a military project I am talking about the people who adapted it to the public. As in university folk.
Just take a look at where we are now. It makes me sick just thinking about it.
Hey, can we get a text filter for threads dealing with **AA?
Example:
When someone submits a story that has the word "theft" in it, it is automagically replaced with "infringe a copywrited work" ?
Its got to be the 3 character corporation name. "SGI" is not exactly "SCO" but their discovery teams found that in order to do business as "SGI" they would need to use 3 letters AND it starts with an "S"..
Conincience? They think not! They MUST have stolen this character sequence from SCO!
They must PAY!
Actually, if you look closer at the "ipswitch" one they dont completely take out the Red Hat, they cropped 95% of it off of the picture, leaving 5% in plain view.
Whereas the SCO picture aims to remove the Red Hat completely off of the big picture.
Conspiracy theory?
Actually.. I ran a technical support department for a small ISP for a couple years.
It amazing how accurate you are in reguards to customer viewpoint on downtime.
After having done it myself, I actually have MUCH more respect for technicul support engineers/supervisors becuase within reason most "downtime" is fixed even before the customer knows about it (i.e. small blips in service).
And the majority of people who purchase an ISP's services have absolutely no idea what it takes to respond to an outtage.
One of the reasons why Linux is not as vulnerable to virii and worms is becuase it is so configurable.. I would liken it to the immune system in humans, everyone has the same "type" of human immune system, however, some people are immune (to a potential virus or infection) due to a slightly different configuration in that system.
On that logic, windows is like a million clones of one person.. So when one virus takes hold, there is no genetic diversity.
Anyone have any similar ideas?
The way I see it, there is potential for this technology to go even further. This might in fact be the forefront for technology like bionic implants (motors in joints) attached to bone and tissue for power-assist. Coupled with the advent of Power from Blood we may see this happen.
:)
I, for one, welcome myself as your new super-bionic overlord.
Where are all the SCO employees in this matter? Surely there has got to be some way to let the people who actually do the work in that company know about the fact that their leaders are getting ready to put the company into huge financial and legal trouble and their asses will be on the unemployment line onec all this is said and done. Given the facts, they should form a union and go on strike. :)
Why can't we look at it the other way around? Wasnt there any type of accountability in the code as to who wrote what? Why can't we just see what code IS legitamatly free and see what is left? Doesnt Linux keep a roster of the major developers who contributed code to the Linux kernel? I know that if I contributed code to it, I'd want at least my name on the code fragment to say "look what I did".
So how does this help the Martian life lobby? Given these recent findings, wouldn't we be better off looking for monocellular life somewhere like Venus, say?
:)
Actually, not really. One of the reasons why we speculate more about 'Life on Mars' and try to come up with these theories is becuase Mars is likely the second planet we as a species will enhabit. There is an enormous push to make damn-well sure that there isnt't anything unexpected that could thwart our colonisation. And we're curious, but curiosity is usually funded by commercialisation.