As much as one can hate the IRS, they offer *seemingly* endless ways to work thru or around the deadline. They know not everything IS the taxpayers fault (except for not filing anything).
Plus I think Bioware is in way more control of their title's publishing. They can afford to put $$ into their own productions making only themselves (primarily) as a factor in deadlines. Obsidian still has to have other companies to bankroll their projects and distribute their good, and thus, must answer to their bankroller involving direction and deadlines. Bioware USED to be that way (think the glory days of Interplay, when Bioware made BG I + II and MDK2 for Interplay - for starters).
I've followed this for some time. Unfortunately, I have to agree, it's just been stagnant with minute releases over time. Once in a while (once or twice?) they got fed up and "redid the engine", effectively destroying what work they had done.:(
As the parent of you post mentioned and your comments about perception, you are both on to something. It's true, most people will think the "new version of Windows" is just fine, as most people just want to play simple games, write documents, maybe a little spreadsheeting, browse the intarwebs, and get their email. Beyond that, you are getting closer to the realm of the power users.
The Average Joe won't care as long as it works and less vulnerabilities from the last OS version (which I'm sure Vista - and to a lesser degree, IE7 - delivers to some degree).
The belly-achers (like me, I am REALY REALLY leary on moving to Vista any time soon, XP works just *fine* for me now) are in a minority.
and I love doing both, as long as I have decent tools to do either with.
For example, I have done desktop development for over 10 years, I am more experienced at it and easier to make a usable UI. Drawbacks: harder to build and test, but easier to step debug - unfortunately, my current employer has a MESS of a desktop app full of.NET front ends and legacy C++ backends in a mix of multiple versions of MFC and.NET - argh - which makes it unbearable at times, but only on the app I currently work on.
Web apps, I have only done for about 5-6 years tops, however the UI flexibility is less powerful, the "stateless" state of doing web programming is a bit more of a challenge. Easier to set up and get running fast, harder to step debug (unless you have just the right dev environment) and can be VERY hair raising. Oddly enough I am doing a contract job for a company right now, purely in ASP.NET 2.0 (C#) and I am having a blast. However, I AM fortunate to be able to build from the ground up so I know what everything is doing.
In *MY* opinion, "real men" don't care if they or anyone else says "fuck". The word is only as ugly or violent as you want it to be. (Admittedly, the effect of the word does have significant impact on other people, because they let that word bother them, luckily for me a *majority* of people I communicate with regularly (not all, mind you) are reallt affected by that word much, nor does it affect me much.)
However, ultimately, that is an opinion. I love how people make statements that at least comes off as absolute definitions on what is a "real man", like they are an expert on the subject (or whatnot). You have about as much as a clue as the rest of us. Plus, once you get on in the years (I don't know about your specific age, as can only ascertain an age range based on your past experience of arcades and such), at least to me, the idea of defining such terms becomes even less and less important.
I grew up in arcades in the 80s. I had my 2600 and home Pong machine (standard issue in suburbia). I found Sin City a fantastic move (and graphic novel) and Doom was a groundbreaking achievement in computer gaming. I say my share of the word "fuck" (and many many many other words); I like ultra-violent movies just for the sheer audacity of them; I like a good comedy; and I like realistic gaming with violence as well as a good game of Zuma or a good platformer.
I don't know what a "real man" is - I keep seeing and reading about and hearing guys talking about what it is, but not ever showing any consistent evidence.
Yeah, it looks like 3d engines are the main thing I would have to tinker with. I would imagine game logic coding and tool coding is not altogether really much different than anything else I do now. Maybe I will mess with some 2D-like engines also, to mess with casual game ideas (another favorite of mine, popcap-like games).
How hard is it to get into the game development field for a programmer who has done 15 years of programming, but not game programming (for example in my case: desktop and web development (2/3rds desktop development) doing all sort of languages (my strongest being, these days, C#, C++, and (unfortunately, and outdated) VB 6). Have a 4-year Computer Science degree from University of Tulsa (got it in 93) and been programming ever since.
I was curious on the feedback (if at all to my query). I have always been interested in the game development field... i just ended up doing classic IT and business desktop software over the years as the job availability in the area I lived was basically that (and was kinda tied to the area for a time). Now, I don't hat my current profession and specialties therein, just always looking at something new.
So why isn't one track at a time NOT considered "music" as opposed to a whole album? Why can't a single song be "long term"? Is it not music, are there not "memorable songs" as well as "memorable albums"? Sorry, there ARE lot of shit albums out there (which is subjective), with only one or two good songs. I've wasted money on overpriced discs to find out "damn, this song is good... rest is crap". There are good overall albums too, harder to find and be satisfied with the purchase. To me, I'm not an album listener, I am a song listener. My mood is set by specific songs and not by listening to a whole album (there are a rare couple of albums that has to be listened as a whole, but, IMO, few and far between), where I tend to skip tracks on anyways because I want to listen to specific songs. Single-song-mix-n-match works great for me. I'm not alone; most people that *I* know are that way also... not to say they represent the majority, but certainly is NOT uncommon. Which leads to why iTunes has done so incredibly well.
I don't think th GP was intentionally lumping you in that group (if he said "ALL Consumers" then that may have been stretching it). Most HALFWAY reasonable people know when they make such statements that there are always others NOT like that. Unless, you just *had* to shout out and let everyone know your listening habits (just like I just *had* to shout out explaining the GP post and THEN sharing my listening habits).
While i want my house CLEAN - it is about as organized as any insane emu on acid would have anything organized. i mean i will clean house, but if i find a stack of papers or books or CDs, the just go into a stack. also, i don't hold on to a lot of things, i give away and throw away a lot of crap i don't use or need. that being said, clutter doesn't bother me that much. filth, on the other hand, bothers me.
(what I meant by "extending the Mayan calender beyond 12/21/2012", of course I meant extending it beyond the equivalent Gregorian date of 12/21/2012, I hope that was clear)
I always thought was a crock. People who believe this always say "Then why does it end on 12/21/2012??? It must be significant!" My answer: "Well, the calendar's got to end somewhere. My calendar ends on 12/12/2007. OH NOES! WE GONNA DIES!"
Anyone can extend the Gregorian calendar as we know the rules on how to continue that calendar (hence why we get 2008 calendars). I'm sure, if someone really wanted to, that the Mayan calendar *could be EXTENDED* beyond 12/21/2012 as well. Doing so would be academic, as probably no one uses the Mayan calendar for everyday use.
I mean c'mon, there's not a patch for Windows yet that lets me use it.
In fairness, the GP *WAS* talking about analog 'recordings' versus digital - and in that sense, the GP is absolutely correct. Yes, there is digital tape storage, and that is something else completely. because all archiving wasn't always about digital. it was old audio recordings (vinyl or analog tape), paper, microfiche, etc...
As much as one can hate the IRS, they offer *seemingly* endless ways to work thru or around the deadline. They know not everything IS the taxpayers fault (except for not filing anything).
Wrong PRAM Apple's PRAM = Parameter RAM Today's PRAM (the one being demoed by Intel) = Phase-Change RAM They are not the same technologies
Well, YOU certainly noticed those "gay" names... mission accomplished!
Plus I think Bioware is in way more control of their title's publishing. They can afford to put $$ into their own productions making only themselves (primarily) as a factor in deadlines. Obsidian still has to have other companies to bankroll their projects and distribute their good, and thus, must answer to their bankroller involving direction and deadlines. Bioware USED to be that way (think the glory days of Interplay, when Bioware made BG I + II and MDK2 for Interplay - for starters).
I've followed this for some time. Unfortunately, I have to agree, it's just been stagnant with minute releases over time. Once in a while (once or twice?) they got fed up and "redid the engine", effectively destroying what work they had done. :(
pfft... Must be young-uns or something incomprehensible about thems peoples. I have been using the term CRPG since the 80s.
As the parent of you post mentioned and your comments about perception, you are both on to something. It's true, most people will think the "new version of Windows" is just fine, as most people just want to play simple games, write documents, maybe a little spreadsheeting, browse the intarwebs, and get their email. Beyond that, you are getting closer to the realm of the power users.
The Average Joe won't care as long as it works and less vulnerabilities from the last OS version (which I'm sure Vista - and to a lesser degree, IE7 - delivers to some degree).
The belly-achers (like me, I am REALY REALLY leary on moving to Vista any time soon, XP works just *fine* for me now) are in a minority.
and I love doing both, as long as I have decent tools to do either with.
.NET front ends and legacy C++ backends in a mix of multiple versions of MFC and .NET - argh - which makes it unbearable at times, but only on the app I currently work on.
For example, I have done desktop development for over 10 years, I am more experienced at it and easier to make a usable UI. Drawbacks: harder to build and test, but easier to step debug - unfortunately, my current employer has a MESS of a desktop app full of
Web apps, I have only done for about 5-6 years tops, however the UI flexibility is less powerful, the "stateless" state of doing web programming is a bit more of a challenge. Easier to set up and get running fast, harder to step debug (unless you have just the right dev environment) and can be VERY hair raising. Oddly enough I am doing a contract job for a company right now, purely in ASP.NET 2.0 (C#) and I am having a blast. However, I AM fortunate to be able to build from the ground up so I know what everything is doing.
In *MY* opinion, "real men" don't care if they or anyone else says "fuck". The word is only as ugly or violent as you want it to be. (Admittedly, the effect of the word does have significant impact on other people, because they let that word bother them, luckily for me a *majority* of people I communicate with regularly (not all, mind you) are reallt affected by that word much, nor does it affect me much.)
However, ultimately, that is an opinion. I love how people make statements that at least comes off as absolute definitions on what is a "real man", like they are an expert on the subject (or whatnot). You have about as much as a clue as the rest of us. Plus, once you get on in the years (I don't know about your specific age, as can only ascertain an age range based on your past experience of arcades and such), at least to me, the idea of defining such terms becomes even less and less important.
I grew up in arcades in the 80s. I had my 2600 and home Pong machine (standard issue in suburbia). I found Sin City a fantastic move (and graphic novel) and Doom was a groundbreaking achievement in computer gaming. I say my share of the word "fuck" (and many many many other words); I like ultra-violent movies just for the sheer audacity of them; I like a good comedy; and I like realistic gaming with violence as well as a good game of Zuma or a good platformer.
I don't know what a "real man" is - I keep seeing and reading about and hearing guys talking about what it is, but not ever showing any consistent evidence.
get your finger ready on the ECM and make a run for it!!!!! maybe you'll have enough fuel to the next system!
sex, money and kinks? SIGN ME UP!!! :)
I can do without suburbia, however...
hmm: "Seumas (6865)"
You're kidding, right?
oh oh oh, i get it now... stand alone unit; yeah that's a rip-off in ANY sense of the word
$180??? try $80... the current premium xbox360 runs $399. (is $180 more than the CORE system, tho, if that is what you meant)
Yeah, it looks like 3d engines are the main thing I would have to tinker with. I would imagine game logic coding and tool coding is not altogether really much different than anything else I do now. Maybe I will mess with some 2D-like engines also, to mess with casual game ideas (another favorite of mine, popcap-like games).
(if anyone answers : )
How hard is it to get into the game development field for a programmer who has done 15 years of programming, but not game programming (for example in my case: desktop and web development (2/3rds desktop development) doing all sort of languages (my strongest being, these days, C#, C++, and (unfortunately, and outdated) VB 6). Have a 4-year Computer Science degree from University of Tulsa (got it in 93) and been programming ever since.
I was curious on the feedback (if at all to my query). I have always been interested in the game development field... i just ended up doing classic IT and business desktop software over the years as the job availability in the area I lived was basically that (and was kinda tied to the area for a time). Now, I don't hat my current profession and specialties therein, just always looking at something new.
"but there's bias and there's bias"
... "bias" - BOTH THE SAME FREAKING WORD!
I have never gotten these little statements... "bias"
So why isn't one track at a time NOT considered "music" as opposed to a whole album? Why can't a single song be "long term"? Is it not music, are there not "memorable songs" as well as "memorable albums"? Sorry, there ARE lot of shit albums out there (which is subjective), with only one or two good songs. I've wasted money on overpriced discs to find out "damn, this song is good... rest is crap". There are good overall albums too, harder to find and be satisfied with the purchase. To me, I'm not an album listener, I am a song listener. My mood is set by specific songs and not by listening to a whole album (there are a rare couple of albums that has to be listened as a whole, but, IMO, few and far between), where I tend to skip tracks on anyways because I want to listen to specific songs. Single-song-mix-n-match works great for me. I'm not alone; most people that *I* know are that way also... not to say they represent the majority, but certainly is NOT uncommon. Which leads to why iTunes has done so incredibly well.
I don't think th GP was intentionally lumping you in that group (if he said "ALL Consumers" then that may have been stretching it). Most HALFWAY reasonable people know when they make such statements that there are always others NOT like that. Unless, you just *had* to shout out and let everyone know your listening habits (just like I just *had* to shout out explaining the GP post and THEN sharing my listening habits).
Yeah, .NET 2.0 has some improved thread functionality/libraries - still works the same, just access to a bit more stuff
While i want my house CLEAN - it is about as organized as any insane emu on acid would have anything organized. i mean i will clean house, but if i find a stack of papers or books or CDs, the just go into a stack. also, i don't hold on to a lot of things, i give away and throw away a lot of crap i don't use or need. that being said, clutter doesn't bother me that much. filth, on the other hand, bothers me.
(what I meant by "extending the Mayan calender beyond 12/21/2012", of course I meant extending it beyond the equivalent Gregorian date of 12/21/2012, I hope that was clear)
I always thought was a crock. People who believe this always say "Then why does it end on 12/21/2012??? It must be significant!" My answer: "Well, the calendar's got to end somewhere. My calendar ends on 12/12/2007. OH NOES! WE GONNA DIES!"
Anyone can extend the Gregorian calendar as we know the rules on how to continue that calendar (hence why we get 2008 calendars). I'm sure, if someone really wanted to, that the Mayan calendar *could be EXTENDED* beyond 12/21/2012 as well. Doing so would be academic, as probably no one uses the Mayan calendar for everyday use.
I mean c'mon, there's not a patch for Windows yet that lets me use it.
Would the answer:
...be moderated higher? Because that is how I would have answered the question.
"Yes. Yes."
Plus Gabe(Mike) did say they jumped the gun on the showing of the 3D graphics - it is in it's very early stages
In fairness, the GP *WAS* talking about analog 'recordings' versus digital - and in that sense, the GP is absolutely correct. Yes, there is digital tape storage, and that is something else completely. because all archiving wasn't always about digital. it was old audio recordings (vinyl or analog tape), paper, microfiche, etc...