*especially if you really know how to play the song* Oh this is such the truth. All the songs I screw up on when playing GH2 are songs I know. Keep wanting to play the fast little notes and they're ignored by the game.
VII was my second with FFT being my first. In comparison VII was a major let down for me. I felt it was over rated and I had a hard time giving a crap about any of the characters. Now this is coming from someone who grew up playing and beating Dragon Warrior 1-4 and Phantasy 1-4 amongst other RPGs so I'm no stranger to the genre. The one I ended up liking the most out of the main series was FFIX because I cared about the characters. With VII I could have cared less if Cloud saved the world or not, in fact, I was hoping it'd pull an anime style ending and kill his ass dead.
Yes, the one constant with FF fans is they can't agree on which is the best. My favorite is FFT with FFIX being my favorite in the main series and FFXI rounding out my top three.
As for why I like them (and RPGs in general) is while I like the story, I like getting to explore a new world even more. Tis one of the drawbacks for FFX for me. While the story wasn't too bad I wish I actually got to wander off the beaten path as it were.
Hmmm, I was thinking what would make a fun track more than "what would the masses know." There's enough songs on GH2 that I don't know them from anywhere else as it is.
Few comments, Genesis - Tonight X3 wouldn't be a good choice anyway, it's mostly percussion. Land of Confusion would be a much better choice. As for Chicago, too many songs to choose from for me (they're one of my favorite bands) but Stay the Night would be fun. But since we've got "I Ran" lets get some more new wave. I want Gary Numan - Cars (or Are Friends Electric?), how about Oingo Boingo - Nothing to Fear, or Only a Lad. The B-52's, would invariably be Love Shack even though I'd rather see something off Whammy! or Bouncing off the Satellites. Some Peter Gabriel like Big Time, Sledgehammer, or Shock the Monkey would be awesome too.
I'm probably going to end up keeping my silly fake guitar for this one since they've already got a few songs on that list I like...
Yeah, what you'll know is that it's a hokey old school RPG that did not stand the test of time. This is from someone who grew up on Phantasy Star and Dragon Warrior. Oh, and I'm logged in to FFXI right now with FFIV, IX, X, X-2, XII, Tactics and Tactics Advance sitting on my self.
If I were to suggest one to go out and play to a PC gamer, it would probably be none of them. I don't think they'd be his cup of tea at all.
While I'm not who you are replying to, yes I have no interest in playing GTA:SA because I have no desire at all to pretend to be a black gansta. I have no "appreciation" for that culture.
Indeed. I don't get why everyone thinks what Carmack says is fucking gospel. I can't even name a single game he's created. Go ahead and flame me but I don't get why he thinks he's so bad ass. I atleast know who the hell Miyamoto is and what he's done. Hell I even know more about what Al Lowe has done over this jerk.
Last time I had cashier training we were told that if the person looked under 27 we should card them for alcohol and cigs.
Unlike some other posters in this thread, I don't see much of a problem with this. I wish they'd bother looking at ID on credit card purchases too. Those new self swiping registers make it oh so much easier to make use of that stolen card.
I have to agree. I like that I can plow through a Mega Man (regular or X) game in a two or three nights of game play. But I also have a back log now of about four or five RPGs I want to play. I know damn well they're 40+ hours long and to me, it's too damn long since I go to college. I've had FFXII since it came out and won't start it until atleast winter break which is almost here. An ideal length for an RPG for me is 25 to no more than 40 hours. I remember playing all of Phantasy Star 3 in one day when I was sick a few years ago. I had played it many times before, sure, but I was able to enjoy the whole game once again without having to devote my life to it to remember what was going on with the plot.
And then you have parents like mine that are fairly early adopters but hadn't even heard of Blu-Ray until I mentioned it being in the PS3 when they announced their price point a few months back.
Has anyone bothered to sit down with a friend and play co-op? I'm talking running through the levels together, none of this deathmatch shit. It's really quite fun and alot more enjoyable than playing the game one player. This is coming from someone who doesn't tend to like or play FPSes.
Now I don't know how BGs go after the cross server update they did a while back, but when I played it you could sit around with your thumb up your ass waiting for any BG to start for hours and then when you did get in it'd be 3 alliance versus 10 horde. Joy oh joy.
think it was you who left the videogame industry behind. Unorginality plagued the 16-bit era, everything was a platformer or sidescroll shooter. We all grow up, and remember only the fun and originally games, forgetting about the bland uninspired derivatives that occupied most of the store shelves.
I hate this argument. I remember those awful games. Games like Bayou Billy or Splatterhouse. Just because such genres as "platformer" or "sidescroller/shooter" are old or had games in those genres that were poor that as a genre they are no longer valid. If this were the case no one would be buying a new FF game cause there's some damn piss poor RPGs out there.
It has nothing to do with "nostalgia" (we all know that's what you were thinking) but has everything to do with prefering a particular genre. I don't like FPSes, I won't buy them. I do like platformers. They don't even have to be 15 years old, they can be new ones on the DS for instance.
The thing is is that whenever anyone mentions anything that's older than the current generation they're branded as being "blinded" by nostalgia. For people like me who still play 2D platformers, shooters and other such styles of games there's not much to be nostalgic about when nostalgia requires you to have not been involved in something for quite some time.
I'm really starting to think these essential anti-2D posts are made by people who grew up with either a PSX or a PS2 and think the older games are just goofy fuddy-duddy stuff that they've only played on emulators. Yeah, there's alot of crap 8-bit and 16 bit games. Guess what, there's piles of crap PSX games and PS2 games as well. Tends to be like that with everything, be it games, music, movies, books, etc. So please, next time you feel the need to open your mouth and imply the N word, do the world a favor and keep that opinion to yourself.
The problem is is that the manga style was there from the 8-bit days. Go check out Phantasy Star or Wonder Boy in Monsterland. Phantasy Star II or Mega Man X comes to mind for 16-bit off the top of my head. The only difference is back then we didn't know it was manga style and that the graphics weren't that lovely.
I think the problem people currently have against manga style in games is really due to our awareness of its original and the comparision with its original source, the manga itself. Some people love the hell out of them, others don't. I like anime myself, but I agree, I don't need to have all my video games looking like anime (or manga) characters. But you've got to keep in mind that a vast majority of the games we play come from Japan and that is the overhelming standard of pop culture art. It's kind of like asking why all the Cartoon Network original shows have that "drawn by a 6 year old" look. Just happens to be the prevailing style. You can either look past it or you can just not bother with games with that asthetic.
If you really are bothered with it, you can get PC games. They still seem to be mostly made by Non-Japanese. Though I still think Oblivion's characters look horrible. *ducks*
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I wouldn't mind seeing an FFT style system replace the Fight/Magic/Defend/Item system of random encounters.
VII was my second with FFT being my first. In comparison VII was a major let down for me. I felt it was over rated and I had a hard time giving a crap about any of the characters. Now this is coming from someone who grew up playing and beating Dragon Warrior 1-4 and Phantasy 1-4 amongst other RPGs so I'm no stranger to the genre. The one I ended up liking the most out of the main series was FFIX because I cared about the characters. With VII I could have cared less if Cloud saved the world or not, in fact, I was hoping it'd pull an anime style ending and kill his ass dead.
Yes, the one constant with FF fans is they can't agree on which is the best. My favorite is FFT with FFIX being my favorite in the main series and FFXI rounding out my top three.
As for why I like them (and RPGs in general) is while I like the story, I like getting to explore a new world even more. Tis one of the drawbacks for FFX for me. While the story wasn't too bad I wish I actually got to wander off the beaten path as it were.
Hmmm, I was thinking what would make a fun track more than "what would the masses know." There's enough songs on GH2 that I don't know them from anywhere else as it is.
Few comments, Genesis - Tonight X3 wouldn't be a good choice anyway, it's mostly percussion. Land of Confusion would be a much better choice. As for Chicago, too many songs to choose from for me (they're one of my favorite bands) but Stay the Night would be fun. But since we've got "I Ran" lets get some more new wave. I want Gary Numan - Cars (or Are Friends Electric?), how about Oingo Boingo - Nothing to Fear, or Only a Lad. The B-52's, would invariably be Love Shack even though I'd rather see something off Whammy! or Bouncing off the Satellites. Some Peter Gabriel like Big Time, Sledgehammer, or Shock the Monkey would be awesome too.
I'm probably going to end up keeping my silly fake guitar for this one since they've already got a few songs on that list I like...
I would rate this one up for informative if I had the mod points.
Yeah, what you'll know is that it's a hokey old school RPG that did not stand the test of time. This is from someone who grew up on Phantasy Star and Dragon Warrior. Oh, and I'm logged in to FFXI right now with FFIV, IX, X, X-2, XII, Tactics and Tactics Advance sitting on my self. If I were to suggest one to go out and play to a PC gamer, it would probably be none of them. I don't think they'd be his cup of tea at all.
Huh, I didn't know Thirteen was out already. Must have missed that.
While I'm not who you are replying to, yes I have no interest in playing GTA:SA because I have no desire at all to pretend to be a black gansta. I have no "appreciation" for that culture.
Indeed. I don't get why everyone thinks what Carmack says is fucking gospel. I can't even name a single game he's created. Go ahead and flame me but I don't get why he thinks he's so bad ass. I atleast know who the hell Miyamoto is and what he's done. Hell I even know more about what Al Lowe has done over this jerk.
Last time I had cashier training we were told that if the person looked under 27 we should card them for alcohol and cigs. Unlike some other posters in this thread, I don't see much of a problem with this. I wish they'd bother looking at ID on credit card purchases too. Those new self swiping registers make it oh so much easier to make use of that stolen card.
I have to agree. I like that I can plow through a Mega Man (regular or X) game in a two or three nights of game play. But I also have a back log now of about four or five RPGs I want to play. I know damn well they're 40+ hours long and to me, it's too damn long since I go to college. I've had FFXII since it came out and won't start it until atleast winter break which is almost here. An ideal length for an RPG for me is 25 to no more than 40 hours. I remember playing all of Phantasy Star 3 in one day when I was sick a few years ago. I had played it many times before, sure, but I was able to enjoy the whole game once again without having to devote my life to it to remember what was going on with the plot.
And then you have parents like mine that are fairly early adopters but hadn't even heard of Blu-Ray until I mentioned it being in the PS3 when they announced their price point a few months back.
Has anyone bothered to sit down with a friend and play co-op? I'm talking running through the levels together, none of this deathmatch shit. It's really quite fun and alot more enjoyable than playing the game one player. This is coming from someone who doesn't tend to like or play FPSes.
Now I don't know how BGs go after the cross server update they did a while back, but when I played it you could sit around with your thumb up your ass waiting for any BG to start for hours and then when you did get in it'd be 3 alliance versus 10 horde. Joy oh joy.
Now I wish I hadn't used up my mod points yesterday. The parent is dead on.
Thompson needs to stop projecting his sick mind on the masses.
I hate to disapoint you but I play MMORPGs to escape reality due in part to depression. I'm considering reinstalling FFXI to do just that in fact.
So if I want to play Portal is it an expansion so I have to buy HL2 or is this a stand alone title?
I hate this argument. I remember those awful games. Games like Bayou Billy or Splatterhouse. Just because such genres as "platformer" or "sidescroller/shooter" are old or had games in those genres that were poor that as a genre they are no longer valid. If this were the case no one would be buying a new FF game cause there's some damn piss poor RPGs out there.
It has nothing to do with "nostalgia" (we all know that's what you were thinking) but has everything to do with prefering a particular genre. I don't like FPSes, I won't buy them. I do like platformers. They don't even have to be 15 years old, they can be new ones on the DS for instance.
The thing is is that whenever anyone mentions anything that's older than the current generation they're branded as being "blinded" by nostalgia. For people like me who still play 2D platformers, shooters and other such styles of games there's not much to be nostalgic about when nostalgia requires you to have not been involved in something for quite some time.
I'm really starting to think these essential anti-2D posts are made by people who grew up with either a PSX or a PS2 and think the older games are just goofy fuddy-duddy stuff that they've only played on emulators. Yeah, there's alot of crap 8-bit and 16 bit games. Guess what, there's piles of crap PSX games and PS2 games as well. Tends to be like that with everything, be it games, music, movies, books, etc. So please, next time you feel the need to open your mouth and imply the N word, do the world a favor and keep that opinion to yourself.
No, that was the Two Guys from Andromeda that did Space Quest, better known as Scott Murphy and Mark Crowe.
The problem is is that the manga style was there from the 8-bit days. Go check out Phantasy Star or Wonder Boy in Monsterland. Phantasy Star II or Mega Man X comes to mind for 16-bit off the top of my head. The only difference is back then we didn't know it was manga style and that the graphics weren't that lovely.
I think the problem people currently have against manga style in games is really due to our awareness of its original and the comparision with its original source, the manga itself. Some people love the hell out of them, others don't. I like anime myself, but I agree, I don't need to have all my video games looking like anime (or manga) characters. But you've got to keep in mind that a vast majority of the games we play come from Japan and that is the overhelming standard of pop culture art. It's kind of like asking why all the Cartoon Network original shows have that "drawn by a 6 year old" look. Just happens to be the prevailing style. You can either look past it or you can just not bother with games with that asthetic.
If you really are bothered with it, you can get PC games. They still seem to be mostly made by Non-Japanese. Though I still think Oblivion's characters look horrible. *ducks*