Microsoft is already committed to supported Windows 2000 until **** 2010 ****.
All this article says is that Windows 2000 will not get a pop-up blocker and an add-on manager.
Mod this fellow up, if you bother to read the article you will see the post is correct. It specifically says security updates will be released, just not the sp2 "security enhancements." Didn't sp2 get some kind of protections against buffer overruns at a low level? that's what won't be backported.
What I would call an archievement would be a KDE GUI that wouldn't feel like being VLC'ed over 40kb/s modem connection on my p4-2.8/512/MatroxG400DH desktop.
I don't know what's wrong with your computer, my athxp2500+/512/gf4ti4600 runs kde3 a whooole lot faster and more responsive than winxp.
perhaps that is a crappy video card (I've never met a good matrox although i've heard they're out there) or you're running redhat/fedora.
wow that is awesome...I had no idea...I would like to clarify that the mission of CS courses at GT is to "teach concepts," not to "learn languages". Hence my first CS course (august of 1999...still have another year of my undergrad...I am lazy) being taught using only pseudo code. I learned the concepts, sure, but the class would have been a lot more fun had we been using Python.
At my job I work about half in C++ and half in Python...and it is a joy to use. I used to hate it and would only code in Perl...but those days are long gone. Perhaps perl6 will be better, but I find these days that I can't stand to touch perl code. Converting ~10 Perl files to python (Palm's Palm Emulator & Simulator come with a Perl interface, Keith was supposed to distribute my python version with all new Emulator versions buuuut....) was a huge pain due to perl's built-in obfuscation, not to mention its bad "global variable" habits... Python is still annoying in its lack of for (only having foreach, named for) and do loops, forced indentation (tabs vs spaces problem, non-deterministic if spacing gets messed up), and self being a required argument for every class method...but it's still amazing. Its interactive interpreter is probably the most useful application I have installed on my machine at work. Even when I'm on a C++ project I keep a python interpreter open to prototype and test code segments, convert between different display formats of numbers, generate utf-8 unicode strings, quickly start an interactive TCP socket server or client, do bitwise arithmetic, general math problems, generate test files on the fly, do data conversion....it's a programmer's best friend.
Python, with the help of its large standard library, makes writing applications incredibly fast. Last week I was assigned a small project which was to send large amounts of email for stress-testing purposes based on data found in XML files and inputs from the program's user. Nothing hard, but it involved xml parsing, speaking SMTP, Unicode, and a GUI. I recommended python, and it was done in 5 hours...with almost 2 hours of that spent on trying to figure out which smtp servers accepted what forms of Unicode encoding and how quirky they were about Content-types and charsets. Perhaps some ub3r-r33t C++ haX0r could do it in 5 hours in C++...but I'd be surprised. And, as always, if performance is a critical issue for some portion, writing a class in C++ and wrapping it as a python class with SWIG is about as painless as can be.
Perl isn't a terrible language, and it's spawned some great things (PCRE > *; also I tend to think PHP was inspired in large part by Perl and it's pretty awesome for web applications); I also admire Larry Wall a lot. But if you enjoy coding and haven't tried Python out yet, give it a shot.
As a journalist, I know how you feel. I hate it when a magazine says "and we want this article in English, please". I mean, I tell them, look, it's much easier to discuss this subject in Chinese, and it'll come in at half the length too - look at all that space you could save! Look, you'd free up two whole pages you could sell advertising on! You'd get a better article and make more profit too!
But they say no, we want it in English, none of our staff speak Chinese. Man, is that unreasonable or what?
ummm look at "Web Browsers Used to Access Google" and you'll see MSIE6 go down in the past few months (all other versions of IE have been dropping for a long time) and a rise of "other" browsers for a good year or so
no kidding I got one for $15, I should have picked up another before they sold out. I bought some great games like sonic adventure, and downloaded a ton....sonic adventure 2, san fran rush 2049, sword of the berserk, powerball 2....
who cares if the graphics aren't as good as Now-gen consoles...there's some great games. not to mention cds full of SNES games and such
I play carnage blender...so I'm definitely not antagonistic towards you
but you're definitely wrong...I saw "INCREDIBLE interface" and I groaned because I want the best, and I've just completed the arduous task of migrating to gmail. I opened the oddwhatever link and saw a 3 pane interface...and sighed in relief. It's not an incredible interface, however technically advanced it may be.
I think it's like saying William Hung is an incredible singer, when what you mean is that the amount of fame is incredible...
Google's is fast. Very fast. So much so that I am tending to use it more than even my local POP based mail program.
amen
I have my own email server, with a few other users...it's sitting right beside me on a 100mbit lan. I access it with imap (no ssl) with thunderbird on a fast machine. Gmail is way faster...it's sad.
Now my first.procmailrc entry is: :0 c
* !^From: MAILER-DAEMON@mydomain.com
!myname@gmail.com
So it's forwarding all my mail to my gmail acct before spamassassin...so far Gmail has only missed one spam, and caught all the others. I think pretty soon I'll have to resubscribe to everything and change the first line of my.procmailrc to:0: (to forward my emails and not even keep a local copy of them). Gmail is just most excellent.
Things it needs:
remote API for checking for new mail (so's somebody can write a KDE systray mail checker)
GPG support...at least signing, if not encryption
Konqueror support (can't even login, konq/kde 3.2.1)
partial word search...right now it only matches whole words, apparently
hey...idiot...the poster was talking about the price of the auction...the opening bid is $100,000...he is saying "if somebody's already paying $100,000, the shipping cost of 100kg is probably not that big of a deal"
I had a teacher years ago in high school who would say, basically every day, "people just don't practice the basic skill of reeeaaadding"
I tried this....I could never really find a good CMS though. my family loves The Gallery. they've posted over 500 images on their dial-up connection. their friends and relatives (hmm well I guess they're my relatives too) like having a guestbook to put stuff in, so that's a decent feature. I tried for a while on the CMS thing...considered a wiki...but I eventually gave up. they never used the calendar, so it's sitting there stagnant. oh well. good luck.
I hate spammers, but this law is meaningless, as are ALL anti-spam laws:
exactly. I just wrote a fairly crappy (but I got a 100!) paper on this very topic. I've posted it before, but here it is again: http://www.progoth.com/spam/termpaper.html. I really do hate politics sometimes...
This has been a long time coming, I hope we're actually able to enforce it. Although, its going to be tough with all the world wide spam.
Is this really just fluff to impress voters? Or do you think it will actually carry any weight?
I just wrote a term paper about this (http://www.progoth.com/spam/termpaper.html). granted not the best paper ever, but you may gain some different viewpoints. basically anti-spam laws are trying to get people reelected while wasting taxpayer money and getting nothing done.
What? That is what he said! Kylix uses winelib! It looks like Windows! We aren't talking about Kylix-created programs here, we are talking about Kylix itself! The fact that Kylix-created programs use Qt is irrelevant. Kylix uses winelib; it looks like Windows! OK? I would prefer to avoid using programs that were ported using partially complete and somewhat unstable implementation of the Windows API and GUI. When I start a program, I do not want to see a message about "building font metrics." Does OpenOffice do this? Mozilla? Sun's JDK? Majesty? Kohan? Maple?
I'm just quoting this person because he's AC and scored 0. but he said what I would. I know kylix apps don't use wine, I've used one. Yes, only one. I'm a person who surfs freshmeat all the time and tries out everything that sounds remotely interesting, and in all these years I've only found one kylix-written app. and I had to install some silly runtime libraries.
anyway, yes, kylix the IDE is written using winelib and that sucks.
kylix kind of sucks
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I think kylix didn't catch on for a few reasons
kylix was using winelib
linux users don't like using apps which were half-ported using a windows emulator (see wordperfect, winamp3)
better alternatives exist
you want to make gui apps? use the qt or kde libraries. use gtk even. you want a gui app in an easier language? use pyqt, pykde, or even pygtk. perl-gtk if you're really desperate. kylix doesn't offer anything over these. I personally made a few pyqt apps in a matter of hours (see pysp), how much easier can it get?
external libraries
who wants to distribute 40 megs of libraries with their application? I don't remember exactly how many libraries kylix need[s|ed], but it was fairly stupid
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I signed up to download kylix, and I started getting flyers in my mailbox (my physical mailbox) from borland. nobody wants that.
it worked perfectly in xine, without all the hassle of dealing with mplayer. actually ok I just tried it in mplayer 0.91 and it actually worked. I've been wrestling with mplayer for a long time fruitlessly. if I could even get it to play it would split across my monitors in fullscreen mode. it even looked better (xine had a green line at the bottom of the video). good job to the mplayer team. I'll still take xine and my remote and dvd menus though:)
anyway, on the topic at hand, I was excited at this trailer. I, like most everyone else, felt pretty letdown after reloaded or whatever they called it, but revolutions looks pretty cool. I don't know, something about that giant spiky head makes me all tingly inside:)
lets hope they can keep this one free of retarded sex scenes.
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Microsoft is already committed to supported Windows 2000 until **** 2010 ****.
All this article says is that Windows 2000 will not get a pop-up blocker and an add-on manager.
Mod this fellow up, if you bother to read the article you will see the post is correct. It specifically says security updates will be released, just not the sp2 "security enhancements." Didn't sp2 get some kind of protections against buffer overruns at a low level? that's what won't be backported.
Colmes (5). He wants to be a Liberal, but he's too much of a pussy and alwasy acquiesces.
umm... what do you think the definition of a liberal is?
What I would call an archievement would be a KDE GUI that wouldn't feel like being VLC'ed over 40kb/s modem connection on my p4-2.8/512/MatroxG400DH desktop.
I don't know what's wrong with your computer, my athxp2500+/512/gf4ti4600 runs kde3 a whooole lot faster and more responsive than winxp.
perhaps that is a crappy video card (I've never met a good matrox although i've heard they're out there) or you're running redhat/fedora.
Man, you're an idiot. The supreme court regularly says that some laws (municipal, state, federal) are unconstitutional.
Laws are meaningless unless enforced. And the supreme court is the highest level of enforcement.
hey...IDIOT...the court is the legislative branch...enforcement is the job of the executive branch.
wow that is awesome...I had no idea...I would like to clarify that the mission of CS courses at GT is to "teach concepts," not to "learn languages". Hence my first CS course (august of 1999...still have another year of my undergrad...I am lazy) being taught using only pseudo code. I learned the concepts, sure, but the class would have been a lot more fun had we been using Python.
At my job I work about half in C++ and half in Python...and it is a joy to use. I used to hate it and would only code in Perl...but those days are long gone. Perhaps perl6 will be better, but I find these days that I can't stand to touch perl code. Converting ~10 Perl files to python (Palm's Palm Emulator & Simulator come with a Perl interface, Keith was supposed to distribute my python version with all new Emulator versions buuuut....) was a huge pain due to perl's built-in obfuscation, not to mention its bad "global variable" habits... Python is still annoying in its lack of for (only having foreach, named for) and do loops, forced indentation (tabs vs spaces problem, non-deterministic if spacing gets messed up), and self being a required argument for every class method...but it's still amazing. Its interactive interpreter is probably the most useful application I have installed on my machine at work. Even when I'm on a C++ project I keep a python interpreter open to prototype and test code segments, convert between different display formats of numbers, generate utf-8 unicode strings, quickly start an interactive TCP socket server or client, do bitwise arithmetic, general math problems, generate test files on the fly, do data conversion....it's a programmer's best friend.
Python, with the help of its large standard library, makes writing applications incredibly fast. Last week I was assigned a small project which was to send large amounts of email for stress-testing purposes based on data found in XML files and inputs from the program's user. Nothing hard, but it involved xml parsing, speaking SMTP, Unicode, and a GUI. I recommended python, and it was done in 5 hours...with almost 2 hours of that spent on trying to figure out which smtp servers accepted what forms of Unicode encoding and how quirky they were about Content-types and charsets. Perhaps some ub3r-r33t C++ haX0r could do it in 5 hours in C++...but I'd be surprised. And, as always, if performance is a critical issue for some portion, writing a class in C++ and wrapping it as a python class with SWIG is about as painless as can be.
Perl isn't a terrible language, and it's spawned some great things (PCRE > *; also I tend to think PHP was inspired in large part by Perl and it's pretty awesome for web applications); I also admire Larry Wall a lot. But if you enjoy coding and haven't tried Python out yet, give it a shot.
As a journalist, I know how you feel. I hate it when a magazine says "and we want this article in English, please". I mean, I tell them, look, it's much easier to discuss this subject in Chinese, and it'll come in at half the length too - look at all that space you could save! Look, you'd free up two whole pages you could sell advertising on! You'd get a better article and make more profit too!
But they say no, we want it in English, none of our staff speak Chinese. Man, is that unreasonable or what?
mod the AC up
ummm look at
"Web Browsers Used to Access Google" and you'll see MSIE6 go down in the past few months (all other versions of IE have been dropping for a long time) and a rise of "other" browsers for a good year or so
I've never needed more management than that - why would anyone? Seriously, I'm asking. :)
just use it for a couple of days...see if you don't love it
try out the tag editing also
no kidding I got one for $15, I should have picked up another before they sold out. I bought some great games like sonic adventure, and downloaded a ton....sonic adventure 2, san fran rush 2049, sword of the berserk, powerball 2....
who cares if the graphics aren't as good as Now-gen consoles...there's some great games. not to mention cds full of SNES games and such
I play carnage blender...so I'm definitely not antagonistic towards you
but you're definitely wrong...I saw "INCREDIBLE interface" and I groaned because I want the best, and I've just completed the arduous task of migrating to gmail. I opened the oddwhatever link and saw a 3 pane interface...and sighed in relief. It's not an incredible interface, however technically advanced it may be.
I think it's like saying William Hung is an incredible singer, when what you mean is that the amount of fame is incredible...
amen
I have my own email server, with a few other users...it's sitting right beside me on a 100mbit lan. I access it with imap (no ssl) with thunderbird on a fast machine. Gmail is way faster...it's sad.
Now my first .procmailrc entry is:
:0 c
* !^From: MAILER-DAEMON@mydomain.com
!myname@gmail.com
So it's forwarding all my mail to my gmail acct before spamassassin...so far Gmail has only missed one spam, and caught all the others. I think pretty soon I'll have to resubscribe to everything and change the first line of my .procmailrc to :0: (to forward my emails and not even keep a local copy of them). Gmail is just most excellent.
Things it needs:
hey...idiot...the poster was talking about the price of the auction...the opening bid is $100,000...he is saying "if somebody's already paying $100,000, the shipping cost of 100kg is probably not that big of a deal"
I had a teacher years ago in high school who would say, basically every day, "people just don't practice the basic skill of reeeaaadding"
why is your iCal date saying Jul17 ?
um, that's just the ical icon. when ical is running it'll change that icon to reflect the current date.
I remember seeing ads for this on tv, also around 8-10 years ago...but it was at a monster truck rally/show/whatever they're called.
I tried this....I could never really find a good CMS though. my family loves The Gallery. they've posted over 500 images on their dial-up connection. their friends and relatives (hmm well I guess they're my relatives too) like having a guestbook to put stuff in, so that's a decent feature. I tried for a while on the CMS thing...considered a wiki...but I eventually gave up. they never used the calendar, so it's sitting there stagnant. oh well. good luck.
I hate spammers, but this law is meaningless, as are ALL anti-spam laws:
exactly. I just wrote a fairly crappy (but I got a 100!) paper on this very topic. I've posted it before, but here it is again: http://www.progoth.com/spam/termpaper.html. I really do hate politics sometimes...
This has been a long time coming, I hope we're actually able to enforce it. Although, its going to be tough with all the world wide spam.
Is this really just fluff to impress voters? Or do you think it will actually carry any weight?
I just wrote a term paper about this (http://www.progoth.com/spam/termpaper.html). granted not the best paper ever, but you may gain some different viewpoints. basically anti-spam laws are trying to get people reelected while wasting taxpayer money and getting nothing done.
feeding the troll here...but...
= display&id=15#15
they're probably talking about this image: http://www.progoth.com/index.php?page=main&action
it was pretty funny...4 years ago...
What? That is what he said! Kylix uses winelib! It looks like Windows! We aren't talking about Kylix-created programs here, we are talking about Kylix itself! The fact that Kylix-created programs use Qt is irrelevant. Kylix uses winelib; it looks like Windows! OK? I would prefer to avoid using programs that were ported using partially complete and somewhat unstable implementation of the Windows API and GUI. When I start a program, I do not want to see a message about "building font metrics." Does OpenOffice do this? Mozilla? Sun's JDK? Majesty? Kohan? Maple?
I'm just quoting this person because he's AC and scored 0. but he said what I would. I know kylix apps don't use wine, I've used one. Yes, only one. I'm a person who surfs freshmeat all the time and tries out everything that sounds remotely interesting, and in all these years I've only found one kylix-written app. and I had to install some silly runtime libraries.
anyway, yes, kylix the IDE is written using winelib and that sucks.
linux users don't like using apps which were half-ported using a windows emulator (see wordperfect, winamp3)
you want to make gui apps? use the qt or kde libraries. use gtk even. you want a gui app in an easier language? use pyqt, pykde, or even pygtk. perl-gtk if you're really desperate. kylix doesn't offer anything over these. I personally made a few pyqt apps in a matter of hours (see pysp), how much easier can it get?
who wants to distribute 40 megs of libraries with their application? I don't remember exactly how many libraries kylix need[s|ed], but it was fairly stupid
I signed up to download kylix, and I started getting flyers in my mailbox (my physical mailbox) from borland. nobody wants that.
enough said
again...enaugh said
For example: internet explorer 6.0 runs at least 5 times faster UNDER WINE! then Konqueror or Opera.
NO WAY.
Prove it.
Firebird on my machine on windows is faster than IE6. Konq & Opera on my machine are both way faster than Firebird.
it worked perfectly in xine, without all the hassle of dealing with mplayer. actually ok I just tried it in mplayer 0.91 and it actually worked. I've been wrestling with mplayer for a long time fruitlessly. if I could even get it to play it would split across my monitors in fullscreen mode. it even looked better (xine had a green line at the bottom of the video). good job to the mplayer team. I'll still take xine and my remote and dvd menus though:)
anyway, on the topic at hand, I was excited at this trailer. I, like most everyone else, felt pretty letdown after reloaded or whatever they called it, but revolutions looks pretty cool. I don't know, something about that giant spiky head makes me all tingly inside:)
lets hope they can keep this one free of retarded sex scenes.
that would be Ogden Nash
reflections on ice breaking: candy is dandy, but liquor is quicker
children aren't happy with nothing to ignore, and that's what parents were created for
God in his wisdown created the fly
And then forgot to tell us why
etc etc
honestly, until these suckers run a nice free software gui i see no compelling reason to stop using palmos devices.
umm....ever heard of opie?
Right to use SCO IP in a Linux distribution
Promotional License Fee
with 1 CPU $699
let's think about this....they claim that they own IP in the linux kernel...FOR SMP....what does that have to do with 1 cpu systems??
this makes my head hurt