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neura writes "In quite possibly the largest console auction ever, someone is selling just about every development kit and production game console ever made in Japan. They also have listed tons (almost literally) of software to go along with the systems. Anybody ever seen the original Super Famicom development system? The pictures alone are worth taking a gander. :)"
Let's get this out of the way:
1) This guy is the most dedicated console collector the world has ever seen!
2) This guy is the most fucked up collector the world has ever seen!
3) Imagine a Beowulf Cluster made out of them...
4) (Obligatory MS dig for the white Xbox at the end)
5) (Obligatory all you base belong to us joke)
6) Sure, but don't they support Ogg!
7) In Soviet Russia, the consoles buy you!
8) I have an Atari 2600, you insensitive clod!
9) Let's get this out of the way
10) ???
11) Not Profit!
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And just think... if only 3 people ever play it, it will have been the most successful 3DO game in the console's entire history!!!
HIGH BIDDER HAVE TO HELP FOR SHIPMENT & PAY ALL SHIPPING FEE, DUE TO ALL ITEMS MIGHT OVER 100KGs !!! HIGH BIDDER MAY HAVE TO PAY SOME THOUSAND US$ FOR SHIPMENT
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that's gonna be one hell of a shipping cost. it may be cheaper to rent a ship and go to hong kong to pick it up yourself
i guess if you are willing to pay 100k it may not be a big deal.
Marge, get me your address book, 4 beers, and my conversation hat.
good lord, who actually needs all that stuff?
The dude is selling this for $100,000 starting price. That's pretty insane. Unless you're a store wanting to resell this in a 3rd world country (even then, it'll be hard), you're not going to make your money back.
Truly this is only for the insanely obsessed console freaks.
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But that's just me. Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh well.
..but I wonder how much more he would have made if he'd listed each item individually, instead of a bulk lot? It'd be a fair bit of work (not massive, since he's already got the details for most of the items), but you think it'd probably be worth it.
"..INTERNATIONAL BONK TO BANK TRANSFER.."
I wish my bank offered Bonking services - maybe I wouldn't moan about their monthly fees if they did.
A dream is good. A plan is better.
Thank you for posting the address of the auction. If for nothing else it is worth looking at because of the photos as you indicated. Now if I only had an extra $100K laying around... hrm...
Oh yeah, and potential bidders, please note: He only accepts a "BONK TO BANK TRANSFER"... I don't know what a "BONK" is, must be some sort of Japanese institution. I'll ask my friend, he knows Japanese. Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooh well.
For a collection that large, I'd spend $100K any day.
Watch out, the seller is from Hong Kong...this could be a trap! Maybe it's all pirated/junk hw in cool boxes! ;P
1) Buy this whole kit and kaboodle for $100K
2) Open the most bitching video game museum ever
say it with me now
3) PROFIT!!!
Seriously, I would easily pay $10 or $20 to see some of this stuff. This is probably the best chance an existing computer museum has to get a piece of console history in one fell swoop.
Of course, it's not like this guy couldn't have been so dedicated as to milk phones from a zillion different auctions and make up this whole thing as a prank.
- JoeShmoe
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I don't know... that wine wasn't tested before storage.
This guy wants $100,000 US for this? Ok, so it's a serious collection worth serious money. Perhaps he should've realized that 'spelling' is important on something like this. For $100k I want the seller to understand business, he's likely never to come across money like this again. So let's just get this straight - there is no such system as the "Sega Deramcast."
Some of you might say "with that collection he can spell everything however he wants." I'm sorry, but when you ask for that much money for ANYTHING, you can not make yourself look like a first grade jackass.
And yes, the pictures are quite 'purdy.'
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editor, f13.net
The images are coming from his own web site, which is now slashdotted.
Nice. Just a few more university japanese courses so I can read the development manuals, a couple (or 80) grand to hustle up before the auction ends, and my ultimate goal of porting Mary-Kate & Ashley: Magical Mystery Mall to every system ever made can be realized.
I'll gladly pay for it through my escrow account. ;)
Although notice all the images are hosted on the seller's homepage, sdk-team. So it's not eBay, it's his (or his company's) site :P
Imagine there'd be a geek with money. I know, that's very rare, but still... Wouldn't that said geek with money be interested to know there's another geek w/o money but with a ton of geek stuff waiting to be sold? There's your /. story.
/. for helping keeping the money in the family.
Thank you
Bitten Apples are still better than dirty Windows...
If the guy really wanted to make money, he should have:
1. Sold them individually
2. Set up some kind of "viewing center" and charge admission. There are plenty of hardcore gamers and just plain curious people that would shell out $10 to check out his collection.
Seriously guys, why does e-bay seem to be the second most interesting thing on this site? My conspiracy theory about /. and ebay
I was the same thing, mostly with the development and obscure stuff. For example, I imagine there would be alot of people in the current Dreamcast homebrew/emulation scene who would pay a bit for that DC development machine, not to mention the emulation types who might like some of the older development tools there.
As far as I know, the development kits are still Sony's property - they're understandably rather touchy about their intellectual property and would not want such a machine to fall into the hands of the general public. Specifically: I thought all development machines were still owned by Sony, you just pay for being able to use them.
I would not be suprised if he receives a visit from Sony's lawyers demanding the return of their development hardware...
The pictures alone are worth taking a gander.
:P
Yeah, if we could see them...
That truly is a mighty console collection, although it's clear that this auction probably has better retro value, and is more affordable. Tis pity it's bigger than my house... :-(.
Hell at $100,000.00 US this is quite a bargain. ;)
I mean the Hello Kitty LE Dreamcast alone is worth it's weight in Gold. But with the N64 Pikachi-orange Limited Edition!?!?!?!?!
Ohhhhhh Man!
My experience with console development systems is that you have almost no rights to transfer/sell. Everything must be handled through Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo. I predict that, if they want to, they can confiscate all of his development systems. Maybe the rules are different in Japan, but I doubt it.
It's a shame he doesn't accept PayPal. I still have a few hundred thousand knocking about in my PayPal account from that time I clicked the wrong button and accidentally sold Sega...
It looks like you forgot the most obvious and important thing: Ebay got slashdotted!!!
I'm serious though, the page has been taking nearly five minutes, and only three pictures have loaded up. Damn, what next? Google?
Sigs are for losers
Look at his selling history and active auctions. He's been selling this stuff on eBay for over FOUR YEARS. He has about 100 seperate items on sale right now. He is probably bored as hell of it. This auction was a great idea, even if no one bids the $100,000 dollars. It has generated HUGE amounts of publicity for him(it had 20,000 hits before it hit /.) If no one bids on it, he'll have no problem selling the items seperately. And maybe, just maybe, there's a video game obsessed nut rich enough to bid the 100k.
It's pretty obvious why he's selling all of that. He must be getting married and the bride-to-be said "you can either play with SEGA, or play with me, your choice"
Furthermore, he should sell everything over time. The most important thing in economics is scarcity, so he would not want to "flood the market".
And as is, he has forced demand down to near nothing, because how many people have a hundred thousand dollars to spare? It would be funny if nobody bid.
"GAME MUSEUM COLLECTION"
So this guy has a museum? Anyone know anything about this museum? I imagine he has to keep it all somewhere. I don't think all of this would even fit in my place.
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"For $100k I want the seller to understand business, he's likely never to come across money like this again"
So let me get this straight: lacking complete and utter command over the English language suddenly makes you a poor businessman?
Let's ask you a question: how many languages do you speak?
I'm sure you're a millionaire computer geek who knows it all, right? You MUST be entitled to talk down to anyone who isn't as holy as you. Someone who doesn't meet your expectations is somehow less of a person, right?
Take a break, you don't have to be an asshole every day of your life.
The dev stations are leased from the console companies, who all reserve the right to take them back if they want. Technically he doesn't own the Dreamcast devkit, and especially not the Sony devkits.
Looks like SDK will be turning a profit this quarter...
"And as is, he has forced demand down to near nothing, because how many people have a hundred thousand dollars to spare? It would be funny if nobody bid."
/. trolls who was acting in a glue-sniffing induced frenzy and just happened to bid for shits and giggles only to wake up in the morning to realize that they are now owned by Pokemon and Dance Dance Revolution.
Actually, I think it wuld be funny if someone did bid.
Especially if it was one of our own beloved
Maybe he's discovered that a wife or serious girlfriend is quite expensive to maintain and has decided to sell off the heirloom investment in order to pay for wife's shopping habits (clothes, jewellery, etc)
:D
Thankfully, my dear sweet wife doesn't read SlashDot
-- The universe began. Life started on a billion worlds...
-- Except on one where stupidity was there first.
Most gamers won't give a second thought to the large lot of Apple/Bandi Pippin game console items since the Pippin never had a successful launch in this hemisphere (not sure it did anywhwere actually).
There are still an army of Apple enthusiasts who would pay through the nose for the Pippin stuff if it had been sold bundled by itself.
First of all, at the price of the shipping, you mind as well go there yourself and have a nice trip? I mean hey... if you can afford $100 000 on all of this, then you can surely afford to go there AND get the stuff shipped in a private plane piloted by John Travolta (Simpsons anybody? Ah Geez!)
First of all, is all of this even worth 100 000? The number looks just too "round" for something as big as this.
"They also have listed tons (almost literally) of software..". Not wishing to pass up this opportunity to be anal (no, not even almost literally), I'd like to (a) point out that something is either literal or it's not and (b) how much does a bit weigh (and how many bytes in a ton)?
"Um, Dad... can I borrow $100,000?"
" WHAT?! "
"...plus shipping..."
Very true. I would not want to be in his shoes, particularly if if the seller and/or buyer is not a licensed third party developer that have already executed the necessary NDAs. And yes, the rules apply worldwide, including Japan.
The dev kits from all the manufacturers say explicitly "Property of [Manufacturer name]" on the back.
-- Samir Gupta, Ph. D. Head, New Technology Research Group, Nintendo Co. Ltd., Kyoto, Japan.
He's in Hong-Kong. You know, the country 99% of Modchips, Pirated Games, and "Development Devices" come to the US from?
MS/Nintendo/Sony can't do squat.
The Hondorans killed by death squads and the Nicarguans killed by the contras will never forget Reagan, either.
Drooling over exotic oriental luxuries.
Awesome. I especially liked the 'Bonk to Bank transfer'
This is the best Mary-Kate & Ashley ever! There are only stores you can play in.
1) Fash is a really fun store. You dress Mary-Kate & Ashley with lots of hairstyles, clothes, and shoes. Then, you go to the fashion show and take pictures of every outfit. If you got good pictures of each outfit, you win a gem!
2) Lizzie's Lunch is really easy. You serve people what they want on skates, but you have to do it quick before the customers get all mad and leave. If you get the right amount of money, you win a gem!
3) Just Say Snow is fun, but kind of hard. First you choose a board, then you choose an opponent. I would say you choose Bridget Winters, Jeff Rockett, and I think this girl named Cadjet Summers. They are really easy to beat. If you win 2 heats in each slope, you win a gem!
4) Music Nation was hard but I beat it anyway. You pick dance moves for your video. You can also choose the music, too. Then you record your video along with effects. You also have to submit your recording to the producer to win a gem.
5) Catch A Wave is fun! You have to get pictures of the two new lifeguards with you in it. Also,if you get a shot of the DJ, you get bonus points! There is a bonus boutique to unlock stuff or give you bonus stuff.
I like this game because of all the cool things you can do.
I have come to the conclusion that if the seller were to list each item separately, he would probably double or triple his returns.
If you honestly believe this you should buy the set, split it up, and relist it.
So because a college is liberal, they fail to grasp some of the basic tenets of capitalism?
Did you mean liberal arts? Or just an entire school with a liberal slant all the way through?
"Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned for sega."
"Sic Semper Tyrannosaurus Rex."
Check out this hot gamer girl. Woot!
I'm betting that if someone actually bids it'll be some dot-com millionare who cashed out before the bubble burst. Those are the only geeks with that kind of money...
"Sic Semper Tyrannosaurus Rex."
Because Hong-Kong sure is a country... it isn't a city or anything like that
Sweet mother of god, he really does have a Pippin! Several of them! In fact, he probably owns every Pippin ever made, given that no one actually bought one.
I predict that, if they want to, they can confiscate all of his development systems.
I've seen a number of dev kits sold on eBay without intervention from the manufacturer.
It may be possible for them to confiscate the hardware, but would they really risk generating that kind of ill will from someone who is obviously a big gaming spender?
"...always new atoms but always doing the same dance, remembering what the dance was yesterday." -Richard Feynman
tons (almost literally) of software
So how many grams does one bit weigh? Kinda reminds me of the Dilbert strip where PHB gets told to erase files on the harddrive of his laptop to make it lighter.
I mean a liberal college. For the most part, they are preach socialism and how everyone should be of equal value. Share and share alike regardless if you earned or worked hard for it. ...no..I will shut up now. You do EVEN want me to get started on a rant. Besides, it would be off topic.
Life is not for the lazy.
Nintendo Japan has reported that all the collections items in its museum located downtown kyoto has been robbed.
More news still to come.
use nes instead, because square nipples are shekshy!
In italian SEGA means saw. "Farsi una SEGA" translated literally is "to do oneself a saw". To us folks a minor leap brings us to "to choke one's chicken", "to spank one's monkey", "to beat one's bishop", etc...
Either wed or wank buddy.
I hadn't the slightest objection to his spending his time planning massacres for the bourgeoisie... (P.G. Wodehouse)
In memory of Ronald Wilson Reagan. We will never forget you.
Yes, we will.
With the next appearance of sony's psp system, nintendo is selling everything but the sink to pay for the advertisment, which MAYBE will give them a break in sales.
Some sources report the profit made from such sale would be use to buy motrin and other anti inflamatory medicines to cure the sores from the ass whooping sony is gonna give them soon.
Other sources of income would be the early release of Nintendo Girls gone wild!!!.
... as I believe he started the selling stuff on slashdot trend with this FS: CmdrTaco advert.
sorry forgot to add a :) to that posting to show that I was j......
I don't know how much pull the Japanese courts have in Hong Kong.
I think the Chinese are still PO'd after that Nanking thing and the Japanese.
Ah, the beauty of anonymity. Enjoy it while it lasts, young fellow, for the days of non-accountability are numbered here on this Internet of ours. Soon your kind will fade into obscurity... or end up in prison.
Thanks a million. Push Start to replay.
The coolest thing in this auction is the Sony Playstation/PS2 Wine.
I never knew they made WINE for Sony console systems...
something i can finally spend that 100K on.
They're the only ones I would think would consider a job lot like this. Few collectors have the money or the space and there's too many duplicate things for a museum to be interested. This will have to go to a funky, slightly retro, video game store to be broken up and sold.
I saw this earlier. That's got to be the biggest eBay page evar:
1507 font tags
258 nested tables
339 img tags
y helo thar~
Should a civic or possibly even private organization get behind this auction and successfully acquire these items I am certain the financial and long terms benefits would be easily felt...
For instance, a Tech Museum in Seattle, Washington could do more to firmly establish such a location as the seat of such software development in at least the U.S. In addition they could charge an admission fee to recoup the cost of the acquisition and curatorial duties associated with the maintenance and operation of such a museum. The benefits could be quite multi-faceted....
Alternatively, a software magnate (quite likely MS for example), or an extremely well-funded upstart could acquire the collection for display in their corporate offices as a thorough exposition of 'everything that came before', hence making a very firm and eloquent statement about their place in the ranking of software/console manufacturers.
Of blankness, I know nothing.
It has all the signs of being free advertising. Especially since, with about 3 days gone by, there have been no bids.
And why isn't neura's name in the submission linked to his/her (ok, with an auction like this, probably his) account?
Anyone in London UK can view a selection of games consoles (and, even play some of them, including classic pong) at the design museum as part of Sony's INTERACTION SPACE:
Rediscover your favourite vintage video games - from Pong and Pac-Man to Tomb Raider - by playing them in the Interaction Space on the second floor of the Design Museum. Visitors can also discover the work of the pioneering multimedia designers who are defining the images we will see on our computer and TV screens in the future in the virtual galleries of the Digital Design Museum. Or they can learn more about the designers, architects and technologies featured at the museum in Design at the Design Museum, our online research archive.
It would be fantastic if these sorts of consoles could go to a museum to support future exhibitions of this kind.
>>PAYMENT:--- ONLY ACCEPT:--- 1/ INTERNATIONAL BONK TO BANK TRANSFER--- 2/ WESTERN UNION INTERNATIONAL TRANSFER
This guy will accept his $100K the same ways kidnappers accept theirs!
No sending an intermediate party after this guy to get your $$$ back (as one could with, say, a credit card)... and somehow I doubt Hong Kong's laws would protect an American buyer if something went sour...
MS/Nintendo/Sony can't do squat
I beg to differ.
Dear Ebay,
Auction number 123456 is selling confidential equipment in violation of contract. Please see to it that an end is put to this immediately, and we won't have our lawyers bone the everloving shit out of your ass in court.
Have a Nice day.
Love,
William H Gates, III.
Damn! I was hoping to see the famous Sony/Nintendo stillborn child, the Play Station (note before you flame:Play Station i.e.2 words not PlayStation!), and it seems to be about the only one he hasnt got! Or did I miss it amongst all the Slashdotted photographs?
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I don't think they can, unless he has actually signed those agreements himself.
Also, those kinds of agreements tend to go a bit beyond the law in some countries.
I don't know what a "BONK" is, must be some sort of Japanese institution.
;)
How appropriate, a Slashdotter not knowing what a "bonk" is. Last time I checked, bonking wasn't confined to Japan either, people do it all over the world
For all the criticism this auction is receiving, I can see the guy making a sale.
It'll probably be snapped up by Google to keep their employees happy during break time !
This is on-topic (replying to the parent's .sig), and truthful. Please mod up.
You're not just looking at the $100k pricetag plus S&H but also at spending quite a bit at customs (and it's going to be a b**ch to get some of this stuff cleared by customs in the first place). Oh, and be sure to tell the UPS guy not to leave the stuff on the front porch. ;)
Well, I'd kill for the N64DD dev kit on it's own... Ian
Only in the US (and maybe some other places where lobbyists rule rather than good sense?) does "right of first sale" (ie. you can resell it) not apply to software.
In HK, and even Japan, that has reasonably well enforced intellectual property laws, software is completely transferrable, if you have the original disk, no matter what the company may have printed on the CD/license pack saying you can/cannot do with it. Most shops in Akihabara Tokyo sell all sorts of older versions of MS Software (original CDs), and there isn't a damn thing that MS can do about it, in spite of what they print on their CDs.
Which is sensible really, why shouldn't you be able to sell something you legitimately paid for and no longer want to someone else?
Ah..the rights you used to have in the USA long long ago before the lawyers and corporate lobbyists took over everything...
The problem is not scarcity, it is of information. Demand increases with exposure, and by doing this, this guy is gaining exposure.
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In memory of Ronald Wilson Reagan. We will never forget you.
1) Who?
2) No, but he'll forget you.
Don't you think if you were spending the money to buy this stuff that you might collect in person?
You were mistaken. Which is odd, since memory shouldn't be a problem for you
Does he have the Phantom?
Its dangerous to keep that many computers in one place, they could join together into a mighty Beowulf cluster of BBC Micros, and cunningly post themselves on E-bay and /. using the alias "grahamlee". Once the bid is made they will escape their garage prison and be free to take over the world! NOOOoooooo
I'm sure you all noticed the Playstation release "celebration wine" that comes along with the rest of the equipment. I guess it's part of the dev kit or something...
To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
Cactus Frankie... Is that you?
What has come of the Slashdot crowd? All grown up? This can't be. Normally there should be at least a couple fake biddings after a Slashdot front page story.
100k is indeed pretty cheap, especially considering that a lot of this gear was never available to buy and sell normally.
For example, I was under the impression that you can't buy PS2 devkits, only borrow them from Sony (and pay heavily for the privilege). I'm pretty sure you can't just sell them on...makes me wonder how he got hold of them in the first place.
But think about it. If he had set up a bunch of separate auctions, would he have gotten all this free publicity on Slashdot? I think not. It was the sheer massiveness that made it interesting enough for Slashdot to post. And Slashdot is probably one of his best shots at finding someone actually willing to pay that much money for a bunch of outdated consoles. So all in all, I think putting it all together into one massive auction worked out quite nicely for him.
I'll buy you right arm for $100,000. I'll pay for the amputation and shipping as well.
However, my bank account ($10,000,000,000,000+) is frozen and I need the arm of an American in order to make the magic potion that will get me back my money. I promise I will send you the the $100.000 as soon as I get your arm. I am a very honest Nigerian.
Now go breathe some life into your company's failing stock.
I survived the Dick Cheney Presidency 7 to 9 AM 7-21-07
...and...you're not getting any tonight just for saying that.
Can't load any of the images. It appears the ops for the nameservers for the sdk-team.com web servers just yanked the A record right out of their DNS zone. I guess that's one way to stop a Slashdotting.
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dragonhawk@iname.microsoft.com
I do not like Microsoft. Remove them from my email address.
I know you're a well known troll, but anyway, just to offer real world experience...this devkit here doesn't say "Property of [Manufacturer name]" on it, or anything like that. It wouldn't surprise me if the agreement we have with [Devkit Manufacturer] states something along those lines, but it aint written on the hardware.
My name is Wan Dev Kit, son of Wong Dev Kit, Hong Kong's foremost exporter of video game systems and utilities. Following the Chinese takeover of Hong Kong, my father disappeared and his bank account has been frozen by the state. This has caused great hardship to my family who have been unable to access his account.
However, there exists a loophole in the law which allows foreign companies to remove existing stock from Hong Kong following the takeover. To this end I am seeking a discreet, reliable foreign partner to provide the sum of $100,000 (ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS U.S.) in transfer fees which will allow my father's company to operate outside Chinese control. In return, you will be richly rewarded by the Dev Kit Electronics Company.
THank you for your cooperation in this matter.
Wan Dev Kit
1. Collect Junk .....???? ... seriously, what in the WORLD would you need all this for?
2. Post Ebay Link on SlashDot
3.
4. Profit!
If he hasn't got a Pippen, I'm not interested.
Media that can be recorded and distributed can be recorded and distributed.
-kfg
Has anyone ever done a BONK to BANK transfer? Does it leave a mark?
-- Liberalism is a mental disorder.
That's, uh... a lot of stuff to have. Does he happen to live in, oh I don't know, some kind of warehouse? Or maybe he has one of those nifty pockets of hyperspace the Magratheans had.
The main concern I have, however, are those "Only 250 sets on Earth!" comments. Yes, how unique it is on this planet is all well and good, but what about other planets!? I don't want to shell out $100K for something that's as common as dirt on Europa or even Jupiter.
As an aside, I find the "To place a bid of US $15,000.00 or more, you'll need to provide a valid credit card" line amusing. "Also, a small fee applies if the name on the credit card is different to your own, but only for amounts less than $1,000.00."
We're geeks... We're the sorcerers of the modern-day world. --
"Never tested. Sold as is."
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"Never tested. Sold as is."
"Never tested. Sold as is."
My spider-sense is tingling. I can just see the: "Oh, nothing works? Sorry, man, I never tested it. As is. Bye"
"Anybody ever seen the original Super Famicom development system?"
Yes, I have. It had a lame balloon test demo where you could move a balloon with a controller.
Ha! As someone with a fair amount of experience dealing with US businesses trying to work in other cultures, I can tell you this assumption is unfortunately naive.
My brother's spending a lot of time in China lately. The country's crawling with American businessmen, small businessmen, who'd be analogous to this electronics/junk dealer. You'd be amazed at the attitudes, given your post. (Translator? They'll come to us, right?) It's screwy, but even when their small business depends on this one contract, they just don't "get" it.
That's leaving alone far more approachable, familiar, western cultures. I went to France in March. You want to be sympathetic to your American overseas, it's a situation they might not know that well -- but you know, fairly often they make no effort at all. Even in the UK, where there's a common language, there's a large share of American business types who just don't try to be polite, let alone spell "colour" like the natives would spell it.
"Fundamentalism" isn't about divine morality. It's about human authority.
...I'd be the first to bid for all that Japanese hardware, but my television only speaks English.
Don't foist your three console mentality on the past, man.
Seller information
lingjr (255)
Feedback Score: 255
What a fitting feedback score too, just waiting to roll over.
It's quite illegal to sell the devkits to the public.
Where? Is it illegal in Hong Kong, where this guy is? Do you know, for a fact, that he didn't obtain these devices legitimately and/or without signing any type of agreement? Hell, for all you know he dumpster dove for the things.
A sticker on the bottom of thing marked "Property of Sony" has no legal force whatsoever. They could have trashed the thing and he obtained it from the garbage, which makes it now his, legally, and with no restrictions whatsoever.
Without knowing the complete and full path by which he acquired that devkit, you cannot say for certain whether it is illegal for him to be selling it.
- Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day, but set him on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.
I recall reading about it on EGM a loooong time ago... some british store sold the ultimate Sega Game Gear mod: the case was made of gold and covered with diamonds.
Circumcision is child abuse.
Sorry but for 100K it better dam well be working. I know there is value in unopened goods but not if there broken.
These comments of "Well just the ps2 dev sytem is worth 20K" are crap. Think they will be worth that in 5 years? Sorry but the only person who will pay 100K for this is someone who is ulra rich, has no regard for the true value of the items, and just wants the items regardless of cost. The saying "One man's trash is another man's treasure" obviously hold true. But even in the eyes of a huge console fan like myself the price is too steep.
Yeah, it was called an Apple IIGS.
Nathan
Oh yes, Mr. Pseudonym that can't be traced to a real identity, please continue to enlighten us by holding forth on the evils of anonymity.
One CPU cycle wasted on digital restrictions management is ONE TOO MANY.
Well, in case anyone wanted to know...here's what's known about the Auction...from people in the know about games...
1. The seller is Barry Ling, aka lingjr...who is well, duh, based out of Hong Kong.
2. This is a legit auction. lingjr has been selling stuff like this for a long time, and he has quite a good reputation...though his English may not be good. He's selling his collection of gaming hardware/software so he can help a friend accomplish a dream...nobody knows what this dream is though...
3. Some of this may seem worthless to you, but many hardcore console collectors are drooling right now as we speak.
4. A lot of that stuff isn't worth that much, and he would make a lot more money selling this all separately.
5. I know a lot of hardcore console collectors with huge collections...though not as impressive as lingjr's, and I don't know of a single one who has the cash to buy all of that in one swoop.
Anyone interested in a CO-OP? (As a little tidbit of reference, CO-OPs are businesses set up and run by the people who would benefit from the business. They were common in rural America for getting power to places that were not profitible to the big power companies).
If we were to each shell out a portion, maybe even do it donation based, we could easily bring this to the US. We could create a game museum, or something, and allow people who contributed to check out hardware for homebrew development. Finding a location would be difficult, but not impossible.
I dunno, just a pipe dream....
My experience with console development systems is that you have almost no rights to transfer/sell. Everything must be handled through Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo. I predict that, if they want to, they can confiscate all of his development systems.
So like...they're going to send the 'DevKitRepo' team after him or something? Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo can't confiscate anything, and I *highly* doubt they're going to get any sort of cooperation from the Hong Kong cops. By the time anything gets around to happening, if anything indeed ever even begins happening, this guy will be paid, the dev kits will be somewhere else (most likely in the US) and then you have a whole new layer of bureaucracy to deal with. I'm sure 'lingjr' is cowering in fear right now.
http://xkcd.com/386/
SORRY FOR ANY INCONVENIENCE CAUSE DUE TO TOO MANY VISITER ON PHOTOS
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I just changed all photos under other web-hosting
hope problem will not come again
Does ebay have its own area for photo-hosting, or are all photos generally held offsite? I'm really hoping that this guy put that notice up after his image-host got slashdotted, rather than before (otherwise he's going to have a bad day in the bandwidth arena)
If I had the money to buy all this I'd hop on a plane and go make the deal in person. Very what I was getting them hand deliver the money when the goods were picked up. No way would I trust this person to ship it. But then again, people are stupid.
For people who talk like you, Bob Jones is liberal. After all, they are grudgingly allowing black and white people to date. Shameful, liberal behavior.
Fucking idiot. You think you're the only ejaculation with a rant? You and your fucking mind need a good hard cock squicking.
PS You God and your President are just like used condoms: full of spunk. I like that.
mmmmmmmmm laser active...
It's not like Sony has to ship each Playstation 2 console individually.
That's because Sony holds or uses under license all patents covering methods used by the PS2 console and owns copyright in the PS2 BIOS. Anybody other than the patent holder must obey the parallel import restrictions.
And let's not forget about the bottles of wine that are included with this. A few years ago, a friend of mine in Spain sent me a couple of bottles of Rioja (mmm!), but they never got to me. 8 weeks later, I got a message in the mail about how alcoholic bev's originating from overseas couldn't be sent thru the mail, due to customs red tape. Interestingly, buried in the fine print of items that *are* allowed are scorpions! Apparently there are some species of scorpions whose sting is therapeutic for treating arthritis, so these can be imported and sent thru the mail. But not wine.
> SONY
> PlayStation 2
> Linus kit
> SCPH-10270
I wonder what the part number is for the Alan Cox kit?
I knew I kept that PS2 around for some reason.
I ditched my PS/2, but kept the keyboard.
Do daemons dream of electric sleep()?
There are many other sorts of co-ops as well, including:
in which the people living in the house are part owners and their "rent" is actually going to pay off the mortgage
which in this day and age are usually buyer's co-ops, where the shoppers are "members" who pay an annual fee and in return get lower prices on food
in which farmers pool their resources to purchase fertilizer, distribution, etc
and there are many other sorts of co-ops, usually fitting either the "buyer's co-op" model or the "workers' co-op" model (where the workers own the business) -- at my school there are 4 co-ops, all workers' co-ops; one is a book store, one is a food store, one is a convenience/school supplies store, and the last is a cafe and all-ages venue (The Che Cafe)
How do you know he's American?
I wonder
Bill Gates could affort the 100k price but be would probably start to try and b**ch to the patent office then resell it as his own "property". Someone get Trump to loan me 100k for this, at a reasonable interest rate.
Where are the X68000 units at?No videogame collection is complete without them.
This guy will accept his $100K the same ways kidnappers accept theirs!
Well how the hell else do you expect someone to receive a 6-digit payment?! Visa?! PayPal?!
somehow I doubt Hong Kong's laws would protect an American buyer if something went sour
Do you have a reason to doubt it? Or when you say "somehow I doubt", do you actually mean "I don't know"?
But, at least as far as I can tell, the dev kits consist of more than just software, they have hardware as well. It is also no where near the EULA-style click through licences that we're talking about, you have to sign before they give anything to you, and it's made very clear from the start (unlike with software where they don't tell you it's licenced and not sold at the EULA) that you are only borrowing them.
I noticed the linux kit for PS2 was labeled as a "Linus kit"
I thought surely this dude would have one of these. Man I'm gonna die before I find one.
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OK, so how many Slashdot readers have a spare $100,000?
Right. It's not really that demand increases; it's more like the actual demand approaches the theoretical demand, which assumes perfect information. This is basic economics.
A definition of demand appropriate for an auction: The desire to possess a commodity or make use of a service, combined with the ability to purchase it. So being willing and able is built into the idea itself.
I don't know what Sega thinks of that, but a couple months back I won a Sega Saturn Dev Kit on eBay. It was less of a "kit" and more of a giant board and a cable. It had a floppy disk with drivers, but no CD with code.
as in ***kilograms***. All the boxed items together might total over 100 kilograms, which is why freight would be so expensive.
I agree. If I had a hundred thousand dollars, I would probably purchase this crap and then spend the next 4 years auctioning it all off individually and making oh, say,
dum dum DUM!
ONE MILLION DOLLARS!!
It's an evil plan, but someone's gonna get rich on this guy.
Same here; I've ordered many DVDs from Hong Kong and Ireland, and even the ones that have been opened for inspection have made it through. I've gotten boxes with 10-20 DVDs in them this way (sometimes the packages are nearly half covered with stamps :-)
I took a quick look at the searches the grandparent post referred to, and noticed that the problems mainly seem to come from:
And yes, this includes things like out-of-region DVDs, region zero DVDs, and legitimate DVDs for movies that haven't hit the theaters in the US yet. These are also all for personal use rather than resale.
"SHIPPING??!!??"
"...from Hong Kong?"
What is the difference between a small revolutionary change and a large evolutionary change?
Damn you, ebay !!!! - Homer Jay Simpson
[why was this auction removed ? im speculating the dev. kits, that or ebay thought something was fishy when his page got 20,000 hits in a matter of a few hrs.]
An American businessman walks up to an English hotel clerk to check in. After all the paperwork was through, the clerk informs the American that the "lift is around the corner on the right"
"Don't you mean the elevator?" asked the American.
"No, sir, I believe it is the lift" replied the Englishman
"I think I know what it's called, we invented it" retorted the American
"Yes, but we invented the language"
There are three of us: Mr. Rice, Dr. Burners, and Mr. Sucks, Esquire.
That's right. Nintendo, Sony, etc do not offer their dev kits for sale to just anyone. You must be a licensed, approved publisher or developer and basically have a relationship and big fat legal contracts signed with them before you can even consider buying a dev kit. And then, because you signed said big fat legal contracts, you are restricted from re-sale.
Batteries not included
As of 1:30AM US easten time, Ebay is no longer listing his auction.
/. traffic got an Ebay employee to take a look?
Maybe all the
Slashdot- using its power for good, or for awesome?
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Vote monkeys into Congress. They are cheaper and more trustworthy.
anyway...the auction has been pulled with an ebay error message i've never seen before, and i'm guessing somebody in china is in handcuffs..
since the page now returns "auction invalid", it seems that the answer to your question might be "yes" and he's attracted just enough attention to get shut down.
I don't see why he'd be in handcuffs, what part of his auction was illegal?
My bet it, he pulled it realizing 'noone's gonna be able to drop more than $100k on this' and is planning to split the auction up. Perhaps he never intended anyone to actually bid on it, maybe the $100k auction was all just a hype-generator (and it sure fucking worked, too).
Well met, "base3". If you're so curious as to my identity, it's Mario Panighetti. I have nothing to hide.
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http://www.google.com/search?q=%22mario+panighe
All of those are me-related, except the Italian PDF. No idea what the hell that is.
Thanks a million. Push Start to replay.
Actually, I wasn't curious, though you certainly get props for being willing to put your money where your mouth is, so to speak.
One CPU cycle wasted on digital restrictions management is ONE TOO MANY.
Well, I've never really seen the point in hiding behind a pseudonym. The Internet has the potential to be this wonderful tool to connect people and businesses around the world, but it's populated by legions of "tehmatrixfan_8136@aol.com" handles. The minute the anonymity is erased is the minute this tool can reach its hithertofore-untapped potential. It will happen some day, and I eagerly await that day.
In the meantime though, "afish" is a fun name, so I'll stick with it. ^_^
Thanks a million. Push Start to replay.
The topic here is not parent's signature. Should be off-topic, not troll. But it is interesting :D