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no problem
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Re:Michael is gone!
Wow, is this for real? Michael is gone from the list of Slashdot editors (here's a Google cache from this morning). And he doesn't seem to have posted anything today either.
Michael's departure, if true, would be the best thing to happen to Slashdot in a long time... and I've got two karma points to burn for saying so.
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Michael Sims?
Michael Sims appears to have been fired (contrast Slashdot editors page with Google cache). Can anyone confirm?
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Volume and weight of popcorn needed.Some numbers to play around with....
Corn is about 56lbs/bushel (popcorn might be a bit denser, but I couldn't find any good numbers)
A bushel is 1.24 cubic feet
56 lbs = 896 oz.
Now if you look at concessionstands.com they have 48 oz poppers that will pop 48oz of popcorn in about 3 minutes.
The volume ratio of popped corn to un-popped corn is pretty variable - but google provides thishttp://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:6MLAWvN-M asJ:dspace.library.cornell.edu/bitstream/1813/118/ 4/Popcorn.PDF&hl=en
that shows a "good" batch should provide 38 to 1 ratio.
So taking that information all together we get
896oz / 48oz/batch = 18.67 batches
18.67batches x 3 min/batch = 56 minutes to pop a bushel of popcorn
1.24 cubic ft/bushel unpopped x 38 = 47.2 cu ft popped corn
From this you can see that you can get about 50 cubic feet of popcorn per hour. That is from a multi-thousand $ machine.
A small bedroom (10x12x8) is 960 cubic feet. Thats about 20 hours to fill that one room. They do have dual popper machines and I think one that went as high as 66 oz of popcorn per batch - but even so that is A LOT of popcorn.
Call some concession businesses in the yellow pages and ask about getting 100's of pounds of popcorn popped. A lot of the places will think you are nuts (you are) but one of them will probably be able to point you to someone who can or does do that kind of volume of pre-popped corn for stadiums, etc. Another avenue might be to find someone who works for a snack food -
Re:Both links dead!
You need to get the Gcache extention for FireFox It lets you right click on a link, and open a Google Cache of whatever you right-clicked on.
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Re:I've written a review of this
You probably want to use the text-only cached link, since the one you gave still grabs files from your web server (images, stylesheets, etc.).
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Owned.
To thoses who marked this interesting. Are you so stupid that you actually think that the president of SOE opened an account on slashdot just to post this message?
actually I did. feel free to email me at jsmedley@soe.sony.com and I'm happy to reply. John
Words like "u g0t pwn3d" and "Terrorists win!" come to mind here. Here's another (cached) site with the e-mail address, showing an apparent response to a *ahem* well-worded e-mail (not for children).
I wouldn't be shocked. Executives notice Slashdot, but they're busy making products, deals, and legal action--and filtering out e-mails like the one on the link above, I'm sure.
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Re:This reminds me of...
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no GUI needed
And what's the point of having a server that's also pushing a GUI?
The login screen doesn't eat many cycles sitting idle, but you could disable it in inittab if you wanted to.
You can do just about everything at the command line but I usually leave a VNC server running because it's just faster to do some things that way.
Not that there's anything wrong with a linux server, which you can rent for next to nothing. -
Re:"New stem cell harvesting was outlawed in the UYes, as everyone points out over and over, Bush opponents regularly blow this totally out of proportion- it's not a "ban," stem cell research is not "illegal." This is simply a restriction on using Federal Government funding to support research that develops new lines of human, embryonic stem cells, and all four of those items in italics greatly reduce the impact of Bush's executive order compared to what is often claimed.
Never the less, the executive order in question is reprehensible. Bush is using tenuous, illogical, religious grounds to justify denying a large category of funding to a promising area of scientific inquiry. Hundreds of potential stem cell lines for research are being destroyed daily from aborted fetuses. If Bush is in favor of destroying existing resources (human tissues) instead of using them to advance science and save lives, why not ban organ donation? Does anything in the bible say "thou shalt not help fund researching [new, human, embryonic] stem cells if thou art the [federal] government?" If this research is immoral, why only ban government funding, as opposed to all funding, or the research itself? If this is about abortion, why not oppose abortion, rather than research? Can anyone make sense of this policy? It scares me, not in how sweeping the effects are, but because The President, the "Leader of the Free World," is using executive orders to dictate where scientific research funding goes based on personal, nonsensical, unpopular religious motives.
I think the rest of government should do what the Pentagon does, and ignore it. There's no basis in law for "executive orders" anyway. I doubt any president would allow a case based on violating an executive order to go to court, in case the Supreme Court ruled that Executive orders don't exist. Chances are, Bush can't do anything but get grumpy if the whole Federal Government simply ignores his ban.
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Re:Rule 34. Boston City Council.
If you would like to contact MIS Management Information Services at Boston City Hall, it would help to get them to use plain ASCII text in email and put the full text public notices on the web instead of just abbreviated calendar listings. Contact rajesh.pareek@cityofboston.gov
Reference
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:z1r9094PnU8J: www.tele-works.com/pdf/Boston.pdf+%22rajesh.pareek %40cityofboston.gov%22&hl=en
http://tinyurl.com/6k9g6
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Re:Vonage might not exist today w/o Powell.Or for an actual citation, look at this google cache of a www.fcc.gov website which states that the FCC created the do-not-call registry. It includes this quote, emphasis mine:
Recently, pursuant to its broad authority under the Telephone Consumer Protection Act (TCPA), the FCC established a national Do-Not-Call Registry.
So it's not surprising there's some confusion about the whole thing.
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Re:Do Not Call Was Not FCCBefore you get too carried away here, refer to this Google cache site. Which states:
Recently, pursuant to its broad authority under the Telephone Consumer Protection Act (TCPA), the FCC established a national Do-Not-Call Registry.
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Those are not 'Devil's Horns'
I recall, Gene Simmons used that gesture to only give a wink to fellow Spiderman fans.
The 'devil horns' isn't Satan worship, but I doubt the militant religious right doesn't read that many comic books.
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Re:Sleep with dogs, get fleas..
Well his first name is Brian so he's not the defendant in that case. ALL the addresses lead back to him though, I would guess he used a sister or wife as the CEO of that company.
Hey the six degrees of Brian Haberstroh (I did in five what can you do it in).
Website has same address as the ftc document. [http://web.archive.org/web/19961219234234/http:// www.greenhorse.com/ ] way back machines shows same address for greenhorse.com (sorry not enough slash foo to link(remember to delete the space!)).
what do you know a spam from said website. (click on cached and goto the bottom of page) note the P.O. box address.
Note the name of the company.
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Re:Clinton on the Social Security crisis
The last 30 years have actually been a dip in the general trend, due mainly to the *ridiculous* inflation of the 70s. You have to look at it like you're "supposed" to look at the stock market - very, very long term.
While this is not an incredibly satisfying example, it does show back to 1950. And it shows that the past 55-60 years have seen an increase in real wages (wages adjusted for inflation).
It may take another 75 years, and technological and economic changes equal in magnitude to the changes in labor law and the advances in technology that we've seen over the 20th century, but I don't believe a 65% increase in real wages to be entirely out of the question.
I've read that its true for the entire 20th century, but was unable to find any graphics to support my point over the entire century; sorry. I can only support it for the last 60 years. -
Mirror for your convenience
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Re:I'd be interestedSomething like this:
The Swedish welfare state is based on a dual bread-winner model. Sweden has, in other words, adopted a gender-neutral concept of social citizenship. Apart from circumstances directly related to childbirth, married women in Sweden are covered by the same labour, tax and social security legislation as men. No entitlements are targeted at women in their capacity as wives. The state uses separate taxation, generous public day-care provision for pre-school children, and extensive programmes of parental leave to encourage married women/mothers to remain in gainful employment.
The Swedish dual breadwinner model contrasts sharply with the predominant European welfare state model, which was designed around the single (male) breadwinner. -
Re:stupid hippies avoiding danger
wow, only on slashdot would a post saying that plutonium is neither highly radioactive or toxic be modded to +5 insightful. Plutonium is used in RTG's precisely because it is intensely radioactive!! Pu238 is seventeen times more radioactive than the same mass of radium. And yes plutonium is rather toxic if ingested or inhaled not only due to the fact that it is a heavy metal but also because it is highly radioactive and emits mostly alpha particles which have a large capability to destroy cells if in close proximity. Will 1 Kg kill everyone on earth? no, we've released many Kg into the atmosphere during nuclear weapons tests and most of us are still here. Are RTG's dangerous? Not really no. But it is only because of highly redundant and cautious engineering that this is so. Would someone with half a clue want to "bury an RTG under my children's playset"? No probably not. The relaxation of the Pu nucleus after it emits a low penetrating power alpha particle also then emits a high energy gamma ray with high mass penetrating potential which is not very nice to play around.
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Re:Why spend $200-400 on a new card?Says who? Link, please.
It's supposed to be here, but Apple pulled the system requirements from that page recently. Thankfully, a Google-cached version of that page is still available.
From that page:
Supported graphics cards:
So why did Apple pull the system requirements right before the Mac mini announcement? Are they lowering/raising the system requirements? Are they trying to hide the fact that a desktop Mac released this week does not meet the requirements?- ATI Radeon 9800 XT
- ATI Radeon 9800 Pro
- ATI Radeon 9700 Pro
- ATI Radeon 9600 XT
- ATI Radeon 9600 Pro
- ATI Mobility Radeon 9700
- ATI Mobility Radeon 9600
- NVIDIA GeForceFX Go 5200
- NVIDIA GeForceFX 5200 Ultra
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Re:Yum VS RedHat Update Network
In the past, for up2date you had to register with the redhat network. It was a secure way of getting updates from a secure server. However, up2date is being phased out with yum, which is basically up2date with added features.
For example, yum can be set up with one of many mirrors . Where up2date only got updates from redhat's server. -
Karma whore
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Re:is it jsut me
Check it:
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:ef-r7S3esgUJ: www.corante.com/getreal/archives/bittorrent_exeem_ metatorrent_podcasting_what_so_what.php+&hl=en&cli ent=firefox-a
And, fyi, to find a mirror, just type the damn url into google and go to googlecache. Yeah, I know, I'm l33t, thank me later. -
Good news for republicansThis is indeed great news to the republican party. It shows that their eco-destructive policy making is working which is an important step in the process of bringing on the second coming of Christ.
House Majority Leader Tom Delay -- a self-declared member of the Christian Zionists, an End-Time faction numbering 20 million Americans -- was present at John Hagee's San Antonio-based Cornerstone Church in 2002 when Hagee preached a fire and brimstone sermon, telling his congregation, "The war between America and Iraq is the gateway to the Apocalypse." After Hagee's sermon, Delay was quoted as saying, "Ladies and gentlemen, what has been spoken here tonight is the truth from God."
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:GZ3Q1TljylcJ: www.interventionmag.com/cms/modules.php%3Fop%3Dmod load%26name%3DNews%26file%3Darticle%26sid%3D958+To m+Delay+Bill+Hagee&hl=en&start=4 Religion is now the force behind policy making. This is dangerous and will likely lead to much destruction in the name of a fairy tale. Please, do not vote republican (or for Zell Miller). -
What it Takes
If you want to get a better idea of what it takes to restore a mighty Saturn V, I have on my website an article from the December 1996/ January 1997 issue of Smithsonian Air & Space Magazine an article that details the efforts involved in restoring the one in Florida.
The same company is being tapped for the Huntsville Saturn V and I would imagine the one in Texas, also.
The Google cache of the first page (my poor little website can't afford a Slashdotting) can be found here and the second page will load from my site, but at least I've cut my load in half.
People should read this.
And after you do, feel free to make a donation to help save the Saturn V Werner von Braun left the U.S. Space & Rocket Center
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google cache
The nasa web server is at capacity, but here's the google cache of it
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"I'm being censored!!" -battle cry of a wikinutter
I feel I should chime in here, as the person who originally removed the geocities links from the article.
I removed the link because; number one - wikipedia does not publish original research, two -Jim Baldrson has been a known trollish crazy on Kuro5hin for years and a troll on Usenet for over a DECADE landing himself on a kook-of-the-month list way back in 1994, three -The ideas expressed on his geocities site (which is down now but I'll link anyway, maybe it'll be back up) are just plain insane. Here's a real gem: "Immigration Causes Autism" a lovely little racist tract (also, racist extremists endorse his views), fourth -he started editing wikipedia articles in suspicious anti-semitic and racist ways (see here, though these are merely revivals of his MANY earlier anti-Jewish ramblings) though his changes were reverted by other users fairly quickly, fifth -he seems to go "underground" when he's noticed by others as a problem and then starts posting changes to articles using only his IP. So in conclusion I think its quite clear that neither he nor his ideas or motives are trustworthy. He is closely watched on wikipedia right now and I doubt he will get away with too much shenanigans.
One hilarious bit of irony I can't help but relish is that he came here to cry a river about how he was being "censored" on wikipedia and then had four +5 comments posted below him agreeing with his opposition after recognizing him for the kook he is. Wow, congrats Jim! -
Re:You obviously haven't studied chip design
> You obviously haven't studied chip design
Perhaps that's why I am able to come up with a novel idea? Because nobody told me it's impossible, it just might work. But, of course, I welcome constructive criticism.
> How do you deposit another fresh layer of
> uncorrupted substrate on top of a processed layer?
With this technology it is already possible to do exactly that. It just needs a bigger nozzle.
> Chemical vapor deposition? It's not as easy as it sounds.
Neither was putting the man on the moon. But we did it anyway. Sure there will be engineering challenges here, but I see no theoretical problems with using CVD for this.
> What about thermal expansion/contraction?
Thermal effects in the sphere are no different from the ones in a flat plate. Also, there have been recent advances in painting transistors on flexible substrates, which could help on the surface layers.
> thermal effects on timing
How will they be any different from the ones in a flat CPU? Besides, you need to remember that with the clock in the center, timing is going to be far easier to implement.
> IR drop of a sandwich layer of
> substrate-oxide-metal-oxide-substrate-oxide-metal?
Perhaps you could explain this problem to those of us who don't understand the reference?
> How do you analyze process defects on the lower layers?
Just as you analyze process defects on flat CPUs: by testing them. I don't think chip manufacturers actually look at each chip under the microscope to see if something went wrong.
> If you want to do 3D, just make alot of chips and stack them together.
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Is it just me?
Or is the site not loading? Googlecache: http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:6qWFhaqeaZYJ
: www.zdnetindia.com/reviews/product_news/stories/11 4569.html+&hl=en&client=firefox-a Mirror dot: http://www.mirrordot.com/stories/2712f2435ee5df05c c584434364b7951/index.html -
SlashdottedHere is a google cache (of the first page, anyway)
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Google cache version
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Re:IF you can't get it.... cache it!
and now, without the pointless highlighting... http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:uKCwKOYICgkJ
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Re:Did Bond do it first?Who gives a shit of the actors were Chinese? The characters were Japanese. You don't have to be a certain nationality to play one on TV.
- Jackie Chan played the driver of the Japanese entry, a Subaru that was constantly getting lost despite all the high-tech gadgetry aboard.
- Jackie Chan as a Japanese racecar driver
- Chan and Hui (who worked on the movie at the "insistence" of Golden Harvest chairman Leonard Ho, who wanted to build a more international audience for his company's films) portray Japanese race car drivers. [google cache]
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IF you can't get it.... cache it!
Google HTML cache of the PDF:
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:uKCwKOYICgkJ: www.crypto.com/papers/safelocks.pdf+safelocks+cryp to&hl=en
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Question of OGG Support
Since every time a media player is mentioned on
/., and this is an iPod running Linux, and 95% of my collection is in ogg, etc. I've karma whore by posting this link to the currently /.ed iPod Linux Wiki FAQ. In short, here's the answer, and there is no reason, from either the site or TFA to change it (TFA says nothing about ogg.) No mailing list or forums available.
Note: Linux != ogg. If your iPod runs linux, that does not mean everything you can run in mplayer will suddenly work on your iPod as some seem to be suggesting.
Short version (from the Wiki):
Is there an OGG player?
The Tremor (http://www.xiph.org/ogg/vorbis/) player is running at about 80% real-time. -
Cached page... provided by - Google.
Ayhh...
Sorry! The wiki is experiencing some technical difficulties, and cannot contact the database server.
Too many connections
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Re:Product Liabilty distortionAs I said before, there's a buttload of safety things available, and the safety industry is huge. Your scenario doesn't really counteract that reality.
And how many of them were developed after, say, the '80s? How many of them are simply refinements of existing technologies? We're not saying that safety isn't a large industry, that existing safety devices don't have a place, but we're saying that existing liability laws are an obstacle to new safety devices reaching market.
The mythology is that one evil (but stupid) guy (who can't operate equipment competently) sues a company (usually phrased as 'picks on') that is owned by a single (and in the mythology depicted as a 'noble entrepreneur) person or small group of people.
Like the case of the guy who was sued for not putting the warning on the cardboard car sunshade that you're not to drive with it in place. Like the guy who made a living in my hometown suing businesses that ran out of items on sale for "mental anguish", but would settle for a reasonable 5-10 thousand dollars. Like the police who sued Ford because Ford refused to sell them more vehicles because they were suing them
In reality, when the guy sues, he was wounded seriously by a product which can be demonstrated to have left the factory in a defective condition. And there's large quantities of similarly defective products out there. And the factory is owned by a company that measures profits in the billions of dollars a year. The guy that 'invented' the safety equipment makes 40K a year, and might be laid off any day now. The people who profit from the invention spend their days sipping tea, getting their poodles groomed, drinking martinis, and wondering which around-the-world cruise might be best to give the grandchildren for a "Lincoln's Birthday" present.
Oh, so Ballistic Recovery Systems is a billion dollar company?
BRS is a 24 year old $6.5 million Minnesota based manufacturer.
Doesn't sound like they're that big. And what about the parent with his device that would open a parachute if the parachuter didn't pull the cord within a certain altitude? It didn't protect against a partial opening of the chute. That's a situation that warrents a redesign. It can certainly be argued that the inventer had a worthy idea, but failed to cover all scenarios. Heck, it didn't protect in a situation it wasn't designed to handle. It was a simple IF (altitude x) AND chute NOT DEPLOYED THEN DEPLOY(chute).
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Re:Maybe>> Welcome aboard the USS Make Shit Up!
Welcome aboard ST:TNG episode #40273-161, "Deja Q"!
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Re:cricket?
Would it surprise you to find that New England has about half the number of internet users as India?
Population of New England: 14,205,480 (2003)
Indian internet users: 18,500,000 (2004)
So, assuming 65-70% of New England population use the internet, New England has roughly 9 million internet users.
And Indian access is growing at a very resonable rate. I see no reason why it won't hit 50,000,000 by 2006.
Add to that the country's obsession with cricket, and it's understandable - imagine the fan bases of football, basketball, baseball and the WWE all following the same team and it will give you an idea of the scale of the following of the the Indian Cricket Team.
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SkyOS is not Open Source
If you look at Sky's official FAQ it says clear as day:
"5. Is SkyOS open-source?
No. SkyOS is a closed-source operating system."
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Re:zero
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Google cache
Since the site has obviously been slashdotted, here is the google cache for those who still wish to view the page.
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Re:Slashdotted in the mysterious future?
I'm an idiot. Here's the link to the page I was talking about above:
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:mAtB9IdidSUJ: www.skyos.org/aboutnew.php&strip=1
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Re:unwell
The Congressional resolution authorized Bush to invade Iraq as necessary to protect the national security of the US from WMD and terrorism from Hussein in Iraq. There were no WMD. And there was no terrorism threat from Hussein. All that was lies, made fuzzier by the last couple years of war in which terrorism has been created by the US military action in Iraq. Getting rid of "a dictator" is not a legal basis for that invasion.
As for the post to which you replied, you're both perpetuating the delusion that the Iraq war is for "us" - the American people who are killing, dying and paying for it. It's for Bush's political power, for Halliburton and the others who are getting the HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS from Iraq, those profiting from the oil that has "disappeared" under the past couple years of American administration, and the construction of an American oil industry government atop the biggest remaining oil reserve. Unless you're getting a check, stop deluding yourself about "removing a dictator" and "weeding out terrorists". If you're serious about that, let's get rid of Kim Jong Il, the Chinese mob government, the PLO, finish the war in Afghanistan, and cut out the Iran/Contra cancer in the CIA that has taken over Intelligence and foreign policy. Then we can all agree that the world is safer, and America saved us all again. -
the NewsForge / Jem Report AnalysisSince the introduction of the FreeBSD-5 branch, FreeBSD enthusiasts have been eagerly awaiting the day when the new codebase would stabilize. After much development and four previous releases, FreeBSD-5 has finally gone stable with version 5.3. But don't mistake a stable codebase with stable software. While the development team will no longer accept major changes to the base system, FreeBSD 5.3 still has bugs and problems.
FreeBSD is a complete Unix-like operating system entirely developed by a single large team of programmers. This is in stark contrast to GNU/Linux which, as a complete operating system, has no central, cohesive developer base and is packaged in myriad different ways by myriad different distribution projects and companies; and proprietary Unixes, which are closed-source, restrictively licensed, and work on a comparatively small number of usually proprietary hardware architectures. FreeBSD has historically been clean, fast, reliable, and scalable. It's easy to use, learn, set up, and navigate from the command line, has more than 10,000 software programs in the Ports system, runs on a wide variety of hardware, and can easily be used for either a desktop or a server.
The transition to 5.x
Until the release of 5.3, the most recent "production release" was the FreeBSD-4 series, which is presently at version 4.10 and has been deemed the "Legacy" release in the wake of the 5.x branch going to STABLE. FreeBSD-5 was supposed to be a grand introduction of new technology -- a revolutionary improvement to the tried and true 4.x branch -- but soon after it left the gate, it got caught up in developer politics and failed implementations of too-ambitious theories among other questionable design decisions, causing some developers to fork the FreeBSD-4 project into a separate and more focused operating system.
The ULE (which is not an acronym; its full name is SCHED_ULE as opposed to the older SCHED_4BSD) scheduler continues to have stability and performance problems and was totally disabled instead of being made the default process scheduler in 5.3 as planned. The mix of threading subsystems still yields problems with efficiency and stability. Also, the networking subsystem may now be multithreaded and therefore faster on SMP systems, but users with some implementations of the 3Com (SysKonnect/Yukon) gigabit LAN chip are now unable to access their network at all because of new bugs that have popped up in the driver; other SysKonnect/Yukon users have problems under heavy network traffic, along with those using Intel Pro/1000 chips. Unfortunately all of our test systems use these network chips for onboard LAN; coincidentally they are two of the most popular gigabit LAN chipsets used on modern motherboards from major manufacturers. We also experienced lockups during boot if a custom-compiled kernel did not have SMP enabled on a Hyper-Threaded computer. A list of these and other errata can be found here.
Considering the long list of significant problems in FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE, it would seem irrational to recommend that anyone switch a production server from 4.x or any previous known-working 5.x release to 5.3. Just the same, the FreeBSD project maintains a migration guide for this purpose.
A lost lead
FreeBSD 5.x enjoyed an excellent head start in the fully 64-bit AMD64 operating system arena, but now trails
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A Couple of Articles on the Matter
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Google Cache and others
A Google Cache is here: http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:BMsCMw5b1WoJ
: www.ursulakleguin.com/UKL_info.html+&hl=en
A list of general-purpose Slashdot-caches are here: http://slashdot.org/~davidwr/journal/92257
Mirrordot is down, and archive.org doesn't have the latest version of the author's home page. The site is too heavily slashdotted for the Coral Cache to pick it up either, but hopefully that will end soon. -
Re:This was just plain mean
Here is the Google cache of the page. The Coral Cache was going very slow for me.
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Re:This suprises me.
Like you point out, selling a console at a loss is by no means an absolute rule. But this new counter-myth that it was only three consoles is nonsense.
For example: add to that the Gamecube and Playstation 2. Nintendo themselves revealed (at Spaceworld 2001 - not the best link, but I am sick of wasting my time digging up great links for all you liars with no links that don't know what you are talking about) that the Gamecube was sold at an initial loss and is back to selling at a loss since it became $99. Sony had to expensively airlift consoles to make the US PS2 launch.
Other consoles have been sold at a loss, too. But the real point is that the standard used to determine if a console is sold at a loss right now is silly and inconsequential. No console makes back its R&D, advertising, and initial manufacturing setup costs in its early selling period. Materials + Manufacturing Labor = Retail cost is an indicator of nothing of real value in these discussions. All consoles are sold on the basis of achieving long-term profit, not a short-term breaking-even. -
Re:Cheap? Clean? when will we learnIf the halfwitted political loudmouths of society can be convinced this new form is "better" than the old form (whether it is or not) then we may get somewhere with it. If it ever works that is.
Don't get me wrong because I agree, but I am amazed when I see comments like this on a slashdot. This is the most liberal site I have ever seen in my life. Most on here voted for Kerry I would bet and don't even keep track of which party does the most to help things like this or hurt it. Most tree huggers are Democrats. The tree huggers are the ones trying to stop things like this. Bush has dedicated funds to this and I submitted the story in 2003 (rejected of course...was pro-Bush). Here is an html ver of the doc. here or the pdf if you prefer.
From the article: Friday, January 31, 2003By ROBERT STERNPLAINSBORO - After a five-year hiatus, the United States next month will rejoin internationalnegotiations to develop fusion energy as a commercial power source, U.S. Energy SecretarySpencer Abraham said yesterday.
5 year hiatas...who was in office then? Oh yeah democrats.
U.S. participation in construction of the $5 billion project would cost an estimated $500million in constant 2002 dollars over a 10-year period, according to the Department ofEnergy.
And people on here say Bush doesn't do anything to help with alternative fuel research all the time. Articles like this are rejected of course. From it you see:George Bush, an oilman, could wind up a sort of fuel-economy and alternative-fuel president.
He's already boosted mileage requirements for trucks 7%, to an average 22.2 miles per gallon for 2007 models. He's committed $1.7 billion to hydrogen-fuel research. And he has made decisions that helped the ethanol-fuel industry boost production to 3.4 billion gallons this year, double from when he took office.
In a second term, lobbyists and public policy veterans expect him to do even more for renewable fuels such as ethanol, reshape fuel-economy regulations in ways that could require even better mileage, and push a Republican Congress to pass an energy bill with generous tax credits for people who buy especially fuel-efficient vehicles.
So basically, the progress being made on fusion was funded in part by this administration and funding was cut by the previous. Anyone who mods this down is just a Bush basher and I plead to you now, don't hide the truth. The media already does that enough. I don't want a flamewar. I'm only talking about the last 2 administrations and the current topic of fusion.