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James Bond Peelable Automobile Paint
Anonymous Coward writes "Akzo Nobel has developed a unique temporary paint system which can peeled off after use. Known as Maskin, the product can be applied to any non-porous surface, such as a vehicle body or windows, without risk of damage to the original finish. Maskin (a combination of the words mask and skin) is available in eight basic colors, plus one transparent film, and can be mixed to create a wide spectrum of shades. When no longer required, the film can be peeled and disposed of using standard paint waste removal methods."
...so it's like colored glue?
Let me be the first to make the obligatory joke... Akzo Nobel might just get the Nobel prize for this!
I dunno about you, but wasn't this sorta thing done in like the Gumball Rally movie first? I think they had a car in that movie that they washed off the paint.....
It's either on the beat or off the beat, it's that easy.
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THe one from the movie the Jackal was much better. It required high presure water to take off.
...dump it in the street
I bet the Police are ecstatic about this innovation
just because your a schizophrenic doesn't mean people arn't really out to get you
I smeared paint all over my windows, now I can't see what I'm typing.
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I'm thinking this would make car thefts easier--just paint the stolen car another color if the heat gets too high. Same for any type of robbery, just peel the paint when done. In fact, is there any kind of legal use for this, since I can't think of any and didn't see anything in the article?
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And beyond the people who cant make up their mind what color they want their car to be, what exactly is the point of this? It seems like it could facilitate car theft, as well as many other criminal pursuits (Eg witness saw the bank robbers drive away in a cherry red ford, these guys are driving a white ford, so they must be ok)
... until this one is banned because of potential use by terrorists.
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HA! Michael Jackson has been using that on his face for decades.
Can you put down multiple coats in one spraying session, so that you can peel off single layers as they get dirty?
Maybe they can mix it with kevlar and then make it super-thin so that all new cars will come with 1,000 layers of this, and instead of waxing your car, you just peel off a skin every few washes.
Great. Now my wife is going to want me to repaint the car depending on what outfit she's wearing.
Oh man, the practical joke applications of this are enourmous. Pity it looks like it'd take a while to apply a full coat. Needs to be readable available in a spraycan.
The 'insta latex clothes' could be fun too...
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Seriously, though, I can see this being useful as a protective layer, though there are already companies that offer that service. Its a clear plastic "bra" that you can peel off and replace when the front of your car gets nicked up.
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...the riceburners will be all over this.
Body paint suddenly earns a new dimesion.
Wanted : A Signature.
//sarcasm// Next time someone wants to deface your car, they can use this stuff and they won't get in as much trouble because "You can peel it off loser, now hand me that project you did for me or I'm gonna beat the snot out of you!" //sarcasm over/// Seriously, removable paint is kind of cool because if you don't like it, you can remove it, but it's probably too expensive to be worth removing it.
My Austin Allegro had this in 1977.
Did anyone else see this on "Beyond 2000" in like... 1996?
I thought that was Johnny Dangerously.
"C'mon shelfpaper..."
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Change the paint color to heat the car in Winter, cool it in Summer.
Maybe advertising uses? There's only so much that can be done with vinyl films. Perhaps a base coat of this stuff then painted graphics would be more durable than vinyl and could be removed afterwards.
If the clearcoat is a complete UV blocker it could be used then ownership graphics applied. When a company is ready to get rid of the car, they have the clearcoat and graphics stripped leaving the basecoat.
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"Come on, shelf paper."
Might make criminal getaways a little easier; kind of like the 5 second paintjob you get in GTA3.
Maskin (a combination of the words mask and skin) Thank you CAPTAIN OBVIOUS.
The link to the movie "Jackal" is here:
http://imdb.com/title/tt0119395/
Libertas in infinitum
Oh please, this is old news. Earl Shive and Macco have been using this technology for years.
Avon has decided to release a line of makeup for your car.
Now maybe we can do away with specifically sized screen protectors, using the transparent stuff
I thought the headline said "Peeable Auto Paint"
Boy that would sting...
How about oil or gasoline spills?
The link to the movie Jackal is:
http://imdb.com/title/tt0119395/
Libertas in infinitum
What kind of file is that?
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Seriously, I have a 1992 GM P.O.S., the paint peels off it just like the description of this miracle product. So much for prior art I guess.
Anyone here see the Movied Taxi last year? They used this in the movie... about the only cool thing in the movie.... Hmmm... Now you have to remeber the color your car is everytime you change it.
speed racer, begining of the malange(sp?) episode I think. More a fabric coating than a paint though. I think I saw that cira 1974.
The taxis in our town have seriously ugly paint schemes. I'm not sure how they resell the cars when they are through with them. I never see cars with these paint schemes unless they are taxis.
Anyway, with this product, the taxi owner paints the car when he gets it. He does this anyway so there's no extra expense here. When he's ready for a new car he gets the car peeled. (I'm assuming that this is a lot cheaper than getting it painted.) He now has a car that he can sell with a like-new paint job because it has been protected by the peelable paint. The mechanicals may be crap but the outside of the car looks great. I bet it doubles the resale value of the car.
In effect this paint is the same idea as the magnetic signs that some people use on their vans. Of course, for the magnetic sign, the idea is that you get to keep the sign when you sell the vehicle. Plus it increases the resale value of the vehicle not to have a sign on it.
This has been used for years in paint industry, it's peelable coating .
henna tattoos for cars
It breaks my pluginses, my precious!
...they want their shit-ass, grainy, postage-stamp sized Windows video clip back.
Think about it for small or large auto racing teams. If you could peel off the paint and change graphics for sponsors it would be less involved than stripping conventional paint. It also wouldn't add any weight like an overspray.
That is not a link.
What, you think someone's gonna mod you up for TYPING THE ADDRESS to an imdb entry?
Something similar was done in the 1997 film "The Jackal" (Bruce Willis, Richard Gere). Willis' character spray painted a car one color, and, when he needed to avoid detection, sprayed it off with a hose in about 15 seconds. I guess this crazy inventor has been watching too many movies!
(Car is enveloped in flames. Paint begins to peel off.)
"Uh, Q, won't all paint peel if you apply fire to it?"
"Oh, grow up, 007, this is a breakthrough. I applied the process to my wife's convertible just the other day and we used it to great advantage on holiday."
Remember those cars from the 70's and 80's that LOOKED like they were convertables because they had that 'cool' cloth/vinyl covering on the roof?
Remember how 'great' it looked underneath that crap when it finally fell off? Rust-o-leum to the rescue! Hope this new stuff can do a better job keeping the moisture out, of course compared to those old Catalina's and Seville's, ANYTHING would be better...
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Ether NBCsports or FoxSports demonstrated a decal technology which they covered a complete NASCAR stock racer (think bigger than any car blown up by Bond -- CAR, not TANK, CAR) in a thin printed film. After a race or a sponsor's age, they don't repaint the car, they just rip the film off with their bare hands and slap on a new one.
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for people to peel off when they're drunk.
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I'll keep this in mind next time I do Trading Spaces.
640YB ought to be enough for anybody.
Ack! For those of us who actually work with water-borne polymer systems, there's an incredible lack of detail here. One of the challenges in getting a coating that's easily removable is making a polymer system (either solution, emulsion, or dispersion) that forms a highly uniform, cohesive, and integral film that doesn't have a great deal of affinity (either physical or chemical) for the surface to which it's applied. Aside from wondering what the polymer technology is, I have to wonder how much of this is surface-specific.
Did they rely on an application surface that has a very low surface energy? If so, what happens when the car's "original" finish has either a lousy morphology (non-smooth) and/or a high surface energy (overcomes surface tension of the applied liquid - think water beading on a waxed car [low surface energy] versus water "sheeting" on raw steel)? Did they solve the problem strictly through polarity or specific adhesion, and if so, what happens if the "original" finish is of a different chemistry?
And the polymer - maybe they relied on one that has high cohesion but lousy adhesion. Okay, but if it's a hard/high-modulus polymer, how does it not flake off easily? If it's a softer polymer, then how does it not stretch or sag? Tough to do when you're not relying on adhesive bonding to the substrate to help with structure.
Too many questions, and not enough answers in the linked docs or in a Google search. Fooey.
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Uhm.... Your link doesn't contain any of the words: "tank", "paint", "color" (or "colour"), "designation", or "NATO".
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Play GTA much?
Here's a possible legal use. You could use it to.. get this.. change the color of your car temporarily. Always wanted to paint your car yellow, but don't want to lose resale value from sanding off the original paint (not to mention replacing it with a faddish color)? Voila. I, for one, welcome our new removable overcoat overlords.
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How about paint with little duckies like Johnny's girl put on their getaway car? As I remember it everyone else rinsed off the paint coating... Johnny Dangerously was the one who peeled it off?
This significantly lowers the barriers to a drive by goatse....the consequences could be dire.....
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I remember watching a inventors thing on telly about a decade ago & they were demenstrating peel off paint.
Some girl was driving along in a ferrari & decided she didn't like the colour & pulled up got out & just peeled the paint off to reveal another colour underneath, she then said "eke I don't like that colour either" (well words to that effect) & started to paint the car a 3rd colour (using of all thing a roller, like one uses to paint the inside of houses) from a big plastic bucket of paint that was then magically next to the car.
My friend bought a new car.. and the paint is already peeling off!
Do you have ANY idea how painfull it will be to get that layer of paint out of the crack of your ass? How about your front? Do you really want to listen to your parents screaming in the middle of the night? You sicko!
When I am not spending insane amounts of time behind a keyboard I pick up my second favorite tool (airbrush) and do some custom painting. I use a automotive paint called Auto Air which is a water based product. If you make a mistake with this stuff you just spray on a little amonia and water (I use windex) and this stuff just runs right off. To make it permenant you clear coat it with a urethane clear which penetrates and seals it from damage. I could imagine spraying a entire car with it then going to the local car wash and wasing it right off as long as it was not cleared.
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The Knightrider transam had multiple layers of some plastic on the body panels. This was one of the best known "secrets" of their special effects folks. It allowed the layer to be peeled off like an onion skin if it was damaged in shooting. It was big noise when it was leaked the first time.
Everything new is history that has been forgotten.
At least this process might become available widely. Maybe.
- Tjp
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This sounds like something little kids would do.
Dept of Jusice lables creators of Maskin terrorists and now require tracking devices in all motor vehicles.
Disclaimer: I work for a company, but I don't speak for them.
And any military that relies solely on a paintjob for identification is toast anyway. Perhaps you've forgotten about radios, IFF, secure codes, and the like.
Gee. Thanks for clarifying.
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Think robbery. Don't have to ditch the car any more. Just peel it. You could even add a few other removal tchotchkes to the car like cell phone antennas, a fake license plate, a stick-on spoiler, etc and pop them all off as soon as you're hidden from the fuzz.
It's rare that you're presented with a knob whose only two positions are Make History and Flee Your Glorious Destiny.
Cheerleaders will LOVE this stuff!
I'm sure someone better informed can correct me if I'm wrong, but this sort of tech has been used on German taxis for years.
You know all the German taxis are those relatively nice Mercedes, but they are that heinous mustard-vomit yellow? That's an applied film, usually over a Mercedes of any number of colors. That way, when they are done using it, whoosh off comes the film and there they have a car which not only is a decent color (= decent resale value) but a 3-yr-old used car whose finish looks just like new.
Very cool, and I've wondered for years why they don't do that here for fleet and lease cars - not so much the color issue, but in terms of protecting a car's resale value.
-Styopa
I can put it on my car, take off the license plate, rob a few banks, and peel it off 5 minutes later with no worries of the cops looking for a 'red' car of the same make and model as mine.
Believe me, if I started murdering people, there would be none of you left.
I didn't even bother trying to download the video - I know what happens when those things are linked from the front page - but I read through the release, and the PDF, and did a quick search to see if I could find anything. I'd love to know more, for the satisfaction of professional curiousity alone, if nothing else.
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lol, dumbest thing I've ever heard, bar none;
Great! So now the white ford pick up truck that speed away from your local 7-11 will be red by the time the police find it. Sounds like a great product.
...But im going to have nightmares about that video for years to come.
These type of coatings have been used in advertising for years. It's common in a commercial to want a different colored car but they want to remove the paint later to restore the original color. They are generally called peel coats. Ask any auto customizer in the entertainment industry.
Shocked it made Slashdot. They've been around longer than SUVs.
If I recall correctly, this was premiered in The Jackal. I can't recall any Bond film with this.
Direct away from face when opening.
and aside from me only understanding 1 phrase ("James Bond film, Goldfinger"), wondering if it was game show footage at times, and not understanding why he eventually painted himself with the stuff, I'm still not sure what I just watched, and I'm a little more confused about life in general.
I want those 2 minutes of my life back please.
This would make a great paint on clear plastic raincoat! Just put a can of this stuff in your
purse before you go out.
When it rains, spray yourself.
Presto! Instant raincoat!
Cleara
if this peelable paint concept is new, what did I spend hours peeling off pallets in art class when I got bored?
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The female bank robbers used it on their getaway vehicle.
Jesus was a compassionate social conservative who called individuals to sin no more.
Bigdeal (a combination of the words big and deal). This is slashdot news because.....
...for about a decade now, because some silly law requires every cab to have the same odd color. And that color lowers the resale price the same way as a paintjob would.
what about the left-over material ? Its just adding to to waste streams we (the world) have to dispose of or reprocess. There's enough as it is to deal with
I sat down to write a new sig tonight and all I did was make the chair warm.
*cough* advertisement *cough*.
I recall a show called "Towards 2000" (yes it was that old) that had a paint which would be used to protect a car's finish during transportation. This paint would be applied with a roller or brush and when dry will create a rubber or plastic like coating over the paint. It could then be peeled off when not needed.
The paint had the same characteristics as an interior acrylic house paint that was painted over and enamel paint without the proper undercoat.
it is only after a long journey that you know the strength of the horse.
It's a $330 option on new Lexus models. Nothing new here, folks; move along.
Ever notice how Nextel Cup cars sport different paint jobs from week to week? These aren't paint jobs- they are whole car sticker jobs. We could be changing design schemes on our cars from week to week if we had the bread to do it. Pull on off, paste another on.
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Based on the name I wonder if this was develoepd as a kind of masking tape. It seems like could see this used to quickly mask off a car... simply spray some around a tail light and trim and peel off what you don't want masked. Or I could be wrong
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terrorists are going to want to use this for their cars after all.
Bondo. James Bondo.
Let's play Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse. I'll be Pestilence.
So If I own a white car, and paint it red, does that make my insurance go up?
you didn't think those colourful ads covering busses were PAINTED, did you?
Known as Maskin
.pdf in dutch with no warning? That was a waste of bandwith, and now I have to go delete this useless thing from my download folder... grrrrr!
Why are you linking to a
You can't take the sky from me...
High School spring break in Panama City, FL. (Where else right?). Getting the obligatory air brushed T-shirt when I notice the artist finishes by spraying some kind of clear coat over the shirt's art. "What's that for?" I ask. "Keeps the paint from washing off." He replies
"Have you done cars?"
"Yea, lots. But that uses a special paint... blah blah..."
"Hmmmm... Well, what if you used T-shirt paint on the car instead and didn't put the finish coat on it?"
"Hmmmm... I dunno. It should wash off but I don't know for sure."
"Hmmmm... Let's find out."
"Are you sure dude?"
"Yea, let's give it a shot."
Five hours later, my car was covered bumper-to-bumper with beautiful air brushed beach scenes. Yes, I was sober before, during, and after my decision to do this. Man, you thought the "Tony & Julie forever" license plates were tacky, this was incredible! After baking in the Sun for 5 days, it didn't exactly wash off too easy, but it did come off with a lot of elbow grease.
Spring break hotel: $200 :-)
Beer for week: $250
Completely air brushed car: $80 cash
Look on parents' face when I pulled in the driveway...
This one gang kept wanting me to join cause I'm pretty good with a bo staff.
Anyone remember the "Beyond 2000" show on discovery a few years ago? They had a feature on some of the coolest things, like rimless wheels, and a real-time audio system that replaced the rattling buzzing 4-cylinder noise from your car and substituted the rumble of an american V8 in its place. They did a feature on a peelable finish, by rolling the finish onto a Lamborghini, then peeling it off, showing the original paint beneath.
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I can't see how that could possibly be construed as intended to provoke an angry response...
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"Oh, you're gonna love this one... duckies and bunnies."
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I do detect sarcasm in this, but think of the other appliations:
If it's easier/faster/cheaper than a real paintjob, having ghost-cars would be much easier. In fact, if needed for some situation, a patrol car without the top lights could be easily disguised and then restored for normal operations afterwards.
So yes, they might actually like this. On the other side, it could also be used in getaway cars, etc etc... but for criminals it's probably easier just to steal a vehicle and swap the plates.
GM perfected peeling paint years ago. How many Chevys have you seen missing paint on the roof or hood? I've seen a lot.
Thanks for the links, but even if you had completely pulled all that out of your ass, I'd still be going, "hiryuu>>>> me".
There are two kinds of people: 1) those who start arrays with one and 1) those who start them with zero.
Ok, who else read this as "James Bond Peeable Automobile Paint?"
"Peelcoat" paints of some sort or another have been available to TV and Advertising for many many years.
Maybe this stuff is just more durable?
I like microcars
What's the legitimate use of temporary tattoos?! After a robbery or something, you could just wash off the tattoos, and you will no longer fit the description of a guy with fantastic tattoos! These things will never catch on.
Don't ya'll mean Johnny Dangerously from the movie Johnny Dangerously ? I love that movie. :-)
Do we really need another disposable chemical in our ecosystem? This can't be a good thing in the long run.
All we need. More disposable items for our disposable society, and for what purpose? So people can hide or change the color of their car?
At least they could try to make it friendly to the environment..
same result as latex paint without a primer... whats the big deal?
I am eastbound in pursuit of a white Lamborghini. This is not a recording.
If I tell you boys something, you won't think I've been drinking, will you? The white Lamborghini has vanished, but there's a red Lamborghini behind me honking its horn... correction, it's passing me. And it's got two great looking chicks in it!
and you expect them to divest their newly developed process and trade secrets to the competition?
"the product can be applied to any non-porous surface, such as a vehicle body or windows"
I thought Windows was like a swiss cheese????
...already got that paint.
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I'm sure that must be very frustrating for you both. :)
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And now in English?
I can't wait.
What's next? How about disposable pets?
Let's make a decision and then wait and see whether it's socially-acceptable, and if not, get rid of it. That will make the world a better place.
Then again, maybe this story is for the secret agents spread across the planet who check Slashdot for the latest tech advancements they can use in their job...
Why is this tripe getting green-lighted on Slashdot?
Cheap paint peels like crazy, i'm sure it's almost as good as this james bond paint which costs ten times more, but does the same thing. Just go to the discount section to your local hardware store, and look for paint! Then pour it on your car! But make sure it's cheap paint.... DISGUISE IN A CAN! (lollerskates)
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as far as i know its been in use since diabolik, a horrible movie that some of you may recognize from mst3k
Not by any means - but there's a lot that can be done to explain the technology without giving away the whole thing. A good coatings chemist could tell you worlds about acrylics without ever disclosing proprietary information.
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Taking the rim off a wheel just makes it smaller! What a stupid idea.
They whose government reduces their essential liberties for temporary security, receive neither liberty nor security.
Why not just use Smart Paper and change your car's paint job whenever you want?
Maskin (a combination of the words mask and skin)
Mastotobv - a combination of the words "master of the obvious"
Why, I once saw "a blue ford with ....oh, you're never gonna believe this - duckies, and bunnies?".
Once.
You are checking your backups, aren't you?
New Dodges shed thier paint after 2 years.
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"Maskin (a combination of the words mask and skin)..." Wow. No shit huh?
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"Maskin" means "machine" in all the Scandinavian languages. While this product sounds really useful, the misunderstandings would be plentiful.
Anybody else misread that as "Peeable"? My first thought was they are really straining to come up with new gadgets for the next bond flick.
Have a couple home made remote controlled DALEKs: One with dynamite, speakers and a machine gun attached, the other with a cavernous empty body, and a garbage can head. Have the bots tell everyone in the room that if anyone tries to leave, they will be shot, and that if the robots are attacked, or too many people are successful at leaving, then the robots will blow up.
They are instructed to fill the empty Dalek with cashola. The first Dalek will stay behind, and keep the custormers and employees from leaving, and will detonate if any exploding dye packs are found by the criminals to have gone off. The armed, bomb-bearing and Money Filled Dalek would then wheel outside to a pre-determined drop site (like a fake manhole) and drop it's load into a subterranean cable car/ railroad/ rc vehicle where it would be express routed to a safe pickup point where the thieves would check for any exploded dye packs and lo-jack devices. The criminals could even wait there themselves underground if they were feeling cocky.
Who is going to approach a machinegun armed explosive booby trapped dalek squatting over a manhole cover to follow you? It'll take the cops hours to procure the sewer maps and cover all the exits. You can take your sweet time. ( although I like the idea of a cablecar or other vehicle to provide one more level of assurance between me and apprehension. Knowing your way around the sewers would give you the Ninja Turtle home advantage. You could have many escape routes and booby traps etc all planned out while your opponents ( the cops ) would be taken unawares.
No sence in causing unneccessary mahem by blowing up the Daleks anyway. You would have to have purchased all parts with cash, at obscure different places at least a year in advance so that they could not be traced to you. No parts allowed that could not have been bought at hundereds of places. Purchase non-locally. Blowing stuff up would not cover your tracks. Actually, neither real bullets or dynamite would be needed unless the heist were to be part of a string. But It's better to pick your targets for high payoff and never do the same trick twice. Like a magician.
Sorry, I used to work for a competitor! :-)
Graham