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Re:With the exception of the LA Times
Oh you're one of those bathroom morons.
By insisting that people stick to the bathroom of their birth gender, you're insisting this dude use women's bathrooms:
https://www.advocate.com/sites...
Why DO you want burly bearded men in women's bathrooms? Wanna go there yourself or something?
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Re: Hate speech
Two seconds of googling gives this from 2010 in Arkansas:
https://www.advocate.com/news/...
But I suspect you'll move your goalposts now, right?
This isn't some debate club bullshit here, this is fucking real, and it affects us every god damned day. Do your own searching in future instead of trying for the citation needed ddos.
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Re: Who cares about bathrooms?
A law against a man in a lady's restroom is to prevent sexual assault.
In that case it makes things far, far worse. This law would force guys like this to use the women's bathroom:
http://www.gaystarnews.com/wp-...
http://www.advocate.com/sites/...There is no way you can tell that those guys are trans just by looking at them, so how are you supposed to know that any random guy who wonders in to the bathroom is legally required to be there?
Of course, sexual assault in bathrooms is extremely rare and a better solution would be to install panic alarms in the stalls. This isn't about protecting people, it's about enforcing religious bigotry and expressing disgust and moral outrage.
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Re:Cue the hipocrisy...
Bringing up 538 is pretty random. But since you did. He was the one pollster who consistently said that Trump had at least a 30% chance of winning.
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Re:TV BS
I'd posit that there are a good chunk people far enough on one side of the Kinsey scale that "many" would be descriptive. I think I remember hearing from somewhere it was like 10% of the population.
What I've become aware of, however, is that the condition of preferring same-sex sexual contact to opposite-sex sexual contact--which up until a little while ago I had been mistakenly assuming was "gay"--is quite different from the gay lifestyle.
For example, Peter Thiel is apparently not gay. He merely prefers same-sex sexual contact.
Suddenly what you're saying here makes an incredible amount of sense and is a straightforward observation since I assume you're talking about people who live the gay lifestyle. (Examples of the gay lifestyle: Rent, Angels in America, whatever film the guy who directed Silence of the Lambs did as an apology to gays for the confusion about Buffalo Bill's character, Rocky Horror Picture Show, etc. Those of us who aren't dying of AIDS because we don't fuck everything that moves don't count as gay.)
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Crying Wolf
The problem here is authoritarianism, not partisan name calling. If the federal government couldn't run your life for you, you wouldn't have to worry about that in the first place. But let's look at the list in detail, shall we? I'll come back to it at the end, but this is a good summary about why this is 'crying wolf' that sums up a lot of what I'm trying to point out here.
> The cult of tradition
It's not clear how this makes anyone bad. Is it wrong to enjoy Thanksgiving with your family? Or just because we label anything we dislike as a "cult." Usually the problem with cults is that they go out and, say, cause violence or such, which we'll discuss below.
> The rejection of modernism
Luddism is a problem, but declaring "this is new, it must be better" isn't exactly logical and is funny to contrast with "action for action's sake." If you want Luddites, just look at the email between Hillary & Colin Powell and their rejection of operational security.
> The cult of action for action’s sake
This is really weak. For one, Trump's actions were purposeful--he won by spending far less than Hillary did. For another, we're calling people fascist for what? Working too hard? It's true that Trump held a lot of political rallies and Hillary held very few, but she might not have done so badly if she hadn't assumed the "blue firewall" would magically hold and had actually cared what those people wanted.
This is also fluff. You could apply it to lots of politicians (businesses, etc.) that most people wouldn't label as "fascist."
> Disagreement is treason
Finally we get somewhere! Sure, that's bad. Two minute hates? We've seen plenty about Donald (every other Slashdot story on Trump?). So long as we declare someone the bad guy, though, it's okay, right? I mean, just look at all that violence at the rallies! Oh, wait, the Democrats staged that. Maybe the intolerance of gays? Err, wait, it's the Advocate that decided Peter Thiel wasn't really gay any more because he backed Trump. And Trump was up there holding the gay pride flag. But it was upside-down! Because the most important thing about the gay flag is its orientation, right?
:)Oh! He complained about the media too!
You know, the CNN that told us it was illegal to read wikileaks (a lie from a CNN lawyer who should know better) so we wouldn't find out that they rigged the debates as we can establish from DKIM-authenticated emails that cover the body & body hash. And we have Google's signature on it as well as Hillary's email server. Or how they sold donors access to the Washington Post's party while appearing to go behind their own lawyers' backs?
So, uhh, remind me why it's fascist to complain about people rigging debates again? Or why 2 minute hates are bad... unless the press holds them?
:)> Fear of difference
That's odd to hear given how many sites like Reddit are all for censoring the opinions they don't like. It's their site, of course, but I'm allowed to criticize them for it. And I'm far more afraid of these people who would attack someone for voting the wrong way. Feel free to check that on Snopes. They'll say the truth is "mixed" because they feel it very important to know that there was a fender bender just prior to the g
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Everything has a new meaning: Racism, Sexism, etc
The Left is logically challenged. In their minds, anything that is pro-Clinton is progressive. Anything pro-Trump is racist and sexist.
The absurdity of this position was taken to an extreme when the majority of white women voted for Trump in the election, at which point the majority of white women were accused of being
.... wait for it... "sexist".Yes, the majority of white women are apparently sexist according to the angry left. Why? Because they didn't vote for Clinton.
When pressed for a reason how it could possibly be true that a majority of white women were sexist, the kooks on the left came back with this gem:
The majority of white women were essentially *forced* to vote for Clinton because: Men. These women were unable to think for themselves because of a form of Stockholm syndrome called "Internalized Misogyny".
No really. It's true: http://www.advocate.com/commen...
This is the kind of batsh*t crazy thinking that comes out of the Left these days.
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Re:"Gay Culture" is blind devotion then?
I wasn't aware the "culture" of being gay meant you had to be a blind sheep and vote for every Democrat, no matter how much they hate gay culture...
GP is mocking this recent article: http://www.advocate.com/commen...
Which makes the argument that yes - if you don't blindly vote Democrat, you can no longer call yourself gay. Ridiculous I know, and the author is getting rightly castigated in the comments.
I can only hope that the author was paid enough be the Clinton campaign to make writing such tripe worthwhile.
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Re: a win for open source
But, at least, that hateful homophobic bigot is no longer running Mozilla. If that's not a win, what can possibly be?
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Re:Discrimination against who exactly?
A lot of transsexuals never have "the surgery", whatever you think "the surgery" is. But they still look like the gender they present as and would be far more at home in a washroom that matches their gender expression than one that matches their genitalia.
For example, the NC law would force this man to use the women's restroom. And it would force this woman to use the men's room.
And what's even more ironic is that while male-to-female transsexuals are pretty much all over the map as far as sexual orientation goes, the vast majority of female-to-male transsexuals are attracted to women, so they've just been thrown a license to party in the ladies' room!
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Re: Salary Discrepancy
Abortion in the United States is legal, whether or not you like it. Yet states like Texas introduce regulations that make it all but impossible for a woman to obtain that which is perfectly legal.
The "where I can pee" thing refers to the North Carolina law that says I have to use the men's room even though I'm a transgender woman and don't look even vaguely male. Amusingly, it would force this guy to use the ladies' room because he has XX chromosomes.
Sneaking religion into public schools refers to the teaching of Creationism in biology class.
It doesn't matter that it's legal. So was slavery. States still exercised their rights to ban that.
Where you can pee? If that is the worst suffering you go through for being transgender, then that just shows the US people are pretty tolerant. If we go the route of allowing people to use whatever restroom they want based on what sex they feel like they are that day, we might as well just make all bathrooms unisex.
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Re: Salary Discrepancy
Abortion in the United States is legal, whether or not you like it. Yet states like Texas introduce regulations that make it all but impossible for a woman to obtain that which is perfectly legal.
The "where I can pee" thing refers to the North Carolina law that says I have to use the men's room even though I'm a transgender woman and don't look even vaguely male. Amusingly, it would force this guy to use the ladies' room because he has XX chromosomes.
Sneaking religion into public schools refers to the teaching of Creationism in biology class.
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Re:Misogyny Gets What it Deserves
Disregard sibling comment, I suck cocks.
See the comments section here.
TERFs are alive and well. Here are some choice comments. (Not accommodating Slashdot's missing unicode support.)
Wendy Lev Â
A women's festival's end where females found freedom, safety, community often for the first time in their lives, is celebrated. This is misogynistic to the core. And lesbophobic. No wonder many lesbians stop supporting orgs that are supposed to stand up for them. And stop supporting trans women.
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Wendy Lev Â
Elle Wong, Im so done with hateful bigots like you, having no clue what women deal with from birth on, and having no respect. That harass lesbians because we arent into penis. Get a grip, the world doesnt revolve around you.
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Responding to Elle Wong  Berea College
THANK YOU TRANS JESUS now this bastion of privilege and exclusion can finally die
Charlotte Schnook  University of Wisconsin Milwaukee
Sure, because women are so privileged... Sheesh....
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Responding to Clara Jackson  Works at Center for Spiritual Living Greater Dayton
I thought the same thing... it is a very old story. It is a private business and she isn't breaking any laws, so ultimately it is her decision as the business owner as to what she does... it is just such a shame that people are so unwilling to engage in constructive dialogue...everyone seems so intent on finding ways to prove their point and few seem willing to consider another viewpoint. So long as that is the primary method of "communication" the struggle will continue... not only here but in partisan politics and anywhere there is significantly differing viewpoints... so sad... if only we could respect ourselves and others enough to feel engage in communication with the objective of understanding instead of being right.
Katie Berger Tremaine  Author/Novelist at K. L. Tremaine
Dialogue was attempted for 22 years, you know that, right? It's only in the last couple of years that boycott was called for, because of the ongoing pattern of open contempt from MWMF.
(Note: it would seem I'm doing the exact same thing Jackson is talking about here, but the reason is clear and Tremaine hits the nail on the head. It sounds like the only reason MWMF is closing their doors is because they can't get any artists any more due to their own boneheadedness.)
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Charlotte Schnook (again) Â University of Wisconsin Milwaukee
Exactly! Isn't so funny how those to claim to be women, don't understand why women would need to have a space for their shared healing and celebration? We whom have done our research know why they don't get it: because women aren't a class to them, they aren't humans with feelings, just sex objects to be appropriated...
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etc, etc
War never changes.
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Re:Misogyny Gets What it Deserves
The Michigan Womyn's Music Festival had its final event last year. It's dead. One more group of TERFs turfed.
Now if any pharmacy tries to stigmatize you for your meds, there's a simple solution - report them to the head office. You can be sure it will stop damned fast. And in the meantime, if part of rape culture is about feeling guilty, that part can also be dealt with - refuse to feel guilty. Don't accept the stigma. Ultimately, the only person who can make you feel guilty is yourself, if you allow yourself to buy into their mindset that you *should* feel guilty.
Feminism is going to slowly die out. 60% of all university graduates are women. That is 50% more women than men. As they work their way up in the professions and the old guard dies off, men are going to become the minority at every level. Men, on the other hand, are not entering the professions in anywhere near the same numbers, which means that the imbalance in incomes will tilt towards women as the non-professional jobs see more competition for fewer posts thanks to increased automation.
It's not going to happen tomorrow, or this decade, but it IS going to happen, and it's too late to stop it.
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Re:They Made Mozilla Their Bitch For a Reason
Damn, am I ever so happy (as always) that the proven tech leader was ousted as Mozilla's CEO in favor of the former head of marketing.
Considering the chronology, one can make a very believable argument, that Brendan Eich's donation to an anti-gay marriage group was publicized because he was objecting to the DRM. Would make a good Hollywood plot some day.
The faggots, of course, think it was all about "homophobia".
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Re:OP here
For one thing, these things are reinforcing transphobia.
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Re:No excuse for not hiring more trannies and sjw'
The reason I would suggest GGP talk to a psychologist is because somehow GGP has the delusion that there's anybody who would rather have a trans woman as an employee.
Employers actively discriminate against male-to-female transsexuals. Female-to-male transsexuals reported no loss of earnings, and increased respect.
Before that sex change think about your next paycheck
You might expect that anybody who has had a sex change, or even just cross-dresses on occasion, would suffer a wage cut because of social stigmatization. Wrong, or at least partly wrong. Turns out it depends on the direction of the change: the study found that earnings for male-to-female transgender workers fell by nearly one-third after their gender transitions, but earnings for female-to-male transgender workers increased slightly.
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Ben Barres, a female-to-male transgender neuroscientist at Stanford, found that his work was more highly valued after his gender transition. “Ben Barres gave a great seminar today,” a colleague of his reportedly said, “but then his work is much better than his sister’s.”
Dr. Barres, of course, doesn’t have a sister in academia.
3) Poverty is a massive problem in the trans community.
Transgender respondents were nearly four times more likely to have a household income of less than $10,000, compared to the general population, Injustice at Every Turn found. They were unemployed at twice the rate of the general population, or roughly between 10 percent and 14 percent throughout 2008, the year the survey was conducted.
Trans Americans 4 times more likely to be living in poverty
In one of its most striking findings, MAP and CAP report that trans people are nearly four times more likely to have a yearly household income below $10,000 (15 percent vs. 4 percent of the nontrans population). The numbers go up if a trans individual is a person of color, with Asian American/Pacific Islander and Latino trans folks nearly six times as likely to be living in poverty as their API or Latino cisgender counterparts.
Maybe they see us as a threat because many of us are forced to either work for (much) lower wages or work the streets.
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Re:Where's Tim Cook's activism now?Tim Cook's take on Chinese treatment of gays?
Not favorable if this article on shock therapy is to be believed.
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Re:It's not feminism at this point.
But they have only so much time, and if every potential target says "hey, bring it on", what are they going to do? As for doxxing me, I'm already completely out, both on and off the net. And others are purposefully "outing" themselves to help educate the masses as to what effects their attitudes have on us, and to fight the culture of shame.
I already have one troll who regularly goes through my posting history and crap-floods after almost every post for days on end, but it doesn't bother me, and I really feel sorry for him. I replied often enough to get it all on the record, and now I just ignore him.
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Re:Shrug
So he was bisexual.
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Re:Good
Ecuador should be perfect for him, as the Ecuadorean government refuses to stop camps that participate in rape, because converting homosexuals into good straight Christians is such a worthy cause and rape is a pittance. I mean you shouldn't do it, but what's really the bigger crime?
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Re:So what?
Coincidentally, just today: http://www.advocate.com/print-issue/current-issue/2012/07/06/obama-we-trust?page=0,0
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Re:Catholics should endorse condoms
It's even worse than that. Apparently it is OK to use a condom, but only if you are a male prostitute...
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Re:Not until Google+ allows pseudonyms
Really so what you want is a place where you can hide when you want to but snipe from the bushes.
It's not about sniping, its about not being sniped.
Yes Facebook has been used as evidence why ever not?
The problem is that a lot of info there might be subject to gross misinterpretation. A photo taken out of context, viewed by somebody who wasn't at the event can give you a very different picture then what really happened. It also gives a very unrealistic view of somebodies life, just because someones Facebook account is full of party picture doesn't means he parties a lot, it might simply mean that he only post party pictures. And who knows, that beer funnel, it might have been filled with alcohol-free beer.
I doubt that people just a little outside the norm will have a problem with Google+ or Facebook.
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Won't someone please think of the Children
How on earth are the people using Government computers supposed to "research" all of the dangers and issues associated with Child Pornography if they can't find it?
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/christian-mp-fred-nile-engulfed-in-net-porn-scandal/story-e6frf7l6-1225913110721
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/nsw-mp-fred-nile-denies-porn-has-been-viewed-on-computers-in-his-office/story-e6frg6nf-1225913267507
http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/09/03/nsw-parliament%E2%80%99s-flawed-prn-hunt/
http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/370016/child_porn_alarm_nsw_parliament/
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Re:The real question
Ahem:
http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2010/04/05/ACLU_Investigating_Fake_Prom/
An entire school full of bigots. Teachers and students and administration. You can't get shit like this outside of the South. My wife lived in Mobile, AL for most of her highschool years (she's originally from Kansas). Says it was like living on another planter, and not a fun one.
Just to add, my girlfriend lived (and I suppose brag about being on slashdot AND having a girlfriend, if I could only get out of the this basement....) in Richmond. She got called racial slurs, got nasty notes, keyed car, etc.. Worst place she ever lived as far as racism goes, which includes, California, New York, several European countries, an African country, a South American Country and an East Asian country.
So yeah, I'd agree, the South is pretty racist.
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Re:The real question
Ahem:
http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2010/04/05/ACLU_Investigating_Fake_Prom/
An entire school full of bigots. Teachers and students and administration. You can't get shit like this outside of the South. My wife lived in Mobile, AL for most of her highschool years (she's originally from Kansas). Says it was like living on another planter, and not a fun one.
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Re:Obviously
I hate Fox too, but I have a link for you. O'Reilly recently raked a Catholic Church rep over the coals. Why? Because a private Catholic school refuse to re-enroll two kids, on account that their parents were a lesbian couple. The end times are here.
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He is failing in many other fronts too
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Re:Wow.
Good luck negotiating with your employer for health benefits for all 4 of your wives.
Yes, I would like to see ALL tax breaks eliminated, including the joint tax return and mortgage interest subsidy that currently benefit me greatly. Using the tax code to encourage some behaviors and discourage others leads inevitably to corruption as people try to tweak the code to favor themselves. Ideas like this are the modern equivalent to the Romans guaranteeing free "bread and circus" which contributed in no small part to their downfall. The ideal tax would be to simply have the government confiscate 10% of every transaction that contributes to the GDP, with no exemptions. This would have the side effect of forcing the government to run itself on an average of 10% of the GDP. -
How about the state of California...
...that just spent US$73 million dollars arguing over Proposition 8 - should there be same sex marriage in the state of California.
I'm not American, or gay, but it fucking shits me when I see this sort of money being thrown around - in the middle of this epic credit crisis, no less - over something as utterly trivial as whether or not gay people can get married, when there's actual, serious, important things all over the world that get practically no funding.
I don't know how much money came from where but the AP article I read indicates that (unsurprisingly) lots of it comes from various religious organisations, including the Mormon Church which various sources say have raised between US$8 million and US$17 million alone.
Pretty sad state of affairs, really.
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Re:But what if youv got the AIDS?
You have AIDS.
Yes, you have AIDS.
I hate to tell you, boy, you have AIDS.
You got the AIDS.
You may have caught it when you stuck that filthy needle in here.
Or maybe all that unprotected sex which we hear.
It isn't clear, but what we're certain of is that you have AIDS.
Yes, you have AIDS.
Not HIV, but full-blown AIDS.
Be sure that you see that this is not HIV, but full blown AIDS.
Not HIV, but full-blown AIDS.
I'm sorry, I wish it was something less serious, but it's AIDS.
You've got the AIDS.
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Re:I don't get it.
I realize they're a small minority, but this may have a chilling effect on transsexuals.
Some cops & security personnel throw a fit if you're presenting as a woman but you have an "M" on your ID.
Right now, there are 50 separate jurisdictions with their own standards for how & when you can get new ID issued with your new gender. Some say you can change it if you're living full-time as a woman (pre-op). Some say you have to have sexual reassignment surgery first. I think there are even some states that say you can't change it. The point is, right now you can shop around and move to a state that's going to make the change easy on you. And, if they say you can't, then you can at least deal with bureaucrats on the state level to get policies changed.
If the DHS can set the standard for what information is on the card and how states share it electronically, I'll bet they also have the power to dictate the process to get that information changed. And with the current bunch in DC, that's very frightening for those who don't fit into their conservative moral cookie cutter.
An article in The Advocate (NSFW, suggestive ads, exposed flesh, no dangly bits though) from a trans woman covers some of the problems with the current, fractured ID system and touches on how Real ID may make things even worse.
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Re:Route around that censorship.
I have a 6 year old so this hasn't come up yet. Are you telling me that if a kid tries to go to http://www.advocate.com/ or something it won't work?
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Re:So...What's the problem? They don't make anyone very much money (except maybe condom manufacturers).
It's more then that. Those things COST money. Condoms, needles, books, pamphlets, and teachers all cost money. In many cases the areas that need them are unable to afford them. Then comes the issue of once you have teachers how do you get people to go to them. Then once you have that solved how do you get people to believe them (I know a problem in many areas of Africa is people giving more credence to ritual and tradition then to educators.
What's the problem? They don't make anyone very much money (except maybe condom manufacturers).
It's not only the US. For exambleHowever, in Swaziland, where nearly 40% of the nation's adults are HIV-positive, King Mswati--often criticized for not doing more to promote monogamy and condom use in the nation--canceled all World AIDS Day events. And in South Africa, home to more than 5 million HIV-positive people, the most of any country in the world, health minister Manto Tshabalala-Msimang--called "Dr. No" by AIDS activists because of her opposition to antiretroviral drugs--repeated her support of eating carrots, spinach, beetroot, and garlic as the preferred way for HIV-positive people to fight their infections.http://www.advocate.com/news_detail_ek
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Re:Firefox
Highlight the text in a webpage, right click. You get "Search for " Sounds like the good folks at mozilla already have this feature.
Damn. Had I only read this page I could have saved myself the hassle of downloading another extension *sigh* I might as well compare them.
Let's see, State of the Union speech was used in the article, I'll just search for a news article on it. Aaah, here's one. I think the MPA would be an interesting thing to search.
I'll highlight that first page and use the "Search Web for" feature. Oh, it uses Google. Well I'll just change that to Y!Q. *after a few minutes* Well looks like I can't. Oh well, Google's good, I'm sure . Dang, that's useless.
I'll just highlight the header. Hmm, that is all about stuff from 2004, not the State of the Union speech. That definitely isn't what I wanted.
Here's one last ditch effort which again failed.
Y!Q on the other hand was more then helpful.
While I love Google and have been using it for years. Yahoo's latest efforts are quite interesting, and I think belittling them by saying "this has already been done" isn't very fair. As I demonstrated, Google doesn't come close with the ease of this new feature. Could I create a search query that would return as good if not better results? Probably. But I certainly can't do it by just highlighting text on a webpage. That is something Y!Q has done, and as time continues I guess we can only expect it to get better. -
Re:Unfortunately...
We cannot legislate away nature!
Some right-wingers would disagree with you on that one. They are perfectly happy trying to legislate or fund away nature when it suits their religious base.
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How is a gay magazine going to help?
Really...do they think that by enlisting the Advocate that more people will switch? What power do gays wield that will help this cause? Designing nice desktop schemes? I think this is a really short-sighted move...more people will be turned off by this and the "cause" will suffer.
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Re:Sounds like S.A.L.V.A.G.E.It was 1979. What a great trashy show! That was the era of great trashy TV. You had (of course) Battlestar Galactica and Land of the Lost and Ark II and (my all-time favorite since Race Bannon, although he may have been Dr. Benton Quest's gay lover -- not that there's anything wrong with that -- kicked major outer-space spider ass with an M1 garand at the drop of a hat) Johnny Quest. And not that new crap they shovel down the Nintendo generation's throats, either. They can't screw with my childhood. The real Johnny Quest had bongos and snakes and crocodiles released by madmen and
.50 cal machine guns on the back of Jeeps godammit. When you heard the "Caravan" theme song, you felt like action. That new shit just makes you want to buy a toy for your kid so he'll shut up already.Damn. Now you've made me all nostalgic. Anyone here remember "World Beyond" in Phoenix, AZ in the summers on Saturday morning? They had great trashy sci-fi movies and a ZZ Top guitar riff for intro music? Anyone remember Edmus Scary? Had AC/DC's "Back in Black" for a doorbell?
Damn again. Sometimes I miss being a kid. Then I remember how badly 9th grade sucked and I get over it.
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hilary is gay (nk)
Hilary Rosen is a fat, ugly, lesbian. Don't laugh, it's true.
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Re:Interesting story about Ms.Rosen
Here's an interview with her in The Advocate. I think it's totally bizarre that her partner is the executive director of the Human Rights Campaign.
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Re:...and then they killed him.
Not to mention that the air force is actively ousting out gays right now-- in spite of their other orders to discontinue many types of discharge to stem personnel loss.