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Re:Few things
....and now it is illegal for anyone but Apple to fix OS X bugs.....
I only pretend to be a lawyer to pick up girls, but that doesnâ(TM)t seem to be in the APSL. The only restriction I can see is a GPL-like requirement to publish your source changes if you go external....
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Re:Considering this is Windows...
Maybe you think that's a big deal because a 16 GB iPad costs $100 more than a 32GB one, versus $9.99 to add 16GB to the Surface
No, I don't. I don't give a flying f*ck about how much an iPad costs. I'd say the same thing about them if iOS used half of all the storage space on the device.
People have been advertising the total storage capacity, as opposed to the available storage space, since the first hard drives hit the market back in the early 90's. So your complaint seems to be about how much space is used out of the total available, and when you can double your capacity for a few measly bucks it really makes you come across as nothing but a bit of a whiner.
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That naughty Mr Elop, how we all hate him
Includes: "...One year of Windows Phone Developer Center membership. A $99 (USD) retail value..." It says here
So this makes Nokia a rip-off merchant how exactly? MSFT maybe but they're only charging the going rate
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Re:Considering this is Windows...
Maybe you think that's a big deal because a 16 GB iPad costs $100 more than a 32GB one, versus $9.99 to add 16GB to the Surface
No, I don't. I don't give a flying f*ck about how much an iPad costs. I'd say the same thing about them if iOS used half of all the storage space on the device.
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Re:Considering this is Windows...
In practice you're being sold a 16GB tablet when you think you're buying a 32GB one.
Maybe you think that's a big deal because a 16 GB iPad costs $100 more than a 32GB one, versus $9.99 to add 16GB to the Surface. And in fact, the add-in card is better, because you easily swap out different cards with different contents. I have a MicroSD with my entire music collection for my Sansa Clip+, and might want to pop it into a tablet without waiting for a 20GB file copy.
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Re:who cares
And if you actually do happen to notice the apology text and click on the link to the judgement info, the font that they use is not the same as what they use everywhere else on their site. It is so small and tight that it hurts the eyes to read it.
http://www.apple.com/uk/legal-judgement/
Good work, Apple!
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Re:This stunt by Apple
If you're going to make a claim like that, you might want to spare thirty seconds to check out the actual web sites.
US Site: No picture scaling UK Site: Picture scales to hide the bottom of the page.
Interestingly, it seems that every country site for Apple except the US one does the picture scaling.
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Re:Must be fixed?
I just visited as of 22:28 pdt saturday (05:28 gmt sunday) and it was clear as possible.
I was hoping they'd pulled another stunt, perhaps with iStuff adverts above the judgment, however not when currently viewing it with Firefox 15.0.1 on Ubuntu 10.04 from Canada.
And, off of the front page was a link with the entirely sufficient (IMHO) text (viewable with slight scrolling):
On 25 October 2012, Apple Inc. published a statement on its UK website in relation to Samsung's Galaxy tablet computers. That statement was inaccurate and did not comply with the order of the Court of Appeal of England and Wales. The correct statement is at Samsung/Apple UK judgement.
Oh crap, is that the scrolling everyone's talking about? Just read one of TFAs and it appears so. I thought the decision itself was what required scrolling. Meh, I hate Apple, but cannot get too upset about this.
Tried it with & without NoScript, both times text was centred horizontally & vertically within the page.
So, unsure if it's been changed (again) but I'm mildly disappointed - they appear to have done what was required without any fooling around.
*shrug*
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Re:Shameful behaviour
How is this contempt? The message isn't hidden, it's right there on the page. The fact that they optimise the page so that their product shot makes the most of the above-the-fold real estate is not removing it from the page in any way, it's just good design.
Oh, bullshit. Try this: go to Apple's US page (which is "apple.com" which I'm guessing will redirect in other countries, and apparently you can't just add
/us/ to force it to stay in the US, so, you may have to pick a random country if you're actually in the UK) and compare it to the UK version of the page. Notice anything different?You might not, if the browser isn't large enough, but I'm typing this on a 1920x1200 display with the browser sized to the maximum height. With that, on the US page, the entire page is visible, including the header. On the UK page, the content is sized off the bottom.
If you throw the page into Responsive Design View in Firefox (Ctrl-Shift-M) and start playing with the size, you'll notice that they explicitly designed the page to size the apology off the bottom. (Well, almost: they give up if you manage to get your browser view to be greater than 1600 pixels tall.)
That's not "using above the fold real estate," not when it's optimized to not display on anything less than 1600 pixels tall. That's called "being as asshole" at the least and, I expect, will turn into being called "found in contempt of court."
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Re:Shameful behaviour
How is this contempt? The message isn't hidden, it's right there on the page. The fact that they optimise the page so that their product shot makes the most of the above-the-fold real estate is not removing it from the page in any way, it's just good design.
Oh, bullshit. Try this: go to Apple's US page (which is "apple.com" which I'm guessing will redirect in other countries, and apparently you can't just add
/us/ to force it to stay in the US, so, you may have to pick a random country if you're actually in the UK) and compare it to the UK version of the page. Notice anything different?You might not, if the browser isn't large enough, but I'm typing this on a 1920x1200 display with the browser sized to the maximum height. With that, on the US page, the entire page is visible, including the header. On the UK page, the content is sized off the bottom.
If you throw the page into Responsive Design View in Firefox (Ctrl-Shift-M) and start playing with the size, you'll notice that they explicitly designed the page to size the apology off the bottom. (Well, almost: they give up if you manage to get your browser view to be greater than 1600 pixels tall.)
That's not "using above the fold real estate," not when it's optimized to not display on anything less than 1600 pixels tall. That's called "being as asshole" at the least and, I expect, will turn into being called "found in contempt of court."
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Re:who cares
In typesetting if you don't really want most people from reading a specific paragraph it is always best to put that paragraph at the bottom of the page and if possible put it in a sans-serif font while having all other fonts seriffed. Of course it also helps if you put said paragraph in a page with heavy coloured pictures which basically insures it won't be read by all but the most persistent reader. It must be noted in the UK Apple website all fonts are not seriffed however nearly all words are mainly for captions which is a very valid way of using sans-serif fonts (magazines do this all the time).
Don't believe me then go to here and scroll to the bottom, then try to read the paragraph without your eyes wanting to take a holiday.
Congratulations to Apple web designers for using a technique that typesetters knew over a hundred years ago and yes unless the judge is ignorant or does not care about typesetting (in this case web layout) tricks like this then I can see Apple being found in contempt. -
Re:This stunt by Apple
If you're going to make a claim like that, you might want to spare thirty seconds to check out the actual web sites.
US Site: No picture scaling
UK Site: Picture scales to hide the bottom of the page. I had to turn my monitor on its side, making it 1920 pixels tall, in order to get the notice to appear.I really don't understand how some people think they can get away with such obvious lies on the internet. Do they really think that not a single person will bother to check?
following the links above I have to scroll *farther* to see the bottom of the page on the US site. damage control, geo-location or ???
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Re:This stunt by Apple
If you're going to make a claim like that, you might want to spare thirty seconds to check out the actual web sites.
US Site: No picture scaling
UK Site: Picture scales to hide the bottom of the page. I had to turn my monitor on its side, making it 1920 pixels tall, in order to get the notice to appear.I really don't understand how some people think they can get away with such obvious lies on the internet. Do they really think that not a single person will bother to check?
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Four links.
There are four links (2x thenextweb, ycombinator, and reddit) in the summary and none of them actually point to the web site or the actual statement. Was this really the best submission for this story?
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Four links.
There are four links (2x thenextweb, ycombinator, and reddit) in the summary and none of them actually point to the web site or the actual statement. Was this really the best submission for this story?
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Re:MS killed the Nokia star
I spoke to a salesperson today aswell, see I wanted a tablet for my wife so she could plug it in to her (i think olympus) camera and then upload her photos to DropBox. The guy told me come back in a few weeks when the Windows tablets are in. He also said that it was something the iPad isn't capable of, which really I'd consider is a pretty damn remedial task.
If you go talk to the Salesman in a Microsoft store in the office where you work you will hear some pretty weird shit. The iPad can obviously do that using the camera connection kit and if you bought a Nexus tablet you could just do it with a converter cable. I'd recommend going ahead with that now whilst you can still claim you bought it before the Surface was available. Later on you might get into trouble with your team leader for not being sufficiently loyal.
I think that Microsoft has been able to get away with spreading silly rumours about like this about Linux in the past because most people didn't have access to systems where they could check them. On the other hand, anyone who uploads a photo from their camera to an iPad or a Nexus is immediately going to see the benefits that a quality screen with a high PPI rating is going to give them. This is going to be one of the first things any iPad owner is going to ask a surface owner to show him.
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Re:Apple wants to get it right?
No. He's just moved on from the 2001 notion of multimedia that you seem to be clinging to.
What are you referring to? Apple removed DRM from the music available on iTunes back in 2009.
He's probably referring to the video files on iTunes.
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So, I have a problem. Help me out, slashdotters.
I have been using iTunes Just Added functionality for years. Now it is gone. Basically, as a DJ, I am always looking for new releases in a certain genre, and Just Added allowed me to filter by my genre. It's been gone for two months, and perhaps the impending release explains it. Maybe they will put it back in place in some other way.
For a while, I was able to access it here:
http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewNewReleases?pageType=justA dded&id=1
This takes you to the Just Added Page...the problem is the sorting by genre no longer works, while it once did. It is possible that someone with better computer skills can be can enter that page and have it be sorted by category.
Does anyone have a bookmark anywhere of a page automatically sorted by a genre? If we can figure that out we can probably append the variable to the end of the link and it will work, at least until Apple inexplicably really kills Just Added for some stupid reason in the impending release.
I tried using this page as a reference:
http://www.apple.com/itunes/affiliates/resources/documentation/genre-mapping.htm l
And added a link at the end, like so:
http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewNewReleases?pageType=justA dded&id=1&genres?id=20
As an attempt to sort by a genre with the id=20, but no such luck. Maybe it's just not sorting...
But this is a good start. Anyone want to suggest something?
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So, I have a problem. Help me out, slashdotters.
I have been using iTunes Just Added functionality for years. Now it is gone. Basically, as a DJ, I am always looking for new releases in a certain genre, and Just Added allowed me to filter by my genre. It's been gone for two months, and perhaps the impending release explains it. Maybe they will put it back in place in some other way.
For a while, I was able to access it here:
http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewNewReleases?pageType=justA dded&id=1
This takes you to the Just Added Page...the problem is the sorting by genre no longer works, while it once did. It is possible that someone with better computer skills can be can enter that page and have it be sorted by category.
Does anyone have a bookmark anywhere of a page automatically sorted by a genre? If we can figure that out we can probably append the variable to the end of the link and it will work, at least until Apple inexplicably really kills Just Added for some stupid reason in the impending release.
I tried using this page as a reference:
http://www.apple.com/itunes/affiliates/resources/documentation/genre-mapping.htm l
And added a link at the end, like so:
http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewNewReleases?pageType=justA dded&id=1&genres?id=20
As an attempt to sort by a genre with the id=20, but no such luck. Maybe it's just not sorting...
But this is a good start. Anyone want to suggest something?
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So, I have a problem. Help me out, slashdotters.
I have been using iTunes Just Added functionality for years. Now it is gone. Basically, as a DJ, I am always looking for new releases in a certain genre, and Just Added allowed me to filter by my genre. It's been gone for two months, and perhaps the impending release explains it. Maybe they will put it back in place in some other way.
For a while, I was able to access it here:
http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewNewReleases?pageType=justA dded&id=1
This takes you to the Just Added Page...the problem is the sorting by genre no longer works, while it once did. It is possible that someone with better computer skills can be can enter that page and have it be sorted by category.
Does anyone have a bookmark anywhere of a page automatically sorted by a genre? If we can figure that out we can probably append the variable to the end of the link and it will work, at least until Apple inexplicably really kills Just Added for some stupid reason in the impending release.
I tried using this page as a reference:
http://www.apple.com/itunes/affiliates/resources/documentation/genre-mapping.htm l
And added a link at the end, like so:
http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewNewReleases?pageType=justA dded&id=1&genres?id=20
As an attempt to sort by a genre with the id=20, but no such luck. Maybe it's just not sorting...
But this is a good start. Anyone want to suggest something?
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Re:Apple wants to get it right?
No. He's just moved on from the 2001 notion of multimedia that you seem to be clinging to.
What are you referring to? Apple removed DRM from the music available on iTunes back in 2009.
I seriously hope you're not implying that GP thought, and encouraged the idea, that Apple still sells iTunes music with DRM.
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Re:Exactly...
See shipped vs sold numbers arguments
From Apples own SEC filing http://investor.apple.com/sec.cfm " The Company recognizes revenue when persuasive evidence of an
arrangement exists, delivery has occurred, the sales price is fixed or determinable, and collection is probable.
Product is considered delivered to the customer once it has been shipped and title and risk of loss have been
transferred. For most of the Company’s product sales, these criteria are met at the time the product is shipped."There is no shipped vs sales argument. There maybe Shipped [Apple] vs Activated [Google], but Apple call shipments, sales.
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Re:Pissing off judges
Except this isn't a printing press. It's just a webpage.
Yes, things can go horribly wrong with webpages if you start doing horrible things to them (such as massaging it so that it looks just the way you want it... in WebKit and screw the rest.).
But it's not exactly difficult to add the notice without anything breaking.
Go here:
http://www.apple.com/
Find <nav id="globalheader" ...Stick this below:
<div style="width:974px; position:relative; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto; box-shadow: 0 1px 2px rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.3); background-color:#fdd; padding:0.25em; border:1px solid #800; border-radius:0.25em; text-align:center;">On October 18th, 2012, the England and Wales High Court ordered Apple, Inc. to formally apologize to Samsung Electronics Ltd. for making false statements.<br />Read our full apology to Samsung Electronics, Ltd. at <a style="color:#000;" href="http://www.apple.com/uk/legal-judgement/">http://www.apple.com/uk/legal-judgement/</a></div>Works perfectly well on desktop, iPad 2, and smartphone (Android in my case).
If they want to further limit it to UK region, I'm sure they already have the server-side code for that.
If there's any horrible issues with it (maybe it blows up on iPod Touch or something), they can fix that along the way. There's no excuse, however, for suggesting that the simple statement included in the page with clear wording and visibility that I whipped up in 3 minutes would take them 14 days. No excuse whatsoever.
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Good-o
Because I read the statement originally and thought it was unnecessarily pretentious and liable to land them in more trouble than if they'd just played ball.
UK courts don't take lightly to humour or parody aimed at themselves. Undermining the same court that found you guilty in the factual legal statement you were ordered by that court to publish is literally just sticking two fingers up.
And the statement itself? I read it when it first came out and couldn't make head nor tail of it (you can find it here: http://www.apple.com/uk/legal-judgement/). Even just the comparison to the German court - that was unnecessarily snarky and there's a reason that corporate legal statements all sound the same and don't try to be humorous or clever.
If they'd just done as ordered and stated the bit that other courts had disagreed, fair enough. But they word it in "smart-arse" and that was always liable to make more fuss. And now, for their efforts to minimise customer damage, they are now in the news again for failing to comply with the original court order.
Well done, Apple. Keep it up. Because though you probably don't, I'd be quite interested to see just how far a UK court would go to drill you into the ground if you kept it up.
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Re:2560x1600 should be good for anyone!
I just thank the legacy of Jobs that at least the iPad is still 4:3.
Careful, it's a WIDESCREEN 4:3 ratio. At least the tech specs for the iPad originally listed it as a widescreen 4:3 on the official Apple website.
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Re:Problem
Wow. Didn't think I would have to point out I was referring to the AC talking about it being the same on the iPad, but apparently I do.
For the other dense readers, yes, the iPad runs iOS. Just to be on the safe side.
...and the first part of what you said, "The only things that MAGICALLY get blown up is older software that doesn't understand the new resolutions.", also applies, mutatis mutandis, to OS X, as per my response to Anonymous Howard, and this bit of Apple documentation that apparently didn't get linked in my post (sorry about that).
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Re:Agree 100%
I'm sure I'll get downmodded, but have an Apple.
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Re:Largest personal computer manufacture?
$299/year.
Not cheap, but not expensive either.
https://developer.apple.com/programs/ios/enterprise/
If you've got an in-house developer developing custom applications for a team of users, 300 bucks is probably less than what you spend on donuts for the weekly meeting.
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Re:Gross revenue?
Apple reported an $8.2 billion net profit for the quarter, not $15 billion. It was up 24% from $6.6 billion in the same quarter last year. http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2012/10/25Apple-Reports-Fourth-Quarter-Results.html
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Re:Link to sample app?
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Re:Link to sample app?
Under the hood?
Check out Magnetometer
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/magnetometer/id342782714
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Re:Unfortunate end to Apple's head of software
Unfortunate end to Apple's head of software
Apple didn't have a "head of software". It had a head of iOS software (Forstall), a head of OS X software (Federighi), and possibly a head of "Internet Software and Services" (Cue) (alas, I don't have a copy of yesterday's http://www.apple.com/pr/bios/, just some old June 2012-vintage stuff from the Internet Archive). It now has a head of Software Engineering (Federighi), and a head of Internet Software and Services (Cue), so....
As Steve Jobs said software is the soul of the products.
...and Apple still has people in charge of it.
We NEED to support people who think different!
Thinking differently is a means to an end. The end is to think better, which may require thinking differently, but merely thinking differently is insufficient to think better.
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Re:First impressions on Surface
So it sounds like *right now*, the weight is the only benefit for you, right?
I presume you don't have the keyboard dock?
Asus Vivo Tab RT is 1.2 pounds (2.3 pounds with keyboard dock)(*), the newest iPad is 1.44 pounds for WiFi(**).
(*) http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2411428,00.asp
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Re:Fear...
You mean like this one?
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Re:The iPhone effect?
Samsung's shipments are way up, despite the iPhone. In fact Apple's shipments are a bit lower than last year.
Apple shipped 26.9 million iPhones last quarter, an increase of 58% since the same quarter last year. That's hardly decreasing shipments.
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Re:three words, one hyphen:
I'll see your three words and go in two; no hyphen: Regulatory Capture.
Healthcare is expensive because the government passes scores of rules that benefit the incumbents and keep out innovation. They pass those regulations because someone ends getting richer as a result.
Ear Trumpet's developers received a cease and desist from the FDA after they published an iPhone App that tested your hearing and then loaded an equalizer to adapt playback response according to the test results. That's all they were selling - a test and an equalizer with presets. But you can't buy it anymore because the FDA objected.
Another case in point. One of my students' father was trained as an M.D. in China. The family emigrated to the U.S. and the father had to go through medical school all over just to prove he knew what he was doing. The only thing that improved in med school was his English. Were he, and hundreds of thousands other fully capable practitioners, able to come here and just hang out their shingle, you'd see health care costs plummet. But no. The medical profession protects its own from competition by convincing everyone they know best by limiting the number of doctors and med students.
Healthcare would be a hell of a lot cheaper if the government stayed the hell out of it.
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Re:Apple style apology!
This really is an Apple style acknowledgement of fault - I'm reminded on when some iPods were found to be carrying a Windows malware, which then infected some PCs...
http://www.apple.com/support/windowsvirus/
Key quote (emphasis mine): "We recently discovered that a small number - less than 1% - of the Video iPods available for purchase after September 12, 2006, left our contract manufacturer carrying the Windows RavMonE.exe virus. This known virus affects only Windows computers, and up to date anti-virus software which is included with most Windows computers should detect and remove it. So far we have seen less than 25 reports concerning this problem. The iPod nano, iPod shuffle and Mac OS X are not affected, and all Video iPods now shipping are virus free. As you might imagine, we are upset at Windows for not being more hardy against such viruses, and even more upset with ourselves for not catching it."
They do have chutzpah.
fixed it for you
(capture is remorse - how appropriate).
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Challenge accepted
Good luck finding a laptop that doesn't have Windows installed on it.
Well gee, that one wasn't too hard.
/sarcasm
Try this one. If that list is a little too complicated to follow, then try ZDnet's top five vendors (desktop a& laptop) from last year.
And of course you can always take pride from the DIY route.
Seriously, do you even care about sticking it to the man? It just seems to me like you're just being lazy. -
Also...
Not exactly prominently displayed on their website. You can find it, but only if you're looking for it.
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Apple style apology!
This really is an Apple style acknowledgement of fault - I'm reminded on when some iPods were found to be carrying a Windows malware, which then infected some PCs...
http://www.apple.com/support/windowsvirus/
Key quote (emphasis mine): "We recently discovered that a small number - less than 1% - of the Video iPods available for purchase after September 12, 2006, left our contract manufacturer carrying the Windows RavMonE.exe virus. This known virus affects only Windows computers, and up to date anti-virus software which is included with most Windows computers should detect and remove it. So far we have seen less than 25 reports concerning this problem. The iPod nano, iPod shuffle and Mac OS X are not affected, and all Video iPods now shipping are virus free. As you might imagine, we are upset at Windows for not being more hardy against such viruses, and even more upset with ourselves for not catching it."
They do have chutzpah.
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Re:Contempt?
In what way were the words rearranged?
What the judge said
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The extreme simplicity of the Apple design is striking. Overall it has undecorated flat surfaces with a plate of glass on the front all the way out to a very thin rim and a blank back. There is a crisp edge around the rim and a combination of curves, both at the corners and the sides. The design looks like an object the informed user would want to pick up and hold. It is an understated, smooth and simple product. It is a cool design.190.
The informed user's overall impression of each of the Samsung Galaxy Tablets is the following. From the front they belong to the family which includes the Apple design; but the Samsung products are very thin, almost insubstantial members of that family with unusual details on the back. They do not have the same understated and extreme simplicity which is possessed by the Apple design. They are not as cool. The overall impression produced is different.http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Patents/2012/1882.html
What apple said
"The extreme simplicity of the Apple design is striking. Overall it has undecorated flat surfaces with a plate of glass on the front all the way out to a very thin rim and a blank back. There is a crisp edge around the rim and a combination of curves, both at the corners and the sides. The design looks like an object the informed user would want to pick up and hold. It is an understated, smooth and simple product. It is a cool design."
"The informed user's overall impression of each of the Samsung Galaxy Tablets is the following. From the front they belong to the family which includes the Apple design; but the Samsung products are very thin, almost insubstantial members of that family with unusual details on the back. They do not have the same understated and extreme simplicity which is possessed by the Apple design. They are not as cool."
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Re:Apple Samsung apology.
Is this the apology? Doesn't read like one. Bring on the sanctions.
Apple wasn't ordered to apologized, they were ordered to tell the truth. Deal with it.
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Apple Samsung apology.
Is this the apology? Doesn't read like one. Bring on the sanctions.
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Re:Windows RT for Kiosk, POS, Control systems?
Not in this case. They may have been using something like this.
A search for POS in iTunes brings up plenty of options. They make credit card readers for the things--heck, a few weeks ago I rode the RAT Beach Bike Tour and they were taking credit card payments on Droids and iPhones.
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Re:not even
Wow! it does? Quick, tell Mr Cook to take his apology back.
The guy has no idea what he's talking about. Fancy having him as a CEO - telling people to use other map apps when there's nothing wrong with theirs! -
Re:Why?
It's possible to restrict distribution using the B2B distribution method (this is different from the in-house Enterprise distribution method) but that's not the way POS apps do it. POS apps are all on the normal App Store for free (well, all the major ones I've tested, obviously that wouldn't include custom in-house implementations). But in order to work they require you have an account on the POS vendor's cloud (this is how transactions are recorded across devices, etc.), and that account is something you have to pay for (for example $1,499 one-time license per location and $49 per iPad per month).
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Re:Just buy them an iPhone with a strap
Speaking of the iOS, here is something that can help keep tabs on those who participate with you: Find My Friends. Unfortunately, it hasn't found me any friends.
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Re:Wrong iPad deployment model...
Glad that worked out for you. It is odd that Apple says to add contractors to the client's license for App Store distribution but not for B2B: https://developer.apple.com/support/ios/enrollment.html
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Re:This is why iPADS are not business ready
Read this
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Wrong iPad deployment model...
Sounds like your targetted app client falls under the class of Enterprise.... so why not skip the app store entirely, keep 100% of the revenue and deploy directly to your verticle market customers directly using the Apple Enterprise licence model?