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Apple also sells displays, keyboards/mice, routers / networked storage drives, and software.

They could pretty easily start pushing a line of I/O devices designed to talk to your iOS or Mac OS devices in a tightly integrated ecosystem designed around the idea that your phone is your computer, your PC is an external processor bank and storage array for "big jobs", and any of the displays and/or keyboards (made by Apple) in your immediate vicinity can be grabbed and used as convenient.

Or rather, if anyone can do it Apple can due to their existing vertical integration and reputation for upturning cars when it suites their vision to do so.

Their "Continuity" feature would provide the perfect "glue" to make that a wonderful experience for a certain market-segment, too.

Great idea!

https://support.apple.com/en-u...

Logic Pro X is an EXCELLENT DAW, easily equal to or better than ProTools. Outside of the USA (curiously enough), it is quite well-represented. And even in the USA, since Macs own Pro Audio, most pro studios support Logic as well as ProTools.

And it isn't a Subscription model. $199 and its yours. Forever.

And if you do things live, MainStage3 is a spectacular package. I think it is like $30.

Ok thank you!!

This year, I'm upgrading my work station from the MBP late 2011 core i7 16GB ram...and getting an iMac Pro....

Awhile back, I went and applied at a local community college for the grad program. Mind you, I never enrolled or took a class. I paid about $25 application fee, and likely $35 or so for transcripts to be sent there. And I went and got my Student ID made...which has NO expiration date.

I now use this to get educational software and hardware.

When I get the iMac pro, I can also get the educational bundle they offer for $199 with Logic, FPCX (I already have this),, Motion, Compressor, and the MainStage, etc.....so, I think I'f go for it.

I really don't know music,..but I do own more guitars than I know chords...and awhile back, bought a midi keyboard..so, thinking I can plug in and maybe try to learn to do some simple things for my videos, etc.

LOL...yeah, awhile back, I thought if you bought enough equipment, you'd eventually sounds like Jimmy Page.

Apparently I missed the part about hard work and practicing...hahaha.

Anyway, again, thank you for the input!!

Yeah, and with all the software instruments that Logic Pro and Mainstage come with, you will have a BLAST with that MIDI keyboard!!!

Oh yeah, that Educational Bundle is the best-kept secret on the planet!!!

Now, if THAT isn't the Deal of the Century, I don't know what is!

Looks like it's still a "thing"...

https://www.apple.com/us-k12/s...

Have fun!

No, Google isn't the problem here. Amazon is trying to keep their content off of everyone else's platforms, while retaining everyone else's content.

Total fucking bullshit. You can watch Amazon content on all the most popular platforms.

Google just wants to spy on you, they're generally very happy to do so in an accommodating cross-platform way.

So why are they blocking the Youtube app on Prime? Which, by the way, runs Android! This is not only an attack on Amazon, and on users, but also on Android, which they control! The daft bastards are attacking their own reflection!

Amazon wants to spy on you and be a monopolistic walled garden.

Google has a web store where they sell Android devices. In that web store, they only sell Google-branded devices. It is completely discriminatory. It promotes their Android devices over all the other Android devices, because it is the only official web store from the owners of Android. This argument is literally over Amazon not being willing to carry Google-branded Android devices in their store. Google has enshrined their Android products over everyone else's by creating that web store, and now they want Amazon to help them defeat Amazon's own Android-based products by putting them in their store as well. And since they refuse to carry them, which is reasonable because of Google's undue influence over Android (Operating Systems must belong to the users, in effect, not used to bludgeon them) then Google sees fit to punish them by restricting access to content which the internet depends upon.

Google controlling the operating system and the content is exactly like ISPs who are also content providers controlling the internet connection and the content. They control both the content, and the means by which you consume the content, and they are attempting to force you to consume their content first. Every Google-branded Android device is a means of shoving a Youtube app in the user's face whether they go looking for it, or not. But you have long been able to install a Youtube app on your Fire TV device, which is why Amazon is not acting anticompetitively here. Google is. They are leveraging their OS monopoly to force Amazon to do their will, exactly like the Microsoft of old.

That anyone can root for Google here shows how brainwashed people are, due to their overbearing influence on the market. That Slashdotters will do it just makes me sad.

For legacy reasons,

The legacy reason has to do with the AC line frequency introducing hum bars in the video, and the thought was that it was better for the hum bar to roll through the image than to be stuck in one place, which might happen to be the vertical sync period (thus screwing up the sync).

The result of this was something called 'drop frame' so that video timing would match clock time. Time code for old B/W video at 30Hz would run from 0 through 29 frames and then roll over the second counter. From here:

Drop frame timecode was invented to compensate for the discrepancy between 29.97 and 30 fps. Every minute except each tenth minute, two timecode numbers are dropped from the timecode count. This drop frame mode of 30 fps timecode remains accurate compared to the actual time passed, with a strange side effect that two numbers each minute vanish from the count.

If you ever watch a video where they show the timecode, you can actually see this, if the time is ripe.

Unfortunately it isnâ(TM)t possible to upgrade directly from 10.6.8 to 10.8+ without first installing 10.7

Yep, it is – I upgraded directly from Snow Leopard to Mavericks. You just need an update to the App Store certificate.

https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT205702

You can just go to https://support.apple.com/ and search for "how to download os x" (or ditto for "macOS"). Here's f.e. the download for El Capitan: https://support.apple.com/en-u...

You can just go to https://support.apple.com/ and search for "how to download os x" (or ditto for "macOS"). Here's f.e. the download for El Capitan: https://support.apple.com/en-u...

That upgrade in Apples world means buying a new OS.
Years ago in our household we had one Apple that had the same issue, just a few years old and the only way to be able to run a recent browser was buying a new OS.

Yeah, that was a problem for a while - Apple was charging $20 for 10.7 as I recall. Later versions we all free. However, even if the machine in question will not do an upgrade jump from 10.6 to 10.13, Apple provides a free download for 10.11 here: https://support.apple.com/en-u... and one can upgrade for free from 10.11 to 10.13. With the proper firmware updates, this machine seems to be able to do "Internet Recovery", so one should be able to install or update it even with a bare drive and no OS installed.

https://support.apple.com/en-u...

According to https://everymac.com/systems/a... the MacBook7,1 supports up to 16GB of RAM and can run the current version of macOS, "High Sierra" 10.13. Put in a SATA SSD and this machine is perfectly capable of running all the latest macOS software at very acceptable speed.

That upgrade in Apples world means buying a new OS.
Years ago in our household we had one Apple that had the same issue, just a few years old and the only way to be able to run a recent browser was buying a new OS.

Yeah, that was a problem for a while - Apple was charging $20 for 10.7 as I recall. Later versions we all free. However, even if the machine in question will not do an upgrade jump from 10.6 to 10.13, Apple provides a free download for 10.11 here: https://support.apple.com/en-u... and one can upgrade for free from 10.11 to 10.13. With the proper firmware updates, this machine seems to be able to do "Internet Recovery", so one should be able to install or update it even with a bare drive and no OS installed.

https://support.apple.com/en-u...

According to https://everymac.com/systems/a... the MacBook7,1 supports up to 16GB of RAM and can run the current version of macOS, "High Sierra" 10.13. Put in a SATA SSD and this machine is perfectly capable of running all the latest macOS software at very acceptable speed.

Your old iMac will likely run El Capitan, and possibly even Sierra. You normally can't find these older versions in the AppStore since Apple only offers the current version of macOS in the search results, but you can access the downloads from here: 10.11 El Capitan: https://support.apple.com/en-a... 10.12 Sierra: https://support.apple.com/en-a...

Your old iMac will likely run El Capitan, and possibly even Sierra. You normally can't find these older versions in the AppStore since Apple only offers the current version of macOS in the search results, but you can access the downloads from here: 10.11 El Capitan: https://support.apple.com/en-a... 10.12 Sierra: https://support.apple.com/en-a...

It can even run macOS 10.13 (High Sierra) (the current latest version).

Yep it will indeed However you can't install 10.13 directly on a system with 10.6.8 you need to be on 10.8 or later but you can got to 10.11 and then to 10.13 Check out https://support.apple.com/en-a... for the link to download 10.11.6 from the appstore for free.

Again, the "feature" as it is was not detailed as it had to be (basically, slows down iPhones).
Release notes said precisely at the time:
"iOS 10.2.1 includes bug fixes (...) It also improves power management during peak workloads to avoid unexpected shutdowns on iPhone". here.
It's not a like/not like issue. It's incomplete and misleading information from Apple leading people not knowing why their iPhone is slow, slowness that might be fixed thanks to a battery change.
What I don't like, though, it's people here spreading the wrong information.

Ha, no. Apple made $52.6 billion just in the last quarter. Hell, they made $78.4 billion just in the Christmas quarter of 2016 alone.

Apple's income is much, much higher than Alphabet's.

Ha, no. Apple made $52.6 billion just in the last quarter. Hell, they made $78.4 billion just in the Christmas quarter of 2016 alone.

Apple's income is much, much higher than Alphabet's.

All new Audis have CarPlay support. My A4 has a CarPlay and supports Android Auto too.

Other luxury brands that also have it without a recurring fee:

https://www.apple.com/ios/carp...

Mercedes
Volvo
Alfa Romeo
Porsche
Lincoln
Cadillac
Bentley
Astin Martin

Just don't buy a BMW -- the other brands are generally better cars anyway. Audis are awesome.

Bloat always translates into being slow

Large install size != bloat != slow

MS Word or Powerpoint on a new machine takes many tens of seconds to load and render some pages whereas the version of that software from about 10 years back has most of the same functionality but screams on even low-end hardware you can buy today. Why? Laziness. Laziness that wastes my time when I'm trying to work.

Of course, it coudln't be anything else like increased demand of other functionality from both the program and the OS, having to deal with more and more use cases than the one a decade ago, or any number of other reasons.

It's also not a good idea to assume that the PC your crapware is being run on is the same 4k top-of-the-line workstation you're testing it on. I don't know if you've heard, but mobile device are all the rage these days. The thing that distinguishes mobile from laptop from workstation is power consumption. On a desktop workstation, you can throw around gigabytes and gigahertz like you don't care. On mobile devices you count milliwatts.

Good thing there is a separate app for those mobile devices.

It's a feature I'd love to be able to turn on even on a brand new phone

They do have Low Power Mode, which kinda does that now.

I'm sure glad you're not making any decisions for me because you're conflating two different things:
- Access to iCloud Data (the subject of TFA).
    Apple has always divulged this data when presented with a warrant, whether in the U.S. or anywhere else that they operate:
    https://www.apple.com/lae/priv...
- Access to information on devices:
    Again, Apple co-operates with authorities when they can but cannot do so once a window of opportunity closes and the device is locked. This was the case for the Las Vegas shooter: http://thehill.com/policy/tech... and more generally: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...–Apple_encryption_dispute

One assumes that your other reasons for being "glad" you don't use Apple are just as ignorant as these.

Apple made imaging the data off the device impossible with the addition of the "Secure Enclave" in the CPU - half of the encryption key comes from a burned-in value inside the CPU at manufacture, and that value is not recorded anywhere.

If you pull an image and attempt to unlock it, you would have to crack 256-bit elliptic curve private keys. Good luck with that.

Source: https://developer.apple.com/do...

The battery discount announcement was posted on Dec 28, 2017, well within the 14 day return policy for most Christmas shopping. I think you're being absurd for suggesting that Apple is duping their customers on purpose.

And you can still either keep the old phone as a secondary or you might have traded it in for credit. In any case, the credit for trade-in hasn't changed before and after the battery announcement. I don't understand why someone might be having buyer's remorse over getting a new phone. First world problem?

The class action suit is just some opportunist lawyer's plot to extort money. Most members of the class will get a paltry $5 for their participation (if they are lucky), so they are just willingly getting screwed, except this time by lawyers. I have no sympathy for either the lawyers or the members in the class. These days you can bring on a suit for anything. It doesn't mean it has merit.

A congresscritter can also raise a raucous about anything to boost their profile. It doesn't mean it has merit.

The battery discount announcement was posted on Dec 28, 2017, well within the 14 day return policy for most Christmas shopping. I think you're being absurd for suggesting that Apple is duping their customers on purpose.

And you can still either keep the old phone as a secondary or you might have traded it in for credit. In any case, the credit for trade-in hasn't changed before and after the battery announcement. I don't understand why someone might be having buyer's remorse over getting a new phone. First world problem?

The class action suit is just some opportunist lawyer's plot to extort money. Most members of the class will get a paltry $5 for their participation (if they are lucky), so they are just willingly getting screwed, except this time by lawyers. I have no sympathy for either the lawyers or the members in the class. These days you can bring on a suit for anything. It doesn't mean it has merit.

A congresscritter can also raise a raucous about anything to boost their profile. It doesn't mean it has merit.

The battery discount announcement was posted on Dec 28, 2017, well within the 14 day return policy for most Christmas shopping. I think you're being absurd for suggesting that Apple is duping their customers on purpose.

And you can still either keep the old phone as a secondary or you might have traded it in for credit. In any case, the credit for trade-in hasn't changed before and after the battery announcement. I don't understand why someone might be having buyer's remorse over getting a new phone. First world problem?

The class action suit is just some opportunist lawyer's plot to extort money. Most members of the class will get a paltry $5 for their participation (if they are lucky), so they are just willingly getting screwed, except this time by lawyers. I have no sympathy for either the lawyers or the members in the class. These days you can bring on a suit for anything. It doesn't mean it has merit.

A congresscritter can also raise a raucous about anything to boost their profile. It doesn't mean it has merit.

FYI, Apple does publish how long items will be supported. 5 years after they stop making them

Installing this update on your Mac will also update Safari to version 11.0.2.

In case anyone is confused, Safari11.0.2 came out back in December.

What was released today are builds 11604.4.7.1.6 (El Capitan) and 12604.4.7.1.6 (Sierra) plus whatever comes with the High Sierra update.

About the security content of Safari 11.0.2

So just because you are already at 11.0.2, that doesn't mean you are already up to date.

True. But that means people will buy type 1) machines with a Thunderbolt port (and possibly a non U CPU). I.e. they'll still want something with low power consumption when it's not linked to an external GPU. Which means AMD will still get hit by the "It's not low power enough for group 1)" issue with their solution.

In fact Type 1 machines with a Thunderbolt port are going to be really, really common. And eGPU prices will continue to drop.

I reckon Apple might push eGPUs. They're apparently supported well by High Sierra and Apple don't have any affordable Macbooks with a discrete GPU. Even the high end 15 inch model is very underpowered in GPU terms compared to Windows machines.

https://www.apple.com/shop/buy...

$2,799.00 and you only get a Radeon 560.

That's not a very high end GPU

https://www.videocardbenchmark...

Apple do have a reputation for selling overpriced stuff.

E.g. the replacement for to buy machine with the same Ram (16GB) and half the SSD size(512GB instead of 1024GB) of my 2012 Macbook Pro would cost $1,899.00. Even though the original machine was around $1100 and buying 16GB of Ram and a 1TB SSD from Crucial only cost about $400. So rather than paying $1100 up front to Apple and $400 to a third party when the machine gets a bit slow I need to pay $1900 up front and can't upgrade. That's a hefty price increase. And you can't upgrade the Ram because it's soldered and even the SSD which is socketed is proprietary and only available from Apple. Great.

https://www.apple.com/shop/buy...

Still if you look at iPhones they do do a kids one, the SE

https://www.apple.com/shop/buy...

Oh wait, that's still $349 for the 32GB version

It used to be $399 for the 16GB version but people like CNet complained

https://www.cnet.com/news/ipho...

Now, to be clear, I can think of at least two types of people for whom a 16GB iPhone is a reasonable choice. There are the utilitarian non-shutterbugs: They're getting a smartphone because their flip phone finally bit the dust, and they like the convenience of browsing the Web, reading email and using a few key apps -- Facebook, Google Maps, Candy Crush, Pandora and the like. But they don't care about Instagram, and they don't expect to carry around a few zillion MP3 files.

The second group is anyone with limited or bad credit. If your carrier won't allow you to pay off the phone in 24 monthly installments of $17 to $21, then the 25 percent increase in price from the 16GB to the 64GB model could well be a bridge too far. It's 16GB -- or hello, Android. (And, if you're on such a tight budget, the $12 to $30 a year for a good iCloud backup plan may be out of reach as well.)

Actually kids would have been OK with 16GB. However Apple decided to offer only 32GB, admittedly at a lower price than 16GB used to be or 128GB.

Apple do have a reputation for selling overpriced stuff.

E.g. the replacement for to buy machine with the same Ram (16GB) and half the SSD size(512GB instead of 1024GB) of my 2012 Macbook Pro would cost $1,899.00. Even though the original machine was around $1100 and buying 16GB of Ram and a 1TB SSD from Crucial only cost about $400. So rather than paying $1100 up front to Apple and $400 to a third party when the machine gets a bit slow I need to pay $1900 up front and can't upgrade. That's a hefty price increase. And you can't upgrade the Ram because it's soldered and even the SSD which is socketed is proprietary and only available from Apple. Great.

https://www.apple.com/shop/buy...

Still if you look at iPhones they do do a kids one, the SE

https://www.apple.com/shop/buy...

Oh wait, that's still $349 for the 32GB version

It used to be $399 for the 16GB version but people like CNet complained

https://www.cnet.com/news/ipho...

Now, to be clear, I can think of at least two types of people for whom a 16GB iPhone is a reasonable choice. There are the utilitarian non-shutterbugs: They're getting a smartphone because their flip phone finally bit the dust, and they like the convenience of browsing the Web, reading email and using a few key apps -- Facebook, Google Maps, Candy Crush, Pandora and the like. But they don't care about Instagram, and they don't expect to carry around a few zillion MP3 files.

The second group is anyone with limited or bad credit. If your carrier won't allow you to pay off the phone in 24 monthly installments of $17 to $21, then the 25 percent increase in price from the 16GB to the 64GB model could well be a bridge too far. It's 16GB -- or hello, Android. (And, if you're on such a tight budget, the $12 to $30 a year for a good iCloud backup plan may be out of reach as well.)

Actually kids would have been OK with 16GB. However Apple decided to offer only 32GB, admittedly at a lower price than 16GB used to be or 128GB.

ARM (and AMD) may be susceptible to the lesser of the two [evil] exploits... but the impact for that second one is considerably less than Meltdown (which is specific to Intel only).

That's incorrect. Per Apple's statement, all of Apple's ARM designs except the watch are vulnerable to meltdown. Also, the Cortex-A75 is vulnerable to meltdown. I agree that the initial PR spin from Intel was pretty ridiculous, but the good news is it looks like some engineers at Intel released a actual technical response. Reading through the whitepaper, it looks like Intel has figured out how to patch both meltdown and spectre on existing chips using a combination of microcode updates and OS updates.

None of the existing Thunderbolt devices with of the MiniDisplay port type work with the new MacBook Pro. Thunderbolt 2 will work with USB-C ports with a handy dandy $50 dongle. I know it would be a huge inconvenience for Apple to include some standard ports like a display port , HDMI port, and USB port. When I go shopping at Best Buy or even the Apple Store I just can't seem to find the USB-C/Thunderbolt 3 peripherals. Even the iPhone X is USB and not USB-C.

Yes, you can't even plug the new iPhone into the new MacBookPro without an adapter.

So there is your answer Mr. Smartypants. Yes, the MacBook Pro has Thunderbolt 3, but none of the Thunderbolt 2 or Display Port devices work without dongles.

Following up...

Apple updated the page describing last month's security patches to explicitly state the same kernel fixes were put in place for High Sierra, Sierra, and El Capitan.

Wireless is horrible even at much lower speeds. The people living around me have so many wireless access points that hickups and other connection problems due to interference and such are unavoidable. For simple web browsing that isn't a problem but if you want to move large chunks of data to or from uour data server it's unacceptable.
So indeed, only idiots trust wireless.

The iMac Pro has built-in 10gigE, via an RJ-45 Jack:

https://www.apple.com/imac-pro...

Please READ before proving yourself an idiot.

Apple have now commented on the issue.

https://support.apple.com/en-u...

A minor follow up: the Apple statement where they admit all iOS devices are affected.

(And Macs, but we knew that already)

I'm very much aware of shared libraries. But I was under the impression that compilers could not perform link-time or whole-program optimization across a .so or .dll boundary. I was also under the impression that application submission policies on iOS, Windows Store (UWP), and game consoles required applications to be "self-contained", not linking to any .so or .dll files that do not ship with the operating system. (For example, see Apple's App Store Review Guidelines 2.5.2 beginning "Apps should be self-contained in their bundles".) The easiest way I know to ensure whole-program optimization and self-containment of executable code is to link the application statically, except for libraries that ship with the operating system.

With JavaScript outside Greasemonkey, it's also a good practice to combine multiple scripts into one file to reduce HTTP request round trips and the likelihood of dependency race conditions.

SIP is there for your protection and the protection of OSX.

If you really want to get rid of the app, here is how to enable/disable SIP.

Apple is trying to clean things up under the covers. They have a new modern filesystem (APFS) added SIP back in El Cap which was a solid security move. I realize things have been a bit shaky lately, but I blame on moving 12,000 people into the new spaceship campus . I am surprised all the developers haven't quit.

As the space ship establishes a new workplace morphology, things will get better. Maybe the ex-NSA'ers will head to Apple and bolster security even more.

SIP is there for your protection and the protection of OSX.

If you really want to get rid of the app, here is how to enable/disable SIP.

Apple is trying to clean things up under the covers. They have a new modern filesystem (APFS) added SIP back in El Cap which was a solid security move. I realize things have been a bit shaky lately, but I blame on moving 12,000 people into the new spaceship campus . I am surprised all the developers haven't quit.

As the space ship establishes a new workplace morphology, things will get better. Maybe the ex-NSA'ers will head to Apple and bolster security even more.

iOS has a bad battery warning system as well, and has had it since iOS 10.2.1. Since there are a few stubborn Slashdotters here who fail to believe this, here is a link to the Apple tech support article for it:

https://support.apple.com/en-u...

What's been missing from this warning is a mention that you will get reduced CPU performance in this state in order to prevent the phone from randomly shutting off when the battery gets below a 40% charge. In my case, the throttling didn't seem to work and my phone (an iPhone 6) randomly shut itself off anyway until I got the battery replaced.

Unfortunately, I got by battery replaced back when they still cost $79. I think that someone at Apple owes me a refund.

I haven't seen such denial in a company killing something off since Apple's G4 Cube:

The company said there is a small chance it will reintroduce an upgraded model of the unique computer in the future, but that there are no plans to do so at this time.

It's been 6,028 days. It's dead.

"The representative declined to say if Microsoft would ever bring Kinect back."

Microsoft no longer manufacture the Kinect hardware, their current Xbox One S and Xbox One X consoles don't support the Kinect without an adapter, and they just stopped selling that adapter. It's dead.

My old S5 and my current V20 both have user replaceable batteries.

The $29 offer is for the phones they've been throttling, and only to the end of the year

https://www.apple.com/batterie...

Your battery is designed to retain up to 80% of its original capacity at 500 complete charge cycles. The one-year warranty includes service coverage for a defective battery. If it is out of warranty, Apple offers a battery service for $79, plus $6.95 shipping, subject to local tax.

And you have to either send it in or make an appointment and bring it in

https://support.apple.com/ipho...

Plus they don't promote that service. And they didn't tell the people whose phones they throttled that it would fix it to try to nudge the non technical ones into replacing the phone, which Apple users do more frequently than Android ones.

https://www.fool.com/investing...

But those days are largely over, according to new information from Citigroup. Americans now take an average of 29 months to upgrade their cell phone, up from 28 months at the end of last year, and an increase of 24 to 26 months that was typical just a couple of years ago, as noted in a recent Wall Street Journal article. And just four years ago, the upgrade cycle was just 22 months. ...
Originally, Munster thought the program would reduce the average iPhone user's upgrade time frame from 22 months to only 15 months. But that 15 month time frame would mean iPhone users would be upgrading their phones 14 months earlier than the average American, based on Citigroup's new data. And with Apple's iPhone sales currently slowing, that quick upgrade time seems even more unlikely.

I.e. the average for all cell phone users in the US is 29 months, for iPhone users it is 22. And Apple are trying to push that down.

Meanwhile on an S5 or V20 you can pop out to the store, buy a battery and change it yourself with zero downtime.

Wake up sheeple, Farmer Tim Cook is fattening you up for SLAUGHTER!

My old S5 and my current V20 both have user replaceable batteries.

The $29 offer is for the phones they've been throttling, and only to the end of the year

https://www.apple.com/batterie...

Your battery is designed to retain up to 80% of its original capacity at 500 complete charge cycles. The one-year warranty includes service coverage for a defective battery. If it is out of warranty, Apple offers a battery service for $79, plus $6.95 shipping, subject to local tax.

And you have to either send it in or make an appointment and bring it in

https://support.apple.com/ipho...

Plus they don't promote that service. And they didn't tell the people whose phones they throttled that it would fix it to try to nudge the non technical ones into replacing the phone, which Apple users do more frequently than Android ones.

https://www.fool.com/investing...

But those days are largely over, according to new information from Citigroup. Americans now take an average of 29 months to upgrade their cell phone, up from 28 months at the end of last year, and an increase of 24 to 26 months that was typical just a couple of years ago, as noted in a recent Wall Street Journal article. And just four years ago, the upgrade cycle was just 22 months. ...
Originally, Munster thought the program would reduce the average iPhone user's upgrade time frame from 22 months to only 15 months. But that 15 month time frame would mean iPhone users would be upgrading their phones 14 months earlier than the average American, based on Citigroup's new data. And with Apple's iPhone sales currently slowing, that quick upgrade time seems even more unlikely.

I.e. the average for all cell phone users in the US is 29 months, for iPhone users it is 22. And Apple are trying to push that down.

Meanwhile on an S5 or V20 you can pop out to the store, buy a battery and change it yourself with zero downtime.

Wake up sheeple, Farmer Tim Cook is fattening you up for SLAUGHTER!

Why do investigators need to to go to great lengths to "prove" Apple's wrongdoing.
We should be able to look it up in the source code history.

Apple uses the BSD kernel and LOTS of other open source code, so they pretend to share: http://opensource.apple.com/ [apple.com]
But, really, that is just a joke. A browser of a bunch of fragmented stuff that nobody actually uses on any actual machine that I am aware of.

FreeBSD and Linux are super secure and dependable, in large part BECAUSE they are open source.

Google's Android is also mostly open-source.
Apple needs to do the same.

Apple have just admitted that lithium ion batteries are 'consumables'.

https://support.apple.com/en-u...

All rechargeable batteries are consumables and have a limited lifespan-eventually their capacity and performance decline so that they need to be serviced or recycled.

Since the battery is non user replaceable that means the iPhones are consumable too. I.e. they count as food and hence spending too much on them is 'gluttony'.

QED

Actually I did some reading and it turns out that 'gluttony' has traditionally meant not just excessive eating but rather to immoderation in all forms of consumption. For example

https://www.catholicgentleman....

Thus far, most of the seven deadly sins I have spoken of have seemed to be the more obviously deadly ones - but this sin, gluttony, is not one that is given much notice these days. And yet it is, along with lust, one of the most pervasive of sins in Western culture.

Gluttony is never being quite content with what we have, always wanting more (not in the sense of greed, on which I shall speak later), filling not only our stomachs but our entire lives with excess and still wanting more. It bloats and distracts the soul, causing us to form idols out of things we think we "need", and helps us avoid reality by filling our lives with distractions (think shopping or eating as a "cure" for sadness). What we actually need has been replaced by want we think we need, what we think we want. But our hearts can only be restless until they rest in God. (cf. Confessions of St. Augustine)

Nevertheless, we see a kind of insatiable hunger to fill the void that only God can fill with anything and everything else. Even the way we eat in the West is often bordering on the ridiculous - we cram our bellies with as much food as we can, in as short a time as we can, and yet give our bodies no time to even digest what they have been given. We pile our closets full of clothes we never wear, and all manner of other things of this kind. "To want simply what is enough nowadays suggests to people primitiveness and squalor."1 (Seneca)

The cure for the sin of gluttony is moderation - we eat to live, not live to eat, and this maxim can be extended to all other material things in life. "Food is to be taken in so far as it supports our life, but not to the extent of enslaving us to the impulses of desire."2 (St. John Cassian) A good example is in drinking - I enjoy a good ale just as much as anyone else, but there is an obvious difference between enjoying a drink, and getting drunk.

I'm sure if St Augustine were alive today he'd have bought the cheapest cell phone that met his needs, if he had one at all. If he did I'm sure he'd insist on a user replaceable battery so he could keep it running for as many years as possible. Frankly I think he'd agree with me that the LG V20 is a better buy than an iPhone. If I told him that iPhone users were prone to sodomy, pride, lust, gluttony and saying 'Happy Holidays' instead of 'Merry Christmas' he'd agree that they need to to be sent somewhere they can be cured of those bad habits by enforced moderation in order to preserve their immortal souls.

Unless you've been smoking near your iPhone. Or farted. Or looked at it wrong. Apple is extremely happy to disclaim any responsibility for repairs. And the reason why the procedure is difficult and labor-intensive = expensive? Because Apple deliberately made it so. Other companies somehow can keep battery replacement easy.

Prove it.

Unless you've been smoking near your iPhone. Or farted. Or looked at it wrong. Apple is extremely happy to disclaim any responsibility for repairs. And the reason why the procedure is difficult and labor-intensive = expensive? Because Apple deliberately made it so. Other companies somehow can keep battery replacement easy.

TLDR: apologies, update with battery state coming, next year, battery change is $29 (instead of $79) https://www.apple.com/iphone-battery-and-performance/

I'm currently in the sub-$100 market when it comes to smart phones, but I would gladly pay many times that amount to have a phone free from Android/Google.

Good news! It's Android/Google free, many times your sub-$100, works out of the box, and is compatible with Telegram.

In seriousness, Apple (and until Win 10, Microsoft) used to at least have an upfront business plan. Here's something, pay me. No need for them to spy, they glot cash up front. Sadly, MS added ads and turned their Os into spyware. Apple seems to be holding firm on the whole "we'll just sell you privacy."

But I totally empathize with everything you said. I don't want to fuck around with rooting and installing CyanogenMod just to have to install gapps because they're needed to run things.

Here's an idea which actually helps customers:
Offer a battery replacement at approved locations with the customer only paying for the price of a new battery. I would take my phone there, have the battery replaced, pay for the new battery and off I go.
Customers are happy.

Note: I don't own anything Apple-related and I probably never will.

Apple already offered a bunch of 6 and 6s owners FREE battery replacements, so there.

And even regularly, Apple only charges $79 to replace an iPhone battery out-of-warranty, INCLUDING the battery ($99 for an iPad, other product-lines vary) !!!

https://www.apple.com/batterie...

You mean more like a service than a repair?

I'm sorry, but you are just making excuses...and incorrect ones at that.

The iPhone battery capacity is around 1900mAh (src) at 1.2V.

At 10W the battery will discharge entirely in 10 minutes.

I can't imagine any system designer ever allowing a mobile device to run to peak power consumption that would do this, especially since there is no guarantee that the system will come out of its peak state. Sure, you can do it, but it's a stupid design choice.

So what power does the iPhone run at?

Doing a little bit of research, iPhone (and most other computer phones) uses around 1 to 1.5W (src).

I'm sick of reading Apple themed threads on Slashdot because of the sheer number of mindless apologists that just ruin the discussion with their allegiance/belief in the mighty Apple corporation. It's crazy! Can't we all just stick to the facts? The fact being, in this case, Apple is a slimy corporation that has implemented policies that go against the interests of their customers, and employ an elite PR department who are working hard (but very effectively) to put some spin on it.