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I knew I'd read this Slashdot story before!

http://web.archive.org/web/19971221012817/http://s lashdot.org/

I do remember this one from 1999, and have been keeping a distant (envious) watch on the technology. Original website was at Engineering System Co, a company that seems eternally poised to make the next big thing. A different spin on the helicopter specs can be seen at this wayback page from 2000... the four separate engines sound good.

So now it's over two years late, costs just as much (only now we're in a recession), and I still want one! A landing pad would look great on our back lawn.

Read it on the Internet Archive here:
http://web.archive.org/web/20011123043914/http://w ww.securityoffice.net/mssecrets/hotmail.html

Or try the trusty internet archive: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://fanwing.com

but I found a picture here [web.archive.org].

Latest mirror from the Internet Archive.

If Lindows spent the time to work on creating a quality distro they might have become a viable contender, but instead they chose to try and turnout half-ass software in order to show some sales made off of momentum from their PR machine.

Too bad most of their PR that has anything to do with tech is just complete BS. The best is the version numbering, Version 3.0 in less than a year of development?

Lindows.com PR last year.

Download and install Mozilla.

Yes, Mozilla has had its share of security flaws, but they generally get fixed faster, too.

Well, it looks like the wayback machine isn't of too much help: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.osti.gov/

It would be nice though, if someone could just put the site back online at a different address...

This really saddens me, shouldn't we as a civilization be striving to make as many things as free and accessible to the children of the Earth as possible? Don't people understand that money truly is the root of all evil?

Just found this:
Full show recordings

Really quite amazing.

Wayback Machine results for pubscience

Interesting that so many publishers are sponsors! Big Shrug!!!

Well, maybe, but the jist of the suit is that he's causing harm to their good name and, sarcasm, aside, if he was selling old klunkers through his websight, I'd agree that this is true.

However, the point is moot. Another poster said that he never did advertise cars; a quick look through the wayback machine shows that this is true. In that case, since he stayed away from vehicles, I don't see how they can have a case.

Sited like that are everywhere because many web sites are made by people who care about such things, rather than fawning over browser-specific stuff.

The Jamband/Grassroots scene is one viable alternative. The scene, which has its roots in bands such as the Grateful Dead and the Allman Brothers Band, the jamband/grassroots scene is based on the principles of "tour lots, play well, allow tape trading".

Bands like Phish, Dave Matthews Band and John Mayer (three rather different artists) have become very popular primarily because of tape trading and putting on a good live show which varies night to night.

Some sites of particular interest are Homegrown Music Network and Jambase, the latter of which has a huge database of members interested in and willing to promote the bands it serves. Bands seeking to promote shows in certain cities pay Jambase to allow them access to all the members in certain zip codes, cities and states. These fans get promotional material to spread around their area, thus gaining more interest in the concert.

Another great site is archive.org's etree archive which has full concerts of lots of bands (from big names such as Dave Matthews to the unknowns like the Motet) in lossless SHN format.

Of course, the limitations of this scene is that it's basically all wrinkly old hippies noodling away on covers of Grateful Dead songs, but there are innovators such as the New Deal and Disco Biscuits, who play live, improvised trance/breakbeat house. Or Howie Day, a singer-songwriter playing Radiohead influenced songs using loops and samples to create a unique sound. OAR play (somewhat turgid) reggae-rock, and Illinois' Umphrey's McGee present us with an alternate universe of "What if Phish listened to Pink Floyd and Genesis rather than the Grateful Dead?". There's something for [mostly] everyone.

Famous Civil Defense film for children in which Bert the Turtle shows what to do in case of atomic attack.

DIVX (29.6 MB)
VCD (92.2 MB)
MPEG2 (244.5 MB)

Famous Civil Defense film for children in which Bert the Turtle shows what to do in case of atomic attack.

DIVX (29.6 MB)
VCD (92.2 MB)
MPEG2 (244.5 MB)

Famous Civil Defense film for children in which Bert the Turtle shows what to do in case of atomic attack.

DIVX (29.6 MB)
VCD (92.2 MB)
MPEG2 (244.5 MB)

Famous Civil Defense film for children in which Bert the Turtle shows what to do in case of atomic attack.

DIVX (29.6 MB)
VCD (92.2 MB)
MPEG2 (244.5 MB)

Some of the older faces of altavista
Wayback Machine view of AltaVista
Lot's of good stuff on the old homepages, such as how popular it is and accolades it's received.

Here is the Wayback Machine's archive:

http://web.archive.org/web/19990117031504/http://w ww.microsoft.com/ntserver/highlights/editorletter. asp

Is this proof enough?

Yup. Proof enough for me.

Except the link in dmaxwell's article has typos. This version works.

(The first of 3 times you ignored an obvious joke.)
You seem to have an affection for pedantic adherence to language rules, so I'll let you check your dictionary to see that printed means "created by pressing or stamping onto a surface".

It's not just niggling about definitions- in the context of journalism and editorial integrity, printed words are a different domain than electronically transmitted ones. Once printed, something can never be rescinded or repaired- but websight contents are eternally mutable. (Copyright violators notwithstanding). Printed words have an essential limitation on space, justifying the practice of "editing for brevity". That's much less defensible in the online arena, where the full text letter can be only a hyperlink away.

For example, I corrected each item shown above in boldface.

The fact that both "one-way" and "one-time" are dictionary words doesn't remove the unhypenated forms from valid English. This is akin to Dan Quayle's infamous potato/potatoe spelling-bee incident.

and a bit less on appearing cultured. If I had meant "cultured" seriously, it wouldn't have been in scare quotes. It was a joke. (Finding the 3rd one is up to you. Don't waste your time on it, though)

because the editors regularly edit readers' letters for grammar, spelling, punctuation, and length

The fact that /. never censors is an advertised feature of the site, and is intended to distinguish it from traditional publications. Also, (advertising aside), I could enjoy my city's major newspapers for years without ever seeing a word not written by a paid employee- but 96% of Slashdot articles and 99.9992% of its total textual content are reader-contributions.

The rules are different here, because the demands are different.

Printed media have professional editors to ensure quality. On Slashdot, that job goes to the Moderators. The so-called editors are just there to keep the content flowing along smoothly; judging its quality it someone else's job.

There's a fundamental difference in the time-frame available to a printed periodical and an online one. Slashdot already has a reputation for lagging in articles, they can't afford to delay it further by more editing.

And that time constraint problem goes triple for comments on the stories- the comments aren't a static page, or a relaxed medium like a newspaper where a at least 72 hours can elapse between the publication of a story and the responses it evokes. Instead, it is a weird, quasi-real time conversation that will be broadcast to many more than those involved, and archived for posterity. Its unfortunate, but if even a very insightful comment fails to make it into the first 200, it's likely to be sqandered and fall comparatively unread. In this informal environment, first-hand knowledge, creativity, wit, and speed are more important than those qualities with 4th grade teachers specialize in.

Thus the rise of the "Grammar/Spelling Nazi" epithets. I don't dispute that people should be free to point out obvious minor errors- I just wish the bulk of readers didn't have to be burdened with language trivia, educational as it may be. The comment-submission for should have an option to "self-moderate" your post as "Spelling/Grammer Nitpick", "Off Topic", "Spoiler", and "Bad Pun". (No effect on your karma, but others can choose to filter them out of view)

Whole areas of the "flyover states" are being depopulated. Marginal farming and ranching operations in cold areas far from civilization can't compete, even with near-zero land costs. Kansas actually has more "frontier counties" ( 6 people/square mile) than it did in 1890.

Stop reading this
And start reading a page!
After that come back and you may continue();

...but first read the Proofing FAQ on the site and save yourself some confusion:

Especially read section 5 for some of their typesetting-to-ASCII conventions which would be non-obvious otherwise.

I first heard of the Landshark almost two years ago, Wayback Machine has it, and the site has barely changed since then. I hate to be the bearer of bad(?) news, but I doubt this project will ever reach completion.

who does the final proof reading, and if there is someone doing the final proof reading that kinda eliminates the need for the distributed part.

charlz has a workflow diagram for the works that go through his site. As you see, each book has a project manager, who has final processing/proofing responsibilities.

Also, I'm not sure you get the idea of two rounds of proofing. They don't see different versions of a corrected page -- the first one sees the straight OCR output (or, sometimes the project manager will do some automated corrections on it first) and then the first round proofer edits the text. Then, when all the pages have gone through the first round, the second round proofer reads the text as it was edited by the first round proofer. This helps because it builds off the edits of the first round proofer and allows the second round proofer to perhaps catch things not caught in the first round.

When proofreading, you're never going to capture all the mistakes with one pair of eyes. A distributed proofreading effort is very beneficial to the goals and efforts of Project Gutenberg, and I applaud the efforts of all those who have proofed even one page.

Having said that, I've done over 300 (under a different name).

On the archive.org Gutenberg page they list the most popular downloads.

Number 2 is something called "New Hacker's Dictionary, The"

Every time I refresh the page the download count has increased.

A variation on the slashdot effect ?

Gutenberg page at archive.org

Here is a Web Archive link to the MS document that *somewhat* validates the first set of Halloween documents, obtained from the Haloween FAQ.

... but a /.'ing in less than 6mins?

According to the time stamp of this fine +5 funny poem, it took about 4 minutes: The article is from 12:52 (my time zone, I guess :), the poem from 12:56. If you calculate the time, the AC probably needed to check the link, notice, that it's already slashdotted and then type the poem and submit it, it's probably even less than 4 minutes, which is really heavy.

Interestingly the Slashdot effect this time (also?) seems to have hit their DNS server, because I always got and still get a "host not found" error instead of a "host not reachable" or "connection refused" as usual. Maybe the DNS server was running just on the same host. But what then happend to the secondary DNS server?

Thanks to commentators and moderators there were at least two links with similar informations and pictures. BTW: Regarding the caching issues mentioned in some +5 insightful comment, I agree to try to use the Google Cache (if they're fine with that additional traffic, they at least weren't pleased when one of the live tests of LWP connected to them and then filtered those request returning a 403 and therefore causing the live test to fail) or the archive at web.archive.org.

Blockquoth the poster:

Interestingly, 14words.com, which seems to be just a web-hosting company, is in the following category in google directory:
Society > Issues > Race-Ethnic-Religious Relations > Hate > Hate Groups

Now it is merely a redirect to a web hosting company. But it used to be a Wotanist site, 14 Word Press. (If this site doesn't look like much, view source.) It was white supremacist at least. They called for the establishment of an exclusive White nation, to preserve "the beauty of the White Aryan woman." The "14 words" are a recently coined white supremacist slogan.

Blockquoth the poster:

Interestingly, 14words.com, which seems to be just a web-hosting company, is in the following category in google directory:
Society > Issues > Race-Ethnic-Religious Relations > Hate > Hate Groups

Now it is merely a redirect to a web hosting company. But it used to be a Wotanist site, 14 Word Press. (If this site doesn't look like much, view source.) It was white supremacist at least. They called for the establishment of an exclusive White nation, to preserve "the beauty of the White Aryan woman." The "14 words" are a recently coined white supremacist slogan.

I've been yahooing/altavista-ing/metacrawling/googling (in that order, chronologically) since 1997, and lived in Oklahoma City since then, and I've never heard of these people before now.

The pictures at least are on wayback machine Wayback does not have the videos, even from 2000... disk space issue? I think they only have 200T!

As this kind of lawsuit concerns the life of this company on the Matrix, this link may give some info on how this company ran up till now:

Wayback on SearchKing

I used to be big into CS, very much so. I actually wrote one of the first CS Strategy guides (since modified), worked briefly for CSN, and was on of the founders of Clans United. Anyways, CS was good. That is, back in the olden days of the first betas it was. For all the complaints of CTs and Tangos looking the same in the first beta, that was actually somewhat fun.

When CS really went bad though is when Goose stopped writing and coporate did. CS, to an old-schooler like me, was a victim of its own success. When too many people got interested in it, the pro-shops started monkeying with the code. Did you ever hear of a cheat in the first few betas? (Any yes, I know that Valve changed the netcode in Half-Life, and that THAT opened up many of the security holes.) So, yes, cheating was a major issue, but that wasn't the root of the problem.

Not to mention back in the early betas everyone was basically at the same skill level. You didn't have people playing for years yet. Instead, everyone was still learning the game.

Personally, I stopped playing CS when it got "polished." I don't exactly have the fastest machine, and run on a shared modem, so the new netcode, models, and all the other tweaks made to CS over the years made it unplayable for me. Even if that wasn't the case, all that made it just plain not fun, to me.

So, I may be the one of the few who thinks that CS isn't all that its cracked up to be, but I do.

I got the last image from your compressed copies. I was going to put up page 2, but you saved it with Mozilla, which rewrites the HTML so it works with the directories it makes. I was feeling too lazy to go to the trouble of rewriting it back the way it should be. In the future, I'd recommend wget -r [URL] But be careful! The Internet is very large. Just ask these guys!

Nevertheless, I'll forego my schoolwork and see what I can do ;-).

Judging by your site it doesn't seem to be a big loss.

I highly doubt he started adding auto links to capitalize on his well known "Nissan Foreign Car Mobile Repair Service".

Firstly, he doesn't even bother to make the link to Nissan an actual hyperlink, instead simply giving the text. Secondly, the unlinked link wasn't added until after he was sued: Take a look at the wayback machine: http://web.archive.org/web/*/nissan.com for, say, late 1999. At this point he has burrowed his computer hardware deep in the site, and instead turned it into a banner page: 100% the purpose was to capitalize upon millions of people looking for Nissan automobiles (clearly the page and domain had zero value to his business, and any expert would attest to this).

Look at Alexa's "sites people also followed" the big links for nissan.com are Nissan USA, Toyota, Mazda, American Honda, Subaru : Yeah, that's people looking for a Raleigh NC computer store.

I have mixed feelings about this case, honestly. On the one hand the guy's name is Nissan, so he certainly has a claim, but on the other hand the overwhelming (i.e. 99.99%+ probably, and the other 0.01% are checking for info on the lawsuit) majority of people going to nissan.com are looking for the car company, not his computer store. I almost see it as a "public good" thing that perhaps he should be forced to sell it to Nissan, but at "fair market value" : Not $15,000,000, which is what he requested, but perhaps say $250,000.

Hey, thanks. That's interesting. Too bad the comments are gone. I wonder if it's in the Wayback Machine.

I got a helluva lot of dead links and blank pages.

Definitely so - check the first result. This is nothing new. For the referenced query, the faulty top-ranking has existed for a long time, though the site in question hasn't existed for over a year. I've even written support a number of times (blatant errors such as these are shameful). Google is far from perfect.

i would stuff my penguin in her ass

do a search for amy aimster on aimster, there's a ton of hot pictures of that bitch

Old, pic, she's young, but has hooters

wtf!

Getting hotter!

i would stuff my penguin in her ass

do a search for amy aimster on aimster, there's a ton of hot pictures of that bitch

Old, pic, she's young, but has hooters

wtf!

Getting hotter!

i would stuff my penguin in her ass

do a search for amy aimster on aimster, there's a ton of hot pictures of that bitch

Old, pic, she's young, but has hooters

wtf!

Getting hotter!

His message board. Last I checked, the board was moderated and all messages had to be pre-approved by a moderator, but it looks like one fellow has found his way around that. Congrats, Mr. Lignatron.

Don't forget to check out his message board's terms of use. Oddly enough, you're not allowed to mention the fact that the owner of the company sues his customers (and everyone else, for that matter). Any mention of the lawsuit that makes it onto his board is deleted very quickly. That doesn't mean you shouldn't try, though. Even if the message gets stuck in an approval queue and never get posted by a moderator, as seems to be the general case, one of his moderators will still have to take the time to delete it. And I get the feeling that his moderators might not even know about the lawsuit, or else they won't associate with him.

One piece of advice to those attacking his message board: if the goal is to warn his customers about what his company is up to, linking to Petsforum, TheDefenseFund, or this Slashdot story would be MUCH more effective than linking to goatse.cx. Our goal is to bring his behavior into public light, not to gross people out. That's what we have Slashdot for. I know old habits die hard, but this is a chance for us to put our trolling/crapflooding skills to good use, and work for a higher goal.

It's funny how after the lawsuit business started, Bob Novak changed the name of his message board to "The Civilized Pet Forum." Yeah, right.

Then there are the requistite requisite mailto links. What good would this post be without the requisite mailto links? Keep these requisite mailto links in mind for future use. These requisite mailto links make the world go round!

Archived mirror of PetsWarehouse page.

Archived company info.

Archived map to store

Domain registration info

GNU Wget - a website downloading tool. Useful for accessing sites that are Slashdotted, by hitting the site over, and over, and over, and over, and over...

Netcraft Info for Petswarehouse

His message board. Last I checked, the board was moderated and all messages had to be pre-approved by a moderator, but it looks like one fellow has found his way around that. Congrats, Mr. Lignatron.

Don't forget to check out his message board's terms of use. Oddly enough, you're not allowed to mention the fact that the owner of the company sues his customers (and everyone else, for that matter). Any mention of the lawsuit that makes it onto his board is deleted very quickly. That doesn't mean you shouldn't try, though. Even if the message gets stuck in an approval queue and never get posted by a moderator, as seems to be the general case, one of his moderators will still have to take the time to delete it. And I get the feeling that his moderators might not even know about the lawsuit, or else they won't associate with him.

One piece of advice to those attacking his message board: if the goal is to warn his customers about what his company is up to, linking to Petsforum, TheDefenseFund, or this Slashdot story would be MUCH more effective than linking to goatse.cx. Our goal is to bring his behavior into public light, not to gross people out. That's what we have Slashdot for. I know old habits die hard, but this is a chance for us to put our trolling/crapflooding skills to good use, and work for a higher goal.

It's funny how after the lawsuit business started, Bob Novak changed the name of his message board to "The Civilized Pet Forum." Yeah, right.

Then there are the requistite requisite mailto links. What good would this post be without the requisite mailto links? Keep these requisite mailto links in mind for future use. These requisite mailto links make the world go round!

Archived mirror of PetsWarehouse page.

Archived company info.

Archived map to store

Domain registration info

GNU Wget - a website downloading tool. Useful for accessing sites that are Slashdotted, by hitting the site over, and over, and over, and over, and over...

Netcraft Info for Petswarehouse

His message board. Last I checked, the board was moderated and all messages had to be pre-approved by a moderator, but it looks like one fellow has found his way around that. Congrats, Mr. Lignatron.

Don't forget to check out his message board's terms of use. Oddly enough, you're not allowed to mention the fact that the owner of the company sues his customers (and everyone else, for that matter). Any mention of the lawsuit that makes it onto his board is deleted very quickly. That doesn't mean you shouldn't try, though. Even if the message gets stuck in an approval queue and never get posted by a moderator, as seems to be the general case, one of his moderators will still have to take the time to delete it. And I get the feeling that his moderators might not even know about the lawsuit, or else they won't associate with him.

One piece of advice to those attacking his message board: if the goal is to warn his customers about what his company is up to, linking to Petsforum, TheDefenseFund, or this Slashdot story would be MUCH more effective than linking to goatse.cx. Our goal is to bring his behavior into public light, not to gross people out. That's what we have Slashdot for. I know old habits die hard, but this is a chance for us to put our trolling/crapflooding skills to good use, and work for a higher goal.

It's funny how after the lawsuit business started, Bob Novak changed the name of his message board to "The Civilized Pet Forum." Yeah, right.

Then there are the requistite requisite mailto links. What good would this post be without the requisite mailto links? Keep these requisite mailto links in mind for future use. These requisite mailto links make the world go round!

Archived mirror of PetsWarehouse page.

Archived company info.

Archived map to store

Domain registration info

GNU Wget - a website downloading tool. Useful for accessing sites that are Slashdotted, by hitting the site over, and over, and over, and over, and over...

Netcraft Info for Petswarehouse

Both sites are hopelessly slashdotted. (We only slashdot the ones we love...) Here is an old page listing reasons why we should use this product. Reasons and another one, even older, that shows a picture. Picture

Both sites are hopelessly slashdotted. (We only slashdot the ones we love...) Here is an old page listing reasons why we should use this product. Reasons and another one, even older, that shows a picture. Picture

The Games Domain (www.gamesdomain.co.uk) was founded in April 1994 (see the access stats here) and is still going, albeit after a few changes in ownership (currently owned by our patent-happy friends at BT I believe)

Some interesting bits here:

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.slashdot.o rg

wayback has a really old slashdot archived here. hey, guess what, on Dec 20 '97 (my birthday!) we were saying netscape sucks and IE is a little better. wow, not much changes in 5 years after all ;)