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""...how these people use "employees and children" in one sentence. It's as if they think the two are nearly synonymous.""

http://www.bushin30seconds.org/150/view.html?ad_id =1911

A bit off topic, admittedly, but that's the first thing I thought of almost immediately when I read that.

But most Americans don't have a clue what is going on. I saw a billboard last night that said, "Remember, it's your money" -- and it was an ad for Bush-Cheney! The administration that insisted tax cuts were the prescription for times of plenty, for times of recession, for times of peace and times of war, has now seen the unwanted side-effects: a languid recovery, and a trillion dollars added to the debt. A budget surplus, the first in modern times, converted instantly to massive deficit.

Sometimes I wonder if there isn't a way to start talking about the debt as the balance on our nation's credit card. Maybe if we put overspending into terms that the average consumer could understand, and stuck to those terms, people could finally start to get it. This country produces $11 trillion of wealth every year, and, through our government, we are $7.4 trillion in debt. Maybe if we start comparing the government to a family that's making $110,000 a year, but is $74,000 in debt, we could have a real national debate about government spending. The question is not whether "it's your money," but whether, being $74,000 in debt, it's a good idea for you to get a brand-new credit card and go rack up another $4,000 on it every year -- as Bush and the Republican Congress are now doing.

Especially when massive, unavoidable costs are just over the horizon.

Grover Norquist has declared his goal of drowning the government in a bathtub, and his way of doing it is to spend it into oblivion. The Republican Party has sold out the country by signing on with this brand of destruction. What it's going to yield is not prosperity and limited government, but anarchy and -- very possibly, in the decades to come -- the end of America as an economically powerful beacon of freedom. When our children are serfs for the wealthy who have bought up the country, when the old are baking to death because we can't afford to buy them air conditioners, when the poor and the sick die alone because we can't provide them with basic health care, when the unregulated food makes us sick and the unregulated drugs are a crapshoot, when half the country will never be able to retire and will be forced to work at McDonald's and Wal-Mart until their bodies fail, I hope people remember the name of Grover Norquist, and who it was that put his theories into practice. One percent of this country will always enjoy all the best things in life, but everyone else will be wondering what it was like before our government was drowned, and if those folks back in the '90s and '00s knew how good they had it.

Those ads were not produced by MoveOn.org. MoveOn sponsored a contest, entitled "Bush in 30 Seconds", which invited contestants to submit political ads of their creation. MoveOn.org members would then vote to determine which ads would make it to the judging panel. There were more than 1000 ads submitted for the contest, of which two contained the Hitler-related content mentioned in the Moonie Times article you linked to. When these ads were brought to the attention of the contest organizers, they were promptly removed.

You can criticize MoveOn for having a lax screening process, I suppose, but that's about it.

They're responsible for Bush in 30 Seconds an anti-Bush site.

CNN refers to them as an anti-Bush powerhouse.

And, most tellingly, the MoveOn PAC held an online Democratic primary and declared they would officially endorse a candidate if they received over 50% of the votes. Note that they stated that even if no one candidate received 50% of the vote they would still "work to defeat Bush".

It really doesn't matter what they decide to call themselves if their actions are to work to support Democrats and oppose to Republicans. Even if it were just the latter you could claim they were an "anybody but Bush" site but they're not even that, they didn't even consider endorsing any third party candidates, just Democrats.

Don't forget...gmail currently doesn't require personally identifiable information, such as address, zip code, name of first born, social security number, size of anatomy elements. Spymac requires all info, including demographic information, and if I remember correctly phone number. At least if gmail doesn't ask in the future, that means my ISP still remains the 'bottleneck' for any real identity linking. I could still just use transparent anonymous proxies who don't care who I am to access gmail...which makes that even nicer. All someone in the government would have to do is send one email to spymac.com, and if they cave...it means exactly one thing: The government gets everything in about 75 miliseconds. ;p Of course, this is just a Big Encouragement for encrypted emails that the email service can't really touch, like GnuPG and PGP. It's not a matter of gmail linking 'certain information' with 'other certain information' if it becomes harder than it's worth to track you down for exercising your right to free speech.

The winner of the commercial contest is this clip

There are no Nazis nor Hitler and no words in this clip.

Other clips have been recogniced in other categories.

Don't think you will be able to see anybody equating Bush with Hitler in there either.

One clip in poor test has been sent to the MoveOn.org contest that indeed did compare Bush to Hitler. Moveon.org did clearly state that it did not endorse this clip

The fact that you think that MoveOn.org believed this clip to be the best of their commercials says a lot about America's media.

The winner of the commercial contest is this clip

There are no Nazis nor Hitler and no words in this clip.

Other clips have been recogniced in other categories.

Don't think you will be able to see anybody equating Bush with Hitler in there either.

One clip in poor test has been sent to the MoveOn.org contest that indeed did compare Bush to Hitler. Moveon.org did clearly state that it did not endorse this clip

The fact that you think that MoveOn.org believed this clip to be the best of their commercials says a lot about America's media.

This just goes to show the fundamental problem with the current legal system: regardless of the merit of their position, the rich can use the courts to impose their will on the poor by killing them with legal fees.

Yes. The system is working exactly as designed.

What, you mean you expected justice and freedom for the drone class? Sorry, those privileges are reserved solely for the oligarchs, feel-good rhetoric from their appointed figureheads to the contrary notwithstanding.

Americans are fucking schizophrenic, and it's only getting worse. This Puritanical neoconservatism is really, truly dangerous.

Don't read their websites unless you don't need to sleep tonight. After the FCC ruled that you can use "The F Word" as long as you are not using it to describe copulation, the AFA had a letter writting campaign that has now but a stranglehold on talk radio.

They also lead a letter writting campaign for Jane'ts Boobie. I heard that there were 40 Thousand letters complaining about that sent to CBS. What was a lot less publicized was that they received ten times as many letters complaining about their refusal to show the moveon.org ad.

So maybe there are more people against censorship than for it, but the mainstream liberal media isn't reporting it?

Some of you may have heard that CBS refused to air the winning MoveOn.org's " Bush in 30 Seconds " ad. Just prior to the Superbowl, MoveOn.org asked their subscribers/readers to boycott CBS by switching from CBS during the commercials to CNN, who were airing their 30-second spot.

Presumably, Tivo knows precisely how many people actually went through with it.

people who don't seem to have read anything by George Orwell?

"They" have almost certainly read and understood George Orwell only too well. "They're" simply counting on relatively few of the unwashed masses having read George Orwell, or to have comprehended it if they have.

Given current political events in the United States, and the persistent popularity of its president among said unwashed masses despite his appalling history in office thus far, "they" seem to be quite correct in this assumption.

What difference does it make if you and I snicker at the Orwellian names our space missions are routinely given, or the pithy propoganda that accompanies every "3...2...1...ignition" sequence (the "of [whatever] in another [whatever] for [whatever]" that always gets tagged on to the countdown these days), so long as 9 out of 10 vegitative Americans take it seriously, and more than half of America is vegatative?

To summarize: "TERRORIST TERRORIST TERRORIST, 9/11, 9/11, God Bless America"

people who don't seem to have read anything by George Orwell?

"They" have almost certainly read and understood George Orwell only too well. "They're" simply counting on relatively few of the unwashed masses having read George Orwell, or to have comprehended it if they have.

Given current political events in the United States, and the persistent popularity of its president among said unwashed masses despite his appalling history in office thus far, "they" seem to be quite correct in this assumption.

What difference does it make if you and I snicker at the Orwellian names our space missions are routinely given, or the pithy propoganda that accompanies every "3...2...1...ignition" sequence (the "of [whatever] in another [whatever] for [whatever]" that always gets tagged on to the countdown these days), so long as 9 out of 10 vegitative Americans take it seriously, and more than half of America is vegatative?

To summarize: "TERRORIST TERRORIST TERRORIST, 9/11, 9/11, God Bless America"

Pretty potent/A. non-sex non-beer ad with only one statement in it.

Pretty effective ad no matter what you US Political viewpoint is.

such acts of terrorism

<sarcasm>
Quick, call the Patriot Act Police, some linux using terrorists wrote some code to ping that good God loving American company, The SCO Group! Abusing them with their own IP, the gall of it!! </sarcasm>

GWB's desktop! its here!

George W. Bush.

Sorry, I just couldn't resist. It's the winner of the animated category.

Here's a movie of Dubya's desktop in action!

You mean you haven't seen Bush's desktop?

It's right here.

Not an Etch-A-Sketch, but you're close -- he uses a Mac.

Actually, he seems to be pretty proficient with a computer. :-)

[For the high-bandwidth version go to http://bushin30seconds.org/finalists.shtml]

we already know what George Bush's desktop looks like.

Great. That is somehow not the least bit controversial for CBS, but they refuse to broadcast MoveOn.org Voter Fund's winning Bush in 30 Seconds Ad. While I support the freedom to do what you want with your own music, the double standard at Viacom is sickening. If controversy moves product, show it. If it informs political debate, can it. It makes me sad. Very, very sad.

Jesus, America! Are you sleeping???

Yes.

Get over your hatred for Bush.

Heh, I guess that makes me "unpatriotic."

Now, you do realize there is a 2-hour radio delay between here and mars, correct? Just think of the agony of finding and picking up rocks, then bringing them home with a 2 hour delay.

Boy, if something were to go wrong, we couldn't help the astronaut. Even travelling at the speed of light.

...comes out to be about 90 billion a year

To think the nation can foot a "90 billion a year" bill for a man on mars not only shows dedication to a dream, but that it's a sadly misplaced dream.

We hand out more than that to the airlines, instead of making them change their business practices to make a profit.

The irony is delicious. Do you think Bush is going to do anything to change corporate welfare?

you guys really have to see the website http://www.bushin30seconds.org/ ads campain to increase the awarness of the mass... enjoy!

For an interesting exercise in direct democracy, check out the Bush in 30 Seconds finalists. These have been winnowed down from some 1500 submitted ads.

All created by volunteers. Registered users get to vote on which ads they like the best, and the winners will be run on TV this election season.

Just to be fair and balanced, here's a similar conservative ad. No voting though.

I'm all for science advances but can't help to think he might be trying to drive attention away from some of other problems

Sure it's getting closer to elections. Might want to be a "scientific" president for a minute. I cant wait to get this joker voted out of office. What an embarassment. This quicktime video pretty much says it all.

Looks like it's time to remind everyone of Bush in 30 Seconds...

Predictable, but gets the point through nevertheless

Direct link to the clip, for those of you having trouble viewing it inline in your browser.

Make sure to check out the others too!