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The CBC has a stream of their TV coverage (in real, but what can you do?) availible here

Here is a news article regarding that. It was for the roundup-ready canola.

Our friends up north teach Comic Book Physics!

Professor uses Spider-Man to teach physics

Wow, you got off light. http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/guncontrol/
Oh yeah, this is just to track law abiding citizens. Apparently, its not cost effective to track criminals in Canada.

The Iraqi regime's violations of Security Council resolutions are evident and they continue to this hour. The regime has never accounted for a vast arsenal of deadly biological and chemical weapons. To the contrary, the regime is pursuing an elaborate campaign to conceal its weapons materials and to hide or intimidate key experts and scientists, all in direct defiance of Security Council (Resolution) 1441.

This deception is directed from the highest levels of the Iraqi regime, including Saddam Hussein, his son, the vice president and the very official responsible for cooperating with inspectors. In intercepted conversations, we have heard orders to conceal materials from the U.N. inspectors.

And we have seen, through satellite images, concealment activity at close to 30 sites, including movement of equipment before inspectors arrive.

George W. Bush statement
February 6, 2003

Comparing the United States to Canada (or any other country) is like comparing apples and rocks. You completely left out a lot of things that affect the homicide rate in the United States.

1. Your death rate failed to distinguish accidents, lawful homicides, and unlawful homicides.

2. Drug-related violence and organized crime are resposible for a large portion of the gun-death rate in the U.S. As far as I know, Canada does not have the Crips and the Bloods, among others. I don't know about organized crime in Canada, but I imagine the opportunities are less in Canada.

3. Gun death rates are higher in major cities because cities tend to have higher crime rates than urban areas. (More opportunity, socioeconomic conditions, etc.) The U.S. has far more major cities than Canada.

4. Cultural conflicts. Canada (with the exception of the problems in Quebec) has largely a homogenous culture. In the United States, we have many hyphenated-Americans, and violence between cultural groups. This would account for for some of the increased death rate.

The simple fact is, it isn't just about gun availability, it's largely about culture and crime.

Gun deaths are a symptom, the disease is something else.

The Iraqi regime's violations of Security Council resolutions are evident and they continue to this hour. The regime has never accounted for a vast arsenal of deadly biological and chemical weapons. To the contrary, the regime is pursuing an elaborate campaign to conceal its weapons materials and to hide or intimidate key experts and scientists, all in direct defiance of Security Council (Resolution) 1441.

This deception is directed from the highest levels of the Iraqi regime, including Saddam Hussein, his son, the vice president and the very official responsible for cooperating with inspectors. In intercepted conversations, we have heard orders to conceal materials from the U.N. inspectors.

And we have seen, through satellite images, concealment activity at close to 30 sites, including movement of equipment before inspectors arrive.

George W. Bush statement
February 6, 2003

As usual, the colonies are ahead of the mother country. The CBC has Ogg streamin www.cbc.ca/listen/ogg.html ...if only the Ogg plugin in iTunes could play it.

A quick check reveals that the ABC uses Real and Windows

I've got a relevant prediciton.

OMG! I never saw her pic before in my life! She is a hot as she sounds!

Thank god for the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation and edgy, sexy-voiced female DJs who love electronic noisecore. :)

Not to mention the comedy, much of which is geared towards Canadians, and really isn't comprehended by anyone else.

The Red Green Show - The masters of duct tape
This Hour Has 22 Minutes - Hilarious satire, parodies, sketches, etc. They often talk to the people in question too, which is very funny.
Royal Canadian Air Farce - More satire, sketches, etc. Not as funny as 22 Minutes, but it's still good.

And others you didn't mention:

This is Wonderland - An excellent show dealing with the lower criminal courts. It focuses much more on the people, more so than the crime. It's funny, dramatic, etc. New season starts on the 25th I think.
Da Vinci's Inquest - Character is a Vancouver coroner Dominic Da Vinci, the stories are always quite good, more than often dark, and intrigue me far mor than the likes of CSI, L&O, etc.

Not to mention the comedy, much of which is geared towards Canadians, and really isn't comprehended by anyone else.

The Red Green Show - The masters of duct tape
This Hour Has 22 Minutes - Hilarious satire, parodies, sketches, etc. They often talk to the people in question too, which is very funny.
Royal Canadian Air Farce - More satire, sketches, etc. Not as funny as 22 Minutes, but it's still good.

And others you didn't mention:

This is Wonderland - An excellent show dealing with the lower criminal courts. It focuses much more on the people, more so than the crime. It's funny, dramatic, etc. New season starts on the 25th I think.
Da Vinci's Inquest - Character is a Vancouver coroner Dominic Da Vinci, the stories are always quite good, more than often dark, and intrigue me far mor than the likes of CSI, L&O, etc.

Not to mention the comedy, much of which is geared towards Canadians, and really isn't comprehended by anyone else.

The Red Green Show - The masters of duct tape
This Hour Has 22 Minutes - Hilarious satire, parodies, sketches, etc. They often talk to the people in question too, which is very funny.
Royal Canadian Air Farce - More satire, sketches, etc. Not as funny as 22 Minutes, but it's still good.

And others you didn't mention:

This is Wonderland - An excellent show dealing with the lower criminal courts. It focuses much more on the people, more so than the crime. It's funny, dramatic, etc. New season starts on the 25th I think.
Da Vinci's Inquest - Character is a Vancouver coroner Dominic Da Vinci, the stories are always quite good, more than often dark, and intrigue me far mor than the likes of CSI, L&O, etc.

Not to mention the comedy, much of which is geared towards Canadians, and really isn't comprehended by anyone else.

The Red Green Show - The masters of duct tape
This Hour Has 22 Minutes - Hilarious satire, parodies, sketches, etc. They often talk to the people in question too, which is very funny.
Royal Canadian Air Farce - More satire, sketches, etc. Not as funny as 22 Minutes, but it's still good.

And others you didn't mention:

This is Wonderland - An excellent show dealing with the lower criminal courts. It focuses much more on the people, more so than the crime. It's funny, dramatic, etc. New season starts on the 25th I think.
Da Vinci's Inquest - Character is a Vancouver coroner Dominic Da Vinci, the stories are always quite good, more than often dark, and intrigue me far mor than the likes of CSI, L&O, etc.

Really http://www.cbc.ca/story/news/national/2000/11/14/b c_thomas001114.html says "Heather's mother, Jody, says nobody asked her permission to use her daughter's image in this way, and she wants the newsletter stopped"

So, who's lying? You or Heather's mother?

Also Mr. White doesn't even seem to be liked by fellow stories http://www.cbc.ca/story/election/national/2004/06/ 27/white_mackay040627.html

From The Province. Vancouver, B.C.: Nov 15, 2000. pg. A.6

"They took down the Fence of Hope on Saturday, three weeks after the body of Heather Thomas was discovered.

But the little girl's memory has hardly been laid to rest -- not when there are vote-hungry politicians on the prowl.

Yesterday, Heather's grieving mom lashed out at Canadian Alliance MP Randy White for using a newspaper picture of her slain daughter in a political pamphlet.

"You don't use my daughter's death to boost your campaign," Jody Thomas told Global TV.

"It's not right. I don't like it."

Her blunt message to law-and-order hardliner White: "Stop using my daughter.""

Also, the Vancouver Sun on Nov 22,2000 on A.5 ran a story by Katherine Monk. From the story "It's the preferred prop of Alliance leader Stockwell Day. Other candidates to capitalize on kids have included Liberal leader Jean Chretien, NDP leader Alexa McDonough, Alliance incumbent Randy White (who used an unauthorized image of murder victim Heather Thomas) and Liberal candidate Peter Warkentin (who used an unauthorized image of a kid with Paul Martin)."

The National Post run on Nov 15, 2000. pg. A.11 a story about what you are talking about. The full text is below

"VANCOUVER - The Canadian Alliance's justice critic is standing by his use of a photo of a murdered child -- even though the girl's mother has described Randy White's decision as "sick."

Mr. White, an MP for seven years who is running for re-election in Langley-Abbotsford, yesterday blamed the federal Liberals for creating a controversy that has seen him sharply criticized by Heather Thomas's mother.

"I am disappointed with the Liberal Party of Canada for trying to create a non-existent issue during an election campaign and for presenting [the newsletter] as anything other than an MP communicating with constituents on issues that are important to everyone," Mr. White said in a statement yesterday.

The Liberals said they had no idea what Mr. White was talking about. "The criticism did not come from us," Thoren Hudyma, a spokeswoman for the federal Liberal campaign in B.C., said yesterday. Steve Ferguson, the Liberal candidate in Langley- Abbotsford, was not available for comment.

Heather, 10, vanished in early October near her father's townhouse complex. Three weeks later, her body was found floating in a lake east of Vancouver. A 23-year-old man has been charged with abduction and first-degree murder.

Jody Thomas, Heather's mother, told CBC Radio she was appalled by Mr. White's use of her daughter's image. "It even sounds sick to a point," Ms. Thomas said. "You don't use that to get yourself elected. That's not right."

Mr. White did not return calls yesterday, but said in the statement the newsletter, House in the Valley, was not part of his re-election bid, but an ongoing effort to communicate with constituents.

The autumn 2000 issue of House in the Valley features a photo of Heather as part of a Vancouver Sun newspaper article on the girl's disappearance. The image

Really http://www.cbc.ca/story/news/national/2000/11/14/b c_thomas001114.html says "Heather's mother, Jody, says nobody asked her permission to use her daughter's image in this way, and she wants the newsletter stopped"

So, who's lying? You or Heather's mother?

Also Mr. White doesn't even seem to be liked by fellow stories http://www.cbc.ca/story/election/national/2004/06/ 27/white_mackay040627.html

From The Province. Vancouver, B.C.: Nov 15, 2000. pg. A.6

"They took down the Fence of Hope on Saturday, three weeks after the body of Heather Thomas was discovered.

But the little girl's memory has hardly been laid to rest -- not when there are vote-hungry politicians on the prowl.

Yesterday, Heather's grieving mom lashed out at Canadian Alliance MP Randy White for using a newspaper picture of her slain daughter in a political pamphlet.

"You don't use my daughter's death to boost your campaign," Jody Thomas told Global TV.

"It's not right. I don't like it."

Her blunt message to law-and-order hardliner White: "Stop using my daughter.""

Also, the Vancouver Sun on Nov 22,2000 on A.5 ran a story by Katherine Monk. From the story "It's the preferred prop of Alliance leader Stockwell Day. Other candidates to capitalize on kids have included Liberal leader Jean Chretien, NDP leader Alexa McDonough, Alliance incumbent Randy White (who used an unauthorized image of murder victim Heather Thomas) and Liberal candidate Peter Warkentin (who used an unauthorized image of a kid with Paul Martin)."

The National Post run on Nov 15, 2000. pg. A.11 a story about what you are talking about. The full text is below

"VANCOUVER - The Canadian Alliance's justice critic is standing by his use of a photo of a murdered child -- even though the girl's mother has described Randy White's decision as "sick."

Mr. White, an MP for seven years who is running for re-election in Langley-Abbotsford, yesterday blamed the federal Liberals for creating a controversy that has seen him sharply criticized by Heather Thomas's mother.

"I am disappointed with the Liberal Party of Canada for trying to create a non-existent issue during an election campaign and for presenting [the newsletter] as anything other than an MP communicating with constituents on issues that are important to everyone," Mr. White said in a statement yesterday.

The Liberals said they had no idea what Mr. White was talking about. "The criticism did not come from us," Thoren Hudyma, a spokeswoman for the federal Liberal campaign in B.C., said yesterday. Steve Ferguson, the Liberal candidate in Langley- Abbotsford, was not available for comment.

Heather, 10, vanished in early October near her father's townhouse complex. Three weeks later, her body was found floating in a lake east of Vancouver. A 23-year-old man has been charged with abduction and first-degree murder.

Jody Thomas, Heather's mother, told CBC Radio she was appalled by Mr. White's use of her daughter's image. "It even sounds sick to a point," Ms. Thomas said. "You don't use that to get yourself elected. That's not right."

Mr. White did not return calls yesterday, but said in the statement the newsletter, House in the Valley, was not part of his re-election bid, but an ongoing effort to communicate with constituents.

The autumn 2000 issue of House in the Valley features a photo of Heather as part of a Vancouver Sun newspaper article on the girl's disappearance. The image

Now, I'm not going to open up the can of worms over carpet and firebombing of cities, I'm not even sure where I stand on the issues but I don't see it as being something that shouldn't be looked at. The fact is that carpet and firebombing did kill many people in these cities. People who didn't support the war or Nazies. And as i said, the CBC did stop airing the show http://www.waramps.ca/news/valour/96-04-03.html press release

For Hakim Faqiryar, the other media didn't cover that issue much. Searching the Canadian Newsstand, a newspaper database of most of the newspapers in Canada. only turned up passing references to him. There is one article about it, but that's after the liberals pushed him out of running. Searching for Hakim Faqiryar and Al-Quaida didn't turn up any results. Now Hakim Faqiryar did make anti-jewish comments and that was reported on by media (The Calgary Herald) but not by the CBC. However, CBC did cover (3 paragraph piece) the lawsuit that Hakim Faqiryar launch against Stockwell Day after Mr. Day made comments on this. I couldn't find out way come of the suit.

Neil Macdonald has been removed from the middle east file in 2003. However, he has made the odd comment on Israel /Palestinian. Neil Macdonald is biased. However, the CBC did try to move him to a place where he wouldn't comment much on Israel /Palestinian. Should the CBC fire him? Perhaps. I'm not a huge fan of Ms. McDonough, but does being rich mean you can't call for greater taxes for rich people? Seems to me they are the best people to call for higher taxes for rich people. http://www.cbc.ca/news/features/mcdonough.html from cbc, saying father was a millionaire. There are other pieces of McDonough. The rreason, I believe, the CBC doesn't attack the NDP that much is because, it's not a powerful party. It only holds 18 seats out of 302. Why spend time on a party with only 18 seats? Plus, the CBC doesn't attack leaders. At least on their website. I couldn't find a story attacking a leader as a person.

It's "The Greatest Canadian" not the best Canadian. And where all the portrayals "entirely complete and balanced" of course not. It was just a show to raise the profile of some of the Canadians in our past. And wasn't wrong with the voting? The "vote as much as you want'? Anyone, could vote as much as they want.

"However, the CBC completely missed the fact that there was a husband and wife running in adjacent Vancouver-area ridings for the Conservatives, and didn't mention it until they had actually won" Really? http://www.cbc.ca/story/election/national/2004/06/ 29/married_mp040629.html I'll give you that the CBC can be a bit too "Ontario is the center of Canada" It's also possible they didn't know about the Grewals. After all, Layton is the leader of a federal party. The Grewals are just backbencher MPs, and before the election weren't even MPs. The CBC is Ontario biased. And maybe more left then right, but it's far from "Very left"

Now, I'm not going to open up the can of worms over carpet and firebombing of cities, I'm not even sure where I stand on the issues but I don't see it as being something that shouldn't be looked at. The fact is that carpet and firebombing did kill many people in these cities. People who didn't support the war or Nazies. And as i said, the CBC did stop airing the show http://www.waramps.ca/news/valour/96-04-03.html press release

For Hakim Faqiryar, the other media didn't cover that issue much. Searching the Canadian Newsstand, a newspaper database of most of the newspapers in Canada. only turned up passing references to him. There is one article about it, but that's after the liberals pushed him out of running. Searching for Hakim Faqiryar and Al-Quaida didn't turn up any results. Now Hakim Faqiryar did make anti-jewish comments and that was reported on by media (The Calgary Herald) but not by the CBC. However, CBC did cover (3 paragraph piece) the lawsuit that Hakim Faqiryar launch against Stockwell Day after Mr. Day made comments on this. I couldn't find out way come of the suit.

Neil Macdonald has been removed from the middle east file in 2003. However, he has made the odd comment on Israel /Palestinian. Neil Macdonald is biased. However, the CBC did try to move him to a place where he wouldn't comment much on Israel /Palestinian. Should the CBC fire him? Perhaps. I'm not a huge fan of Ms. McDonough, but does being rich mean you can't call for greater taxes for rich people? Seems to me they are the best people to call for higher taxes for rich people. http://www.cbc.ca/news/features/mcdonough.html from cbc, saying father was a millionaire. There are other pieces of McDonough. The rreason, I believe, the CBC doesn't attack the NDP that much is because, it's not a powerful party. It only holds 18 seats out of 302. Why spend time on a party with only 18 seats? Plus, the CBC doesn't attack leaders. At least on their website. I couldn't find a story attacking a leader as a person.

It's "The Greatest Canadian" not the best Canadian. And where all the portrayals "entirely complete and balanced" of course not. It was just a show to raise the profile of some of the Canadians in our past. And wasn't wrong with the voting? The "vote as much as you want'? Anyone, could vote as much as they want.

"However, the CBC completely missed the fact that there was a husband and wife running in adjacent Vancouver-area ridings for the Conservatives, and didn't mention it until they had actually won" Really? http://www.cbc.ca/story/election/national/2004/06/ 29/married_mp040629.html I'll give you that the CBC can be a bit too "Ontario is the center of Canada" It's also possible they didn't know about the Grewals. After all, Layton is the leader of a federal party. The Grewals are just backbencher MPs, and before the election weren't even MPs. The CBC is Ontario biased. And maybe more left then right, but it's far from "Very left"

You know they also offer ogg vorbis streams of CBC radio (presumably after many complaints about their proprietary streaming... now if only the BBC could change from that awful RealMedia stuff)

Fifth estate - Great exposes
Passionate Eye - Great documentaries
Nature of things with david suzuki - Great enviromental/science shows (usually critical, great stuff)
ZeD - Open Source Media
Play with Jian Ghomeshi - Insightfull issues for youth. Host puffs cronic on tape Play goest to pot
Hockey night in canada - Hockey!
Correspondants - New field reporting show (it's good)

All and all i find CBC to have some of the best broadcasting on Canadian television and I'm presonally quite happy with it. I would be for adding funding if it opened up content and provided channels free of corperate interest.

Fifth estate - Great exposes
Passionate Eye - Great documentaries
Nature of things with david suzuki - Great enviromental/science shows (usually critical, great stuff)
ZeD - Open Source Media
Play with Jian Ghomeshi - Insightfull issues for youth. Host puffs cronic on tape Play goest to pot
Hockey night in canada - Hockey!
Correspondants - New field reporting show (it's good)

All and all i find CBC to have some of the best broadcasting on Canadian television and I'm presonally quite happy with it. I would be for adding funding if it opened up content and provided channels free of corperate interest.

Fifth estate - Great exposes
Passionate Eye - Great documentaries
Nature of things with david suzuki - Great enviromental/science shows (usually critical, great stuff)
ZeD - Open Source Media
Play with Jian Ghomeshi - Insightfull issues for youth. Host puffs cronic on tape Play goest to pot
Hockey night in canada - Hockey!
Correspondants - New field reporting show (it's good)

All and all i find CBC to have some of the best broadcasting on Canadian television and I'm presonally quite happy with it. I would be for adding funding if it opened up content and provided channels free of corperate interest.

Fifth estate - Great exposes
Passionate Eye - Great documentaries
Nature of things with david suzuki - Great enviromental/science shows (usually critical, great stuff)
ZeD - Open Source Media
Play with Jian Ghomeshi - Insightfull issues for youth. Host puffs cronic on tape Play goest to pot
Hockey night in canada - Hockey!
Correspondants - New field reporting show (it's good)

All and all i find CBC to have some of the best broadcasting on Canadian television and I'm presonally quite happy with it. I would be for adding funding if it opened up content and provided channels free of corperate interest.

Fifth estate - Great exposes
Passionate Eye - Great documentaries
Nature of things with david suzuki - Great enviromental/science shows (usually critical, great stuff)
ZeD - Open Source Media
Play with Jian Ghomeshi - Insightfull issues for youth. Host puffs cronic on tape Play goest to pot
Hockey night in canada - Hockey!
Correspondants - New field reporting show (it's good)

All and all i find CBC to have some of the best broadcasting on Canadian television and I'm presonally quite happy with it. I would be for adding funding if it opened up content and provided channels free of corperate interest.

Fifth estate - Great exposes
Passionate Eye - Great documentaries
Nature of things with david suzuki - Great enviromental/science shows (usually critical, great stuff)
ZeD - Open Source Media
Play with Jian Ghomeshi - Insightfull issues for youth. Host puffs cronic on tape Play goest to pot
Hockey night in canada - Hockey!
Correspondants - New field reporting show (it's good)

All and all i find CBC to have some of the best broadcasting on Canadian television and I'm presonally quite happy with it. I would be for adding funding if it opened up content and provided channels free of corperate interest.

Fifth estate - Great exposes
Passionate Eye - Great documentaries
Nature of things with david suzuki - Great enviromental/science shows (usually critical, great stuff)
ZeD - Open Source Media
Play with Jian Ghomeshi - Insightfull issues for youth. Host puffs cronic on tape Play goest to pot
Hockey night in canada - Hockey!
Correspondants - New field reporting show (it's good)

All and all i find CBC to have some of the best broadcasting on Canadian television and I'm presonally quite happy with it. I would be for adding funding if it opened up content and provided channels free of corperate interest.

Fifth estate - Great exposes
Passionate Eye - Great documentaries
Nature of things with david suzuki - Great enviromental/science shows (usually critical, great stuff)
ZeD - Open Source Media
Play with Jian Ghomeshi - Insightfull issues for youth. Host puffs cronic on tape Play goest to pot
Hockey night in canada - Hockey!
Correspondants - New field reporting show (it's good)

All and all i find CBC to have some of the best broadcasting on Canadian television and I'm presonally quite happy with it. I would be for adding funding if it opened up content and provided channels free of corperate interest.

ZeD is the Canadian Broadcasting COrporation's cross platform (wbe & tv) initiative.. see our what is zed page for more details.

Aside - one thing that isn't trumpeted but I think rocks is that our programming is commercial free. The TV show is aired at 11:25 PM because it often has content of an 'adult' nature. We don't want to compromise our artistic integrity (if something is hard to watch, but considered by us to be a valuable piece then our editors will put it on air..) for advertisers.. it also makes the show much more pleasant.

gah. sorry.. in rushing to get the open source stuff up on a tag I dumped in a bunch of new stuff that didn't quite belong.. and since it was a "trivial change" I subverted the testing process to get it out the door.
This kind of irresponsible releasing doesn't happen often. sorry.

anyway, the 'about the show' page is here.

We still have a flag?? I really have to keep up with the news, last I heard we were taking down the flags:

http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2004/12/24 /williams041224.html

Yes, but does it support OGG?

Oh, I see that it does.
http://www.cbc.ca/quirks/audio.html

What other format is easily accessible and available on multiple platforms? WM(A|V)? QuickTime?

You can listen to CBC Radio in Ogg Vorbis, but most people already have Real installed so it's the easiest thing to use.

Remember that not just 'tech heads' go to the web site.

The CBC recently moved from Real formats to Windows Media formats for streaming audio.

After receiving complaints about the proprietary nature of their formats, they started experimenting with Ogg Vorbis streaming.

Canada is running a budget surplus, and has been for years.

The federal government maybe, but here in Manitoba we keep electing these extremely left leaning NDP idiots who have no idea how to balance their budget.

This works:
$ wget http://example.ca:8000 -O download01.mp3
so schedule this command and "Bob's your Uncle".
--
Tonight on CBC Zed T.V. Revolution O.S.

1. Outsource IT department to India.
2. Department computers siezed by Indian government containing US customer info.
3. Indian government now has full access to the detailed financial, demographic and medical information of US citizens.

B.C Privacy Commissioner David Loukidelis says the USA Patriot Act violates provincial privacy laws, because it can order American companies to hand over information on British Columbians in secret.

Shortly after his report, the povincial government contracted out almost all of it's information services, accounting, payroll, health billing, family services information, drivers licenses, car licences, etc, mostly to american companies or subsidiaries of american companies.

Alcohol poisoning is overrated. Just look at this guy

(a) free, or damned near; (b) available all the time; (c) available in plenty of varieties

It's all of those things now. When I was a kid pot was $15/gram. These days it's $5 if it costs anything at all.

this is a major reason why pot/coke/etc. remain illegal -- those currently reaping the profits only do so because these substances are illegal

I'm not big on conspiracy theories. I think it has everything to do with years of disinformation being shouted at the public. It's just not PC (in the states at least) to show support for decriminalization. Here in Canada the majority of the population supports it so it's not quite so taboo; you can say drug laws are stupid here, and you're not quite so likely to be labelled a crackpot. However there is still a stigma attached to marijuana users, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

That recent purchase of outdated World War 2 submarines from England still makes me laugh.

The Upholder class subs were actually built in the 80's. They were retired a few years later only because Thatcher had decided to build a bunch of nuclear subs as well.

See this CBC story.

http://www.cbc.ca/cp/business/041217/b121706.html/ Rather than reporting on the disaster, Fox News have been harping on about how the world hates America. I wonder if they ever had a "memo of the day" about this story.

Even the WTC terrorists could have been stopped by following their credit card activities.

Do you really beleive that's true? I don't.

This might be an interesting read.

That page is at least three years out of date...

http://cbc.ca/cgi-bin/templates/view.cgi?/news/200 1/07/10/un_ranking010710

Hmm, I thought that in Canada it was always illegal to share/trade copyrighted music over e.g. P2P networks. Isn't the only thing allowed being downloading copyrighted music, and not uploading?

That's known as a truism. It's the warm periods that delineate the ice ages (and vice versa). If you had two ice ages in a row, we'd just call it one long ice age. Similarly for warm periods.

So it was a quiet period followed by ...
Another quiet period.
So there was just one long quiet period
No. There were two quiet periods. Two distinct quiet periods.
Was there a noise between the two quiet periods?
No, I already told you that! Nothing between them!
So how could you tell that there were two qiet periods and not one?
Are you trying to call me a liar.???!!!!

It's like the difference to your electric bill between baking a cake, and leaving the oven on -- door open -- for an entire month.

Especially in the early days of global warming research, there was a lot of controversy over whether it was happening, and whether human activity was a (or the) prime contributor. In the last few years, however, it's become more a question of how fast and how far.

The north pole, which has survived for millenia has thinned by 30% in the last couple of decades -- at that rate it could be gone in my lifetime -- and in the meantime, it's eating a lot of the excess energy that we've been pumping into the ecosystem and capturing with the greenhouse effect.

A similar effect is occurring in antarctica. Ice shelves that have survived 3 or 4 ice-age cycles are breaking off wholesale. Right now, there's a massive 80 mile long iceberg that is threatening to starve one of the major penguin colonies (as well as possibly preventing this year's supplies from being delivered to three antarctic research station)

Consider now, an entirely different analogy:
Let's say you're driving down the road one night, and 5 people try to warn you (over the CB radio) that the bridge ahead seems to be washed out. You're in a rush (late for a hot date), and none of these people has actally seen the washed out bridge. Furthermore, one person is telling you that the road ahead is fine (your rival for the date you're going to meet). Do you keep going pedal-to-the-metal, or do you slow down enough so that you can stop if the bridge is really out?

This means we can procrastinate further on whether to help you guys start the next arms race.

America may not be out of the gate yet but Mr. Bush's arms race is already well underway. Before too long Russia will have missiles inherently capable of penetrating any missile defense shield we can build.

The White House, of course, will probably continue to claim there was no reason to continue those ballistic-arms-buildup treaties we had with the USSR.

WTF, dude? Do you seriously think that GWB has anything to do with the thing failing?

If it weren't for GWB, this system in its current form wouldn't exist. Therefore yes, I don't see how anyone else could be blamed for it failing.

It is not so much that GWB is blamed for this particular test failing. It is definitely that GWB is to blame for the entire current existence of this ineffective system at a time where there are many desperately more important needs for that money, and GWB is the one directly to blame due to the single-minded and careless way in which he has railroaded the program into its current point.

If Dennis Kucinch became president and spent $10 billion on Universal Meditative Anti-Terrorism Field research, we would most definitely blame him when 4 years later there was no sign it works.

Why don't you complain that NASA spent billions of dollars only to have a few rockets explode on the launch pad?

Because NASA occasionally produces worthwhile things. Disasters are a minority, not a rule, and when the hardware works it has a productive effect. When efficacy declines, as it has somewhat in the last few years, the question becomes "how can we improve the safety and reliability of the program?" and not "will the program ever do anything?"

When someone spends several times the lifetime budget of NASA on a program which has no indication of working and whose only discernible effect if it does work seems to have been to inspire Russia to believe it is in an arms race and vastly upgrade its nuclear weapons arsenal, something is wrong. Spending money on research and development is only a goal as good as the research and development it produces. It is not an end unto itself.

This hurts me because in a few decades, when the majority of our manufacturing base has been outsourced, we'll have to depend on outside help for the very basics of our way of life. This is already happening if one considers the flu vaccine.

The Russians, though poor, seem to make better technical decisions. I remember a slashdotter mentioning here sometime ago that Russian helicopters can be fixed with the simplest of everyday materials and still deliver (read reliably fly)! Contrast that with American ones that require hours of maintenance for a few hours of flight. The Sea Kings (of Canada) require 30 hours of maintenance for every hour of flight, and they are unavailable for operations 40 per cent of the time. http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/cdnmilitary/seak ing.html.

Imagine...........!

And it will be modelled after our Gun Registry that was supposed to have cost $1m

SCOTUS says,"not anymore"